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Dog, .........reply:
Dog writes: ""As for you Home Depot post, I think it may have interpeted as an "absurd mocking" as opposed to a constructive comparison, but personally, I thought it was okay.""
"absurd mocking" .......Funny man, Dog!
Although we are obviously at odds over NWAU, I DO have 100% respect for you concerning not wanting to see the "censorship thing" operating so badly here on this forum. You get some honesty points for that.
Strangely, I LIKE how you have presented yourself on this forum ....and even while in your mysterious cloud of ambiguity! You represent a "worthy foe" for any NWAU long and I enjoy the challenge.
I have tried my VERY BEST to explain to T5 that he is incorrectly interpreting people's posts and deleting posts that don't even come CLOSE to a TOS violation ....but he doesn't seem to understand?
Looks like neither of us would have deleted my "Home Depot" scenario posts nor any post that lead up to it. I understood your point and you understood my counter ....but now only one side remains thanks to T5's personal opinions. That's what you get in the pathetically sad world of bias and censorship.
You are a worthy opponent. ....I just wish we could do battle on a level playing field.
EPROM
P.S. I read about the many "book burinings" throught history and wonder how they could have ever come to be. NOW I clearly see how! ....I guess one man's Shakespere is another man's TOS violation?
t5lewis writes: ""Focus your debate on what is posted, not who posted it, and it will be a much more valuable exchange for everyone who views this board.""
OKAY!! NOW we are getting somewhere!! Lets take you main statement right here:
""""Focus your debate on what is posted, not who posted it.""[/b
Look, I really don't care "WHO" post data. Never have - Never will! I DON'T CARE about the posters "NAME" at ALL! ...Just like you, I care ONLY about the CONTENT/SUBSTANCE/RELIABILITY of the data that has been posted!
But what if the CONTENT of a person's post is ...AMBIGUOUS?
...........Am I not allowed to illustrate the AMBIGUITY of the posted data?
What if a company-issued "news item", seen by ALL, is spun into ambiguity and done so in an extremely COMPLEX way by a savvy, wordsmith poster?
...........Am I not allowed to show examples of how it is ambiguous in very SIMPLE ways for normal, everyday people who aren't quite as word-savvy?
SUMMARY:
If someone's post is "ambiguous" (regardless of the poster) ....Am I NOT ALLOWED to post a simple, easy-to-understand illustration (i.e., "Home Depot" scenario) of HOW it is seen as "ambiguous"? All that happens by posting the simple illustration is that the AMBIGUITY might be resolved in a future posts. ....It's NOT a stinkin' attack on the Poster!
EPROM
Now THAT's funny!!
chisox pat writes: ""You are assuming that everyone is trying to manipulate the price of the stock. Essentially you are accusing them of a crime.""
So let me get this right ...
(1) I (EPROM) feel that "watchdog111" MUST have a REASON as to WHY he posts his theories about NWAU in this forum ...based on what he has previously typed.
(2) You (chisox pat) assume that "EPROM" MUST feel everyone is trying to manipulate this NWAU stock in one direction or another ...based on what he has previously typed.
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(1) I (EPROM) get an idea of watchdog's "Premise" based on the REASONING behind what he has typed
(2) You (chisox pat) get an idea of EPROM's "Premise" based on the REASONING behind what he has typed.
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(1) I draw a conclusion as to watchdog's MOTIVES based on his PREMISE.
(2) You (chisox pat) draw a conclusion as to EPROM's MOTIVES based on his PREMISE.
...And now you also state that I (EPROM) have violated a basic investorshub rule??? ....yet here you are doing the EXACT SAME THING?????????
This is truly AMAZING!!!
EPROM
P.S. T5 ...NOW do you see where "censorship" gets ya?
Last Post on this issue:
T5,
Here is why people invest. ...THIS is why a stock market exists today:
(Rule #1): People invest/short stocks to "make money". NOBODY does it to "lose money". People do this to (((MAKE MONEY))). ...This is the #1 basic principle of the stock market.
(A) "LONGS" feel a certain company is a "good investment" and they will MAKE MONEY if they simply choose to hold shares and the stock goes "UP" (based on RULE #1). "Longs" WANT the company to do GOOD ...so they can "MAKE MONEY"!
(B) "SHORTS" feel a company is "bad investment" and they will MAKE MONEY if they short the stock and the stock goes "DOWN". Shorts want the company to do BAD ...so they can "MAKE MONEY"!
So if ANYONE comes along and adds their comments, theories, scam plans, allegations about a certain company, but doesn't seem to fit the "make money" criteria found in Rule #1 ...aren't they something that doesn't fit into the world of "investing".
