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Don't even start on the secondary crap. That was the first thing asked of insiders when Trump was initially brought to fruition. Their response was quick and with authority that this company and its insiders along with "friends" of the company will take care of any immediate cash concerns to see Trump to its lofty end. No, no secondary. And why??? The product is selling itself now and more revenues means profits, not the need for more cash.
What a stupid question.
So?? Every bottle of Trump sold is a collectible? Then somebody will quickly realize this stock is a collectible. Ooops! Already happened!
LMAO!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Trump-Vodka-1l_W0QQitemZ270071682200QQihZ017QQcategoryZ369QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1...
AH Wanders capacity 6 million litres per year.
Number one, I called them.
Second, FRPT issued $152 million on Thursday. The stock is flying.
DKAM is authorized for 100 million. They can create the money to do what has been the goal all along. Create a great market and a viable prodcut that will be a sought after acquisition target. Check your BOD. This is what they do. My mistake, our BOD.
Prophetman? No offense. Correct that. Offense intended. I'll be d*mned if you're going to show up as a penny flipper that trolls the OTC's as a way of life and talk this stock down. You have not done one bit of research. Not one bit of DD. You haven't even picked up the phone or written and e-mail to anyone at the company, a distributor, or been out talking to the people nor were you at the NYC launch party.
This is not your crapola OTC's you've been leeching on since the beginning of time. Did you try to talk FRPT into the ground also? They are still losing money and it is still going higher.
You just start vomiting sales won't come through and they won't be able to meet demand and the company has no money to make it happen.
I would prefer if you kept needless and pointless comments like you just made to yourself. You are worried about a fund with 4 million shares. Well, news for you Nancy. The reason it sat from $.60-.90 for so long is because another "fund" was dumping and moving on. Usually the best sign before a stock goes higher in this market. Insiders have been getting it wrong and so have funds. And another news flash for you. These insiders are not anywhere close to parting with a single share. That I know from due diligence.
Correct on your follow up. Important points to note from my addtional research and posting:
1). Trump's personal gift to Sidney Frank and signed, "You're soooo rich!" tells me he is congratulating him, laying down the gauntlet, and coming after him. Goal 2 million+ cases of Trump Vodka per year as that is Grey Goose's current sales.
2). 5988 cases sales per week. 65868 case sales so far. 47904 cases this Q. $5,077824.00 in Vodka revenues so far this quarter.
3). Projected revenues off intial roll out for this quarter ending December 31 is $8,251,464 on 77,844 cases.
4). This Q's Vodka sales equal a 335% increase over last quarter's Vodka sales. We know this should be true because last quarter was 3 weeks and this quarter is 13 weeks.
5). This Q's earnings release in the middle of March should make the stock fly if it has not already because all new investors will see how sales of Trump Vodka appear to have soared because of more than triple the sales time over last Q just released.
6). No other part of their business is being included in these estimates. Rheingold and Newman's Own can each represent their own exlosive growth.
7). Trump hits the market and instantly steals market share from Grey Goose. Pegged as "the best tasting" Vodka with no afterbite.
8). After speaking to several distributors, we can attest to the initial sales and re-order rate being faster than expected.
9). AH Wanders can produce 6 million litres per year. Production is not a concern at the present time.
Now I'm even going to go a step further. Don't want to step on Billy's toes here! Let's assume a 1 1/4 oz. shot for a drink. That is 20 shots, or drinks per bottle. We have no way of knowing the average consumer's habits that drink Trump. We do know the demographic of those that buy the product though. We can only assume how many people will try Trump to see what all the buzz is about. At 311,393 cases minimum first year, that equates to 37,367,160 shots consumed. That would be ALL, I repeat ALL product being distributed has also been passed on to the consumer and consumed. That is a perfect scenario but highly unlikely. But what if it were true?
We know the demographic of The Apprentice to be roughly 5 million viewers on a weekly basis with about 11-12 million on premiere nights and the finale night. We also know that worldwide vodka sales are $12 billion with Super Premium accounting for roughly 10% of that. With 200 Super Premium brands on the market, would you not think The Donald could garner 5% of that market? I know I could easily see it and probably more. Let's put it this way. For every 1% of the Super Premium vodka market that Trump gets a hold of, that equates to $12 million in annual sales. Right now, Grey Goose has taken command of roughly 19-20% of the Super Premium market with annual sales well over 2 million cases per year. Will Trump steal some of that market share? Can you see Trump sitting at 5% of the market with $60 mil in annual sales while Bacardi is selling Sidney Frank's Grey Goose for $233,000,000+ in annual sales? All this while the market for Super Premium Vodka is growing the fastest in the alcohol industry at over 19%?
http://www.forbes.com/2006/12/08/spirits-gift-guide-forbeslife-cx_nr_1208spiritsguide.html
Check out those collector items on that site. I know of one $300 bottle that should be listed there soon right?
