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This analysis from Thunder Capital basically states a Gold's re-valuation should be in the $9,000 per oz. range due to paper money printing abuse... the $9,000 figure was over a year ago... so with US money printing at the current pace of approx. 12% growth per year, add on an additional 12% minimum to the $9306 estimate (just for currency debasement).
http://www.thundercapital.com/gold_at_fahrenheit_451.htm
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Personally, I don't think we'll get near $9,000 during this current cycle... however, I do think somewhere between $1,000 - $2,000 per oz. is easily achievable within the next 12 - 24 months.
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A must see video clip on the Federal Reserve and the current state of the Dollar...
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/blog/2006/12/michael-badnarik-on-federal-reserve.html
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A must read article on Junior Mining Stocks...
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/hommelberg010307.html
Very note-worthy recent milestone...
Gold priced in "Yen" has just made a new 22 year high!!!!...
http://www.jsmineset.com/cwsimages/Miscfiles/4155_Chart_for_2-9-2007.pdf
The Bull Market in Precious Metals right now is largely occuring outside the USA...
but IMO when Gold gets back into the $700's (probably soon)... many more American's will get curious about Precious Metals... and once they study the supply/demand fundamentals, the grwoing Asian/Indian demand stats, Gold reserve depeltion, ETF off-take, etc... they'll realize that higher Precious Metals will be staying for a while... then the undervalued companies will start being bid-up even more agressively.
BTW... I think $700 Gold is alot closer than most realize... and a run to $800+ is increasingly looking likely in the shorter-term...
Gold chart... 1 Year...
Dollar chart...1 Year...
Silver chart...1 Year...
3 years ago... you could truly buy many of the previously operating precious metals mines that went bankrupt or into maintenance mode for a penny or 2 or 3 on the Dollar... now you can still buy some of the mines for around a dime or 2 on the Dollar... I expect that sometime within the next 12 - 24 months, you'll have to pay a minimum of full replacement cost for any potentially viable mine... and more for the mines that make it into profitable production...
Gold chart...
Silver chart...
NYBob: Notice the current market cap. of $156 million on Sangold... (note: Sangold hasn't even started reporting Gold Sales yet... I expect their price to double shortly after Sangold starts reporting Gold sales sometime within approx. the next 90 days)
http://www.tsx.com/HttpController?GetPage=QuotesLookupPage&DetailedView=DetailedPrices&Marke...
Sangold's current market cap. of $156 million compared as a percentage to the $120 million invested into the Sangold mine = 130% ... the same type of comparison on UCOI equals just under approx. 10%
UCOI Replacement Cost Contest - updated:
Guess the replacement cost to completly replace the entire Deer Trail Mine in 2007 dollars... replacement costs based upon replacing EVERYTHING to BRAND NEW, including underground infrastructure, power infra., tailings infra, all machinery, all mill infra, buildings infra, all roads infra, everything... lets hear your estimations;
> UCOI NEW REPLACEMENT COST ESTIMATES;
* GOLDENBOLLOX = $75 - $80 million
* NYBob = $100 million plus.
* silver_bars = +/- $100 million
Based upon a current market cap. of approx. $8.97 million, shares in UCOI can currently be purchased for a fraction of current estimated replacement cost...
> UCOI CURRENT MARKET CAP. AS A PERCENTAGE OF NEW REPLACEMENT COST ESTIMATES;
* GOLDENBOLLOX at $75 - $80 million = 11.5% of new replacement cost.
* NYBob at $100 million plus. = < 8.97% of new replacement cost.
* silver_bars at +/- $100 million = +/- 8.97% of new replacement cost.
> UCOI NEW REPLACEMENT COST ESTIMATES CONSENSUS;
* Avg New Replacement Cost Estimate = $92.5 million
* Avg. Percentage of Market Cap to Replacement Cost Est. = 9.81%
Here's another Canadian Gold mine... this one was recently re-activated just last year... they've got an approx. 1,000 tpd mill on site... on their home page, they state...
