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In the words of Ralph P. "you will be pleased"!
ncpit
Don't everyone get their shorts in a bunch here talking about legal actions! Sure a poster can post "legal action" and post it over and over again, which looks extremely like bashing and the paid for kind!
There was a reality post delivered by PennyHoper;
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=33072422
that says much about what people post and complain, grip, insist and re post after re post about. All to do what...nothing but bash and carry not constructive forward motion.
PennyHoper is right on target...you don't go to court or even file a claim with......I am just an unhappy shareholder.
I think many are not really in the know of what's going on with NUBV.ORG. There is so much going on that is not disclosed, much fact gathering, connections made with government officials, contact made with many agencies and sites that will help with whatever the direction this will go! NUBV is screwed if this is a scam and everyone that is connected with it will be screwed, period.
I know Kevin is probably totally wiped out with this ongoing investigation of NUBV and upholding the site of NUBV.ORG. More power to you buddy!
So bottom line is provide some insight, and not excite people here on this board with rantings, re posts, statements that can't produce further help to a cause of discovery and/or vindication, which ever it may be!
ncpti
Am I thinking right that this is the last few minutes to get in on this deal as the 28th is on Tuesday and it takes 3 business days to settle/credit your account????
My initial thoughts are we should be smacking the ask on ACLY to make PGPM shares more valuable??? Don't have time to think about it now as I am late for a meeting.....
Thanks, what a time for a meeting I have to go to....damn!
So the first event is if you have 10 shares of PGPM they will give you 10 shares of ACLY (a dividen in kind)
The second you get 1 share ACLY for 1711 pgpm.??? I am confused...
In order to do their conversion rate and get the 1711/1 is it based on 5.25 or .0001??????????
They didn't set a hard nuber for the ACLY conversion, are they leaving it up to market???
1 million PGPM shares = 585 shares of ACLE
That is just the div part, will also retain your PGPM or the equivalent of PGPM/ACLE. Correct.
Boy what a day with PGPM........I chased that ask all day and could not catch it! LOL
Seriously, Ralph throw us a cookie we need some info! Money is burning a hole in my pockets, what to do, what to do.
Did a little play with WAMUQ today, nice little bounce, made just - a K. But you can't keep up with that board almost every second a post!
Do I feel news PGPM????
ncpti
I am getting a feel for the soon
Soon = 6 weeks
Very Soon = 4 weeks
Very Very Soon = 2 weeks
ncpti
You just got to love the "very soon" thing! lol
I think I am going to use that on my tenants when they call with something that needs fixed...very soon! My current standard line is "I will make a note of that"! LOL
ncpti
Does anyone have a problem with ACLY at $5.25 per share???? When is close on Friday at .16 and should have ....maybe opened at $1.60???????
Tell me if I owned 1000 shares of ACLE on Friday at .16 then on Monday with a 1:10 I would have or expect to have 100 shares at $1.60.
So instead I have...100 shares that opened on Tuesday at $5.25.
Monday should be $160.00 bucks, on Tuesday my trade account should read $525.00 for my split shares....am I missing something or did (I, not me but who owns ACLE/ACLY) just get pumped??????????????
ncpti
Has anyone been able to get in contact or find any information about the major share holder lady????
SOON! LOL
This is what I have on my snap quote
Get Quote(s) Go ACLY Bid: 1.01 Ask: -- Last: 5.25 ($): 2.35 Vol: 100 | Get chain $ ?
disclaimer Real Time Quote Provided by OTCBB @ 3:41:21 PM EDT
Write-in ncpti for prez! My platform is simple, I would sleep with my finger on the RED button! Wife says I twitch in my sleep..... Foreign policy http://new.wavlist.com/movies/180/dh-broken.wav
nuff said!
PGPM, I feel news soon!
ncpti
Information above may be speculative, based on mis-information, contain inaccurate data, be entirely tongue-in-cheek, depending on how much liquor I consume, how litigious and degree of stupidity / gullibility exhibited by the poster/reader I respond to.
