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guta sorry I missed that post entirely.
Your post #37895 is exactly what I was referring too.
I don't feel it was granted the appropriate amount of signfigance. However, until this last PR I haven't examined the level II trading as PR's were released so I cannot comment on the whether this is a common occurence (spike immediately following a PR) or if anticipation and PR subject matter play a very vital role in the type of price movement. (maybe all PR's induce a spike, maybe only some do)
Is there a way to check out Level II trading for dates in the past? OTCBB.com only appears to have the current days movements... is there an archive somewhere? I'd like to do some more studying.
Works fine for me. EOM
July 25th High 1.05 Spike
Did we all miss this? I was told about it today.
Anyone else notice the share price spike to 1.05 on the China patent news. Great sign. To me (and a few others) this indicates a massive buying spree in anticipation of an order announcement. Check out the times... yahoo finance dates the PR at 12:52 pm... well surely it was a little before then.
At approx. 12:50pm 143,900 shares were traded. High 1.05 Low 0.96. If this doesn't indicate an almost cat like response to "China" news... I don't know what would... there's an order under here somewhere... notice that in the next 5 minutes at 12:55pm we dropped back down to 0.99 as people undoubtedly realized this was not a purchase order... as expected...
We haven't touched 1.05 since Jun 29th - July 10th (Award PR and cancer findings to be published PR)
And before that 5/23 was the last date we saw 1.05 on. Which was the winding down of the GE agreement and Aldveron order excitement...
I'm having excellent trouble predicting future share price movement however. All we need is a big order... or a factory... whatever comes first...
Arnold BAX and ACAM are partners
=DJ UPDATE: Acambis Shrs Hit By US Smallpox Contract Glitch
By Sten Stovall
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
LONDON (Dow Jones)--Shares in Acambis PLC (ACAM) fell more than 15% Wednesday after the vaccine developer said its revenues would be hit because the U.S. government had changed the conditions for a new smallpox vaccine contract for which it's competing.
The Cambridge, England-based company said the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services had revised preclinical and clinical testing requirements for the contract, and extended the planned delivery timetable to 60 months from 24 months.
"With this change in the timing of activities and, therefore, revenues, it is expected that 'predictable' revenues overall will be marginally lower than the guidance for 2006 of GBP20 million to 25 million previously provided," Acambis said in a statement.
Acambis and partner Baxter Healthcare SA are competing with Danish rival Bavarian Nordic A/S (BAVA.KO) for a contract to supply the U.S. government with a weakened form of smallpox vaccine suitable for vulnerable members of the population.
The U.S. government has been very active in bolstering its emergency smallpox vaccine stockpile in the eventuality of a bioterrorist attack.
Acambis shares fell as low as 150 pence in morning business Wednesday, from Tuesday's 177 pence close. They then recovered somewhat by 1057 GMT to stand 9.7% lower, or down 17.25 pence, at 159.75 pence in a higher broader market.
Company web site: http://www.acambis.com
By Sten Stovall, Dow Jones Newswires; +44 207 842 9292; sten.stovall@dowjones.com
(END) Dow Jones Newswires
July 26, 2006 07:21 ET (11:21 GMT)
Copyright (c) 2006 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.- - 07 21 AM EDT 07-26-06
End of Transcript
I post this not only to show the setback to a rival company but also upon further examination of the ACAM stock who has lost 23.95% in the last 52 weeks and has an EPS of -1.17 a total debt of 20.16 Million and total profit of 22.89 Million which is eaten up considering the Net Income Avl To Common Shares is -62.17 Million. Is trading at 6.16 on the NASDAQ.
If we can show any form of revenue there is no reason we won't be moved to a major exchange. Our partner's are industry leaders (Aldveron & GE) and are soon to be international. Our potential revenue is in the 100's of millions of dollars...
It's only a matter of time. CYGX (to me) is no longer a question of "if" but of "when". Put in your sell orders for 3.00 now... haha...
OT: Other stocks.
Great news today coming out of ConocoPhilips... I added a few shares early last week. The P/E is a paltry 6ish. I may not be a certified analyst but it's oil people! At a P/E of 6ish, a P/B of 1.5 and the second largest market cap in the industry ... this is like a no brainer for me... sure it's damn near impossible to gain 20% on it's revenue... but hey... who thought Google could possibly earn more (let alone 70% more)??? And you can't get a 20% winner everytime... a solid 10% is fine with me.
At the same time I picked up some Halliburton right after the split... got half my shares at 31.50 and the other half at 30.10. Now they're on their way back up... I was hoping it would keep dropping as I'd like to buy more... we'll keep an eye on it. Again... it's oil so it's all gravy...
Thoughts? Suggestions? Anyone else been following these guys for a while or own similar undervalued oil prospects? I'll share if you share.
SEC Chaulks One Up For The Little Guy
Maybe they were watching our board! Read the very last line! I bolded it! Woo hoo!
AP
SEC Requires More Exec Pay Disclosure
Wednesday July 26, 12:26 pm ET
By Marcy Gordon, AP Business Writer
SEC Requires Disclosure of More Details of Executive Pay and Options
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Companies will have to provide more details of executive pay and perks under the most substantial overhaul of benefit disclosure policy since 1992, adopted unanimously Wednesday by federal regulators.
And amid a widening scandal over suspect timing of stock option grants to company officials, the Securities and Exchange Commission also is writing new rules on disclosure of the dating of options. The five SEC commissioners voted unanimously at a public meeting to adopt the plan, which is expected to take effect next year.