Isn't that WHY we are all here, ...BAD or Good?
And if I am to properly challenge someone's posted data that doesn't fit "Rule #1" ....shouldn't the reasons WHY "Rule #1" isn't being observed be brought into light ....so that we can all properly understand the data?
As a "long" ...I post data to help support my "investment".
As a "short" ...I post data to help support my "short".
...but without Rule #1:
As a "????" ...I post data to help support my "???"
So isn't it "fair" to ask the intentions of anyone who doesn't subscribe to "Rule #1"? It's NOT an "attack" ...it's asking for UNDERSTANDING! It's not the "delivery" in question ...it's the SUBSTANCE BEHIND THE DATA!!
EPROM
greg writes ""Allow me to try to make this clear. Challenge the data, not the delivery of the data.""
You'll need to better explain what you mean?
I NEVER say that someone "writes poorly" or "can't spell" or that they aren't "educated" enough to convey a thought or that they "sense makes no".
...THAT'S challenging the "DELIVERY"
HOWEVER, if someone submits a post that is chocked full of "ambiguities" and I point out the ambiguity of the data found within the post by way of an "equal analogy"...that is NOT "challenging the delivery" - that is challenging the SUBSTANCE of the post.
SUBSTANCE = MERITS
DELIVERY = COMMUNICATION SKILLS
Some of the posts I read here containing the greatest amount of "ambiguity" are written by people with extremely good writing skills.
Their DELIVERY is excellent!
However, the "substance" of their main premise can be flawed.
.....I have every right to point that out when it happens.
EPROM
t5lewis: Okay then:
T5 wrote: ""In essence, a personal attack is attacking a person, rather than a person's ideas. The written word provides wide latitude for the most fervent of debates: efforts to short-cut the debate process by attempting to discredit or disparage a person rather than a person's ideas usually fall into the personal attack category.""
Then by ALL MEANS ....PLEASE EXPLAIN to me how my "Home Depot" analogy posts (that you censored/deleted) fits the above-mentioned criteria?
FYI: OBVIOUSLY I am invested in NWAU because of the information supplied by NWAU management, their strategic business plan, the potential of comapny growth, and the fact that I want to make a lot of money (i.e., "motive")!
THOSE ARE THE MOST BASIC REASONS AS TO (((WHY))) PEOPLE INVEST IN STOCKS!
Now, if some anonymous poster comes along and and tries to say that all of the reasons I am invested in NWAU are WRONG ....and try to show me HOW my reasoning is wrong by using a totally "ambiguous" example (i.e., conspiracy theory expose' delivered out of the kindness of one's heart) to prove their point .....Aren't I equally allowed to to use the EXACT SAME LEVELS of ambiguity to defend my position?
You deleted MY side of the iissue ...but left the other's side.
No "slams"
No "personal attack"
No "Focusing on the person"
....just one-sided CENSORSHIP!
EPROM
P.S. I await your response.
Character Tests (Examples):
The following posts are what are known as "Character Tests". They involve the words and philosophies of the original poster and restates their logic in a way that exposes the ambiguity:
(1) Here I give example of WHY someone doesn't want to believe some anonymous poster's "ambiguous scam theory". Bear in mind that it will be difficult for anyone to understand WHY I even posted my analogy, because some anonymous board mod CHOSE to (((DELETE))) the ORIGINAL POST!:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=7085259
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(2) Here I want to know exactly WHY dog feels the "need" to educate ME regarding NWAU. If he feels the "need" ...I "need" to know WHY he feels the "need"!! I (AND MANY OTHERS) "NEED" TO KNOW the poster's motives in order to properly understand his data:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=7083266
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Here's the BEST EXAMPLE of why T5's "Censorhip Policies" is forcing the manipulation of NWAU ....and are 100% WRONG!
http: =>(Post Deleted)<=
Where are my "Home Depot" analogy posts???
Where did they go?
WHY were they deleted?
I drew out a PERFECT EXAMPLE AND COMPARISON of a poster's already-posted logocal path and data ...but I did it in a different light. It's just like having "two sides of a story".
...Nobody was "personally slammed" and it helped prove that NWAU might not BE a scam (as many posters say they are) by showing the same amount of ambiguity as found in the original poster's post.
...It ALL GOES BACK to NWAU (if you would actually choose to READ the post before deleting it)
...It forces people to supply more CONCRETE DATA regarding NWAU in the future and not just pass off some ambiguous scam theory without supplying concrete data in support of the claim.
