No more needs to be said. You can continue on your talks about the guarantee and 55 billion this and that in which we will not get discharged. Its cool. Good Luck.

No. Why should I help you out? Apologize for your un called for attacks and maybe I will help you out. V.

Bro, those are examples. There is alot more than that which I do not expect someone on your level to know.

What now, the 4Ws motion is based on ecaps and Neuberger berman and a bunch of other reclass stuff? Which motion are you talking about? Do some DD, bro.

Swiss, do not blame me if you do not know how to DD. That is your problem. The lawsuit exist you just dont know how to DD. I am not going to give you a link or any information. The people here who actually can do DD are just laughing at your attacks. You have no clue how silly you sound by saying the lawsuit is my imagination. You can choose to live in your world of denial and fantasy.

Go ahead,continue your fantasy that we are not dischargable and the guarantee still exists. You are only fooling yourself.

All your theories just like toogood's are now obsoleted without the guarantee. Oh my bad, in your world the guarantee still exists.

No. Go back and reread our deal/bet. Do not try to play games. I will call you out! I am presenting you facts on what I found out like the expungement of the guarantee, you on the other hand is promoting garbage. You and toogood thought LBHI commons are somehow in our trust!! Give me a break.

Okay, I did not do my DD and this accusation is coming from the person that is saying all the 4Ws lawsuits are based on ECAPs. Whatever bro! You like toogood have no clue on what is going on. Be glad that I taught you that the Guarantee is expunged. You are funny.

Swiss, are you taking the deal? You have yet to say you are taking the deal and your the one who is trying to play games

If you are not taking the deal of I will give you all my CTs if the 4 Ws losses all their lawsuits or you give me 50% of all your gains if any money results from any of the lawsuits, then be quiet. Why are you trying to play petty games?

After you accept it, I will confirm and lets make it official. I don't want to play petty games.

Man up, YES OR NO? V.

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Bottonline is their equity is getting money from LBHI. That is a fact you need to accept.

That is unfortunate. I trust the 4Ws will do what they think is right. I support them.

Rex said the ruling and sanction threat by chapman does not scare him but, pissed him off instead and motivated him to fight even harder. Lol.

I got my popcorn ready and my two shots at winning on hand. One shot is I support Rex in the District Court, the other is the upcoming class action vs the bnym

I hope an update is coming. I am willing to wait. V.

That is true. Ecaps got settled. I am not sure how settlements are treated. But, the point is the ecaps equity (preferreds) will get paid and benefit from money from LBHI.

I am not a bk expert so, I am not sure how that is treated since we WERE in parity with the ECAPs preference shares. All this is moot if Rex dont win because as of now, we do not have the guarantee behind us.

No, please repost.

I am doing well. How are you, good sir?

I think the factual bases are being scrutinized right now. Thanks for the ISIN #s.

What are the ISIN numbers for our CTs? Thanks.

Scotus did put a big hurt on fnf. But, the SCOTUS ruling does not effect Lamberth. There are also the shareholder class actions now. But, those mainly benefits the jps.

No, I selectively post. I am not new to fnf.

I think commons will see about 5-10 dollars at the end, if we can win collins, lamberth or the class action.

I think if 50s get 50 dollars, commons should get 10. I am giving 50s, 500% for being a 50 jps.

I think the pps are adjusting to their proper value. 50s are moving the most, then 25s and commons are properly valued at this point.

This is all clouded by YE selling for tax purposes.

Commons are not participating in the santa rally.

Lets continue discharge tomorrow. Its interesting relating to our sub debt.

Good night. Get some sleep cheese.

I have no comment. The brokerage operations is absorbed and rebranded. I dont think barclays is planning anything.

Also investment banking is on the decline. At one point, they wanted to spinoff the lehman brokerage again because its not as profitable as it used to be. The fee structure for brokerages went through an overhaul. Jmho.

We are not getting paid because imo we are marked for discharge. We do not have the limited discharge protection anymore. Lol

You should tell Rex this. Just in case he is not aware of this. What happened to Joe Waske? I thought they were both on Appeals.

I am waiting for Joe's motion. Its not on the dockets? Is Rex flying solo or are they planning something with timing and strategy?

We can speculate because Sexy Rexy will definitely not answer that question.

I also hope to read more on the junior sub debt securities provision if someone is kind enough to post the motion.

Thanks

The long lasting argument is that we are not in chapter 7. We are in chapter 11. And even though lbhi said its a chp 11 liquidation, my recollection is on the filing its a chp 11 reorg.

I have no opinion on the patent stuff.

Hold me to this question tomorrow. I want to talk about what is in our subordinated debt. It matters if we have the guarantee . I truly hope it gets restored.