"Total capital expenditures to date since 1994 are over $120-million"...
http://www.sangoldcorp.com
I just finished doing due-dilg. last week on an upcoming re-activation of a Canadian Gold mine going back into production later this year (approx. July/Aug 07)...
the company claims $125 million was previously spent developing the entire mine infra. (it has a 800 tpd mill & produced approx. 30K oz/AU per year) prior to the mine closing in approx. 1996...
the company claims $40 million was spent just developing the mill...
but as the price of Gold headed towards $300 in the later 1990's, the mine was closed... but now in 2007 Dollars, that $125 million would be closer (or over) to $200 million.
RE: Replacement cost contest:
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From the research I've done on other mining companies... my guess to build a fully permitted BRAND NEW turn-key operation starting from absolute scratch would take 5 - 7 years at a cost approaching +/- $100 million in 2007 Dollars.
Any other estimates?
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A must see video clip on the Federal Reserve and the current state of the Dollar...
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/blog/2006/12/michael-badnarik-on-federal-reserve.html
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A must read article on Junior Mining Stocks...
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/hommelberg010307.html
Only approx. 10 exploration companies out of over 600 companies will become producers this year...
RE: Replacement cost contest:
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From the research I've done on other mining companies... my guess to build a fully permitted BRAND NEW turn-key operation starting from absolute scratch would take 5 - 7 years at a cost approaching +/- $100 million in 2007 Dollars.
Any other estimates?
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A must see video clip on the Federal Reserve and the current state of the Dollar...
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/blog/2006/12/michael-badnarik-on-federal-reserve.html
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A must read article on Junior Mining Stocks...
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/hommelberg010307.html
Only approx. 10 exploration companies out of over 600 companies will become producers this year...
Sounds like a potentially perfect opportunity for someone to organize a drive for shareholders to start demanding delivery of their share certficates... as there is probably not enough to go around.
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A must see video clip on the Federal Reserve and the current state of the Dollar...
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/blog/2006/12/michael-badnarik-on-federal-reserve.html
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A must read article on Junior Mining Stocks...
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/hommelberg010307.html
Only approx. 10 exploration companies out of over 600 companies will become producers this year...
Replacement cost contest:
I'm looking for opinions on the cost to replace the entire Deer Trail Mine... in 2007 dollars... replacement costs based upon replacing EVERYTHING to BRAND NEW, including underground infrastructure, power infra., tailings infra, all machinery, all mill infra, buildings infra, all roads infra, everything.
Lets hear your estimations.
Things often seem darkest just before things brighten up.
BTW... are you going to grow a set of balls one day?... or are you just going to keep making nameless acqusations like a coward from behind the safety of a computer... bock, bock, bock...
Suuuuuuureeeeeeeeeeee....
You only spend hours of your time here becuase you've already donated all your money to the local SPCA... and have nothing left to give to charity...... uhhhhhhh huhhhhhhhhhh.
I don't work for Unico... so I don't know the day-to-day specifics about how they run their business... the "E" goes on late filings as I'm sure you know.
And like I said:
Hiding behind a computer and anonymously making alot of acqusations, and never providing specifics names to back up thier claims when repeatedly asked (the SEC doc's make no reference to loan shark activity); is either cowardice or manipulative... both of which are flawed character traits... and unreliable by nature.
RE: Now a question for you --
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Obviously they are slow in filing at some times... hence the "E" on symbol on previous occasions.
And like I said:
Hiding behind a computer and anonymously making alot of acqusations, and never providing specifics names to back up thier claims when repeatedly asked (the SEC doc's make no reference to loan shark activity); is either cowardice or manipulative... both of which are flawed character traits... and unreliable by nature.
BTW ronning999... if you don't have the "balls" to start naming names, I'm soon going to have to stop discussing anything with you... as I don't like to waste my time associating with people I deem as cowards or manipulators.
The bigger picture at UCOI...