LAMO! The visual on that.... and I am still laughing!
Very well. Get some rest there is lots to do. We on the outside.... and have invested here as you have, are concerned and realize that it is just in it's fruits of development. (you can or they can take that anyway you/they wish). Meaning there is backup!
Listen and report as you have, we hear what you don't hear and have insight with the multitudes, and when there is a need there is tremendous support!
Glad you have done what you have....good night!
ncpti
Information above may be speculative, based on mis-information, contain inaccurate data, be entirely tongue-in-cheek, depending on how much liquor I consume, how litigious and degree of stupidity / gullibility exhibited by the poster/reader I respond to.
Hey Gia, you done good. You must be at wits end by now with what going on.
If I missed, wasn't there a 2:OO pm call??? Sorry didn't hear about it>>> if it is posted please blast me!
This is going to be very frustrating, this is also going to be slow at what anything will be done forward motion.
There is no way the company can sit back and blame the NSS for their problem even if it is a problem. They need to do something about that if it is structured that way. There are a few ways to shake that if so as well as cellar boxing so to speak if that the case. But where does the company stand on these issues.
Some more PR or transparency from NUBV is needed to move forward.
Bottom line is BS walks, money talks. Where do we go from here??? You will be the first to know from your meeting that what these people say will go forward. These are business people and did they put out a plan?? They better not rely on us stockholders to make their company! If for any moment that we think they will listen to our....wants, needs, hopes, and or even suggestions...is the moment that there will be something unexpected. Keep caution!
What is there plan, this is what we have to ask, seriously.
Then we go from there, or we go from no answer to hold them to something! This should be forth coming in the next week as I would imagine they are put to the wall and shining in the spot light of exposure.
ncpti
Information above may be speculative, based on mis-information, contain inaccurate data, be entirely tongue-in-cheek, depending on how much liquor I consume, how litigious and degree of stupidity / gullibility exhibited by the poster/reader I respond to.
There really is nothing to do right now but wait. Some of us and maybe most of us have a strategy to trade this when it folds over. You know sell half to get your equity back or sell a quarter or whatever????
As we see things unfold........OK on Pinedo time line>>>....you must re-analyze to capitalize. This may be a long term investment with substance or it may be a fart in the wind.
Keep on top of this everyone....Pinedo may pull an ace or pull a deuce????
ncpti
No shit, and I will Fed-Ex Ralph a gallon so he knows first hand what it looks like....LOL!
Funny how I am in this stock when my Son did oil rig refurbishing with Haliburton then later with KVS. However he went down a new path and is now a correctional officer.
I am in construction but know how they fracture old existing wells, do the refurbishing on equipment, service work, how the engineers analyze productivity....bla, bla, bla...heard it from the kid until I was sick of hearing! Work is 24/7 out here and there is not enough workers to go around.
Yeah send Ralph out and we will do lunch at a rig catering truck! LOL
ncpti
I didn't get my report! >:(
I show on my TDA streamer ACLY at .30 bid .00 ask 7 min before open???
ACLE/ACLY
A very productive day that there was a posting, that there was a 10 to 1 reverse split...or is it 1 for 10 surrendered...??? LOL! However, what anyone wants to call it, it happened Friday and will consummate on Monday.
We now have ACLY. So what of it, what is it, what will it become?????? There is the question of which we have not the information to ascertain.
What does that present to PGPM, nothing at the moment. However, my thoughts are.... the flood gates of information should/would/may be opened by this action.
But, it (ACLY) needs to be something and that's where we fit in...meaning PGPM will fill this vacuum.
There is much ruckus in the oil fields of discovery and technology. We know gas is abundant, oil is yet unproven to the point that it is not disclosed! But yet oil is there!
