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I think I will email MT and Pedro thye will respond to it but hay one never knows but hay they might shock me a buy my shares for .05 also just to make me go away.
So now to tell the truth that there is no one getting there money. But think it is only a matter of time.
Funny look at it this way. If you owe a company money or if you are a buisnes man and some one has an outstanding account you go and collect your money our you pay your debt. Or they collect from you or legal action is started.
How is this diffrent look at it. They made those claims of the one year they should of had the exchange funded they had a year.
But no they lost money some where or never had it and never intended to fund it. They use one excuss after the other.
Well now they flip here flip there and try this and try that and now investors are saying F you I want my money and they have none.
You know somthing a old platoon sgt once told me that it was ok to step on your #$%$# just do not double time on it.
We all stepped on it but some are NOW double timing on it.
Love it real good what a rocket.
Thank you that is what I have been saying as others. Instead of naming negative posters as not helpful and naming positive posters as helpful all they need to do is address the issues that are serious.
But they do not when are all the belivers going to see that they have nothing if they did they would of paid out what they owed. That would of showed everyone this was real. Right now gold is up to all time highs but yet they do not sell it because they can not. Never heard such CRA$ before. I had gold and sold it very easy. I was buying gold back when I was in the marine corps had a nice little stash nothing big but I sold a year ago should of waited and would of made more.
IT is all there for you to see they are broke. The most simple things to do are so easy to do if you have money. They can not buy back shares on the open market. That takes money to do. So they offer .003 which is way under the offer of .05 per share does that make sense. Turn down a offer of .05 but then offer .003.
They WILL NOT have AF done because there is no money.
Come all wake up they talk about reading 40,000 post and name posters then they talk about a R/S but none of this is in a PR it is on there make believe site.
All the die hard bellievers either left sold out or now are even saying this is a scam. And even some of the longs that are praying for somthing good to happen are now worried.
If the rest just would see this I bet MT and his side kick would back up and run to Panama but as long as there are idiots still buying into it they will stay and steal as much as they can from you all.
Her is one for all why buy a ton of shares at .003 when if the company would just take the amount they said they set aside and buy them on the open market then retire the shares and that would reduce the number out there which intheory wouldhelp the PPS. Why this hole round the bush way.
PEDRO JUST BUY THE SHARES ON THE OPEN MARKET YOU CAN GET ALOT SHARES THAT WAY REDUCING THE AMOUNT HELPING EVERYONE.
WHY HE DOES NOT DO THIS SIMPLE HE DOES NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THIS.
Are they paying you in cash or pdr's that you can not sell
He is mad because the few of us are riding him like a two dollar @#$%#@# does with a drunken Marine in Panama. He is mad that more investors are not buying the cra% anymore.
Look think of it like this if the negative posts where not having any effect then why would he care what is written. The reason he cares is because he is loosing money he sees us as a threat. If this was real then the PPS would be at about .10 or better with the cash and gold if the exchange was rocking and deals happening and the money and certs where flowing in then he would not even read the board.
But he does don't he and he is scared and the guy as someone put once in the cheap suite is afraid of the SEC regulators and auditors coming knocking one day.
So now they fire at the negative posters but yet still even today refuses to address the questions I asked it is just so easy but yet he can not do it.
There is in fact two easy ways one is doing all that work or just pay me .05 per share and I go away.
There is no momey to payout that is what that loan is about.
But the R/S will rise the PPS for about 1 hr then it will crash back to .0001 and stay.
Look if someone invested 10K at say .005 then the PPS drops to .0001 the company does a R/S say for evey 1,000,000.00 shares you get 10,000 the stock will go up but then it will crash to .0001 then instead of having it worth 250.00 it is now worth 25.00.
R/S never help only hurt and as MT stated a year ago there will be no R/S ever. Another lie.
If someone anyone can name just one R/S that was good let me know.
No reply from him I am so shocked.
Well the real reason he had to name posters from Ihub was to let all others know that it was few of us that got this to .0001 and there it will stay and not them. Not just me and the ones he named but many others who where doing this longer then I. I just wished I listen to them sooner. But anyway there little thing has fallen apart and today they are mad as hell and are trying to figure out how to turn this around.
