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If we see .0197, then it’ll appear Walt had some proper DD insight all along.
What i don’t understand is if Canbiola.com has the inflated prices for doctors to just view and/or its not meant to be seen by Pure Leaf or the average consumer, then why make it available to purchase on Canbiola.com?
Thanks for the clarification. Makes sense! Starter position looks fantastic here.
Who said he went to HBS? Link?
http://www.nutritionaloutlook.com/regulatory/new-fda-statement-cbd-fda-commits-science-based-policy-cbd-takes-no-clear-position-regulatory
FDA is no where near making a decision on any CBD. Interesting read nonetheless.
Nice find on that article. Very interesting.
What news? Lol. I think we’ve already seeing the news.
In my opinion low volume means no buyers either. Because not a lot of consumers know about Canbiola products. Plus those here that have averaged down might be afraid to sell now because they’ve already lost a lot of money and are simply waiting for action and follow through on all the PR’s to at least make their investments back with a little kick for all the waiting on price progress. All all the parabolic move assumptions.
Dr. Johnny Mack is now promoted to President. Haven’t heard much about what he did as his previous position at CANB besides being told what a great addition he was to the team because of what he’s accomplished as a Doctor of Philosophy, his connection with Martin Luther King and that he’s an accountant. But with a well salaried role at CANB as President, he’s doing pretty well financially with his new position. ... along with ALL his other personal and business ventures that he’s involved in and head of that aren’t CANB. He’s a busy man.
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Perfectly poised questions and concerns. Thank you.
And hey, I’m solely giving my opinions on CANB as a CBD consumer who doesn’t need a script to obtain CBD whether it’s isolate or full spectrum. No one today NEEDS a doctor to get through any isolate needs or wants.
Bottom line though every one here can keep averaging down. Average down until it’s .018 a share and show off your millions of shares owned. It means nothing unless CANB gets noticed on the street or if the the ONLY way to get isolate was through a doctor script which will never be the case. If the only way I can get isolate for my medical concerns was through a doctor, then yeah CANB would have first hold and history on the market. But this is not and will not be the case.
I just don’t see where FDA clearing isolate use is a huge excitement for CANB. Mega sales would be huge. Seeing Canbiola products on a shelf in Kroger would be huge. Seeing Canbiola at a big public event or being endorsed by a celebrity/public figure that isn’t investment related would be huge.
Having Dr. G declare Canbiola Brand is something patients should look into for their isolate needs would be huge....
If CBD oil is publicly sold on Canbiola.com and the average Joe can buy it from there without a medical license or prescription, its not just medical. It’s ALSO a consumer retail site just more expensive for the same product.
Average Consumers who buy isolate aren’t thinking about where the cbd came from. If it’s actually on a shelf with another cbd product, it comes down to lab tests, marketing and pricing. And the difference here is lack of marketing to consumers and irregular pricing depending where you get Canbiolas products- if the actual consumer can GET to or know where to find Canbiolas products.
Is the claim to fame Today that CANB can will be the only US traded stock who sells Isolate come the FDA stamp in October? Wouldn’t you think that shell companies are being scooped up right now or current CBD companies are setting up their isolates for the fda approval?
Or is it the PR’s promoting an investment conferences every four months? (which is basically just trying to get noticed to sell their stock.)
It’s clearly not the vending machines that will be CANB’s claim to fame for sure. If they actually get those off the ground.
Maybe they are the only US traded co. right NOW, but considering anyone can get isolate just about anywhere today I’m thinking there will be new cbd isolate companies born in a flash to compete in the stock market for those who wish to invest.
Like the Cannabis energy drink boom years ago.
Say a hypothetical company like “Green Bull” energy drink, for example, is the only energy drink that has been approved by FDA because it contains isolate. You can get it at the donut shop for $4 a can or at the store. Or you can get it for $6 a can on Green Bulls consumer site but under a totally different company name. Or for $12 a can you can also get it on Green Bulls Home site, which is also the Company name at GreenBull.com. (But don’t buy from there because that’s just for doctors to prescribe from) but you CAN buy it there and pay more whether you realize it or not it’s available for half the price elsewhere. You just have to find the best deal.
Huh?
And while the average consumer or patient finds isolate on line or at Kroger from tons of other companies that are already on the shelves, CANB is still trying to sell their shares to investors all while making excuses for the decline is shareprice over the past year.
So glad I’m out of this now for me. But I sincerely hope that a lot of you prove me wrong for your wallets sake.
Good luck to you all.
