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Can't text that well in my car but
The P&D I meant to say before these guys
And it it go's
Flip ... If it's dead then the financials are Fraud and
We're talking a whole new ball game here
I've seen what looks like P&D but straight out
Financials Fraud, nope don't think so
That would be jail time if they wanted
Anyway what I'm hanging on to but again,
I really don't know
If it gi'sshoukd bevery big, if not then
We're dead, it's really that simple
Hang in there Flip, I'm guessing it will turn soon
One way or the other, either up
Or dead then we know
Flip, welcome back
You were missed
Mc
II rounded it at 10m but let's see
Flip... I owe you
MC
Oh, I would hate to get my hopes up
too High on that one.
MC
JMH, Why I said all speculation on my part and that I assume
stock has a year waiting period.
Who is the Barron?
This should get intresting in time.
Oh, and if they want volume, all they have to do
is start putting out PR's over the wire and
with the news they're posting,
then that volume will
come, sure they know that, and I'm sure that there's
a method to their madness and one day we will see it.
MC
I could be wrong but I'm guessing that all these revenue
Announcements are for real and the biggest problem
Is all the shares,
And if you think about it I'm sure these people did
Not roll their companies in for free and since they
Really have no monies of vast amounts that
The shares figure in how they were acquired
And I further guess that the shares when issued have
a one year restriction, all just guessing here
Now how much of the stock gets retired, how much would go to who
With the estimated value based on revenue being Generated
Etc that go's down should be real interesting when this happens
There has to be a Master Plan and about the time they
Are close to having tradable share you can bet that
They will care what the share price is
Anyway again guessing just felt like putting it out there
I didn't see that coming....
We're on our way to be a 2M in sales company?
If we can fix those Convertiable Shares
we may really be on to something,
Trader, maybe Lurce could ask these questions and get a answers?
Sounds like he's on good terms with them?
Do you think it would be better to try and
get them all answered at once, or one at a time
Or give him all 3 at once?
I was thinking IR and then the messy shares question
Boy named Sue. Funny, now that will sell
Just, think
You left out the word "not" in a shareholders meeting part you posted
and I agree with you
On that,
But what I do like and like a lot is the fact this guy does not
Just tell you what you want to hear or avoid a direct answer
While picking your pocket, we all know what that's like
Yes he does not have the tools to be a PR guy no argument there
But for better or worst he replies and is blunt and hopefully
truthful which is a breathe of fresh air, and also why I only
Emailed him once and decided once was enough for me
Let him go out and build up
The Apparel Biz
Sorry for the typos but you got the drift
Just, with all due respect, disagree
He's not a PR Guy maybe not even a Resl Management Type Guy, don't know,
He's the guy that works in the trenches and I assume due
to lack of anyone else he's at least responding,
Why I so much Like that we have a new CEO and Management Team moving in (so I think)
Also with his background and culture, it's pretty common,
Just what it is, let him go do with what he's good at as we translation over to the
New crew and be very, very thankful for the numbers he's putting up
All contents of this post based on what they've previously
Put out and speculation
All great questions, balls in their corner if they want
This to move. I think I have enough shares if it moved
But could not recommend it at this point
At least you flused him out, I want to believe he has sales and operation connections
Just out of his element running s public operation
Let him go sell and build and maybe loose the ego and
Get someone in there with smoother edges
What I'm hoping for
Just, yes again I got that out of him in the one email
I sent months ago why I've never tried since
Let him sell Apparrel and hopefully the new guys will
Clean this up, add assets and communicate with
The investors
Just let this guy sell and build, he must be thinking
His zillion shares will make him rich, but if he retired
All but say 4-5 hundred million, got a Ir and keeps
Adding sales it would benefit him and everyone else
Maybe someone will show him this sometime in the
Future
JMH..
I got a response from Mr. K via email way back
in the beginning, I was asking about all the shares
showing up on the market and his response
was somewhat rude and he said something like isn't
that what stocks are for?
So, I figured the plan was to sell them and rasie money,
when I hear he has never taken a salary or sold a share,
I just scratch my head and wonder, ok then if that's true,
what does he live on and why would anyone not take a salary
unless they were living off the shares???
So I don't know, but this does sound today like something
I would expect from my one experience with him way back when.
Remember the story where he didn't know how a corporation
worked but operated under one and got in trouble,
the same may be true about stocks and IR
doesn't mean he's a scam or not selling product, it may
mean that's all he is really good at, not PR, not stocks, etc
That's why I was so glad to hear we have a new CEO and People in to take over that sound educated in what needs to be done, but Mr. K contribution is sales, etc is still important
again, this is all important if this is ligit.
Otherwise just another write off on my taxes, unfortutanly you can only take off what $3,000 a year which I got 50 more years of write off already.
MC
MC
JMH, instead of providing evidence,
just ask him plain straight up,
did he dump all those shares or did he (Peter)
not, they should know and should be open and tell
us, credibility is based on truth,
we want to hear that, until then,
I hope people don't buy.
MC
Trader, I could not agree with you anymore
than that post you just made,
MC
Just, Don't think it was the Peter,
this guy got right to the point,
I think Peter would have beat around the bush
(Peter in the bush, can't believe it came out that way),
anyway I think he would not be that direct and would leave
you with a carrott.