But one must always remember it was not the negative posts that did this it was Pedro amd MT who did this and only them. All the negative posts will not change a PPS if the company can prove the posts are wrong.
At anytime they could of done it but they never did because they know they can not. The simple thing would of been just do what they said they where going to do and there would be no issues but they can not. They still can but they will not just ask yourself the reason why. Someone replyed back to me a few days ago on this board basically they said becareful for what you wish for you might get it.
Well they were right I was wishing for this to be halted and or put so low that it would never rise again. Kinda think maybe that poster new somthing what do you think MT did they know somthing I have no clue.
I love the R/S just another way to try to force investors to go into the exchange like hurry turn your certs in and get the PDRS before you have less shares. Well maybe this will still be halted
I can only pray.
Well to all this shows all what this really is so it is what it is.
Pedro/ MT are what they are. They read the boards and post on them. They look at myself as a nut and someone who has no clue but yet they are afraid of me. Why because I put everything into a diffrent spectrum.
Like others on the boards all I do is point out the simple things that should be so easy to explain. But they can not or will not. Sometimes the most educated individuals feel and think they are some how smarter and need not be questioned.
Pedro come Ihub and just answer these questions.
1.) Why will you not have the all the finacials auditied by a well known finacial institution. If you have the money and gold this should not be a issue.
2.) Tell us which company or individual that offered the .05 was. It is no secret you can do that.
3.) Explain why you will not pay individuals for selling there PDR's I am not talking about you loaning there money to them. And if the answer is about taxes that is not your concearn it is the investors concearn.
4.) Post all the documents and signed deals that PNMS is involved with and a break down on how much is invested with each as a share hold still because no one will buy my shares I want to know. I have the right to know.
5.) All this land that you say you have that was for the divy what shows you have the rights to that land I want to see the documentation.
This is good for a start. But you will not answer these questions because you can not. There is no land no money no gold no offer of .05.
But what there is is a R/S.
A special club where money goes in and not out
land no one has etc...
You reading 40,000 posts and yet you call the supporters good and non supporters bad why do you not answer there concearns.
Do not say it would not change anything. You read my posts then answer me I gave you every chance to prove me wrong but all you did if prove me right the simple statment of the R/S tells all.
You can even see it in the few supporters who posted after that thing you put out, there style has changed because even at this moment they still believe but they have concearns now. They bare where i was 3 months ago still with hope but had concearns.
Come on answer the most easiest questions. All you do is dance around and put out BS come on I am being nice. For NOW.
Hay the offer is still good to you buy my shares for the .05 and I will go away forever.
Look they turn down a offer of .05 but yet My good amigo Pedro says possiable R/S yeah that makes sense. Come on take off the blinders that was not even in a PR once again.
Oh and with that news look at the PPS go it is moving Great job Pedro Great Job.
GOOD BYE ALL BEST OF LUCK
If Pedro thinks by naming good and bad posters are going to change anything or make posters not post negative things he is wrong more will see this for what it is but to stay around and post any more on this is a waste of my time i will move on to other things Anyone that knows I supported this for a long time they lost me very recently with there CR@# they been trying to get away with.
The facts are still there IS NO MONEY THAT CAN BE VERIFIED
NO GOLD THAT CAN BE VERIFIED.
NO LAND DIVY
NO MONEY COMING OUT OF THE EXCHANGE EXCEPT IN LOAN WHICH IS THEM LOANING YOU YOUR OWN MONEY CLASSIC
AND NOW A POSSIABLE R/S
WHY BOTHER.
Already gone pieace out I turned them in a week ago just waiting for the stella news from the great Pedro about nothing thought I would give him and MT one more chance to show us the way to green. Oh PEDRO buy the way I stuck by this for along long time until you could not and would deliver what was said you where going to deliver.
What a scam
ELO maybe i am wrong someone correct me but not to many R/S ever hold there value they go up for a short time then drop like a rock and sit for the end of time.
The real deal is we all took a bath i will sell all remaining shares for nothing and good bye hunter carry on if you like this thing speaks for it self it is what it is NOTHING what a joke. good bye PNMS it has been real
Well I liked the part about the ones who post nothing but positive remarks are good and smart the others are dumb and really bad people.