NOW MY POSTS ARE GONE - YET THE AMBIGUOUS "SCAM POSTS" REMAIN!!
CHANGE YOUR CENSORSHIP PRACTICES NOW!!!!
EPROM
T5 ..................
T5 writes: ""Note #2: Personal Attack – when someone attacks a person, with name calling, or relating to the messenger and not the message. Posts relating to the messenger and not the message will be removed. That includes 'character tests' or questions about why someone is posting on this board.""
T5 -- you are 100% wrong and you are creating an environment of biased, one-sided information in this public forum based on a publicly traded security.
I have tried to CLEARLY EXPLAIN to you how CHARACTER TESTS are (((NOT))) personal attacks ...but you never seem to get the picture!!!
A "personal attack" is exactly like what you would find in my most recent post regarding Phil (Bullrider). ....CLEARLY that was a personal slam! My "Home Depot" analogy to watchdog111 is NOT a slam ...but shows OTHER PEOPLE the errors found in dog's logic. THAT'S what's called A FRIGGIN' (((D E B A T E))) !!!!
If I take someone's ambiguous statements (that are orchestrated to paint a certain one-sided view) and show OTHER PEOPLE where the ambiguity is based by using their OWN WORDS ...then that is a "Character Test" and is NOT an attack
(((WHY))) can't you seem to understand this VERY SIMPLE STATEMENT?
Since you are 100% set on only allowing the ambiguous data to be posted on this forum and NOT allow anyone to properly challenge the delivery of said data ...ONCE AGIN my shares go up for sale come Monday Morning ...and yet another letter off to NowAuto and the SEC based on your selective censorship performance. Your selective, one-sided censorship practices is helping the manipulation of NWAU.
...and you should know me enough by now to know I'm DEAD SERIOUS about this!
EPROM
RESPONSE TO BOBWINS:
Okay, folks, dog, phill, and all of the other anti-NWAU X-Files "Conspiracy Theory" posters ...THIS POST (by Bobwins) pretty much echoes my feelings on this whole deal:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=7086727
...VERY SIMPLE!
It's not some "Dr. Evil" conspiracy scam or Scott's diabolical master plan of getting himself and his partners in crime off to some tropical island and all on sheepholder monies It's just ONE SIMPLE WAY to get from "point A" to "point B" ...and all in short order!
And if there WERE all these "diabolical scams" (as you say there are) ....then WHY would Scott Miller waste all of his time and money buying something like Navicom GPS? Wouldn't he have a lot more "Scam Power" by spending all of that Navicom money on buying more and more car dealerships? (((CARS))) make NWAU the most money RIGHT NOW! If NWAU was a scam ...why risk/waste all of that "Dealership Buying" power and money on some future "goal" of making money based on some trendy, yet "financially unproven" GPS product?
Why not just spend LESS money trying to look "bigger" with more dealership purchases instead of spending MORE money to look "smarter" with some unproven-revenue GPS product?
.............(((((???WHY???)))))
EPROM
Dog (comment):
Here's an example of why nobody believes you:
I used to be deeply invested in PMRY (Pomeroy IT Solutions Inc). I personally knew the CEO (Dave Pomeroy) back when he managed the now-defunct "Computerland" chain in the Cincinnati area (thusly destroying those "NWAU insider" theories).
There were COUNTLESS posters that Jones'd up the YaHoo PMRY forum with ALL KINDS of nasty accusations regarding the CEO, Dave Pomeroy. They were VERY MUCH like the many posts that you type here about Scott Miller EVERY DAY!
They were very well worded (just like yours), sounded all "official" n' shi~ (just like yours) and were designed to raise all kinds of doubts and fears about the CEO (Just like yours are designed about Scott Miller).
Only problem was that I personally KNEW the CEO. True, he WAS kind of a dick and had a Hitleresque management style ...but the guy ALSO knew how to raise money!! Based on that fact, I bought my shares at $9 and got a nice $40K run on his stock all the way up to $14. I got it when PMRY got knocked down to $9 merely on rumors and conspiracy theories .....by people JUST LIKE YOU!
....Some were merely "fired employees" trying to get a little revenge.
....Some were "shorts".
....Some simply didn't personally LIKE the guy!
....but NONE OF THESE PEOPLE were correct about what they were typing. I KNEW THIS, so I made money as a result. I'm no "stock guru" by ANY stretch, I just happen to really KNOW the man in charge and KNEW what was being said about him was WRONG.
((((((THAT)))))) ....is why you can't just waltz on in here on the NWAU forms and start posting your "conspiracy theories" and expect people to take them as Gospel and sell their stock.