Last thing I’ll share or ponder (if anyone has knowledge)...I went to vivo website and did a search for CBD. Came back with one article.
Here an attending physician at Northwell mentions that CBD is a good suggestion to help sleep sufferers. The article is mostly about supplements and how they can benefit patients. Not a lot of talk about CBD in particular tho.
My questions and thoughts:
Is the idea here that once the FDA approves isolate, CANB then hopes to finalize a partnership with Vivo pharmacies to stock Canbiola products? The reason I ask is this: I assume that Isolate will be even more readily available just about everywhere with a FDA approval. I mean it’s so readily available right now before the FDA stamp. So wouldn’t a physician just SUGGEST to their patient to use a CBD isolate as a natural supplement? That would be like them prescribing Vitamin C, D or Magnesium wouldn’t it?
My own doctor told me my Vitamin D levels were poor last blood test and told me to “go to CVS” and buy high concentration Vitamin D or he would give me high concentration gel caps from their pharmacy. I asked if it mattered where I got them and he said no. I could get them there on the spot for convenience purposes but as long as I promised to start taking it he didn’t care.
The only main difference he said was his gel caps were once a week and CVS would be once daily.
Wouldn’t that kinda be the same once Isolate gets approved?
How would Canbiola benefit unless the Doctor specifically said “ you can buy some Canbiola brand Isolate here or you can go to CVS or online too. It’s just a matter of convenience”.
https://www.vivohealthpharmacy.com/about/natural-medicines/whats-the-deal-with-functional-medicine
I’m a researcher - learning my own lessons on these Penny stocks. I’ve not a lot of experience trading period hence why I initially decided to invest in a cbd company that I could afford. And at 6 cents when I bought in, there was a lot of great PRs and News and hopeful plans slated. But after a couple cent drops to 4 cents I started becoming worried but knew if I sold there I could jump back if I actually could get answers or follow ups to those great PRs. Or at least even see a bump back up toward the 6’s.
The rest is history and I’m now more interested in researching what I can when I can to learn about the OTC and how some companies may say certain things or manipulate numbers just to get attention on their stock. I’d hate to believe that CANB is one of them because on one hand, I’m learning there are some well respected traders on here who have invested the type of $$ I can only dream about. And sometimes I want to believe that the heavy investors know what they’re talking about as they said they’ve done their own DD.
But when I look at the blatant Different pricing for the same product depending on which site you purchase it from.... doesn’t make sense. Especially when CANB claims Pure leaf as their own so openly.
And the cbd for pets being a higher concentration than the cbd for humans and less expensive makes me scratch my head a bit. ...
Noticed that the 500mg 1oz Hemp “Tasty Drops” (for pets) is sold on Pure Leaf at $39.99.
And the 500mg 1oz Hemp “Nano Drops” (for adults) sold on Canbiola is at $69.99.
Both lab results for these products are seen on Canbiola. Both very similar percentage of CBD concentration. But am I reading this right? Pure Leafs 500mg Pet “Tasty drops” contain slightly more cbd AND less Expensive than Canbiolas 500mg “Nano Drops” for humans?
https://canbiola.com/content/labs/42371_CANB_Nano_Pure_Ultra_Drops_30ml_500mg.pdf
https://canbiola.com/content/labs/42376_CANB_Nano_Drops_for_Pets_30ml_500mg.pdf
The only thing I’m seeing that differentiates Pet Tasty drops from Human Nano drops are the label design. Lab tests for all Oils are on Canbiola website.
Seems the advertised for Pets only products on Pure Leaf has slightly more cbd concentration and its half the price as same product (but under Nano drops) on Canbiolas site. It appears to be literally the same ingredients. Just cheaper on Pure leaf.
Am I missing something? Just trying to figure this out. .....
Thanks for this post. My concerns are in there as well. Thank you again because a shareholder, you are entitled to get some sort of answers.
All I can surmise is that when CANB declared they would have hospital partnerships, they might have been talking solely about the vending machine placement. Because currently Doctors can’t prescribe CBD. That can only offer opinions on whether or not “trying it” would benefit their particular ailment in addition to what big pharma supplies them with.
Yes I only started talking about Penny’s argument when you chimed in. I shouldn’t have as I really don’t have a stance on either. I enjoy CBD being available publicly, period. I can admit not I can not provide you with exactly what you demand because there is no definitive agreement to which is better between isolate and full spectrum. It’s all opinions at this point really because it’s just NOW being utilized by consumers for medical needs. With or without a script.