For the first time, public companies will be required to furnish tables in annual filings showing the total yearly compensation for their chief executive officers, chief financial officers and the next three highest-paid executives.
Most of the disclosures, in annual reports and other regulatory filings, will have to be written in plain English.
The plan is designed to enhance corporate accountability and address an issue that has angered company shareholders and the public. In expanding probes, at least 60 public companies have disclosed that their options practices are being investigated by the SEC or the Justice Department or both, and the SEC itself says it has at least 80 companies under scrutiny.
At issue in many of the investigations is a practice known as backdating, in which stock options are retroactively issued to coincide with low points in a company's share price -- a move that can fatten profits for recipients of the options when they sell their shares at higher market prices.
Backdating of options can be legal so long as the practice is properly disclosed to shareholders and approved by the company's board, experts say.
Improperly disclosed backdating "is a serious potential problem under the federal securities laws," SEC Chairman Christopher Cox said Tuesday in testimony before the Senate Banking Committee. "I believe that illegal backdating goes to the heart of investor confidence."
The SEC rules on disclosure of executive compensation include new requirements for companies regarding disclosure of options timing.
The plan requires companies to provide detailed information on how they determine when executives receive option grants and, if they do so, how and why they backdate options. The required tables showing option awards to executives will include the date that options were granted. If the exercise price is less than the stock's market price on the date of the grant, a separate column will have to be added showing the market price on that date.
Companies now are being asked to answer questions in their reports such as:
--What was the role of the board of directors' compensation committee in approving a program of timing option grants for executives?
--What was the role of the company's executive officers in such a program?
--Does the company plan to time, or has it timed, its release of significant information for the purpose of affecting the value of executives' stock options?
The government's first criminal complaint in a stock options probe came last Thursday, when the U.S. Attorney's office in San Francisco charged the former chief executive of Brocade Communications Systems Inc. with fraud.
Gregory L. Reyes and another former executive of the maker of data storage devices, Stephanie Jensen, also face civil charges lodged by the SEC. Their attorneys have said they are innocent.
A central allegation in the government's case involves backdating of options awards. The authorities also allege that Reyes and Jensen regularly backdated minutes of meetings of the company's board so that it appeared that the compensation committee granted options on dates that Brocade's share price was relatively low. In fact, the authorities allege, no such meetings occurred on those dates.
In the SEC plan adopted Wednesday, the true costs to companies' bottom line of their executives' pay packages -- including stock options -- will have to be spelled out.
In addition:
--New disclosure tables for executives' retirement benefits and the compensation of company directors would be required.
--Companies would be required to explain the objectives behind their executives' compensation.
Securities and Exchange Commission: http://www.sec.gov
Kanga, A Series of Comparitive Analysis
Disclaimer: I know next to nothing about Plasmid DNA replication or DNA Vaccine production.
With that said, using my astute powers of observation and deductive reasoning I have assumed the following to be true.
synDNA is in no way a hinderance to entering a vaccine candidate into Phase I/II/III trials. (however to date a vaccine candidate based on synDNA has not entered any such trial therefore I cannot confirm this and is one of my legitimizing steps that need to occur prior to a big pharma contemplating a buyout)
From the original Aldveron order PR.
"Plasmid DNA is commonly used to make many copies of a particular gene. These genes are used by researchers to test DNA-based treatments for a wide range of diseases. Traditionally, plasmid DNA is manufactured via a complex process that involves processing bacteria to yield high-grade amounts of plasmid DNA. CytoGenix' product is produced synthetically and no bacteria are required, thereby speeding the production time and increasing the purity and quality of the DNA."
I'm pretty sure the synDNA is used primarily to copy genes... which are then subjected to different "treatments" to find a viable vaccine candidate/method.
What I can't figure out is if the extent of synDNA's usefulness is soley in the "Target Validation" portion of DNA Vaccine production or if it can then also be utilized to help produce quantities of the vaccine itself... I'm in way over my head here...
LoL Kanga... Death to Infidels!
You raise a good point and not an entirely inconceivable one at that. A larger pharma would be well advised to buyout our little CYGX here for a mere $5 per share. For a mere $600 million dollars you too can own the best DNA plasmid production technology since the chicken egg. (that's how you grow e-coli right? Probably...)
However there are a few more legitimizers that need to occur first. A successful Phase I trial for example using synDNA. The construction of a cGMP Manufacturing facility (tangible assets). A large (>$10 million) sale of plasmid DNA for use in vaccine production.
In the meantime the licensing of our patented technology would serve the purpose just as well... But the lack thereof leads me to believe they're guarding their intellectual property with the tenacity of a pitbull. Effectively reducing one's exposure in the takeover market and keeping them under the radar so to speak.
I don't think being bought out is currently, or has ever been one of management's "outs". If it is it's that case Ace... the last one in the deck and you have a 1/47 chance of drawing to it. (odds are probably worse... this isn't poker... or the 1990's)
Latest PR = Pre-Emptive Strike
The China deal is done and has been done for weeks. Why this seemingly obscure announcement was made is beyond me. Of course ssDNA expression technology being patented in the Republic of China is excellent news...
I just fail to see why this particular announcement was made now. I don't want to sound ungrateful because this really is good news, but there's no way in hell it's going to move the share price.
