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owd....Your business acumen is showing. What would you consider explosive growth? Even a company going from a couple of million to 10 million doesn't need a "big time CFO" as you put it.
And I have no idea what the pumps are telling us. Exactly what is it they are saying?
If you don't know anyone that has left a position for a better position, for any number of reasons, then your business experience is equal to Zero!
owd...First you criticize his financial deals, now you question why he left. Perhaps they got tired of his methods of cash infusion and finally decided they couldn't afford him anymore.
For the present, a company of our size doesn't need a high priced CFO. Later with anticipated growth and a more complicated business, is when a seasoned professional would be appropriate.
I hope they don't replace him with another over priced, over qualified individual.
philo, check your pm
It's amazing how many people know so much about lots of things of which they know absolutely nothing about anything for sure.
I wish I had a clear crystal ball like everyone else. I see only clouds for the headset, IFE, Eclipse, 2nd generation Odyssey, and other presumed new products.
owd........A reasonable critique, I happen to agree with that thought and have expressed it in other posts.
Bonuses should be earned based on performance and to date they have not achieved, what I would consider, any goals to benefit the shareholder.
Owd.....That's why we need to know. I don't know that the customer is Disney, do you? Cassy doesn't think it is Disney, so why do you?
I think I will find out who the OEM is when a PR is released telling us, until then I have no idea who the OEM or customer is.
Cass...It's important to find out who the OEM is. That will tell us a lot about the probability of future orders. And there you go with your slanted view on the revenue, "is the same no matter who the end user is". The future revenue will depend on the application and the market, of which you know nothing about, just like everyone else.
How in the world would you think HP is not a major OEM, if they, as you suggest are the OEM for the headset. Any multi billion dollar company in my book is a major OEM. Tell me about your classification of major verses non major.
OT....Dell's CEO says upturn down road
Bloomberg Business News
Dell CEO Michael Dell said Friday that it may take a couple more quarters before there's a bigger pickup in industrywide sales of computer-related gear.
Dell said at a meeting with shareholders in Austin that it will take a few more quarters for dramatic improvement and for information technology to grow strongly. "There's not a tremendous uptick" in bid requests from large corporations.
Global technology spending will increase 1 percent this year, and U.S. spending on computer hardware will fall, researcher IDC said this week. Dell said business managers are "fairly risk averse" to buying new equipment.
Shareholders approved dropping the word "computer" from the company's name at the meeting Friday. Dell has expanded into products such as server computers for running networks, storage devices and services. The name no longer reflects its entire business, the Round Rock-based company said in its proxy.
Investors approved voting on directors annually instead of staggered three-year terms, and they re-elected Michael Miles, Alex Mandl and Morton Topfer to the board. Shareholders also approved an annual bonus plan for top executives.
Dell won't pay dividends anytime soon, although it will still consider them, Chief Financial Officer James Schneider said. The U.S. government in May reduced until 2008 the tax rate on dividends to 15 percent from 35 percent.
Shareholders haven't reacted favorably to software maker Microsoft, which this year began paying an annual dividend of 8 cents a share, Schneider said.
OT...Wireless ...As wireless hot spots proliferate, commercial windfall in doubt
Associated Press
NEW YORK -- Take my Wi-Fi, please.
That might as well be the motto of the increasing number of people who set up wireless Internet networks in their homes and businesses and -- sometimes unwittingly -- leave them open for anyone to share.
Then there are colleges, geeks and city officials who are making Wi-Fi as free as the foliage in public plazas. And now you can use Wi-Fi gratis in New York if you're a Verizon Internet subscriber or eating an Extra Value Meal at some McDonald's restaurants.
Add it all up, and there's a significant number of places where people with a properly outfitted laptop or handheld computer can get wireless Internet access without reaching for a credit card.
That could spell danger for burgeoning efforts to charge big bucks for the use of public Wi-Fi "hot spots." While Wi-Fi is shaping up as a true growth engine for chip-maker Intel Corp. and other technology companies, the idea of luring people to pay for it in public could be a flop -- outside of select places like airports that have a captive audience of business travelers.
"Carriers going in and making money simply offering Wi-Fi service to customers in coffee shops -- the reality of that is, it's not going to be that big," said David Chamberlain, an analyst with Probe Research.