Other than the day-to-day fluctuations...
Unico Inc. Announces Payment of Additional Bond Amount for Amended Large-Scale Mining Permit (Sept. 19, 2006) ...
http://www.unicomining.com//upload/UCOI_PR_09_19_06_IncreasedBondDOGM_final.pdf
Unico, Inc. Announces New Metallurgist for Mill and Processing Facility (Jan. 25, 2007) ...
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/070125/0207423.html
UCOI Tailings Pond...
Nice size Tailings Pond... the liner looks like it's in good working condition too...
http://www.unicomining.com/news/gallery.php?category_id=29
Revenue calc's from just the Tailings...
From UCOI's web site, it says: "In addition the old tailings contain 186,000 tons averaging 0.04 opt Au, 3.6 opt Ag with some lead...
http://www.unicomining.com/investments/2002report.php#2002_deer
Using recent prices.........
186,000 x .04 oz. p/ton Gold = $650 x 7,440 oz = $4,836,000.00
186,000 x 3.6 oz. p/ton Silver = $13.50 x 669,600 oz = $9,039,600.00
APPROX. TOTAL POTENTIAL REVENUE JUST FROM TAILINGS = $13,875,600.00
UCOI's Tailings pile...
UCOI Mill Refurbishment...
http://www.unicomining.com/news/othermedia.php
Gold...
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A must see video clip on the Federal Reserve and the current state of the Dollar...
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/blog/2006/12/michael-badnarik-on-federal-reserve.html
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A must read article on Junior Mining Stocks...
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/hommelberg010307.html
Only approx. 10 exploration companies out of over 600 companies will become producers this year (2007)...
ronning999... there's no specific names in those posts... and the SEC filings do not make any reference to loan shark activites...
like I said:
Hiding behind a computer and anonymously making alot of acqusations, and never providing specifics names to back up thier claims when repeatedly asked; is either cowardice or manipulative... both of which are flawed character traits... and unreliable by nature.
ronning999 - your credibility shrinks with me daily... you see, I don't repsect people very much who hide behind a computer and make alot of acqusations, and never provide specifics to back up thier claims when repeatedly asked...
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16698870
Hiding behind a computer and anonymously making alot of acqusations, and never providing specifics to back up thier claims when repeatedly asked; is either cowardice or manipulative... both of which are flawed character traits... and unreliable by nature.
UCOI's Tailings pile...
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A must see video clip on the Federal Reserve and the current state of the Dollar...
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/blog/2006/12/michael-badnarik-on-federal-reserve.html
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A must read article on Junior Mining Stocks...
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/hommelberg010307.html
Only approx. 10 exploration companies out of over 600 companies will become producers this year...
RE: Updated: UCOI revenue calc's from just the Deer Trail Tailings reserve
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What the "bash crew" won't tell you is;
* Tailings production is very low cost production... becuase the hard rock mining has already been done.
* Rising Precious Metals prices can provide huge boosts to the profitabilty of a mining company...
Gold chart...
Silver chart...
Updated: UCOI revenue calc's from just the Deer Trail Tailings reserve... (not including the old dump resources).
From UCOI's web site, it says: "In addition the old tailings contain 186,000 tons averaging 0.04 opt Au, 3.6 opt Ag with some lead. The old dumps contain approximately 120,000 tons with values in gold, silver, and lead that can easily be up-graded by screening."...
http://www.unicomining.com/investments/2002report.php#2002_deer
Using approx. current prices.........
186,000 x .04 oz. p/ton Gold = $666.70 x 7,440 oz = $4,960,248.00
186,000 x 3.6 oz. p/ton Silver = $13.83 x 669,600 oz = $9,260,568.00
APPROX. TOTAL POTENTIAL REVENUE JUST FROM TAILINGS = $14,220,816.00
UCOI's Tailings pile...
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A must see video clip on the Federal Reserve and the current state of the Dollar...
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/blog/2006/12/michael-badnarik-on-federal-reserve.html
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A must read article on Junior Mining Stocks...