Now a hundred million dollar order... that might do something...
Valued Shareholders: January 2006
We at CytoGenix send our best wishes to you for a healthy and prosperous New Year. This update marks six years that we have been working on the gene down regulation and expression technology that began with single stranded DNA expression vectors and has progressed to cell-free production of synthetic DNA. The level of activity has reached a point that it will be more efficient to provide the details of Company progress via our web site... -MS
And I'm just going to stop there...
Patents:
Anyone know how to search and find this particular patent application or the other 46 patent applications and our currently held patent. I've had to search for patents ONCE before... it was far from an easy endeavor and I can't remember where I eventually found it. (it was a medical device patent)
If someone could find these patents and post links that'd be great. I'd just like to see who the inventors are.
downregul8 My Thoughts Exactly
I read the PR 5 times and I just kept shaking my head saying... "so we have the patent right? so we have the patent right?"
I too also feel we were granted application approval... but this should translate into an approved patent... right!? I mean why would you announce the submission of a patent application and word it as such...
CytoGenix Patent Application Allowed in People's Republic of China
"This is the first foreign patent allowed for this technology and it covers an important market. China offers significant opportunities and we are seeking appropriate Chinese licensees and partners." - Yin Chen
However, thankfully Dr. Chen seems... to be less ambiguous and refers to it directly as a foreign patent. Which is a plus. Also if it was filed in 2000 it must be a patent... right? Riiight...
However, you'll note the bottom of the PR:
About CytoGenix, Inc.: CytoGenix, Inc. is a Houston-based biopharmaceutical company that develops and markets innovative products and services based on its proprietary ssDNA expression technology. The company has developed a breakthrough synthetic process for large-scale production of high purity DNA at a fraction of the cost of traditional fermentation methods. CytoGenix currently has one issued US patent and 47 international or US pending patent applications claiming methods and materials in connection with this platform technology.
Shouldn't the preceding of changed from "one issued US patent and 47 international or US pending patent applications" to "one issued US patent and one issued People's Republic of China patent and 46 international or US pending patent applications"???
Maybe Malcy was reading our griping about his salary and our griping about the lack of patents and rather than take a pay cut he releases this to confuse and befuddle us... Wee!
doublekoko NO NO NO ssDNA is not synDNA
GO back a week or two and find my post synDNA vs ssDNA. There were some great answers describing these two often confused items.
The patent application has nothing to do with synDNA.
As far as your estimates... peak capacity is irrelevant if demand is non-existent. The question is not and will not be for a long long time "How much can we make?" The question now as it will continue to be fore the forseeable future is "How much can we sell?"
A much more abstract question requiring first hand knowledge of the company's market strategy. Which has been described as selling our excess synDNA capacity to help fund current and future ventures... we have no idea what our "excess" capacity is, let alone our "required" capacity...
Formulations about expected profit and impact per share at this point is futile. Also you must factor in profit margins and COGS and taxes and interest (if debt is accrued)... The 10-Q may tell us more... then again it may not... good luck.
HC CY303 = Psoriasis Topical Cream EOM
Chinese Patent Filing... say what!!??!!??
What an interesting PR... although not what I was anticipating. I can't help but feel it isn't entirely unrelated and is being used as a stepping stone into the real PR...
I honestly feel management is toying with us, isn't releasing half the information they have available and is quite proud and sure of themselves.
Management, stop getting rich off our money... now cough up the 100 million dollar order or I'm voting no on your proxy next year. (sigh) So many shareholders... so little control...
Guys I Unfortunately Concur
Raising your own personal salary with shareholder's money is F'N assanine. Especially when you're 70+ years old and might not even see profit in your lifetime... surely he must have other sources of income... at age 70 I hope he doesn't NEED to work...
It makes me question MS's priorities.
Get your facts first then you can distort them as much as you please.
Yesterday was very much a good day considering we ended up a cent with 3 times the average trading volume. Does this indicate news? Or just opportunists taking advantage of one holders desire to get out of dodge?
Either way it allowed me to average down a bit. I hope it happens again monday... but somehow I feel news is imminent. If volume is any indication...
Great day today! I was upset.
Grudgingly buying more at .89 in order to try and average down. Mostly out of spite... Then what happens... BANG! up a cent... never did I think we would close UP today... glad I bought DOWN.
Anyway. China deal's done... maybe... await news.
Who else added today?
We haven't been at this price in months.
Just added at .90 eom
Nearlynapping I cannot answer the Isis questions.
I have no idea to what you are referring in terms of the Isis molecule in relation to the commerical application of Simplivir.
Also the information is accurate about the stock options and was quoted from the 10-K. Although as arnold pointed out they are authorized to issue up to 350 Miliion shares... (only 36M in options currently exist however)
More options and or PPO's could be possible to the tune of 190 million more shares.
Stock Options
From the 10-K:
We have outstanding 124,460,970 shares of common stock as of December 31, 2005 and all are or will be after the date of issuance eligible for sale under Rule 144 or are otherwise freely tradeable.
Our employees have been granted options to buy a total of 35,004,000 shares of common stock as of December 31, 2005. The options granted have exercise prices between $.185 to $1.01 per share. The issuance of the shares of common stock to be issued upon exercise of these options, has not been registered as December 31, 2005
We may issue options to purchase up to an additional 996,000 shares of common stock at December 31, 2005 under our stock option plans.