The reason I posted the Northwell doctor article was because I was looking for an actual link to this Northwell Agreement states back in June. Every couple of weeks I google “ Northwell and Canbiola”. That was the only thing I could find linking just CBD to Northwell. Nothing with CANB.
So if you read my threads I have been consistently asking for proof of this agreement (which would be huge). Remember I bought in when price was at 6 cents based off of what I read here prior to investing. But when I was noticing that a few of the PR’s weren’t following up with their initial news, I became concerned about what I’m putting my investment in. So I sol at .043 giving me plenty of time to rent invest if it goes parabolic as some suggest here.
Also wondering why CANB stated there was high demand for vending machines from “many of their 30-60 medical office partners” when I didn’t know CANB had such partners.
So instead of pointing out what I’m not giving you as proof for your argument with Penny, I’m retracing and focusing on my own concerns as an investor. Because I was really excited when I saw mention of Northwell Agreement. Then I never saw anything about that again.
Thank you for your viewpoints and I will no longer debate the benefits of isolate vs full spectrum. I have no experience with isolate / just full spectrum. I am a Full spectrum consumer.
Good luck to you Slider.
Ok instead of trying to answer your questions or support your isolate argument (because I really don’t care - I’m thrilled companies are stocking ANY CBD today) you want to argue or piss on Penny for that I guess.
I’m really looking to answer my questions. Which is basically asking where I can find progress on past PR’s. Apparently you can’t even answer mine so you misdirect to promoting CANB isolate. That’s fine and That’s what this board is for but it’s certainly not to bully others because I’m not a die hard fan of everything CANB says.
Slider- show me the Northwell agreement if you know where to point me to.
And please help me find the list of doctors offices that CANB is in.
Thanks a bunch Mr Silder!
https://www.livescience.com/65530-cbd-heroin-addiction.html
Forgive my double link earlier. The quote from the Northwell Hospital Doctor is toward the end of article under the sub heading “Further Research”
Again I just provided what you asked for as I am not even concerned about FDA. I’m a CBD advocate period. But I prefer the terrines. Personal preference. But you asked me to provide a non sponsor article.
Anyway- can YOU find me proof that vending machines are being made and how they will benefit doctors offices? Also any link confirming Northwell has an agreement with CANB would be most excellent DD that I can not find. And while you’re at it, if you have a list you can find of the 30-60 doctors offices that prescribe CANB. Even the ones who use the tens?
Thanks in advance!
Here’s a article about an approved FDA CBD drug named Epilodex which is made with CBD from the plant. Not synthetic. Show me where it mentions isolate.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.upi.com/amp/Health_News/2019/05/01/CBD-oil-cut-seizures-in-half-for-kids-with-Dravet-syndrome/3981556715862/
Here’s also an interesting read with a quote from a NORTHWELL DOCTOR. He’s still on the fence about CBD effects. But he also didn’t promote Canbiola or mentioned an agreement his hospital had with any cbd company.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.upi.com/amp/Health_News/2019/05/01/CBD-oil-cut-seizures-in-half-for-kids-with-Dravet-syndrome/3981556715862/
Here you go Penny. Everything you’ve said is backed up in this article. Written by a doctor for public knowledge.
https://www.foriawellness.com/blogs/learn/full-spectrum-cbd-pain-inflammation-entourage-effect-benefits
Have a great Holiday everyone.
It’s easy to ignore what you can’t prove or disapprove. It’s called Ignorance.
And while everyone is feverishly looking up how the “Northwell agreement” was born, I’ll remind everyone it was all here say.
Three months ago in post #17313, someone declared that this agreement was HUGE. So I started researching as I like to research what is believed to be true. Especially when I was about to pour more $$ in just based off that news alone.
Glad I didn’t.
So after a month of not getting a follow up to the initial news about this agreement with Northwell (which would be huge) I started digging. I’ve asked here for others to point me to the facts of having an agreement with Northwell. No one can provide that link or knowledge today.
Look everyone. Yes you can get CBD just about everywhere now. Isolate, full or broad spectrum. Don’t need a doctor to prescribe it. It’s literally everywhere.
What I’m asking is how would putting vending machines in a doctors office benefit the company? Seems redundant. A lot of people on here are excited about FDA clearing isolate but how do compare a GOAL of having physicians prescribing CBD to a different but lateral goal of putting vending machines in their offices?
So if you see your doctor for inflammation and he wants to prescribe CBD for it, are you then supposed to go to the vending machine in his office and punch in your script? No.