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/hommelberg010307.html
Only approx. 10 exploration companies out of over 600 companies will become producers this year...
Check out the Gold/US Dollar Inverse relationship, especially since the beginning of Jan. 07 ... use the 50 day-moving-avergae line (the red line) for easy reference...
Check out how the large cap. Gold stocks outperformed Gold Bullion yesterday...
RE: Is anyone here willing to provide me with the names, telephone numbers and business addresses
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As I mentioned earlier... your Lawyer can simply cut to the chase by going directly to ronning999 to see what level of co-operation you'll get... before applying heat...
POSTED BY ronning999;
I would like to suggest that you go to the Unico Raging Bull Board and discuss this matter with Derbenski as he is very knowledgable on the subject.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16508579
POSTED BY ronning999;
I wish you luck on getting your money back, but, don't count on it, the odds are stacked against you in more ways than you can imagine.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16568465
Central Banks are Becoming Gold Buyers Again...
According to recently updated IMF reserves statistics, some central banks have begun purchasing significant quantities of gold over the past few months...
http://www.gata.org/node/4792
Also... the cost of production on Tailngs Piles is generally very low... becuase obviously, a number of costly mining processes are elminated becuase the hard mining has already been done.
Gold chart...
Silver chart...
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A must see video clip on the Federal Reserve and the current state of the Dollar...
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/blog/2006/12/michael-badnarik-on-federal-reserve.html
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A must read article on Junior Mining Stocks...
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/hommelberg010307.html
Only approx. 10 exploration companies out of over 600 companies will become producers this year (2007)...
ronning999... FYI... you've been continuing to loose more and more credibility with me... you make alot of acqusations... but when asked for specific names to back up your claims, you always side-step without providing answers.
On a scale of 1 to 10... your credibility with me is about a 4.
Gold chart...
Silver chart...
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A must see video clip on the Federal Reserve and the current state of the Dollar...
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/blog/2006/12/michael-badnarik-on-federal-reserve.html
==============================================================
A must read article on Junior Mining Stocks...
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/hommelberg010307.html
Only approx. 10 exploration companies out of over 600 companies will become producers this year (2007)...
Even if the grades are good... if the prices of Precious Metals prices were below the cost of production, it wouldn't matter anyways... and we'd all probably be looking at other sectors...
The charts below are the primary reason why the mine/mill are being fired up again...
Gold chart...
Silver chart...
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A must see video clip on the Federal Reserve and the current state of the Dollar...
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/blog/2006/12/michael-badnarik-on-federal-reserve.html
==============================================================
A must read article on Junior Mining Stocks...
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/hommelberg010307.html
Only approx. 10 exploration companies out of over 600 companies will become producers this year (2007)...
The UCOI Tailings Pile and Tailings Pond...
UCOI's Tailings pile...
Nice size Tailings Pond... the liner looks like it's in good working condition too...
http://www.unicomining.com/news/gallery.php?category_id=29
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A must see video clip on the Federal Reserve and the current state of the Dollar...
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/blog/2006/12/michael-badnarik-on-federal-reserve.html
==============================================================
A must read article on Junior Mining Stocks...
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/hommelberg010307.html
Only a handful of exploration companies will become prodcuers this year...
UCOI revenue calc's from just the Deer Trail Tailings reserve... (not including the old dump resources).
From UCOI's web site, it says: "In addition the old tailings contain 186,000 tons averaging 0.04 opt Au, 3.6 opt Ag with some lead. The old dumps contain approximately 120,000 tons with values in gold, silver, and lead that can easily be up-graded by screening."...
http://www.unicomining.com/investments/2002report.php#2002_deer
Using approx. recent prices.........
186,000 x .04 oz. p/ton Gold = $650 x 7,440 oz = $4,836,000.00
186,000 x 3.6 oz. p/ton Silver = $13.50 x 669,600 oz = $9,039,600.00
APPROX. TOTAL POTENTIAL REVENUE JUST FROM TAILINGS = $13,875,600.00
UCOI's Tailings pile...