Just real quick back to my initial numbers for consumption. If we take out roughly 20% of Trump consumed in the first year because it is Trump and because of the buzz, then that many people will try it just "to say they did." That leaves us with 29893728 shots consumed. Demographics show that the average Super Premium Vodka drinker that buys product by the bottle consumes 4 bottles per year. That lowers our market to 373,671 loyal Trump Vodka drinkers. That is 7473 people per state that are buying product by the bottle from their local package store. This does not even account once again for ANY individual drink sales, nor does it account for any INTERNATIONAL sales. Currently, the total number of liquor stores in the US is 40000.
No matter how you slice it, Trump at 5% and Sidney Frank at almost 20% is a ratio that will surely change quickly. I have to believe given all these numbers right in front of us once again that Trump is on his way to at least those same numbers of Grey Goose if not more. I can easily see Trump sales at sales of $150-$200 million within 2 years and that would be 8 years faster than Sidney Frank did it. Even more important, a 500%+ increase in growth rate over one stock we know and loved with the symbol HANS.
Maybe all of you should read this. First though, let me be the first to wish everyone a Merry Christmas on Christmas Day! Santa did come and go as always. Nice wins out again! Yes Santa, I see that tall slender package under the tree. Glad you managed to get ahold of some Trump in time for your evening run. I bet your sleigh was full! Most places were sold out! LOL
Now on to the matter at hand. The company did low ball the number on cases. No need to call the company. Underpromise and overdeliver right? Since they cannot give guidance on the many control states waiting to see Trump for the first time then they are working numbers off those states that already have Trump. Remember, the PR said "based on feedback from our distributors". They could ONLY be talking to those distributors that have product, selling product, getting more orders, and already being back ordered. At the time that PR was written, Trump was ONLY in MA,CT,NH,MN,RI,VT,MD,NJ,FL,GA,CA,PA,Chicago,NewYorkCity. Since then, there have been a couple more added but highly doubtful they even have 20 states yet.
I will tell you this. "The goal" as it was so eloquently stated was not to sell 150,000 cases of Trump in the first calendar year as you read in print. The "goal" was to put in print a number that eclipsed the first calendar year sales of Grey Goose by Sidney Frank. At the same time though, if they put out a number that was 500,000-1,000,000 cases of Trump, I can assure you every suitor would be banging on their door. So much time being spent trying to get bought out when there are other things to do right now.
Sales of Trump for October were 17965 cases. These were just to those initial vendors in the initial release states. Since that time, those same distributors are on their 3rd and 4th re-orders from Holland. That is why the full nationwide roll out has been delayed. It's because they are monopolizing new shipments coming in. Keep the current distributors happy that have had product and delay those that do not have it yet.
There is NO WAY, I repeat no way, that DKAM could sell 17965 cases of Trump in 3 weeks and then guide for SLOWER growth going forward as hot as this product is. Assuming no growth and no additional states being released, that number equates to 311,393 cases for 12 months. But we also know that only 1/3 of the country has it at the time the press release was written. One could only assume that logistics play an important part in determining an actual number. October 31 was a point in time. It would be like pumping gas and citing a point on the meter as it is spinning wildly. We would be far better off taking that 17965 number and dividing it by 3 to get per case shipments on a weekly basis. Then we multiply it by 52 to get the annual first year sales. First year case sales would then be that 311,393 figure I used above. Now, here is the staggering part. Those were the case sales from just the roll out states on just that October 31 date. That was just initial shipments to roughly 1/8 of the country. Let's assume $106 per case. We are now looking at $33 mil in first year sales AT A MINIMUM.