124,460,970 + 35,004,000 + 996,000 = 160,460,970 Fully Diluted Shares Outstanding
At $1.00 a share that's 160.4 million fully diluted market cap on a company worth $407,521... eh hem... well we certaintly aren't undervalued... lol
Nearlynapping No Way In Hell
CytoGenix Files US Patent Application for synDNA™ Vaccines and Other Therapeutic Compounds
Houston, TX (January 26, 2006) CytoGenix, Inc. (CYGX.OB) announced today that it has filed a patent application titled Method of Making Nucleic Acid Therapeutics with the US Patent and Trademark Office.
Malcolm Skolnick, CytoGenix, Inc. CEO commented, "We will seek broad protection for the application of our synDNA process and its applications to DNA vaccines. This application incorporates the results of our successful animal tests of DNA vaccines against Smallpox, Hepatitis B, Influenza and HIV and extends the range of the protection of our technology."
With a 3 year backlog, synDNA will be patented by 2009. There is no reason (implied or otherwise) suggesting that CYGX "simply has not requested that the patent applications be reviewed and approved for some as yet undisclosed reason?"
Malcolm is a registered patent attorney... in other words, the most capable of individuals in expediting this process if any expedition is even possible.
I do have another problem though. Why is this 70 year old man making $420,000 a year in an unprofitable company? With 2.3 million shares of stock?
Are there any other stock options yet to be excerised?
And what ever happened to Jett? Is he still a major holder? I couldn't find his position anymore and I forgot where I had seen it. Is it in a SEC filing? If so which one?
SIMPLIVIR Update
Anyone?
Toxicology testing is ongoing, and Pre-IND discussions with FDA experts in the Division of Cellular and Gene Therapies within CBER have helped to clarify the additional pre-clinical requirements to facilitate filing of an Investigational New Drug (IND) application.
And these requirements are????
When additional supporting studies using SIMPLIVIR based on synDNA™ are complete, we will file an IND to allow for clinical evaluation of the product.
Which supporting studies do they speak of? The last study I found relating to SIMPLIVIR report was released on Mar 2nd 2005... over a year ago.
I think as owners of the company we're due for an update.
My Analysis.
I don't see anything worth getting excited or dejected about. We're at a dollar. We've been at a dollar since May 9th (+/- some cents).
This thing could go either way in my opinion. Back down to .87 or up to 1.50. However, faith, hope and goodwill is going to keep us at a dollar I believe.
However, if the 10-Q comes out, showing additional operating loss greater than the revenue (if any) from the Aldveron deal. I expect the stock to be priced accordingly so long as there isn't "good news" to offset "facts and figures".
P.S. I like the 4 cent rise on 360 shares... Nothing beats the .13 spread on two 500 share trades for BGII though. Or how bout today... 2000 shares traded... down 17.81%... amazing... good thing my risk tolerance is high-very high...
OT: The market, Israel, OPEC and you.
Ok so it's 1967 all over again. What has changed?
"Of course [the world price of oil] is going to rise," the Shah told the New York Times in 1973. "Certainly! And how...; You [Western nations] increased the price of wheat you sell us by 300%, and the same for sugar and cement...; You buy our crude oil and sell it back to us, redefined as petrochemicals, at a hundred times the price you've paid to us...; It's only fair that, from now on, you should pay more for oil. Let's say 10 times more. "
Well two things have changed that I can think of.
1.) If accurate, the US may be sitting on more oil than all of the Middle East combined. (google Secret Colorado Oil)
2.) Our military forces occupy 2 Middle Eastern countries, somewhat logistically compared to Iran anyway.
This is going to get worse before it get's better. Up until now, Israel attacked specific Hamas and Hezbolla targets, now they've switched gears to "total war" complete with blockades, destruction of infrastructure and high civilian casualties.
Are we NOT going to bail Israel out this time? Is that going to be the difference? Surely it almost seems like the better alternative... Why do we like them so much again?
CYGX up +1.06% BGII up +4.29%
Solid day for CYGX as a whole... July is looking better than June although not by much. Some news would be nice...
I'm actually looking forward to the next PR but aren't in any particular rush. China, HIV or Bird Flu Vaccine or Factory news any of which would be great. The CYGX camp seems fairly quiet, even the bashers have refrained the past few days.
As for BGII we had a scary -11% drop for a while on 500 shares traded at the bid of .62 Then 500 more traded hands at the ask of .73 Some pretty peculiar trading... (the last day it traded before today was June 30th) when 6K shares traded at .70 Still expecting significant increases in revenue on the 2nd Qtr report... plus the buyback announcement and the already moderate - undervalued price and we should see some nice rises come end of August.
OT: HANUMAN not my words
That post was not written by me, merely some propoganda I felt worth sharing.
I don't care how you rationalize their reason for attacking us. In the end, it doesn't make two licks of difference. Their fate is the same regardless... their death has been brought upon themselves, by themselves. Let me mince no words about my feelings towards fanatical religious worshippers.
If you truly feel that your cause is just, right and good by all means pursue it. And if you feel your salvation comes in the form of a firey blast for the glory of god, then may I say with the utmost sincerity, that it may not come soon enough. I know a few pilots who would be more than willing to appease your desire to meet god.