==============================================================
A must see video clip on the Federal Reserve and the current state of the Dollar...
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/blog/2006/12/michael-badnarik-on-federal-reserve.html
==============================================================
A must read article on Junior Mining Stocks...
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/hommelberg010307.html
Only approx. 10 exploration companies out of over 600 companies will become producers this year...
Something the "distort" crowd would rather you not look very closely at is;
the difference in potential revenue at UCOI using Precious Metals prices "today" compared to just a few years ago... as increases in Precious Metals prices significantly HELP mining companies, becuase their operating costs are generally fixed costs... rises in Precious Metals prices above cost boost profitability significantly...
Gold chart...
Silver chart...
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A must see video clip on the Federal Reserve and the current state of the Dollar...
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/blog/2006/12/michael-badnarik-on-federal-reserve.html
==============================================================
A must read article on Junior Mining Stocks...
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/hommelberg010307.html
Only approx. 10 exploration companies out of over 600 companies will become producers this year (2007)...
NYBob... my source on the dividends was the current CEO of Cusac... he even mentioned they toyed with the idea of paying out divdends in Gold bullion some years ago... he didn't mention the year(s), but the company history goes back to 1966.
Inside Cusac's mill (from earlier days);
Cusac Video:
http://www.b-tv.com/i/videos/cusac.wmv
NYBOB: I heard that Cusac previously paid dividends at some time during it's previous production days... have you heard anything about dividends before?.
RE: Death spiral financing is a possibility, but IMHO it is a remote one in these circumstances
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"a remote one in these circumstances"...
really?... the mounting trail of information (and I haven't even finished sweeping all the dirt from under the rug yet) seems to indicate more than a "remote" possibility.
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POSTED BY ronning999;
There are something over 700 mil. outstanding shares with more on the way courtesy Unico and their 'loan shark' financing deals.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16032818
POSTED BY ronning999;
If there was a LEGAL way to short this stock it would have been, and still is, the absolute no-brainer of the century!!!
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16352852
POSTED BY ronning999;
So long as the 'loan shark' financing continues, look for more of the same.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16361015
POSTED BY ronning999;
And that abuse is basically courtesy of Mark and Ray, especially, their 'loan shark' financing with 'friendly loan sharks' where lawsuits are settled for pennies on the dollar for shares. I'll bet that new transformer will wind up costing hundreds of millions, if not billions of NEW shares
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16404894
POSTED BY ronning999;
All this is gonna cost some big bucks nino and take some more time. More 'friendly loan shark' financing on the way???
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16474470
POSTED BY ronning999;
Regardless, even if they have been sold into the market, which IMO they have not, there are hundreds of millions, if not billions, of additional new shares headed your way courtesy of no one but Unico and their 'loan shark' financing.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16472889
POSTED BY ronning999;
Unico certainly DOES NOT have the shareholders in it's best interests with their 'friendly loan shark' financing.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16473362
POSTED BY ronning999;
And that total will grow as Unico needs $2 mil by the end of the month, which means, the 'friendly loan shark' financing will continue, which means, hundreds of millions if not billions of NEW shares coming your way courtesy of Unico when the convertible debentures are settled in the Florida court for pennies on the dollar in shares.
POSTED BY ronning999;
I would like to suggest that you go to the Unico Raging Bull Board and discuss this matter with Derbenski as he is very knowledgable on the subject.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16508579
POSTED BY ronning999;
I wish you luck on getting your money back, but, don't count on it, the odds are stacked against you in more ways than you can imagine.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16568465
POSTED BY ronning999;
Management is totally and wholly responsible for the obscene granting of NEW shares to settle 'friendly lawsuits' for pennies on the dollar via their "'friendly loan shark'" financing.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16570009
Death spiral financing is a process where convertible financing used to fund primarily small cap companies can be used against it in the marketplace to cause the company’s stock to fall dramatically and can lead to the company’s ultimate downfall.