Now, let's go one step further. You only have too look at this board to do that. We have 17965 cases on 1/8 of the country being rolled out. As of today, at 5988 cases of Trump going out weekly for exactly 11 weeks now, we are at 65868 cases. We have more than a hunch Trump Vodka will be on The Apprentice. We have people doing anything they can to get the product that don't have it where they live. We have people doing taste test comparisons. We have everyone in 100% agreement that it is the smoothest vodka and the only one with no after bite. We have little bars and pubs selling it like hotcakes that had no definitive market for Premium Vodka in the past. We have people buying the product because they own the stock. We have Vodka buyers now buying the stock because of the product. We have people lining up to buy $300 gold collector bottles of Trump. We don't even have gift packs with a bottle of Trump and two martini glasses with a gold T on them out yet selling at $60. Plus we have not even seen the complete Trump barware sets yet all with the gold T on them. A whole collection to come. We have not even seen the "flavors" yet. You know, the whole line of Trump Vodka. And you know what? We don't have a single INTERNATIONAL SALE YET!!!
Pat, you are shrewd indeed. 150,000 cases? If this hits The Apprentice, that will be one week sales but we're not there yet. For now, I'm working off of 350000-400000 first year case sales at the very low end and would not be surprised to see it more than double that.
Why is this stock under $10? In fact, why is it under $20? I hate that it is because too many people are still being afforded an opportunity to make 5-10 times their money or alot more at this price that will come flying into the stock when they figure out we are sitting on such a huge winner going forward.
Enjoy your holiday.
Here is an ABC Board that has approved Trump Vodka. Personally, I didn't know it came in 4 sizes.
http://www.kdor.org/abc/brands/default.aspx
All State Liquor Control Boards on this list with thumbnails. Unfortunately if they are scheduled for release at their next release date then Trump is probably not listed in advance.
http://www.marininstitute.org/alcohol_policy/state_alcohol_control.htm
I still maintain these were not accumulated in this recent run. There was a known buyer in the market a couple months back that was accumulating large on the first run to $1. Many times, these OTC stock players will wait up to 90 days to file their 13's and usually time them when interest is high. I also know that several insiders have been buying during that same time frame, so we can expect a few more of these to show up one after the other. That keeps interest high and people holding. Then Pat will follow it up with yet another nice sales PR to date and then after that I expect a nice surprise that just could make everyone's year! Just because I expect it doesn't mean it will happen but I'll be very surprised if it doesn't.
Actually, I very much doubt it Raw.
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I'd like to know when they pulled off this purchase. Also not real thrilled that they are also an off shore fund. The address in NY is right in the middle of a group of lawyers offices in that building. It may not be a purchase at all but where The Donald's shares are being filtered through and they manage the charitable payments. I'll keep digging.
Trump Vodka on Donnie Deutsche tonight. Is he finally going to interview him about Trump Vodka? Or, is he going to do the same Trump interview where The Donald says, "Sales of Trump Vodka are through the roof; setting records" and then Donnie cuts him off?
Of course, nobody will be paying attention since it is the holiday weekend and everybody is showing repeats from not through the beginning of the year.
But, if it is the actual interview he did with Trump solely on his branding and how it can make him and those companies producing the products successful, then this stock will rock next week.
Don't take this the wrong way BUT,
Many people have been on this stock since the middle of 2006 firmly convinced of what it was going to do and where it was heading. At the same time it broke a dollar, not one person here said or knew it was going to $2.75. In fact, when it was breaking the $1.20 high, it was overbought and yet it immediately tacked on an additional 129%. At any time, several hedges could show up and this stock will immediately be $5 or $7 or $10. FRPT with huge dilution news yesterday and it could have easily retraced 50% on the "value" of the news. Instead, it is marching for new highs. So I consider it an injustice to everyone here when posters start putting a "value" on the weight of today's news or any news. The stock will go where big money decides to take it and not where a couple people think their charts or the "value" of today's news says it will go. Better yet, to where their bids are sitting to load up a lot more. Just my opinion and a very strong one at that.
Have you seen this video of Rosie/Donald?
I know somebody was talking about it earlier.
Pat is really low balling these numbers IMO. C'mon!!! You old dog. You know you're sitting on 150K by Feb 1.
This should bring some fresh blood since the flippers sold into yesterday's news. Now fresh buyers will send the price higher and leave them staring as usual.
LMAO! They released earnings again!!