Plain & Simple!
EPROM
As much as I LOVE to point out the shortcomings found in the many anti-NWAU poster's logic ...My "life" is worth WAY too much more!
You NWAU bashers can just stay and post yoursleves all day long.
...I'm done with my laundry and I'm gonna go out now and live LIFE!
EPROM
Phill writes: ""I just TOSed that post because it was off topic and had absolutely nothing to do with discussing the company.""
Well Phill ...let's see what happens? Your followup has nothing to do with NWAU. It has to do with TOSing posts. So we'll see which one remains.
MY post brings into question as to WHY someone would spend their valuable time posting negative prose about my NWAU investment if they are NOT a NWAU investor nor seem to have any financial gain in doing so. That makes it 100% ON TOPIC as NWAU is the focus of the analogy.
Since ALL of the negative information that has been posted about NWAU is ambiguous at best ...MY post allows any potential investor a more "familiar" perspective on any negative information that is posted about NWAU and the possible motives of the anti-NWAU posters behind these posts.
It's a LOT more "erebral" han the anti's constant "You must be an insider!" posts (Which ALWAYS remain uncensored).
I NEVER personally attack an individual and I'm ALWAYS "On Topic" ........yet my posts STILL disappear!
If there is a "scam" regarding this ...it WILL come out - I ASSURE YOU!
EPROM
Smith111 writes: ""Who cares if they censor a message board, it doesn't matter.""
Answer this question HONESTLY and you will know why I am selling:
If only the LIBERAL VIEWS were broadcast on the various medias, ....would George W. Bush be president right now regardless of what the "facts" might be?
EPROM
Watchdog writes: ""Hey EPROM, don't you own stock in Home Depot????""
Nope, I'm just like you!
I'm just a "kind and generous" person ...again ...just like you!
I don't like Home Depot management and think their housewear items are WAY overpriced - to the point of being a scam. I, like you, am going to spend my summer's days in the Home Depot hosewears ilse PROTECTING any would-be buyers from wasting their money on these overpriced items.
(1) ((( YOU ))) save poor NWAU investors from wasting their money on this overpriced NWAU stock - and all out of the kindenss of your heart
(2) ((( I ))) save poor Home Depot shoppers from wasting their money on overpriced housewears items - and all out of the kindness of my heart.
See? ....we aren't that different after all!
EPROM
P.S. Want to see a REAL "scam"? Watch MY post get deleted and YOUR post remain? ....Just TOS mine and watch it happen?
Smith111 Writes: ""BTW, why would you threaten to sell shares like that? I thought you were really an investor? How can you be swayed by something a person on a message board writes? Your shares are for you to do what you want, but I just can't figure that out.""
Smithy111, you are not correct as to WHY I am reluctantly selling my NWAU shares. I have previously stated VERY CLEARLY as to WHY I am selling my shares.
WHat these bozos write has NOTHING AT ALL to do with me or my NWAU sells. But when I start seeing pro NWAU people's "character testing" posts being censored and deleted and these anti-NWAU bozo post remain unscathed ....it is the ONLY REAL THING I HAVE SEEN SO FAR that can possibly make NWAU look like a bad investment.
Whevever some "anonymous individuals" show favoratism or bias in their "censorship policies" regarding the data posted in this public forum, ....then all bets are off!! What that says is REGARDLESS of whether or not NWAU is good or NOT good ....the information that the public will be seeing on NWAU has been "filtered and screened" in favor of one particular view.
Since the PUBLIC is the ones buying this stock ...and the PUBLIC is having the information screened via bias/pre-prigrammed methods ...only a FOOL would stay invested!!!
Clearly, I LIKE NWAU!! ....but if the only data that is allowed to stay in the public eye is the NEGATIVE DATA ...it no longer means anything if the company is really good or not.
...Clearly you never rad my previous posts
EPROM
P.S. Quit telling others to not respond when all you do is constantly respond.
gregs writes: Better yet, WHY do you expend so many posts questioning other posters' motives instead to using the posts to refute the points they make? Because you cannot?
Perhaps if these anti-NWAU strangers stated (((WHY))) they are here instead of dancing past my question ...I just might TRUST them a little more?
TO THIS VERY DAY ....((((NONE))) of you have answered?????
EPROM
P.S. Can't stay long ....gotta run down to Home Depot and save those poor housewears shoppers!!!!!!
watchdog11 writes: ""This company is dumping all over its shareholders (except the true insiders) and we are educating you as to how, why and when.""