It has nothing to do with our culture or their culture or the difference between the two. It has nothing to do with freedom or the lack of freedom or the difference between the two. It has everything to do with fear. Fear of lost control, fear of change, fear of death and fear of damnation. These 4 influences alone are the psychological weapons the radical leaders are using to brainwash the uneducated ignorant young men of the Muslim faith into carrying out the personal agendas of a small minority of people of power... (one could say the same about our own military)
Forgive them father, for they know not what they do.
OT TOS Violations USE OT: on POLITICAL POSTS!!!
OT: Let Me Share Some Propoganda
Got this in an email from a client. I tend to agree whole heartedly and once we define the enemy as radical Islam we can take measures to eliminate it.
This military doctor really got it right.
> > >
> > > MG Vernon Chong, USAFR, forwarded:
> > >
> > > This WAR is for REAL!
> > >
> > > To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through it. Our
> > > country is now facing the most serious threat to its existence, as
>we
> > > know it, that we have faced in your lifetime and mine (which
>includes
> > > WWII).
> > >
> > > The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the fact that there
> > > are very few of us who think we can possibly lose this war and even
> > > fewer who realize what losing really means.
> > >
> > > First, let's examine a few basics:
> > >
> > > 1. When did the threat to us start?
> > > Many will say September 11, 2001. The answer as far as the United
> > > States is concerned is 1979, 22 years prior to September 2001, with
> > > the following attacks on us:
> > >
> > > * Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979;
> > > * Beirut, Lebanon Embassy 1983;
> > > * Beirut, Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983;
> > > * Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988;
> > > * First New York World Trade Center attack 1993;
> > > * Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military complex 1996;
> > > * Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy 1998;
> > > * Dares Salaam, Tanzania US Embassy 1998;
> > > * Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000;
> > > * New York World Trade Center 2001;
> > > * Pentagon 2001.
> > > (Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001 there were 7,581
> > > terrorist attacks worldwide).
> > >
> > > 2 Why were we attacked?
> > > Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms. The attacks
> > > happened during the administrations of Presidents Carter, Reagan,
>Bush
> >
> > > 1, Clinton and Bush 2.. We cannot fault either the Republicans or
> > > Democrats as there were no provocations by any of the presidents or
> > > their immediate predecessors, Presidents Ford or Carter.
> > >
> > > 3. Who were the attackers?
> > > In each case, the attacks on the US were carried out by Muslims.
> > >
> > > 4 What is the Muslim population of the World? 25%.
> > >
> > > 5. Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful?
> > > Hopefully, but that is really not material. There is no doubt that
>the
> >
> > > predominately Christian population of Germany was peaceful, but
>under
> > > the dictatorial leadership of Hitler (who was also "Christian"),
>that
> > > made no difference. You either went along with the administration or
> > > you were eliminated. There were 5 to 6 million Christians killed by
> > > the Nazis for political reasons (including 7,000 Polish priests).
>(see
> >
> > > http://www.nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-a.htm
> > > <http://www.nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-a.htm>
> > >
> > > Thus, almost the same number of Christians were killed by the Nazis,
> > > as the six million holocaust Jews who were killed by them, and we
> > > seldom heard of anything other than the Jewish atrocities. Although
> > > Hitler kept the world focused on the Jews, he had no hesitancy about
> > > killing anyone who got in his way of exterminating the Jews or of
> > > taking over the world - German, Christian or any others.
> > >
> > > Same with the Muslim terrorists. They focus the world on the US, but
> > > kill all in the way -- their own people or the Spanish, French or
> >anyone else.
> > > The point here is that just like the peaceful Germans were of no
> > > protection to anyone from the Nazis, no matter how many peaceful
> > > Muslims there may be, they are no protection for us from the
>terrorist
> >
> > > Muslim leaders and what they are fanatically bent on doing -- by
>their
> >
> > > own pronouncements -- killing all of us "infidels." I don't blame
>the
> > > peaceful Muslims. What would you do if the choice was shut up or
>die?
> > >
> > > 6. So who are we at war with?
> > > There is no way we can honestly respond that it is anyone other than
> > > the Muslim terrorists. Trying to be politically correct and avoid
> > > verbalizing this conclusion can well be fatal. There is no way to
>win
> > > if you don't clearly recognize and articulate who you are fighting.
> > >
> > > So with that background, now to the two major questions:
> > >
> > > 1. Can we lose this war?
> > > 2. What does losing really mean?
> > >
> > > If we are to win, we must clearly answer these two pivotal
>questions.
> > >
> > > We can definitely lose this war, and as anomalous as it may sound,
>the
> >
> > > major reason we can lose is that so many of us simply do not fathom
> > > the answer to the second question - What does losing mean?
> > >
> > > It would appear that a great many of us think that losing the war
> > > means hanging our heads, bringing the troops home and going on about
> > > our business, like post Vietnam. This is as far from the truth as
>one
> > > can get What losing really means is:
> > >
> > > We would no longer be the premier country in the world. The attacks
> > > will not subside, but rather will steadily increase. Remember, they
> > > want us dead, not just quiet. If they had just wanted us quiet, they
> > > would not have produced an increasing series of attacks against us,
> > > over the past 18 years. The plan was clearly, for terrorist to
>attack
> > > us, until we were neutered and submissive to them.
> > > We would of course have no future support from other nations, for
>fear
> >
> > > of reprisals and for the reason that they would see, we are impotent
> > > and cannot help them.
> > >
> > > They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations, one at a time. It
> > > will be increasingly easier for them. They already hold Spain
> > > hostage.. It doesn't matter whether it was right or wrong for Spain
>to
> >
> > > withdraw its troops from Iraq. Spain did it because the Muslim
> > > terrorists bombed their train and told them to withdraw the troops.