Dec 22, 2006 WILTON, CT MARKET WIRE Drinks Americas Holdings, Ltd. (OTCBB: DKAM), a developer and marketer of premium beverages associated with renowned icons, reported results for the second quarter ended October 31, 2006. The period includes the first one month sales on the eastern seaboard of Trump Super Premium Vodka. It is the company's expectation that the brand will be available nationally by the beginning of 2007. On a quarterly basis revenue for the second quarter fiscal 2007 was $2.2 million compared to $0.5 million for the second quarter of the prior year, an increase of 330%. Revenue increased in the first half of the year 210% from $0.8 million to $2.6 million. The increase in sales was principally the incremental revenue gained as a result of the Trump Super Premium Vodka, which was launched in early October. Patrick Kenny, President & Chief Executive Officer of Drinks Americas Holdings, stated, "Sales and sell through of Trump Super Premium Vodka continue to exceed our expectations. Based on feedback from our distributors, our goal is to ship roughly 150,000 cases of Trump Super Premium Vodka over the first 12-months through the holiday October/November period of calendar 2007. Mr. Kenny continued, "We believe the Trump Super Premium Vodka brand, along with our Paul Newman sparkling fruit juices and flavored waters, Willie Nelson's Old Whiskey River Bourbon and the relaunch of Rheingold Beer in near term will all be an important contribution to our sales growth in the coming year. We also continue to make progress in introducing our premium wine offerings." More information on the Company's quarterly results can be found in its 10-Q filing with the SEC.
We have a celebrity in our midst.
Glad to have you on board! Your secret is safe with me!
You'll have to get me really really drunk on TV or really, really rich on DKAM to get it out of me! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!!
You do know PA was blanketed with Trump the past two days? Them Philly boys love their Vodka!
Have a holly, jolly and onward and upward!
OK, Holiday Blue Light Specials Coming!
Absolutely keep on coming down. I love weak handed shares. They are so warm and fuzzy!
Apprentice starts January 7. If I had to make a VERY well informed and educated guess, it will be sometime in the first or second week of February. Most of you can figure out why at that time.
Don't even look at it. This is how it wil play out. Taking care of the flippers now that played the rumor and sold the news. Over 300 have bought now as an investment and are itching to add more on any weakness. From a technical standpoint, it digests the big move and then will start to go to new highs on those additional people convinced this number's quarters are the main focus now; which they are. All over the holiday weekend, a lot of people will be telling their friends who will be telling their friends. Then your next set of sales PRs shows up and off we go again.
Like I said, why even bother watching it today unless you want to see if your order to buy a lot more has filled.
We might be $3+ here shortly!
Great to see you here cpneln. Whatever you touch seems to turn to gold! What a fantastic run you are on!
So, can I assume that with you in DKAM with those gold bottles and your knack for being in 1000%+ winners, this one will go double platinum?
:)
Of course it will!!!
Please take a look at this. Wasn't it Donald Trump who has his own distinct style where his slogan is, "I'm not doing anything new. I'm just doing everything better!"
The similarities here between Sidney Frank and Donald Trump, or Sidney Frank and Pat Kenny are just too profound to ignore.
Please read this and you'll see it:
http://www.forbes.com/2004/09/10/cz_mm_0910goose.html?rl04
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/bizfinance/biz/features/10816/
Grey Goose started because I figured that we were so popular with the bars and distributors were making a lot of money on us. I figured they'd go along if I came up with a vodka. The nice thing about vodka is you make it today, you sell it tomorrow; even Jägermeister is aged for a year. So you don't have to put your money into buildings and machines and warehouses. Just make it today, sell it tomorrow.
The big-selling high-priced vodka at the time was Absolut, which was $15 a bottle. I figured, let's make it very exclusive and sell it for $30 a bottle. I said, France has the best of everything. I asked a distiller there whether they could make a vodka. They said sure. The product manager and I tasted about 100 vodkas on my front porch here, and we agreed on one vodka as the best-tasting.
We submitted two bottles to the Beverage Testing Institute, and Grey Goose won as the best-tasting vodka in the world. So we took $3 million, which was going to be our total profit for a year, and we put it into advertising. We made big, beautiful ads that listed Grey Goose as the best-tasting vodka in the world, and we indoctrinated the distributors and 20,000 bartenders, and when somebody would come in and say, What's your best-tasting vodka, they said Grey Goose.
We gave away Grey Goose to any charity that wanted vodka at its bar. The people at charity events are the people who are our target audience. Sales started to zoom. In 2004 we sold 1.5 million cases.
A few years ago, a banker in Paris asked to see me. He said, "I think you're getting someplace with Grey Goose; a lot of distillers would like it." About a year ago he came to me and said, "I was just with the chair of the board of Bacardi. He says he would give you over $2 billion for Grey Goose." We went back and forth, and then the chairman said, "I'll give you two"--I can't give the actual figure, but it was a lot more than $2 billion.