That’s like saying you’re hungry, you go to a restaurant and the waitress tell you to head over to the snacks vending machine and get your appetizers there.
Doesn’t make sense.
And who are these “30-60 doctors office partners” who are telling CANB the demand to have these machine is so high? As shareholders, I’d think we’d know the names of said office partners. But we don’t.
Northwell? Everyone forget about that??
C’mon people.
“Canbiola Chief Executive Officer Marco Alfonsi commented, “We are very excited with the launch of our own dedicated Canbiola product dispensing machines. Feedback from the medical community and specifically many of the 30-60+ medical offices we are currently partnered with suggested the direct-to-consumer machines due to demand, convenience and ease-of-use will be a success.”
Specifically MANY of the 30-60+?? What does that even mean mathematically?!
That doesn’t sound too specific to me. Who and where are the 30-60+ offices CANB is partnered with?
And 30-60 is a broad number when it comes to medical office parters.
I too am not a fan of the vending machines. Just doesn’t make sense if everyone is getting so jazzed about Doctors officially being allowed to prescribe CBD, why would they have a vending machine in their offices?? Vending machines are IMO opinion made for spontaneous and on the spot purchases. Like sodas. Or oh look, there’s some candy or snacks.
Although I’m not a believer in the vending machines being profitable, I will be surprised if they DON’T make them. (I mean ARE they making machines or buying new ones and outfitting them with vinyl wrap and video card? How long does it take to do this to 25 machines?) If it really is a PR stunt, I’ll still be shocked. If so, I predict just like the “Northwell Agreement”, it will be forgotten after months of pretending it was never mentioned.
But guess end of August is out for the vending machines.
According to PR, the vending machines with the touch screen video presentation and, I think, over 150 products should be running by end of August into September. We shall see....
I’m really not trying to make this about Sleeks positive posts for forgive me for using him as an example. I’m more of a wait n see if what they say is going to happen, actually happens. That’s all. Price action worries only me and not everyone. And so I’ll back off and just wait n see what happens in the next couple of months.
Please refer us to a link on the “Northwell deal”.
I can’t reply to your private message, Magister. But DD is one thing. There’s plenty of research on what CANB has SAID they’re going to do. But anyone saying we’re going to go to 5’s and 6’s after the Q2 is, in fact, pumping.
Well with everyone just on this board talking about all these 2’s they’re scooping up, you would think we would see 3’s and 4’s by now. But according to sleek, the price action will improve in a couple of months. Where before it was right after the Q2. Or the Q1. Or after the shareholder meeting.
I’m still blown away by the vending machines. That’s just so .... desperate IMO. If doctors do want to prescribe CBD to their patients, how does having a vending machine in their office waiting room benefit the practice? Seems that the patient will be dipping his credit card twice in one visit. I assume there would be a percentage the practice gets from sales for housing the unit. But then again, there’s the malls which I doubt will ever happen due to liability, maintenance and cost.
And by the way, these vending machines are supposed to be out and in locations by this month and September- according to the PR story.
Whoa I thought sleek said it would be 5’s and 6’s after the Q. Which is what he projected after the first Q. Maybe the sticky should be changed to “Parabolic” moves for 2020 since that post is old hope.
People are selling for a reason...
Maybe if someone would stop projecting huge price swings right before every Q is due, then half of this board wouldn’t be so disappointed when there is literally NO movement after. But then it’s “just the sector”. How about just seeing it for what it is. CANB is a company with excellent and hopeful plans on paper. Potential upsides with the Mobius Tens. Consumer pricing isnt popular. Thats certain. Lab reports don’t seem to add up mathematically. IMO price isn’t going to pull a parabolic move anytime soon. Not in 2018 like someone hyped and doesn’t appear there’s enough consumer recognition and use for it to go parabolic in 2019 either. Plus R/S seems to be the only way to get to $4 a share and market cap needs to increase as well to get to Nasdaq.
So now that the Q has been posted.... how about those 5’s and 6’s! I mean you said it so it must be true.
It appears VFRM is one of the cbd stocks that isn’t getting crushed today. Good stuff...
Kind of like shampoos. Kroger is going to supply options for their consumers. In my opinion, it just comes down to Customer preference and who’s got the niftier display or who has a better price point. A lot of consumers are just now learning about CBD so I think it’s beneficial to have multiple options. I personally thinks it’s Great to be sharing a shelf or a CBD section with Charlotte’s Web!
Let’s hope Monday we have more eyes and buys.