Well there you all have it reverse split is the only thing that was worth talking about everything else he wrote is worthless. nothing about getting your money from the exchange nothing about increasing the PPS other then a reverse split way to go way to get new investors.
Do a reverse split the PPS goes up and all are still in the red. Great job Pedro great job great buisness plan or the lack of one hay mr. Goodlife still think you got a rocket.
I am new I bought into it not heavy but a nice little amount I will say avg down a little this has some potential but I think there is no rush we will be at these levels for awhile longer. we might see a high spike but do not get worked up it will come back down there needs to be a few quarter of revs before this starts to move north.
IMO I do not think much I think he is trying to regroup. MT is more afraid of the SEC then Pedro is but I will say this do not know if they will be able to pull it off but I feel that they will make a run and try to get this up to the penny range very soon in there thinking that most of us problem children will sell and move on and just go away like most probably will.
I do not think they will get this past .0005 they can not even keep it at .0004. But they are going to make a run for it.
Know in the way they try to do this I can not say and I do not care No matter what they put out in a PR or blog NO one will be able to verify it so it is worthless anyway.
It would be easier to just offer a buyout of the two year guarentee price of .02 or even .015 to anyone that wants it.
The none belivers will take it and run and the CADS will stay.
But it will be a good laugh what ever it is. Also if somthing is PRed the CADS will say see you are wrong But do you know what. This PPS will still be where it is right now. The exchage might be rocking but try to get your money just try.
FOR ALL THE CADS
See I see it this way if I have say an account that has 1,000,000.00 and I need that money because I want to pay for an operaton for say a child so they can live and I can't get the money out then I realy do not have a 1,000,000.00 dollars no matter what people tell you if you can not touch it then you don't got it and that child dies real nice now that is a fictional thing but put your self in a real situation a personnel issue hits your family and you need your cash like Katrina your house gone you a few kids a wife and dog got no place to live what do you do cash those worthless PDRS and buy a place or rent what ever OK they say well we will loan you your money real nice you buisness is gone your employer buisness is gone how are you going to repay it.
SEE THE BIG PICTURE PEOPLE. DO NOT LIVE FOR THE MOMENT DO NOT LIVE JUST FOR TODAY THINK OF WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN I NEVER THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BE RUNNING FROM A BUILDING IN NY AS IT CAME CRASHING DOWN ON 09/11. OK THIS THING WE ARE IN IS BAD VERY BAD.DO NOT GET ALL CAUGHT UP IN SOMTHING THAT YOU CAN NOT OR DO NOT WANT TO SEE AROUND CORNER.
The reason why it is so quiet is that Pedro MT and his side kick have packed up everthing and ran. Pedro should be posting somthing soon to the tone of hay stupids ha you all have been scammed thanks for the green backs we are having a ball at the black jack tables and drink your beer.
I agree but as you see it had a sharp increase and then a sudden drop that to me IMO is a unhealthy rise IMO I like the wave action like we are at the .0002 area over a say two week period we ride the wave say from .0002 to say .00035 slow and steady getting a nice wave look then settle in to the .0003 for a week or two then repeat that wave and over a year or two we are approaching the penny area.
You can get rich fast in penny land if you get in at the bottom and sell high in the high area then get out. I have had two good luck stories and one real bad one FHAL and XKEM where good hits and this nightmare I am in now which I am praying for devine intervention. But usually pinks are nothing but scams and most loose money. Before this week this company was just a typical shell pink now it has a product and a way to sell it. I will invest and waite and pray.
There is a long way to go I do not think there is an investor that will toss 40K into this unless the company buys back some cheep shares to release at a later date if it hit in the penny area it will take a few weeks to eat those up I would be shocked if they go fast.
But I think IMO that if this holds the .0002 area the rest of this week and next week then we might see a bigger intrest. The key is they have a product that they can sell for cash and a place to sell it.
Unlike most pinks they have no product this does risky but does have somthing.
A few people have seen this come up on the radar as somthing with some potential. This stock has a product and a place to sell that product that a certain market of people want. They now have a well known place to sell this product.