I wanted to make sure that nobody in the company would quit. So we gave bonuses--if they were with us 10 years, we gave them a two-year bonus. It changed a lot of people's minds. Not one employee left.
I think we really should focus on what was already said by one poster. Perhaps I can say it another way that will shed some additional light. Tonight's earnings release is extremely old news. What needs to be focused on is this company's ability to take one single product and in the course of a 3 week period, after more than a year of preparation, they put more than a 300% jump in quarterly revs on the board. Add to that a dramatic jump in margins and you have a perfect mixed drink for investors and fund players especially those devoted to this sector. You have to have a certain number of things happen that creates the winning combination required for a stock to move to much, much higher levels. Aside from hedges moving your stock well ahead of itself, the company has to do its part. They need a sudden or dramatic shift in top line revenues. They need increasing margins. They need internal cost reductions. They need debt reductions. They need market expansion and emergence in untapped markets. They need an increasing cash position. They need to continue to grow ahead of their sector. By all accounts this is exactly what Drinks is doing or has shown they are in the process of implementing. Tonight's release offered only a glimpse of a beautiful piece of art in progress. It was just three weeks in 6 markets. That in no way is anywhere remotely close to this company's potential. This stock is one that will be traded purely on its potential and will have suitors come calling in short order for that very same potential. The market always looks out 6-12 months. Many stocks do the same thing. Any one that tries to assess this company's "current position" in their sector will have to change their opinion and estimates in an hour, a day, a week, because it is evolving so quickly. Only in the last week has the share price of the stock only begun to show the true potential of what DKAM is doing with record sales volumes and new highs. That came not from people getting in just for the earnings release. They got in because of the story as an investment. There will be those that do flip it and move on. Some will think they can time it perfectly and play in and outs several times. You cannot help that. That is all they know. They don't know how to handle or even fathom being in a 500%-2000% winner. You always need at least two earnings reports to make a pure quantitative assessment of a company. And because of that, DKAM will need at least two quarters of full nationwide roll out under their belts before we really know what we have. That will not be realized until the 3rd release in 2007 with full roll out due sometime in February. Even then, we still will be lacking the control states. On or about the beginning of 2008 is when we'll really know what Drinks is capable of. So, with all the PRs and roll outs and soaring sales numbers coming over the next 376 days, does it even make sense to focus any real attention on something that happened almost two months ago during a 3 week period? Of course not! And between now and then I believe there is little to zero chance this stock has of being priced as low as it is right now.
LOL, First step is admitting...
You have a "stock going a lot higher" problem
Cheers! I'll drink to that!
2 cent loss was due to:
80% increase in selling and administrative
231% increase in sales costs
Trump roll out expenses
Travel expenses to promote and roll out product
Focus diverted away from other product lines
A bankrupt wine distributor
Exactly what was expected on an inital roll out. Full steam ahead!
Fact: great report Missing: Guidance That is left up to us to fill in the pieces. Margins came in higher than even I was told. Back to the drawing board on increasing earnings revisions going out to 2008.
Baby HANS was just born. These sales numbers are staggering and the margins are soaring. Hold on to your hats gang and if anybody sells you best be grabbing every bit of any pull back this stock ever has going forward.
OK, earnings are out! Loss of 2 cents on an increase of 328% in sales.
MAMA is a (**()_)& joke. Now you can see the benefit of having a hedge or 5 on your stock when great earnings are coming. MAMA makes an announcement that says they have a glass of water to sell to put out a California Forest Fire and the stock goes to the moon. You must be kidding.
Earnings in a few minutes guys. Just remember only 3 weeks of Vodka sales, start up costs, etc.. It will be the guidance.
OK I will give you a hint but do yourself a favor and hold it long enough to enjoy it!
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/01/business/01goose.html?ex=1262408400&en=a9e2ad90c711f909&ei...
I have to head out of town. I will leave all of you with this one simple question to ponder today and come back to it over and over no matter what the stock does on this one day.
That question is:
"What is $2.2 billion divided by 62,920,000?"
Yes, I will allow you to peek at your neighbor's paper!
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Well, I'm sitting here trying to run some upward revised profit estimates and it is mind boggling how this company is evolving so quickly. The tough part now is factoring the world wide demand for Trump since The Apprentice is seen in 149 countries. Plus, the expansion plans for Wanders to handle the demand.
NP Raw. What is really strange is there was press somewhere that said 16000 cases for $2 million. Not coming up now for some reason. No matter, we are already 300%+ beyond that.