Do we have an oil company??? Do we have an oil rig refurbish company??? Do we have a lease holder that will hold for high dollars to release??? Did we have our company selling rigs?? Do we have a company selling equipment or lease holding equipment??? Do we have the blind squirrel that fell into the money hole??? Do we have Jed Clampett that hit pay dirt???
Maybe all or none, but I suspect some!
This next week should be very interesting on how things will evolve. Supposedly, this (ACLY posting) is what is what was awaited for in order to flow the information....according to the "quiet period".
All keep in mind, this (the PGPM conversion) doesn't have to happen soon, now, or ever!
Keep eyes on this!
ncpti
Your absolutely right inahaz. shares are bought then sold....so if the company is stating that they have not seen money from these sales via this message
2) Since end of 2006 to present, they've increased O/S from 40M to 25B. Where did all the money from that go?
This was asked. They haven't seen most of the money from the sale of this stock. Which could explain the short selling. Not NUBV, but MM's. Doc said they have seen little to none of it. So this is one of the first things we need to square away. They really need to sit down and figure out the current share structure. Stocktrader68 gave them some excellent suggestions on how to raise additional capital. Ron seemed open about them. Steve liked the suggestions very much.,
Then there is something wrong....and we will find out one way or another, collectively! They didn't come out and say NSS but what else would not put money back to the company??? So what did they say?? The mission is to find out what gives one way or another....facts, period! This is what we will or want to discover, where ever it's at!
ncpti
Information above may be speculative, based on mis-information, contain inaccurate data, be entirely tongue-in-cheek, depending on how much liquor I consume, how litigious and degree of stupidity / gullibility exhibited by the poster/reader I respond to.
Give me a break Capt.
My last sentence.....read!
a major attention should be put forth to prove or disprove....do you agree?,
Lets turn their statements into facts that we can deal with!
You call the TA and report back to this board on your findings!
This is how this will work. Don't just throw this crap out there like you did without knowing what your talking about.
We will expect a report on Monday close of business!
ncpti
Information above may be speculative, based on mis-information, contain inaccurate data, be entirely tongue-in-cheek, depending on how much liquor I consume, how litigious and degree of stupidity / gullibility exhibited by the poster/reader I respond to.
LOL rumor to the extent that #4 on the late night show was good as a PR. Noting that the sister's PR's dives or causes bail out. Similarly, rumor of late night dove pps here the next day! Maybe just a coincidence??? Don't know!
ncpti
LOL. I am outside the bars for now, maybe mon/tue I may obtain a numbered jersey.
The zone show was extremely entertaining and somewhat enlightening. However with regards to HGLC, has started the trend of PR reverse. Similar to sister each PR noted a sell off. The show...even better than PR'ing proved the same in HGLC. So confusing.
No doubt the adage....buy on rumor, sell on news holds true in these cases! LOL But then, wasn't there a rumor we heard???? Still confused!
ncpti
I agree with your statement, I too saw this site "turn" starting with the post from gia that said there will be no water on Oct 1, back in September.
Then without information from the company or a PR explaining anything or something "we" on this site as anyone would get a little or a lot apprehensive about this stock.
No information is the worst thing a true company can do to harm themselves! It will lead investors to speculate in the wrong direction and dig into an environment of negative.
These people were forced to this meeting...they didn't have to attend by any means. So I give them one credit in that respect. If they follow through about a monthly update or blog or even put information up on NUBV.ORG...I will give them another credit! There is still 98 credits left for them to earn for us to be 100% behind them.
The burden is on them to show us how they will outcome this mess. We will help if we can but this is their show to show us!
Also, everyone keep in mind that they have a fiduciary duty to stockholders. This mean they have to work and plan in our best interest. Put it more bluntly, they work for us...period! As of the last two weeks they have seen how stockholders can hit them and one was the daily volume of shares sold/bought! A radical drop off to say the least.
If they know what this means...they will see that they need to be more transparent with us stockholders. We also need to see financials, share structure, value, future business plans, growth forecasts and most importantly product!