> > > Anything else they want Spain to do will be done. Spain is finished.
> > >
> > > The next will probably be France. Our one hope on France is that
>they
> > > might see the light and realize that if we don't win, they are
> > > finished too, in that they can't resist the Muslim terrorists
>without
> > > us. However, it may already be too late for France. France is
>already
> > > 20% Muslim and fading fast!
> > >
> > > If we lose the war, our production, income, exports and way of life
> > > will all vanish as we know it. After losing, who would trade or deal
> > > with us, if they were threatened by the Muslims.
> > >
> > > If we can't stop the Muslims, how could anyone else?
> > >
> > > The Muslims fully know what is riding on this war, and therefore are
> > > completely committed to winning, at any cost. We better know it too
> > > and be likewise committed to winning at any cost.
> > >
> > > Why do I go on at such lengths about the results of losing? Simple.
> > > Until we recognize the costs of losing, we cannot unite and really
>put
> >
> > > 100% of our thoughts and efforts into winning. And it is going to
>take
> >
> > > that 100% effort to win.
> > >
> > > So, how can we lose the war?
> > >
> > > Again, the answer is simple. We can lose the war by "imploding."
>That
> > > is, defeating ourselves by refusing to recognize the enemy and their
> > > purpose, and really digging in and lending full support to the war
> > > effort. If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. If we
> > > continue to be divided, there is no way that we can win!
> > >
> > > Let me give you a few examples of how we simply don't comprehend the
> > > life and death seriousness of this situation.
> > >
> > > President Bush selects Norman Mineta as Secretary of Transportation.
> > > Although all of the terrorist attacks were committed by Muslim men
> > > between
> > > 17 and 40 years of age, Secretary Mineta refuses to allow profiling.
> > > Does that sound like we are taking this thing seriously? This is
>war!
> > > For the duration, we are going to have to give up some of the civil
> > > rights we have become accustomed to.. We had better be prepared to
> > > lose some of our civil rights temporarily or we will most certainly
> >lose all of them permanently.
> > >
> > > And don't worry that it is a slippery slope. We gave up plenty of
> > > civil rights during WWII, and immediately restored them after the
> > > victory and in fact added many more since then.
> > >
> > > Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton before him?
> > >
> > > No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can maintain all of our
> > > Political Correctness, and all of our civil rights during this
> > > conflict and have a clean, lawful, honorable war. None of those
>words
> > > apply to war. Get them out of your head.
> > >
> > > Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war and/or the
> > > Administration that it almost seems they would literally like to see
> > > us lose. I hasten to add that this isn't because they are disloyal.
>It
> >
> > > is because they just don't recognize what losing means.
>Nevertheless,
> > > that conduct gives the impression to the enemy that we are divided
>and
> >weakening.
> > > It concerns our friends, and it does great damage to our cause.
> > >
> > > Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the politicians and
>media
> >
> > > regarding the treatment of some prisoners of war, perhaps
>exemplifies
> > > best what I am saying. We have recently had an issue, involving the
> > > treatment of a few Muslim prisoners of war, by a small group of our
> >military police.
> > > These are the type prisoners who just a few months ago were throwing
> > > their own people off buildings, cutting off their hands, cutting out
> > > their tongues and otherwise murdering their own people just for
> > > disagreeing with Saddam Hussein.
> > >
> > > And just a few years ago these same type prisoners chemically killed
> > > 400,000 of their own people for the same reason. They are also the
> > > same type enemy fighters, who recently were burning Americans, and
> > > dragging their charred corpses through the streets of Iraq.
> > >
> > > And still more recently, the same type enemy that was and is
>providing
> >
> > > videos to all news sources internationally, of the beheading of
> > > American prisoners they held.
> > >
> > > Compare this with some of our press and politicians, who for several
> > > days have thought and talked about nothing else but the
>"humiliating"
> > > of some Muslim prisoners -- not burning them, not dragging their
> > > charred corpses through the streets, not beheading them, but
> >"humiliating" them.
> > >
> > > Can this be for real?
> > >
> > > The politicians and pundits have even talked of impeachment of the
> > > Secretary of Defense. If this doesn't show the complete lack of
> > > comprehension and understanding of the seriousness of the enemy we
>are
> >
> > > fighting, the life and death struggle we are in and the disastrous
> > > results of losing this war, nothing can.
> > >
> > > To bring our country to a virtual political standstill over this
> > > prisoner issue makes us look like Nero playing his fiddle as Rome
> > > burned -- totally oblivious to what is going on in the real world.
> > > Neither we, nor any other country, can survive this internal strife.
> > > Again I say, this does not mean that some of our politicians or
>media
> > > people are disloyal. It simply means that they are absolutely
> > > oblivious to the magnitude, of the situation we are in and into
>which
> > > the Muslim terrorists have been pushing us, for many years
> > >
> > > Remember, the Muslim terrorists stated goal is to kill all infidels!
> > > That translates into ALL non-Muslims -- not just in the United
>States,
> >
> > > but throughout the world.
> > >
> > > We are the last bastion of defense.
> > >
> > > We have been criticized for many years as being 'arrogant..' That
> > > charge is valid in at least one respect. We are arrogant in that we
> > > believe that we are so good, powerful and smart, that we can win the
> > > hearts and minds of all those who attack us, and that with both
>hands
> > > tied behind our back, we can defeat anything bad in the world!