Many small companies rely on selling convertible debt to large private investors (see Private investment in public equity) to fund their operations and growth. This convertible debt, often convertible preferred stock or convertible debentures, can be converted to the common stock of the issuing company often at steep discounts to the market value of the common stock.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_spiral_financing
RE: NEWS FLASH!!!!!
Nice try... but from 1999 to 2001, Precious Metals prices were bankrupting mining companies left, right, and center...
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What the "distort" crowd would rather you not look very closely at is;
the difference in potential revenue at UCOI using Precious Metals prices "today" compared to those just 3 "years ago"... as increases in Precious Metals prices DRAMATICALLY HELP mining companies, becuase their operating costs are generally fixed costs... rises in Precious Metals prices above cost boost profitability DRAMTICALLY...
Gold chart...
Silver chart...
==============================================================
A must see video clip on the Federal Reserve and the current state of the Dollar...
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/blog/2006/12/michael-badnarik-on-federal-reserve.html
==============================================================
A must read article on Junior Mining Stocks...
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/hommelberg010307.html
Only approx. 10 exploration companies out of over 600 companies will become producers this year (2007)...
Another thing the "distort" crowd would rather you not look very closely at is;
the difference in potential revenue at UCOI using Precious Metals prices "today" compared to those just 3 "years ago"... as increases in Precious Metals prices DRAMATICALLY HELP mining companies, becuase their operating costs are generally fixed costs... rises in Precious Metals prices above cost boost profitability DRAMTICALLY...
Gold chart...
Silver chart...
==============================================================
A must see video clip on the Federal Reserve and the current state of the Dollar...
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/blog/2006/12/michael-badnarik-on-federal-reserve.html
==============================================================
A must read article on Junior Mining Stocks...
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/hommelberg010307.html
Only approx. 10 exploration companies out of over 600 companies will become producers this year (2007)...
The bigger picture at UCOI...
Other than the day-to-day fluctuations...
Unico Inc. Announces Payment of Additional Bond Amount for Amended Large-Scale Mining Permit (Sept. 19, 2006) ...
http://www.unicomining.com//upload/UCOI_PR_09_19_06_IncreasedBondDOGM_final.pdf
Unico, Inc. Announces New Metallurgist for Mill and Processing Facility (Jan. 25, 2007) ...
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/070125/0207423.html
UCOI Tailings Pond...
Nice size Tailings Pond... the liner looks like it's in good working condition too...
http://www.unicomining.com/news/gallery.php?category_id=29
Revenue calc's from just the Tailings...
From UCOI's web site, it says: "In addition the old tailings contain 186,000 tons averaging 0.04 opt Au, 3.6 opt Ag with some lead...
http://www.unicomining.com/investments/2002report.php#2002_deer
Using recent prices.........
186,000 x .04 oz. p/ton Gold = $650 x 7,440 oz = $4,836,000.00
186,000 x 3.6 oz. p/ton Silver = $13.50 x 669,600 oz = $9,039,600.00
APPROX. TOTAL POTENTIAL REVENUE JUST FROM TAILINGS = $13,875,600.00
UCOI's Tailings pile...
UCOI Mill Refurbishment...
http://www.unicomining.com/news/othermedia.php
Gold...
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A must see video clip on the Federal Reserve and the current state of the Dollar...
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/blog/2006/12/michael-badnarik-on-federal-reserve.html
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A must read article on Junior Mining Stocks...
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/hommelberg010307.html
Only approx. 10 exploration companies out of over 600 companies will become producers this year (2007)...
ronning999... if it's all a matter of public record, how come your the only one I've read who's claimed UCOI is involved with loans sharks?... please name names... curious minds would like to know...
BTW, you didn't answer my question; if any UCOI Longs out there who have sufferred serious financial losses in UCOI stock do hire a Lawyer... are you willing to provide info to their Lawyer and help them out?