(((WHY))) are you taking so much time "educating" us all about the evil found within NWAU? You keep writing about how we never answer YOUR questions ....NONE OF YOU ever seem to want to answer this very EASY question:
If you have NO STAKE in NWAU and you DON'T LIKE NWAU as an investment ...the WHY are you spending SO MUCH TIME here trying to help us NWAU investors?
(((((((((((((((( W H Y ! ))))))))))))))))
EPROM
Fats:
I have made my reasons very clear as to "why" I have been forced to sell. If I'm an "insider" lying and trying to manipulate the stock ...then I should DEFINITELY go to jail. If my reasons are legitimate ...then whatever will be will be regarding the control of the data flow in this forum
As for your other comments, read my previous posts regarding the manipulation ability found in selective censorship:
(1) http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=7068950
(2) http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=7070103
This one is also very easily verified:
(3) http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=7070298
(4) http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=7070628
EPROM
""Sell if you wish, but stop threatening to do so and wasting everyone's time here.""
No "threat", buddy ...my first 50K shares are already up there. Believe me, I don't want to sell them ...but I have no choice but to sell. If NWAU is this easily manipulated by way of selective screening of public data on this forum, ....then I'd be a FOOL to hang on an watch it all happen right before my very eyes.
EPROM
P.S. The first "slam posted" at me was censored and deleted (although I was not bothered at ALL by it). ...I SINCERELY HOPE that your slam on me is NOT censored/deleted!
(Q): NWAU Related ....or not?
Here's a board policy question for this forum (and NWAU in general):
I have the first of several 50K blocks of NWAU up for sale because of something that I feel could be an extremely important factor in the manipulation ability of NWAU shares (my investment). I think other investors would want to know WHY I would choose to sell if I personally DO LIKE the company I'm invested in. ....Isn't that a fair statement?
I can sense that soon my previous posts will be censored and deleted based on T5's "board policy" regarding censorship. Since there is an "Option" to delete my previous post based on the current investorshub censorship policy ....T5 can also justify his actions in doiung so.
Soooooooo...
""Should posts like mine BE "deleted" ...or "discussed" ...as they ARE affecting NWAU today and what is happening on this forum has shaped my personal view of NowAuto's trading ability (i.e., anonymous manipulation)? I, and others feel that the censorship of data is a VERY IMPORTANT FACTOR regarding our investments.""
So again, ...
.....Censor and Hide?
.....Do NOT Censor, and Discuss?
Food for thought,
EPROM
T5,
I TRUST the NWAU management team ...but right now there is a great deal of ambiguity regarding a very complex restructuring. MANY POSTERS are using this forum as a bully pulpit to further their antiNWAU agenda.
NO OTHER STOCK FORUMS have the data flow regarding NWAU as this particular forum does. Once again, I submit this to you in the same professional manner that you have replied to me:
""If manipulative "conspiracy theory" posts are allowed to remain on this forum and posts that challenge the credibility of the anonymous poster submitting the "conspiracy theory" are deleted ...you have BIAS and CENSORSHIP on this public forum and the investment is subject to manipulation as a result ....REGARDLESS of the validity/solidarity of the investment (as in NWAU).""
You KNOW what I just wrote is true. Your censorship policies have directly affected the greatest amount of any NWAU data available right now being seen in the public eye.
My advice to you is to only delete a posts as to where someone's personal data has been published or where threats of bodily harm are involved. Your public forum censorship policy as it stands right now is having a direct affect on the investment in question as I IN NOW WAY would be selling my shares otherwise.
If this selective censorship policy is immediately changed will cancel my sales.
EPROM
Here it goes: (First Level Sale)
You think I'm just BS'ing about selling my shares because of the strange manipulation and censorship policy going on in this NWAU forum?
This is what happens when selective CENSORSHIP enters the arena. ....Check you clocks, folks. It's 10:08 EST. ....Watch for the first 50K block to come up for sale.
FOR THE RECORD -- (10:08 AM July, 22 2005):
I openly state in this forum that the ONLY REASON I AM SELLING MY NWAU SHARES is because of the selective screening of data on this PUBLIC INFORMATION forum. Let the SEC, investorshub and NowAuto sort out the rest as to whether we have a problem here.
EPROM
T5, ......................
I don't know who you are or what your connection is to this forum ...but your censorship policy is directly affecting NWAU's performance today. I am selling now my shares today SOLELY on the bias found in your censorship policies. I would be a FOLL to stay invested with an anonymous individual controlling the data flow on a public forum.
Please review my previous posts as to why my NWAU sales are happening right now.