It does not matter what individuals investors think of the product or the place the product is being sold at only that there is a market for this product that brings in cash. This place is well known and will make the company money.
IMO this stock will rise over the next few weeks to that still of a sub penny and there it will sit until one or two quarters come out on finacials. If the numbers are good then the stock will start to head in the penny range that is where the investment will start to return money.
Let say you put 25.00 into this at .0001 and it goes up to .01 you made 2,500.00 not bad for a 25.00 dollar return now lets say that same 25.00 investment say over 3 years and the stock is say at .10 do the math find me a savings account that does that return.
Basically it is so low too put a couple of hundred or 1 or 2 k into it could pay off nice. but one must be willing to waite awhile. I think for those who are in under .001 at this point are doing ok we will have to watch it and see. It is the product and the recent PR that has caused some intrest in this. It has YELLED loud and people have turned there heads and for now have caught some investors eyes. No mad dash to jump 100%in but it stopped some and they are watching to see what happens for others they are moving towards the yell slowly. I am looking to pick up a few more next week I want to see how it handles the weekend and the monday open. like i said and shares in the .000's are good for a return
It first must get past .0005 which it can not there is no value look no buying othen then small buys from devoted individuals trying to make it look like there is intrest. the one common thing that shows this is that it can not go past .0004 because there is no confidence in it. No market for it.
I will give them one more chance to show us longs that no longer believe in them that we are wrong. The 18th is monday I will give them till friday to put a PR out not BLOG or some fake BS on some FAKE BS exchange/foundation/ what ever the F you want to call it. IF this JA can not put out a real informative PR and spell out where we are going then it will only prove that I am right as are others that this is BS.
Come on all CADers( cant spell it out I will be deleted) Can't this JA do at least that. Come on put this big event in a PR for the world to read. I bet you he will not. He can't because he can be held to it that way. Because the deal is not real.
Oh yeah he signing his name to paper he is signing for the drinks and the credit line at the card table.
COME ON PEDRO MT COME ON PROVE ME WRONG LETS SEE THIS ROCKET GO. COME BABY SHOW ME THE MONEY. COME ON GIVE IT TOOOOOOO ME. COME ON COME ON GIVE IT TOOOOO ME BABY. GIVE IT TO ME. DADDY WANTS IT BAD REAL BAD.
This could of been somthing they just did not play it right they zigged when they should of zagged
This stock has a shot as long as it builds it self slowly and steady. Smooth is fast. fast rapid PRs cause a jump in the PPS only to see it fall sharp. You can make money. I have all this stock at .0002 a big a sudden jump say to.002 I made a nice profit. But it usually never stays up based off of a fast and steep climb.
I much rather see a steady climb over a year with health spikes and health retraces down you know that nice smooth steady easy wave that always heads north.
You are right on one thing PNMS will crush. it will crush there investors that is about it.
I am new in this one just got in today. What I will say and this no PUMP please read my other posts from today. But I know from talking to a few other investors that bought into this today.
I was put onto this one. Not not saying this is the next best thing just that I and some others like the potential. I hope this is a good one my last one is a total failure. But there is direction at least if they stay on the path then this could be good. The last would of been good but to much to go into what went wrong.
I will check in a week or two.
I am new in this one just got in today. What I will say and this no PUMP please read my other posts from today. But I know from talking to a few other investors that bought into this today.
I was put onto this one. Not not saying this is the next best thing just that I and some others like the potential. I hope this is a good one my last one is a total failure. But there is direction at least if they stay on the path then this could be good. The last would of been good but to much to go into what went wrong.
Well you and I read it like this a sub-penny company who is involved with a sub penny company can not be good. But on the other hand some will try to flip that see they are the real deal. But then why not tell investors on what all these other companies are doing. Kinda fishy no memtion of PNMS
Oh glad to see the rocket is rocking down again this is like a old man wawa can not stay up.
If this is the same company then this info is what should be given out not that it helps but hay.