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Death spiral financing is a process where convertible financing used to fund primarily small cap companies can be used against it in the marketplace to cause the company’s stock to fall dramatically and can lead to the company’s ultimate downfall.
Many small companies rely on selling convertible debt to large private investors (see Private investment in public equity) to fund their operations and growth. This convertible debt, often convertible preferred stock or convertible debentures, can be converted to the common stock of the issuing company often at steep discounts to the market value of the common stock.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_spiral_financing
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POSTED BY ronning999;
There are something over 700 mil. outstanding shares with more on the way courtesy Unico and their 'loan shark' financing deals.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16032818
POSTED BY ronning999;
If there was a LEGAL way to short this stock it would have been, and still is, the absolute no-brainer of the century!!!
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16352852
POSTED BY ronning999;
So long as the 'loan shark' financing continues, look for more of the same.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16361015
POSTED BY ronning999;
And that abuse is basically courtesy of Mark and Ray, especially, their 'loan shark' financing with 'friendly loan sharks' where lawsuits are settled for pennies on the dollar for shares. I'll bet that new transformer will wind up costing hundreds of millions, if not billions of NEW shares
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16404894
POSTED BY ronning999;
All this is gonna cost some big bucks nino and take some more time. More 'friendly loan shark' financing on the way???
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16474470
POSTED BY ronning999;
Regardless, even if they have been sold into the market, which IMO they have not, there are hundreds of millions, if not billions, of additional new shares headed your way courtesy of no one but Unico and their 'loan shark' financing.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16472889
POSTED BY ronning999;
Unico certainly DOES NOT have the shareholders in it's best interests with their 'friendly loan shark' financing.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16473362
POSTED BY ronning999;
And that total will grow as Unico needs $2 mil by the end of the month, which means, the 'friendly loan shark' financing will continue, which means, hundreds of millions if not billions of NEW shares coming your way courtesy of Unico when the convertible debentures are settled in the Florida court for pennies on the dollar in shares.
POSTED BY ronning999;
I would like to suggest that you go to the Unico Raging Bull Board and discuss this matter with Derbenski as he is very knowledgable on the subject.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16508579
POSTED BY ronning999;
I wish you luck on getting your money back, but, don't count on it, the odds are stacked against you in more ways than you can imagine.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16568465
POSTED BY ronning999;
Management is totally and wholly responsible for the obscene granting of NEW shares to settle 'friendly lawsuits' for pennies on the dollar via their 'friendly loan shark' financing.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16570009
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SEC widens probe into 'death-spiral' schemes...
http://www.rgm.com/articles/ft.html
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SEC fines Rhino Advisors Inc. $1-million in Amro death spiral
http://www.rgm.com/articles/rhino.html
=====================
SHORT SELLING, DEATH SPIRAL CONVERTIBLES,
http://www.sec.gov./rules/petitions/4-500/jdfinnerty050505.pdf
========================
Death spiral financing
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Death+spiral+financing
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Firm Sues Funds in 'Death Spiral' Stock Case
http://news.findlaw.com/andrews/bf/dlr/20050630/20050630hyper.html
So ronning999... if any UCOI Longs out there who have sufferred serious financial losses in UCOI stock do hire a Lawyer... are you willing to provide info to help them out?... or are you just babbling?...
POSTED BY ronning999;
There are something over 700 mil. outstanding shares with more on the way courtesy Unico and their 'loan shark' financing deals.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16032818
POSTED BY ronning999;
If there was a LEGAL way to short this stock it would have been, and still is, the absolute no-brainer of the century!!!
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16352852
POSTED BY ronning999;
So long as the 'loan shark' financing continues, look for more of the same.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16361015
POSTED BY ronning999;
And that abuse is basically courtesy of Mark and Ray, especially, their 'loan shark' financing with 'friendly loan sharks' where lawsuits are settled for pennies on the dollar for shares. I'll bet that new transformer will wind up costing hundreds of millions, if not billions of NEW shares
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16404894
POSTED BY ronning999;
All this is gonna cost some big bucks nino and take some more time. More 'friendly loan shark' financing on the way???