I would LOVE to stay long in my NWAU investment. I LIKE NWAU!! ....but your selective screening of data has proven to be one-sided in favor or the people who wish to see NowAuto fail. There are no "facts" in these "conspiracy theories" so the only way they can be battled is by way of determining one's character. You are deleting the posts that question a poster's "conspiracy theory" motives yet allowing the "conspiracy theory" posts to remain.
It's not a "personal attack". It's TESTING ONE'S MOTIVES!! Deleting one and not the other is CENSORSHIP!
I am currently selling my NWAU shares as I type this post based on the anonymous filtering, censoring and controlling of the NWAU data flow on this forum. Your censorship policies have are directly affecting NWAU today.
Sincerely,
EPROM
Stock Peeker writes: "Personally, I think you're a bit long-winded, and your implication that NWAU mgt should consider legal action is way too naive to be taken seriously.""
Stock peeker,
Do you feel what you posted to me is of a "personal nature", also condescending in calling me "Naive" and "Long-winded" ....and totally Unrelated to NWAU?
(1) Should your post be deleted as a result?
(2) What if MY previous 4 posts are deleted and YOUR nasty little followup post remains?
(3) Should other NWAU investors not be able understand what is going on here and why I have chosen to sell as a result?
FACT:
It's up to the "anonymous individuals" who monitor the data flow here on this forum, as to whether or not your post will be deleted as a result, and what data will be allowed to remain.
As for me, ...I personally don't care WHAT you say about me. I would NEVER CENSOR your post!! All I know is if I typed in something that was maybe even 50% less questionable than what YOU'VE just typed ....MY post will be deleted. And NOTHING I have EVER posted here has come even CLOSE to matching the word length of maddog's many "Conspiracy Theory" posts.
.....Is he ALSO a long-winded poster and should HIS posts be deleted?
EPROM
P.S. Poke fun at my sale if you must ...but it's GOING TO HAPPEN! Censorship has affected NWAU today and it will again tomorrw. ....and I GUARANTEE YOU people at NowAuto will want to know WHY!
Churak writes: ""Let me see if I understand this. You are allegedly a very large shareholder of NWAU. You are going to liquidate your very large investment because a post of yours got deleted on a message board. Is this correct?""
...That is 100% CORRECT, churak!
I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS LEVEL OF CENSORSHIP ON ANY OTHER STCOK FORUM .....EVER!!! ....THIS IS (((BAD)))!
Unless the censorship stops immediately (and is openly stated as such on this forum) ...then their is documentable "individual bias" in the information flow that IS allowed to remain.
I CAN ONLY INVEST IN A COMPANY WHERE (((ALL))) PUBLIC FORUM DATA IS AVAILABLE AND THE INDIVIDUAL IS FREE TO DECIDE WHAT IS RELEVANT AND WHAT IS NOT RELEVANT.
Anyone who would invest their money in a company where the data flow on public forums is controlled, screened and censored by ANONYMOUS INDIVIDUALS is just ASKING to be ripped off!!
SUMMARY:
I've read the many "conspiracy theories" posted here concerning NWAU. They MAY or MAY NOT be valid ...but it is the truth that NOBODY REALLY KNOWS if it IS or IS NOT true. These "conspiracy theory" posts are ALWAYS allowed to remain REGARDLESS of their merits ....but
....BUT!!
Any "character challenging" questrin posts are deleted. Should I try to trap someone in their own words and prove that they have a hidden agenda and shed a LITTLE LIGHT on WHY they have posted this "conspiracy theory" MY post is filtered, screened and subsequently deleted.
For anyone to stay involved in this investment is sayin "I don't care that only bad information about my investment is allowed to be seein in public".
That's tantamount to investing in Al Jazeera
EPROM
Churak writes: ""the topic of this board is NWAU...anything else is to be taken to this board...http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=37""
Well, Churak,
at least ONE VERY LARGE SHAREHOLDER of NowAuto (NWAU) will be selling his NWAU stock today as a result of bias screening of public data on this forum.
...Would you agree that this sale of NWAUis considered .........."On Topic"?
You see? ...There are individuals here who would be deleting my post based on a view (like your individual view posted above) of what is relevent or not relevent regarding NWAU.
My sale today will be 100% RELAVENT! ...yet maybe you or someone else thinks it isn't ....and thusly deletes the data?
Don't you think the other NWAU shareholders have the right to know WHY an investor sold his NWAU investment instead of merely seeing those two very infamous words ......"Post Deleted"?
EPROM
Hey Phil Bullrider ...................
Phil writes: ""I've been TOSing every post of EPROM's where he is off topic by discussing other posters instead of the company. ...I suggest others do the same.""