Amelot Holdings, Inc. Announces Completion of Barbados Refining Facility
Tuesday August 12, 8:00 am ET
First Production Trial Ends in Successful Production of Refined Biodiesel; Company Expects Regular Production to Begin Shortly
SAINT THOMAS, Barbados, Aug. 12, 2008 (PRIME NEWSWIRE) -- Amelot Oil Barbados Ltd. a wholly owned subsidiary of Amelot Oil, Inc. is pleased to announce that the Biomatic 400, an important component of the Company's biodiesel refining facilities, has been cleared by Barbados customs and is at its new home at the Future Centre in Saint Thomas, Barbados, marking the completion of the Group's Barbados refining facility.
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The Company is pleased to announce that on Friday, August 8th, 2008 the first production trial of its Barbados refining facility ended in the successful production of approximately one hundred gallons of refined biodiesel.
``We are very pleased to have arrived at this milestone,'' said Handel Callender, General Manager of Amelot Oil Barbados. ``The successful completion and testing of our Barbados refining facility means that in time, the Company will be able to increase output of refined biodiesel to a level which will one day satisfy this small island's demand for affordable, clean energy,'' Mr. Callender continued.
``The successful launch of our Barbados refining and production facilities means that the Company can continue with the business of securing feedstock -- in this case, used cooking oil -- and pursuing relationships with potential consumers of Amelot biodiesel,'' said Aziz Hirji, Chief Executive of Amelot Holdings, Inc., (Other OTC:AMHD.PK - News) the parent company of Amelot Oil, Inc.
Hirji said additional staff have been hired at the Company's refining facility and he expects regular production at the facility to begin in September, 2008.
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Glad to see the rocket is flying high and fast boy we are approching crazy speek ha goodlife what do you think crazy or what. glad to see we are on our way to hitting that .003
As I see it from being new is the sales they need to do well and make some good quarter profits which will move this north to the very high sub-penny or very low penny range.
It can be done if it moves slow huge spikes only seem to result in huge drops. But it could start to build a steady investor base as long as profits come in.
This over time might even get in to the double diget penny range over a year or two but it must build slowly and steady.
This is a risk high risk but it could pay off we will just have to watch a see No pumping or bashing could see this rise at a good pace which a good steady rise with a health retrace always builds investor confidence more then quick jumps. IMO
Like I said still doing DD on this there is potential for this down the road i feel. I see it like this any deal with a company like walmart or trget or others could have great potential for good revenues. I also feel right now there are a lot of flippers looking to buy at .0001 sell at .0002 or .0003 but for the next 2 to 3 quarters will tell where this is going need to sit a watch it got in very low so not worried about it.
This is a new one for me did my DD and I have tested the waters a little want to see what is going to happen over next few months.
You are right the funny thing is they are saying the american open market is not where they want to be then why lie and say.
The name PayPro Inc. no longer clearly reflects the changes which have occurred nor those still to come. To clarify the planned evolution of PayPro Inc. from a pink-sheet penny stock company into a NASDAQ-listed Pan-American Enterprise and a clearly-defined forward-looking vision and Business Plan, will be re-named the PANAMERSA Corporation.
It is only huge if it can be verified and it is PR properly.
We are what 1 week away from pedro coming back with big news well I bet that we will not hear anything because the scanner is broke and that he could not get it in for a real PR in time so he typed it in the blog or on the exchage just for the inside BLANK club. do not want to get deleted
Any takers on what the PPS will be by 08-22-08. I thought I would be nice and say .0002
A goodlife the news is coming want to buy my shares for .02 might be a deal get them before this ROCKET takes off come on you don't want to miss the boat do you.
I will edit some so not to offend anyone.
Look at the PPS rise boy it is on fire. Oh I bet those PDR's are selling fast and all have a ton of money in there account. To bad you can't get any of it out.
You know what we all should convert all our shares over and become members and take that loan out for our money and just do not pay it back. What are they going to do take us to court.
Let them I do not think they would stand a chance in hell getting any of it back.
Now let me guess after they read this post they suddley might stop all loans or place new rules like put your house as collateral. These BLANK never thought what would happen if investors just decided not to pay back the company for there own money that the company actually owes them in the 1st place.
what do you think BLANK drinkers
No proof nothing Ok developments under way things about to happen etc...... That is what has been going on for more then two years.