Wi-Fi, short for wireless fidelity, radiates an Internet connection that multiple computers can share, at very fast speeds, for about 300 feet -- a single hot spot.
Because it uses unlicensed radio frequencies, Wi-Fi is relatively easy and inexpensive to operate. Many new laptop computers automatically detect Wi-Fi networks, while others easily can be made to do so by plugging in a wireless card.
Beyond widespread Wi-Fi use in homes and offices, the United States has some 5,000 public hot spots. That includes 2,700 operated by wireless phone carrier T-Mobile, mainly in Starbucks coffee shops and Borders bookstores. T-Mobile charges 10 cents a minute (the minimum cost is $6, however), $40 a month or $360 a year, though existing T-Mobile customers can sign up for $20 a month.
Analyst Tim Shelton of Allied Business Intelligence Inc. envisions 12,400 hot spots in the United States and Canada by year's end and 78,000 by 2008.
But he says the industry needs to get much better at attracting average consumers. After all, there are only so many business travelers and tech addicts who lug around laptops and are willing to pay to go online while out and about.
Though notebook computer sales jumped 17 percent in the United States and 14 percent worldwide in the first quarter, Gartner Inc. analyst Ken Dulaney attributes the rise to lower prices and better laptop performance rather than the buzz over Wi-Fi.
And Parks Associates, a market research firm in Dallas, recently found that only 3 percent of Internet users have logged on through Wi-Fi hot spots. Only 5 percent of that small group took out a subscription to a Wi-Fi service.
"If you don't really travel nationwide, what's the need for hot spots?" said Parks Associates analyst Yuanzhe "Michael" Cai. "If you are just the average consumer, why do you want to go to a Starbucks or a hotel lobby when you can just use your DSL at home?"
In hopes of stimulating demand, Wi-Fi proponents at Boingo Wireless Inc. are linking otherwise unrelated hot spots so users can roam, the way cell phone callers do when they leave their provider's range.
But even now, without widespread roaming, Boingo founder Sky Dayton believes there's more than enough demand to make for-fee hot spots successful. "In Wi-Fi, getting to profitability just doesn't require that much traffic," he said.
T-Mobile won't release subscriber numbers, but spokeswoman Kim Thompson says its Wi-Fi usage is growing. Still, she concedes "there are a lot of different (business) models out there."
"In terms of which one of those is going to win out, who knows?" she said.
Assuming mainstream demand picks up, how much of it will be consumed by community-based free hot spots, like the ones volunteer techies run in New York, San Francisco and other cities? The fashionable answer among commercial Wi-Fi purveyors is: not much.
There are too few free spots, their argument goes, and frequent users will be willing to pay for customer service and encryption that can protect wirelessly transmitted data from snoops.
Indeed, security fears have prompted several companies to prohibit employees from accessing corporate networks from home or community hot spots. Some, like Dow Jones & Co., prohibit work-related access from any wireless network at all.
The knock on free networks doesn't fly with Ossip Kaehr, who uses the free Wi-Fi in midtown Manhattan's Bryant Park. Sitting with his laptop and his son at a table in the park one wet, gray afternoon, Kaehr said he doesn't believe security is any better on a Starbucks network.
In either place, Kaehr, chief technical officer for FirstGate Internet Inc., only logs on through a virtual private network (VPN), which provides a secure tunnel to his office for data.
"I like a spot like this, to combine work and leisure," Kaehr said as four-story-high trees ruffled in the breeze and rambunctious organ chords drifted from a small carousel in the distance. "I browse free at home and in the office, so why pay serious money to use it in Starbucks?"
If that belief grows, so could hybrid Wi-Fi service plans. For example, Verizon is turning 1,000 New York pay phones into hot spots that can be used only by people who get DSL or dial-up Internet from Verizon. (As for security, Verizon doesn't employ encryption, advising wireless surfers to avoid sending sensitive information or to use VPN software.)
Probe Research's Chamberlain predicts similar models eventually will dominate. In that scenario, an Internet company like America Online would buy wholesale hot spot access for its customers from a provider like Cometa Networks Inc., a joint venture backed by Intel, AT&T Corp. and IBM Corp.
Another possibility, as Wi-Fi-capable handheld computers and cell phones proliferate, is for bookstores, coffee houses and other retail establishments to eat the few hundred bucks it takes to operate a hot spot, and offer Wi-Fi for free in hopes of getting customers to linger or return frequently.