Tell you what, ...why don't you post a link to ANY post where I violated an investorshub.com TOS? ...Hell, I'll even personally report "myself" if I have!!
Besides, from what I've seen on THIS particular NWAU forum, ....the only way someone could EVER be deemed as "Off Topic" is if they've posted something that ISN'T trashing, slandering, or 100% focused on raw, bitter hatred of NowAuto.
EPROM
P.S. Man! ...you guys sure really DO want NowAuto to fail, don't ya? I have NEVER SEEN such bitterness and hatred for such a small, but growing company. You hate NowAuto so much you even hate the people who invest in it ....and even try to get THEM banned!
Maddog,
I'm game ..............
I'm rather tired of the constant negative spam, too. It's always the same negative spooge over and over and over and over again.
I'm done posting for the day. ...Hell, I'm confident in my NWAU investment and stock forms don't really matter anyway.
EPROM
Fats:
Let's just put it this way. If ((("I"))) can EASILY see what you are doing .......so can EVERYONE ELSE!!
You'd serve your strange little "Anti-NWAU Agenda" much, much better by NOT seeming so obsessive in you constant bashing and spamming of the NWAU forum. We KNOW now that you hate NWAU.
You spam so often that it takes away from your desired "negative effect" and makes you look more desperate than anything else.
EPROM
P.S. Look, guy ...We've all seen and done the "stock forum" thing before. --- but MAN ...GIVE IT A REST, will ya???!!!
FATS,
Keep working it, fella!!!! ....WORK that stinkin' NWAU forum, lil' buddy!!!
Make sure to put as MUCH DISTANCE AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE between the top of the post list and any "normal people" NWAU investor posts.
Hell, Why don't you just double-up your first FIVE anti-NWAU "spam posts" up to maybe TEN spam posts....or even an eyeball-popping FIFTEEN spam posts? ....Watchdog can then chime in with maybe ten more anti-NWAU spam posts for a whopping TWENTY FIVE SPAM POSTS IN A ROW!!!
EPROM
cmk2735 writes: ""So to answer your last question, I'm betting my money on Scott doing everything he can to make us all a lot of money(and in the meantime make himself a lot of money). Remember, this isn't GE, WMT or MSFT. This is a pinksheet company, these companies are on the pinksheets for a reason. But of all the pinksheet stocks I've looked at(which is A LOT) this is only the second I've ever invested in.""
...That pretty much echoes my way of thinking. No NWAU investor really "LOVES" NowAuto, Navicom or their NWAU investment. We're just as greedy as the NWAU management. We ALL want to make a lot of money ...and we ALL want to do it LEGALLY.
There are TONS of investment opportunities out there, and NWAU is like many others trying to carve their own special niche in the market ....and ALSO make a lot of money along the way.
What the NWAU bashers can't seem to understand is that the NWAU business model is just to damned (((SMART))) for them to to reduce themselves to a being a mere "scam" and risk imprisonment. The NWAU business model MAKES TOO MUCH SENSE for them to be reduced to a scam!!!
The number one question the NWAU-bashers can't seem to answer is (((WHY))) would someone risk going to jail in an attempt to make money when their strategic BUSINESS MODEL can do it for THEM and EVERYONE ELSE ...and it can all be done in a perfectly SMART and LEGAL WAY??
....WHY WASTE A GREAT BUSINESS PLAN ON A SCAM???
EPROM
watchdog writes: ""I have posted the true explanation of the new deal 4 or 5 times...""
Yes we all (((KNOW))) that you keep posting and posting and posting the exact same stuff over and over and over and over and over again ....like a kid who keeps crying for a stinkin' cookie!!!!
We have the choice of either accepting some anonymous poster's "personal agenda" NWAU-hating synopsis of a complex major restructuring deal based on very limited public information and your hidden agenda ....or trusting a well-established business with a solid business platform which the business model (and complimentary Navicom products) make perfectly good sense in their combination, ....and also a CEO who seems to be getting the job done in a very short timeframe.
Trust anonymous poster with secret anti-NWAU agenda?
Trust established business with a "common sense" business model?
...I think the answer is fairly clear!
Besides, lil' guy ....we're all STILL trying to figure out your strange, cosmic, X-Filesesque theory about how "the NWAU investors are being scammed, but not really being scammed". that you posted earlier.
....THAT one was a REAL head-scratcher!!!
EPROM
P.S. Maybe you can try re-explaining your "scammed-but-not-really-scammed" theory again instead of re-posting all of that OTHER stuff?
cmk2735 writes: ""I am more then happy to meet you at the Scottsdale lot anytime you want, we can count the cars together if you want.""