Kevin, after reading what gia has posted I believe there is one thing...among others that NUBV.ORG should spend a little (maybe a lot) of focus on and that is why has not the stock purchases have not been transferred to the company?
2) Since end of 2006 to present, they've increased O/S from 40M to 25B. Where did all the money from that go?
This was asked. They haven't seen most of the money from the sale of this stock. Which could explain the short selling. Not NUBV, but MM's. Doc said they have seen little to none of it. So this is one of the first things we need to square away. They really need to sit down and figure out the current share structure. Stocktrader68 gave them some excellent suggestions on how to raise additional capital. Ron seemed open about them. Steve liked the suggestions very much.
This is a killer to any company especially a start up company! I will focus on obtaining information as should others in this respect. If this has been illegally shorted (not sure if that is what they are saying but what other reason would not transfer of money for share not be made unless there is no intent to purchase) a major attention should be put forth to prove or disprove....do you agree?
ncpti
I would personally like to thank the people that attended the meeting. You went the extraordinary mile. Seems there is much to digest and much to disclose.
I would think more so this was a meeting to promote investor alliance more so than anything else and what was viewed was a promotional episode on the part of the NUBV team as related by the initial posts of the occurrence.
I may be wrong at this point, and maybe the attendees have not disclosed everything yet. But so far what we heard as of now we still have no substance of a business or business plan that will pull this out of no BID or an ongoing business venture to say the least! And as a business owner there is always bad that goes with business and we have not heard their hindrances least what was stated!
150K........needed to ...continue???? Makes a question in my mind that where is the management when it comes to ongoing operations..??? Are they floundering on 150K. I don't find that supporting at all. I could equity out one of my houses for that.
Maybe there will be a PR soon as this went so well! And in what manor will management provide us with an attractive investment other than a pretty picture of a bottle of NU20???
In order to have this company to be view as a viable entity they have to spell out a business plan that has a reasonable chance to succeed. It is called transparency. When that doesn't happen you see where they sit!
ncpti
I haven't been able to update anything as of yet. I am at work and posted yesterday evening you would get an update from me around 4:30PM PST. Thanks for your patience!
4:30 PST for the update. They have been now kidnapped for approx 2 hours.......what should we do????
Is there a gap to fill at .0011 one more time? What say you all?
Maybe, and I am thinking like jumping in ,, like stupid! LOL
I am sure we have extreme representation at that meeting. Even so much as the public broadcast that will follow, will magnify the moment!
ncpti
LOL Damn...we should have been at the meeting!
It could go either way......they are so dispelled, spitting, vomiting, foaming at the mouth that they saw through the scam.....or..........they are still giddy with we will be rich...soon and can't sit still long enough to black berry a message! Then again they may be dizzy with the water they drank at the meeting....lol. I hope we hear in the next hours or so!
Or just maybe not use to the Peruvian food served at lunch....lol.
Hummm, I see your point and as was mine waiting soon to know!
As far as the concrete...LOL, but I am a building inspector that would have ordered a certain mix design, and also a contractor as well, which if would have hired a contractor would have already done..."DD"... before he would have even set foot on my sidewalk! Luxuries I would have at that point.
We don't have the knowledge at this PGPM point! Yes, we will keep the days for the information. Knowing the time frame...er PGPM time frame I would agree they will use up what they can!
However, maybe this ACLY deal was ticket to open the flood gates????? We shall see! We also will see what shape ACLY will be in....in a few trading day as well!
ncpti
No we don't have concrete yet, but we do have the start! We do have a company doing what they have stated. Albeit by a timeline in their world!
I also think the R/S was a secondary thought only because they have not said this in the beginning. And maybe scratch that thought as was all along the plan....now not a thought but a reality. Why at this time I don't know. But a reason is to structure their share structure. Who's benefit....don't know...but check out the even playing field theory???? If that's the case PGPM has something!
ncpti