MC
JMH, Kind of what I figured
One argument is that will come out this statement is
it's a scam so they can't give us more fraud,
the other is they're building something and getting
the stock price up is on the bucket list, just not
a priority at this time, and more higher priorities
right now than marketing to shareholders, and focus on
customers for their business. Lot diffrent than it use to
be when marketing to shareholders was more imporant than
building products and services.
So maybe we stay at 0001-0002 for awhile,
may be a good thing if one wants to buy more,
or a disaster if it's a scam as many project,
It's not complicated, either it is or it isn't
and they do update investors,
I assume if they are going to make a push at a later
time, then why spend the money on the Press Releases now
(which I think is $750)
Makes sense both ways
Vegas, you just made my point, I don't think it's
Peter cause his MO is to ramble and avoid a
Answer to a question these guys are straight out
Saying this is What we've done and here are
The numbers, so either they're really building
Something or plain out lieing / fraud
Peter would tip toe around things and not answer to avoid a lie but never seen
Him go to this level, not his MO
And the shares, oh yes, another whole issue
Just ... If they were (odds) in our favor
Everyone would be buying and this would be a mickle,
Of course they're not in our favor
Geez, that so reminds me of when Peter was doing IR,
Ask him a question and he rambles on for15 mins and
Never does answer it, I still paints a picture and rambled
so frustrating, hope things
Will or have changed
Mc
Trader, or look
At it this way, have him retire 90 % of them
And let the stock go up about 900%
In the short term or just hold
Keep it at 0001 and not go
Up and / or not ever be able to sell them
Screws everyone including himsel
How much out of pocket money did he put
Into This and how much has he taken
Vegas, Good question,
If we go based on History you're spot on (my British saying),maybe watching too much TV.
If we go on what they're saying and believe the financials
which I have never seen reported before, Yes, we're in great
shape, except all those Convertiale shares out there,
So am I endorsing it, No,
do I see hugh opportunity, Yes,
Do I know one way or another, No.
and, am I gathering the troops? No, because I have no idea
one way or another.
Is there more visiblity I would like to see? Absolutely
there you have it.
MC
This is either one of the all
Time Scams, or is going to
Make a whole lot of investors happy,
Don't know which, wish I did, bought
More recently (another 7m so not that
Much more)
It certainly is a different model than we've
Ever seen before, are they more focused
On building the company versus baby setting
Us And raising up the PPS at this point?
Is this plus 200,000 * $15 a pop?
I need a box score to keep track
of all the stated revenue producing
items we have now?
Would this be pushing revenues up close to $10m
and growing?
Or did they all get together, make up some web pages
and promotions and decide to be the Great Scamers
I'm tinking that if this is for real they may be more
focused on their business than the stock price at this
time thus lack of IR,.
Intresting, still waiting to see where the apparel is going
could be a fun time, anyway hope so
If this keeps going the way it's being stated and we do fill
in that box score, it will have been worth the wait,
MC
Again, If we can verify things,
I think what Turner is saying, he's doing great,
but I still think what Mr. K is doing is our Meat and Potatoes,
and every time he sets us up like now... "Out of Capacity"
we get a Web Post Release saying something like "New Factory"
or something like that,
anyway, that has a lot of my focus.
Bigger dollar sales.
MC
Flip, I'm all for it,
things do sound great,
we just need to..
1) Do something with all those floating shares
2) Be able to verify
3) Get info out to the majority of investor base,
not just the people here,
then we're off to the races..
can we do these things?
MC
Ok you being pretty sure makes it a Green Light Go
And all the other old posts?
Font a Flip out on us
Filp If real, It Looks Great, Seriously, except,
with all the shares out here, and then the Convertable ones...
Oh MY!
it's like standing on top of a hill with a strong wind in your face,
holding a bunch of PO's / Deposits in one hand
and in the other hand----- taking a Piss watching
it all blow back in your face.
They got to get rid of the Convertiables and Retire some of
the Common, people are scared to buy,
pretty simple if you think about it
MC
For example, if he converted his shares to say 250m of them, we could go up and at ,005 that's what $1,250,00. For him... Did he bring in more assets than that? In fact he's grown since coming in, so
I assume he has taken some money to grow his Apparrel.
Land at .01 his share are $2 /12 m 4 cents $6 m. Yes I would reduce them for sure and everybody wins versus nobody
MC
Just, don't know, not in that loop, either retire them or restrict and
or modify them
If I had them I would rather retire 90% of my shares
To see it go up 300-400 hundred times plus, versus
Just hanging on to them and not be able to sell them
Beyond 0001 if someone was even buying
And I agree with Trader, if Mr. K rolled his Apparrel in
And has not been compensated yet he needs to be
Based on the Value he Originally brought in
JustmyOpinion. See where you got that name
Mc
Trader, spot in great job and soooo true
Just,.., the good news is we know one major reason why it's
Not going to work, and they know (assuming they read the boards) that we know
And if they want it to move, they know one of the things they need to do,
And I assume they want it to move or if not,
Why get into it ?
I would think who's holding the convertibles know that it's not going to
Move unless we can do something with it
Just, thx, good startb