Hey look! a "NORMAL" person has shown up right in the midst of all of these strange, crybaby NWAU bashers.
cmk2735, I really don't know what the deal is with the few NWAU bashers that jones around on this forum. Hell, they spent their entire night here trashing NWAU ...and they do it every stinkin' night!!! They wait for all of the "normal" people to go home and live "life" (like normal people do) ....and then these bashers try to spam up the forum with mindless anti-NWAU spooge.
You've really gotta wonder WHY someone would dedicate so much of their valuable lifetime trying to trash other prople's investments? ....To each his own, I guess?
EPROM
Gotta love it! .............
mmfats writes: It's almost like they are completely ignoring the car business.
While all the "normal people" who are investing in NWAU are home happy and satisfied with the performance of their investment today ...all ya find here now is the "leftover laggarts" who either missed getting in or have some mysterious personal grudge against NWAU.
Here we have good ol' mmfats trying to convince everyone that a "car sales company" is ignoring their own "car sales company".
Yep, SURE they are, mmfats!
NOBODY is working today ....right?????
I'm SURE that all of the sales reps at NowAuto played hooky today, goofed off and went to watch the "Fantastic Four" matinee and no cars are being sold. ...Hell, maybe even the sales managers went with'em, eh? ==> LOL!!!
You boys are taking the word "desperation" to an all-new level!!
EPROM
P.S. You boys just keep right on crying ....I'm gonna got eat a chicken pot pie and see how much I've gained with NWAU today.
Dog,
I'm ....I'm ...I-I--I'm very sorry to have hurt your feelings.
....Group hug?
EPROM
watchdog11 writes: ""My sources tell me that ....yadda yadda""
Hmmmmmmm?
Trust some anonymous poster named watchdog11's and his unnamed sources to be 100% accurate when nobody even knows who he is, where he gets his data ....or why he is even here in the first place?
Trust the predictions made by the clearly defined and well known CEO of a growing, established company that so far has done everything they have planned on doing and is stated as such in posted news items?
....Trust anonymous poster?
....Trust established company?
WOW! .....This is a TOUGH ONE!!!!
EPROM
'JalapenoBuck' writes: ""You sure like to twist things...how about addressing the "great track record" statements you made, like I was.....""
Sure! ....No problem!! ..........Here ya go:
(1) http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050504/phw025.html?.v=11
(2) http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050513/phf007.html?.v=11
(3) http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050620/phm019.html?.v=14
(4) http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050621/cltu502.html?.v=1
(5) http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050622/phw017.html?.v=19
(6) http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050628/phtu019.html?.v=15
NOTE: NONE of these news items include the purchases of other car sales companies, the addition of the Navicom business model ...or even the recent merger. These just represents the amount of progress gained in a VERY SHORT period of time .....by a sub-$2 "pink sheet" company ....that will NO LONGER be a pink sheet company.
Now, ....SPIN AWAY!!! ...I'm sure that you will try.
EPROM
JalapenoBuck writes ""you insiders like to pump each other up.....you best re-read that release and do some checking. Where is the filing, what about all the other concerns? pot lots, gps that nobody wants..yada yada yada""
I like how saying stuff like "I'll wait for the numbers before passing any judgments" and "so far so good" is interpreted as being an "insiders trying to pump each other up."
Hmmmmmm? ...you can almost "smell" the anti-NWAU people's sweating!
EPROM
Smith111 writes: ""...but I need to see a release of the numbers before I start to compute. For now, I'll just have to take what he dishes..."" -- 7/20/2005 10:51:57 AM
EPROM writes: ""I'll wait for the numbers to show later on in the year before I start making any judgments."" -- 7/20/2005 10:52:13 AM
See, ...We're not so far off in out thinking, eh? Chances are good that many others are looking at this in similar fashion.
EPROM
I'm satisfied with the statements (and re-statements) in the recent release. If this is what NowAuto plans on doing and they are openly stating that it will happen as stated, ...then I'm fine with that. It's their business and the seem to know what they are doing.
If Scott Miller feels it is better to pay a little more now for to reap better gains later, then that's his particular management style and HIS business plan. He has a great track record so far and everything else has panned out ....so I will continue to support his plan and hold my shares.
The only thing now that is to the contrary is the few "Conspiracy Theory" pushers trying to convince everyone that the whole thing is just a scam. ....and hell, you can find that on any given stock forum no matter WHAT the company is!
I'll wait for the numbers to show later on in the year before I start making any judgments.
EPROM