Nine businesses along Boston's Newbury Street have shelled out $350 each to share a high-speed data line that feeds their stores so they can transmit free Wi-Fi. The network has been running for more than a year, and no store has dropped out in disappointment, according to its organizer, computing consultant Michael Oh.
"There's much more money to be had in selling more books, more coffee, many more bottles of wine, rather than trying to sell (Wi-Fi) access," Oh said. "The traditional payment plan of by the hour, or by the month, is eventually going to go away."
Online pirates face music
Industry issues subpoenas against computer users
By TED BRIDIS
Associated Press
WASHINGTON -- The music industry has issued at least 871 federal subpoenas against computer users this month suspected of illegally sharing music files on the Internet, with roughly 75 new subpoenas being approved each day, U.S. court officials said Friday.
The effort represents early steps in the music industry's contentious plan to file civil lawsuits aimed at crippling online piracy.
Subpoenas reviewed by The Associated Press show the industry compelling some of the largest Internet providers, such as Verizon Communications and Comcast Cable Communications, and some universities to provide names and mailing addresses for users on their networks known online by nicknames such as "clover77" or "indepunk74."
The Recording Industry Association of America has said it expects to file at least several hundred lawsuits seeking financial damages within the next eight weeks. U.S. copyright laws allow for damages of $750 to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a person's computer, but the RIAA has said it would be open to settlement proposals from defendants.
The campaign comes just weeks after U.S. appeals court rulings requiring Internet providers to readily identify subscribers suspected of illegally sharing music and movie files. The 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act permits music companies to force Internet providers to turn over the names of suspected music pirates upon subpoena from any U.S. District Court clerk's office, without a judge's signature required.
In some cases, subpoenas cite as few as five songs as "representative recordings" of music files available for downloading from these users. The trade group for the largest music labels, the Washington-based RIAA, previously indicated its lawyers would target Internet users who offer substantial collections of MP3 song files but declined to say how many songs might qualify.
"We would have to look at historic trends, but that is a very high number," said Alan Davidson of the Center for Democracy and Technology, a civil liberties group that has argued against the subpoenas. "It doesn't sound like they're just going after a few big fish."
Music fans are fighting back with technology, using new software designed specifically to stymie monitoring of their online activities by the major record labels.
A new version of "Kazaa Lite," free software that provides access to the service operated by Sharman Networks Ltd., can prevent anyone from listing all music files on an individual's machine and purports to block scans from Internet addresses believed to be associated with the RIAA.
Many of the subpoenas reviewed by the AP identified songs from the same few artists, including Avril Lavigne, Snoop Dogg and Michael Jackson. It was impossible to determine whether industry lawyers were searching the Internet specifically for songs by these artists or whether they were commonly popular among the roughly 60 million users of file-sharing services.
The RIAA's subpoenas are so prolific that the U.S. District Court in Washington, already suffering staff shortages, has been forced to reassign employees to help process paperwork, said Angela Caesar-Mobley, the clerk's operations manager.
The RIAA declined to comment on the numbers of subpoenas it issued.
"We are identifying substantial infringers and we're going to whatever entity is providing (Internet) service for that potential infringer," said Matt Oppenheim, the group's senior vice president of business and legal affairs. On the Net:
RIAA: www.riaa.com
Kazaa: www.kazaa.com
owd.Yes I did post that. Where does it say I said it sucks as you claim. That's all you do is twist the words to your liking.
Why don't you start and copy posts, then maybe you will learn how to get the information correct.
That doesn't tell us that it is because of VoiceNav.
OT..Off to the airport to talk about IFE, later all.
FF...What numbers? I haven't seen any. Only some reviews that stated the VoiceNav was not as good as hoped. Other reviews mentioned it with a positive statement.
VoiceNav is meant for intelligent people to operate.
Where is your proof that it was a total flop with consumers. Show me the numbers please.
owd...your post #41082......You never did answer my reply to your statements. What, you never do respond to someone that questions you? Yet you make accusations about individuals who post specific informations.
owd....I have never expressed an opinion as to the Ipod sucks.
Why can't individuals like you get your facts straight before you go around accusing people of malicious statements.
I don't remember having said the O1000 is the Ipod killer.