> > >
> > > We can't!
> > >
> > > If we don't recognize this, our nation as we know it will not
>survive,
> >
> > > and no other free country in the world will survive if we are
> >defeated.
> > >
> > > And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout the world that
>allow
> >
> > > freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom
>of
> >
> > > the press, equal rights for anyone -- let alone everyone, equal
>status
> >
> > > or any status for women, or that have been productive in one single
> > > way that contributes to the good of the world.
> > >
> > > This has been a long way of saying that we must be united on this
>war
> > > or we will be equated in the history books to the self-inflicted
>fall
> > > of the Roman Empire. If, that is, the Muslim leaders will allow
> > > history books to be written or read.
> > >
> > > If we don't win this war right now, keep a close eye on how the
> > > Muslims take over France in the next 5 years or less. They will
> > > continue to increase the Muslim population of France and continue to
> > > encroach little by little, on the established French traditions. The
> > > French will be fighting among themselves, over what should or should
> > > not be done, which will continue to weaken them and keep them from
>any
> >
> > > united resolve. Doesn't that sound eerily familiar?
> > >
> > > Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away from them by some
> > > external military force. Instead, they give their freedoms away,
> > > politically correct piece by politically correct piece.
> > >
> > > And they are giving those freedoms away to those who have shown,
> > > worldwide, that they abhor freedom and will not apply it to you or
> > > even to themselves, once they are in power.
> > >
> > > They have universally shown that when they have taken over, they
>then
> > > start brutally killing each other over who will be the few who
>control
> >the masses.
> > > Will we ever stop hearing from the politically correct, about the
> > > "peaceful Muslims"?
> > >
> > > I close on a hopeful note, by repeating what I said above. If we are
> > > united, there is no way that we can lose. I hope now after the
> > > election, the factions in our country will begin to focus on the
> > > critical situation we are in, and will unite to save our country. It
> > > is your future we are talking about! Do whatever you can to preserve
> >it.
> > >
> > > After reading the above, we all must do this not only for ourselves,
> > > but our children, our grandchildren, our country and the world.
> > >
> > > Whether Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal and that
> > > includes the Politicians and media of our country and the free
>world!
OT: When does dogged persistance turn into obsession towards a goal? Or are they one in the same? Perhaps just realizing that fact makes all the difference....
Guys let's keep the OT: on all the political stuff... especially religion. I think it would be fantastic if we could keep religion out of this... religion is about as far out of the stock market as facts and figures are out of the bible. (or the koran or God for dummies or (your reading preference here etc.)
But that's looking unlikely... anyway my question up there is partially related to investing in general.
Hanuman there's 3 sources of funding.
Taxpayers.
The BIRD Program (Binational Industrial Research and Development Foundation)
The FMF Program (Foreign Military Financing)
Arnie. Invest in War Stocks.
I'm 99.9% certain that it wasn't a rumor. In fact I think we've had about a half dozen or so people hear the same rumor. Cialdini said in Influence "if one person tells you you have a green tail you can chalk them up to being crazy, if two people tell you have a green tail you might start wondering, if three people tell you that you have a green tail you should turn around and check and if four or more people tell you that you have a green tail, then you have a green tail."
I just... I don't know what's going to happen. The deal is pending with China... here's a quote from Rueter's on China's second quarter.
"The National Bureau of Statistics' half-year figures are expected to confirm recent leaks in the state-controlled media showing China's gross domestic product — the sum of all goods and services produced — hitting almost 11 per cent growth in the second quarter, accelerating from 10.3 per cent in the first quarter."
China has quite possibly the fastest growing economy in the world. However, the political risk involved in Chinese investments is considerable. China has not made any indication as to where their vested interest lies in the current foreign affairs. North Korea or Japan and Russia? Israel or Iran and Syria? When forced to choose where do you think this growing juggernaut will side with? This isn't going to go away... Israel's response was a clear indication to their goals, to annihilate their enemies. (think about it, cause: terrorists kidnap 3 soldiers effect: Israel destroys the "harboring" sovereign nation's infrastructure, including all means of importing and exporting goods while running air strikes 24/7) I think they're just warming up... see the lockheed and martin deal for an addition 250 F-16's?
All this and more greatly affects our seemingly small and isolated positions in this company.
Spec, oh please. Do not take my words out of context. There was a very big if associated with that (an unverifiable one at that) nmaking it literally impossible for me to act on that.
Lighten up, I'm sure someone has told you they'd off you once or twice in your life, probably got you to change whatever it was you were doing.
Besides I can't drink that pink stuff... maybe I should be taking some Xanax instead.
Nov 8th 2005. 274 shares traded hands. EOM.
No Leaks. No Buys. No Nothing.
No leaks? Yah right. More like no one believes them. I don't know... I guess I'll give Cyto the benefit of the doubt and say perhaps the China deal was leaked but it's written in traditional Chinese and no one can understand it, therefore the price hasn't moved.
No buys. This is what concerns me. 6 point spreads on 30K... 4 point spreads on 20K. It's trading like this that shoots the old Beta coefficient through the roof.