Bottomline with ecaps is I am not sure. The finalized terms need to meet certain criterias. If those are guarantee criterias then NO. If it meets the subordinated debt security criteria, then yes. If its settled, I dont know.

You can banter on if ecaps are finalized or not. My answer is stated above.

Answer: the guarantee is a lot of things that we need but currently disallowed and expunged. Its too late to go into details of all of it.

Talk about discharge at a later date. That thing is a beast too. Lots of details. And one of them is lbhi cannot choose who gets discharged or not. There is also an order process to it. And we are on the shit side of that process as 10b. Once 10b is discharged, its all over for us with lbhi. We are done. That is why we need the limited duscharge protection from the guarantee and all its rights and provisions

The truth is I dont know right now. I have to reread Rex's motion. I want the answer to be yes. I am leaning towards yes.

Even though your justification which is based on the guarantee which is a flat out No until Rex restores the guarantee.

I want to explore the subordination provision of the ecaps. If the subordination is base on the parity provision then no at this time.

I want to read the ecaps prospectus to be sure that they have subordinated debt securities and those are the ones getting paid. If their subordinated debt securities is getting paid, then YES because our junior subordinated debt securities are only subordinated to senior debt and not subordinated to subordinated debt securities of any affiliate or sub as stated within the junior sub debt securities provision which is not a part of our guarantee.

With that said, ECAPs got settled. If the settlement is just paid them this amount and do not say its for the sub debt securities, that scenario is I dont know. Go ask Rex.

I think I gave you a fair answer.

Pari passu in what way? Please explain.

Toogood, I read the 2011 Order. Its attached to Rex's motion. I can truly say that I understand. The order is there. Did you read it? Or just talking imo, imho, etc etc?? V.

No. You need to read what I said. All scenarios that involves the guarantee are down the toilet. Which is I believe includes all yours and toogood's scenarios right? I think I am.

If you want to talk ecaps we can. You want to lead off?

Just because it was in talks before I was here automatically makes it true and accurate?

Does the Article III court know about this relating to our CTs? Thanks.

I am going to defend the CTs. Not just bring bad news.

Our 10B junior subordinate debenture should get us paid with the UK Litigation. That is without the Guarantee.

All the "I cant handle the truth people who need a safty blanket" are beginning to turn on me. Its okay. Calm down. Highway gots your back.

I will replace the false hopes that they desperately try to hang on to with real hope. I am not joe, guster or wayne. I am Santa Claus.

Do you know how a discharge works?

Next question, who do you think will get discharged?

Informing the board that our guarantee claims are disallowed and expunged is the right thing to do. Otherwise, all you peeps will be wondering around in circles blindly while Fail and Chapman laugh at you guys.

I know you don't want to hear that our guarantees went down the toilet along with our guarantee claims back in 2011. Its a fact, friend. The messenger always get killed.

All those theories that was discussed here post 2011 are just flat out wrong because they assumed that our guarantees were effective throughout the bk. You folks were barking up the wrong tree.

You guys wasted 10 years time. I get it. We are barely trading now. Not even quoted. We are not compliant with the SEC and staring at a delist and a discharge. But hey hiding and being ignorantly blind is more comfy. It keeps the hope alive. I get it.

I am going to support Rex. He is all we got left.i also took out the insrance policy with the BNYM class action. I am doing all I can to survive the BK and trying to salvage my gamble here. I have two shots left as far as I am concern. V.

Lets be clear, so we are in agreement that LBHI will use the discharge. Right?

Argus, dont you find their scenarios out there? They are not base on facts at all.

Come on.

1. We have LBHI equity in our Trust. Too good said there is lbhi common shares in our CT Trust!!!

2. Regarding the Guarantee, everyone here gets a pass. No one knew it was disallowed and expunged in 2011 until now. I did not know until recently by talking to Rex.

Sorry guys, the facts are our guarantee went down the toilet with our guarantee claim.

3. There is LBHI and the Plan Trust?

4. Barclay owns LBHI?

5. Better yet, JPM does. Wtf?

6. They will not use the discharge when weil specically said we they will on qtr reports.

Etc etc.

I might just hop on the bus and shut up knowing most of the stuff on this board is BS. The ignorance here will get paid too if we win in the Courts.

Argus, come on man, maybe that is why you are so quiet. Lol

Swiss, go look at the post. I said if they lost all their lawsuits I would sell and I will.

Also, there is only the Plan Trust left. There is no more LBHI but the class 12 as a holder.

There is not a LBHI and the Plan Trust. Are you guys making this stuff up as you guys go along? Really? No.

Which case? Keep in mind the main guy is Rex. He is involved with all the cases. If Rex is involved with all the cases and he is still active in the District Court, did THE 3 lose all their cases yet?