Please show me where I said both of those comments or in the future keep your comments to yourself. They don't belong on a public board.
owd....I have never expressed an opinion as to the Ipod sucks.
Why can't individuals like you get your facts straight before you go around accusing people of malicious statements.
I don't remember having said the O1000 is the Ipod killer.
Please show me where I said both of those comments or in the future keep your comments to yourself. They don't belong on a public board.
Matt should put you in jail for these comments.
OT ..We came out OK, far enough from us that all we got was a few inches of rain from the outer bands. Thanks
owd....Go and take a look at the hundreds of Ipods that are on ebay for cheap prices. What a joke
redwing/tenderloin...I know exactly why the trend has been up lately. 1/12th of the shareholders are under the influence of Mars and the following fact is the reason:
Mars is heading for its closest encounter with Earth in over 50,000 years. Although Mars and Earth continue in their normal orbits around the Sun, about every two years Earth and Mars are on the same part of their orbit as seen from the Sun. When this happens again in late August, Mars will be almost as near to the Sun as it ever gets, while simultaneously Earth will be almost as far from the Sun as it ever gets.
2 hour volume total...approx 1.5 million ...looking good
OT...A look at a minimal hurrican
.42 x .43
.40 x .41
OT..Isn't looking good for the Texas coast. We could get 5-20" of rain depending on the speed of this system. Formula: 100/speed=projected inches of rain (100/7mph=16" rain
owd......you are too funny. You have no idea what the conversation is even about.
Also no idea if I continue to invest and what matters to me. Get with it or stay out of it.
drven......It's always going on over at http://www.agoracom.com/
drven...closed at .35 volume 1.208 million
sidadm.......Thanks, I got the data from Mary and got back into the group. My problem is that I changed my e-mail and had forgotten the site anyway.
24601....you have a pm
ctheule.......Welcome to the board. Please keep an open mind regarding the messages posted. In time you will learn who are the edig pros and the edig cons.
But, do your own DD, none of the data can be taken as gospel, it's usually tainted with bias.
I'm doing this because I haven't seen the board moderator today.
Cass......I thought I made that very clear as to where the profit will come from. As to margins, expense, etc., none of that really matters in our discussion as long as the bottom line shows a positive eps.
I could project each of the products revenues, margins, (Odyssey, IFE, Eclipse, Headsets) along with an allocation of expenses, as I have already done on a projected spreadsheet. But you would attempt to tear them apart, and we would not agree, so the point is meaningless to list the data on a message board.
I am choosing not to make an big issue of your incorrect math, unlike the comments directed to me about my comparison of edig and ON2 Technologies where I picked up the wrong data. I suppose that's the difference of how we perceive a discussion should take place.
Cass.........Where did you do your math? It's not 15 million, it's 1.5 million to have an eps of .01
another million + day
.34 x .35 volume 997,100
Cass.....When I say fair, it's in relation to the past several quarters, which were all negative.
I said, if things go as stated, and perhaps we see some additional orders in progress, we may start with a breakeven quarter, then a .01, then .02 and then maybe an .03.
Doesn't sound like much, but given the history, it would be a great start. And taking a middle of the road PE, say 30, we would calculate a pps of .30, .60, .90, but would trade higher based on growth potential.
Now, I'm not saying this is my projection, but the price by next fiscal year end may be in the range of .75 - 2.00, very conceivable as the whole market begins to turn around and the economy shows some continued improvement.
It's a function of the current products they plan to market. If the market is receptive to the new products, then the growth potential is there, they must then manage the costs to achieve some positive goals.
The following year is where the growth would be expected based on repeat orders. And perhaps some additional products. This is an optimistic scenario, but 2005 could see the above numbers increase by a factor of 2-5 without difficulty.
Cass..You should try your luck. It is about the stock, but by year end we may also see that it is about a successful business.
The past is really past, the fiscal year end should show a fair eps if what they are saying comes to fruition. It not, then the success probability is substantially lowered.
.34 x .35 volume 812,100 looking good today
last trade at .35
Cass....I don't necessarily agree with all of that. In the end, including longs, day traders, etc., the more individuals and institutions that know the name e.digital, I think the better off we are for an improved share value.
Cass...You don't understand...It's publicity of any kind that helps more become familiar with the name.