No Nothing. What happened... prices used to RISE on good news. Now we lose money on good news. Example #1 (my personal favorite)
March 30th the PR that prompted the companies current 52 week high is released. (1st Order of synDNA)
March 22nd - 1.13
March 31st - 1.49
In the week leading up to the release of said PR, the share price rose 24%. IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE NEWS WAS RELEASED THE PRICE BEGAN TO FALL. (no leaks? yah right if so, the price would have risen AFTER the news not before it, because THATS when it would have been disseminated) Why it fell afterwards and didn't continue to rise is open to debate.
June 13th a PR is released annoucing not only that the 1st order had "exceeded expecations" in terms of quality and efficacy but that an additional "ADD-ON" order had been placed AND that future GRAM quantity orders were in the works. (this PR is at least 2.5 times as good as the March 30th one)
Let's examine the SP movement leading up to this PR in the same time frame.
June 5th - 0.93
June 14th - 0.91
Not only did the SP not move up going into this PR but after it was released the price actually dropped 2%. Explain that one to me. Is it possible to leaks news and then not to leak news and for the leaked news to move the price up but the non-leaked news moves the price down... If so please leak more news...
Summary:
I'm tired of playing the PR game. Frankly, I've gotten to the point where I couldn't care less about what the latest PR says. The following topics are all I will continue to concern myself with. Additional sales (which can actually be verified on quarterly reports), Tangible Asset Increases (like the construction of a cGMP facility, again verifiable), changes in Management (haha immediately verifiable) and Test Results (although not verifiable... if they lied about these I'd kill them)
wanab, not really but I will.
Look at it this way, we've been at the 1.00 support since May while fluctuating dangerously close to the .80's in June. Make a small rally in the first 5 days of July only to have it knocked back in 2 hours of trading on a volume of roughly 30K yesterday.
We've had relatively excellent news and no share price movement. I can't imagine any more news will have any more of an effect on our positions as the re-supply order did. (negligible)
With people abandoning small caps and biotechs and no forseeable vaccine progress (we're years out)... pfft. No licensing agreements, no factory, no new patents, no revenue (yet), nothing. Yes I'm expecting a nice PR... but good press is never a substitute for sales revenue, intellectual property developments, tangible assets or anything else that the share price should be based on.
THe upside is huge... sure... but what kind of timeline are we looking at here? I don't think we'll see a synDNA vaccine reach market in MS's lifetime... unless we're bought out by a competent and established company who already has vaccines on the market.
Don't Hold Your Breath On This One.
Set it and forget it like the Showtime Rotisserie. This is not a stock to be watched daily... Hell no stock should be watched daily. If you're watching your stocks on a daily basis hoping to time the market you need to seriously re-evaluate your strategy.
In the meantime, I'm branching out personally and getting the hell away from pink sheets. I'll be following an index or two. The Vanguard small cap and value index are most appealing. Also going to start group investing. It's like a no-fee mutual fund that you actually have control over... it's great.
I'd be happy if I came back in 5 years to find CYGX trading at $5 a share. However, my faith in this company has been riddled with doubt... as of yesterday.
synDNA is the best thing since sliced bread as far as I'm concerned. I just doubt this management could deliver a pizza on time let alone a marketable vaccine candidate. New management would prompt me to go on a buying spree...
Maybe I'm way off base here... maybe this is all false doubt. Time will tell... (can't wait for the 10-Q... if there isn't any revenue on it I'm out like a fat girl in dodge ball if/when we get back to $1.50) Sorry for the pessimism, but my eyes have been opened to real ways to make money.
OT P.S. With the market in the doldrums, locking in the 5.5% 1 YR CD rate at your local bank is looking awfully appealing.
P.S.S. Hey Mike! How's the factory coming!?
Coordinated Buying.
Thought. If we coordinated our efforts and all purchased on a day like today... could we in effect thwart the selling of the MM's... I'd like to form a group of investors with the intention of buying and holding this stock. Buying as much as possible and holding for as long as possible... effectively reducing the impact of MM's.
Surely our combined efforts could purchase well over 28K shares... is this type of activity illegal? Collusion of sorts...? I can't imagine it is.
Arnold, I'll tell you next week.
I don't know for sure... if I did I would have millions of dollars and a nice jail cell. All I can tell you is what was told to me, which is probably more or less wild speculation...
However, I got the bird flu right and the livestock right... is China next? That would make me 3 for 3... too small of a sampling to judge my PR predicting abilities in my opinion however...
How many Frost & Sullivan award winners have gone on to file for bankruptcy within 5 years of receiving that award? That would be a stat I'd be interesting in finding.
Surely Frost & Sullivan allies itself (or weasels itself) into promoting the best of the best. As their main function is that of a consulting firm... I'm leary of all consultants... Paying someone to tell me what my problem is seems to be a problem in itself. And if we're relying on consultants at this point and can't get any deliverables or revenue without them... then we're in trouble...
Frost & Sullivan can take their award sit on it and rotate for all I care.
I am glad that synDNA is amazingly obvious obviously amazing to someone though. Even if it's a bunch of consultants... my two cents...
Top Ten Things You'll Never Hear from your Consultant
You're right; we're billing way too much for this.
Bet you I can go a week without saying "synergy" or "value-added".
How about paying us based on the success of the project?
This whole strategy is based on a Harvard business case I read.
Actually, the only difference is that we charge more than they do.
I don't know enough to speak intelligently about that.
Implementation? I only care about writing long reports.
I can't take the credit. It was Ed in your marketing department.
The problem is, you have too much work for too few people.
Everything looks okay to me. You really don't need me.