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16474470
POSTED BY ronning999;
Regardless, even if they have been sold into the market, which IMO they have not, there are hundreds of millions, if not billions, of additional new shares headed your way courtesy of no one but Unico and their 'loan shark' financing.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16472889
POSTED BY ronning999;
Unico certainly DOES NOT have the shareholders in it's best interests with their 'friendly loan shark' financing.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16473362
POSTED BY ronning999;
And that total will grow as Unico needs $2 mil by the end of the month, which means, the 'friendly loan shark' financing will continue, which means, hundreds of millions if not billions of NEW shares coming your way courtesy of Unico when the convertible debentures are settled in the Florida court for pennies on the dollar in shares.
POSTED BY ronning999;
I would like to suggest that you go to the Unico Raging Bull Board and discuss this matter with Derbenski as he is very knowledgable on the subject.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16508579
POSTED BY ronning999;
I wish you luck on getting your money back, but, don't count on it, the odds are stacked against you in more ways than you can imagine.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16568465
POSTED BY ronning999;
Management is totally and wholly responsible for the obscene granting of NEW shares to settle 'friendly lawsuits' for pennies on the dollar via their 'friendly loan shark' financing.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16570009
SEC widens probe into 'death-spiral' schemes...
http://www.rgm.com/articles/ft.html
====================
SEC fines Rhino Advisors Inc. $1-million in Amro death spiral
http://www.rgm.com/articles/rhino.html
=====================
SHORT SELLING, DEATH SPIRAL CONVERTIBLES,
http://www.sec.gov./rules/petitions/4-500/jdfinnerty050505.pdf
========================
Death spiral financing
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Death+spiral+financing
==========================
Firm Sues Funds in 'Death Spiral' Stock Case
http://news.findlaw.com/andrews/bf/dlr/20050630/20050630hyper.html
=============================
Stock fraud sting operation could be tip of iceberg
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/734641/posts
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POSTED BY ronning999;
There are something over 700 mil. outstanding shares with more on the way courtesy Unico and their 'loan shark' financing deals.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16032818
POSTED BY ronning999;
If there was a LEGAL way to short this stock it would have been, and still is, the absolute no-brainer of the century!!!
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16352852
POSTED BY ronning999;
So long as the 'loan shark' financing continues, look for more of the same.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16361015
POSTED BY ronning999;
And that abuse is basically courtesy of Mark and Ray, especially, their 'loan shark' financing with 'friendly loan sharks' where lawsuits are settled for pennies on the dollar for shares. I'll bet that new transformer will wind up costing hundreds of millions, if not billions of NEW shares
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16404894
POSTED BY ronning999;
All this is gonna cost some big bucks nino and take some more time. More 'friendly loan shark' financing on the way???
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16474470
POSTED BY ronning999;
Regardless, even if they have been sold into the market, which IMO they have not, there are hundreds of millions, if not billions, of additional new shares headed your way courtesy of no one but Unico and their 'loan shark' financing.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16472889
POSTED BY ronning999;
Unico certainly DOES NOT have the shareholders in it's best interests with their 'friendly loan shark' financing.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16473362
POSTED BY ronning999;
And that total will grow as Unico needs $2 mil by the end of the month, which means, the 'friendly loan shark' financing will continue, which means, hundreds of millions if not billions of NEW shares coming your way courtesy of Unico when the convertible debentures are settled in the Florida court for pennies on the dollar in shares.
POSTED BY ronning999;
I would like to suggest that you go to the Unico Raging Bull Board and discuss this matter with Derbenski as he is very knowledgable on the subject.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16508579
POSTED BY ronning999;
Management is totally and wholly responsible for the obscene granting of NEW shares to settle 'friendly lawsuits' for pennies on the dollar via their 'friendly loan shark' financing.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16570009