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Nah, you really didn't... calling the next level down at every tick means nothing other than what's already obvious and that doesn't dictate where they plan to take it to scare people.
Also, I loaded up on shares and it went to 1 cent this year, so I was right.
As I've said, most of the information that's posted is incorrect, lacking facts and data. Facts and data is what I bring, which is next to impossible to refute, lol
I did not get my 3s, but moved my bid up and got 4s, as I figured that was the only thing I'd get.
Thanks for nothing!
Tomorrow I'll have a small bid at 3s just case you are right, even though you never are.
I've been waiting weeks or months now, come on... when??
Lastly I've heard this "exact" same whining last year about this same timeframe and also on other boards. Same lingo, different ticker. And look what happened, lol.
I've been super happy with the BYOC performance in 2021, but many weren't here loading in 2020. Live and learn.
So keep whining at the 52 week lows, and i'll keep loading like so many others have these past few months. How many billions of shares and millions of dollars worth?... this is all plain as day, just have to open your eyes!
Well, its pretty damn discounted, even by otc standards, lol.
Hence why I'll keep on loading like EVERYBODY ELSE has these past few months and higher pps than where we are at now.
People will still buy shares at 1 cent plus, just like what happens ALL the time and just like last year, not just in BYOC
Nobody wants it until everybody wants it.
I'm still waiting on my 3s, btw.
And who cares about dilution, have you seen, like how many tickers this past year with huge OSs, that still ran multple 1000s of %?
And who cares about dilution if this still goes to 1 cent plus?
Pure comedy central here.
BYOC
It is more diluted, but based on the amounts, either institutional, or a much larger shareholder base came in or both.
Its pretty obvious
Well, somebody's been buying it otherwise we'd be at zero bid a long time ago. I know of some stocks like that right now, somebody's buying them too, lol.
Before the wine starts for this dilution to fund operations, then why wasn't it done earlier? Something else is going on.
Historically, this normally is the slowest trading week of the year in OTC, as traders, investors, and people take vacations.
But in reality, and compared to last year, there's a ton of action by a factor of 9!!
For all of December 2020, we had 97 million in total volume.
As of yesterday for december 2021 thusfar, we're at around 888 million, and still 3 days to go to close out December and 2021.
Gosh, we certainly hope so then on this EV play.
It's not like there hasn't been loading going on for how many months now... just like last year...too funny, just can't make this up.
I enjoyed the 1000% run and will again! Thank you thank you.
We should all sell then, right? Right?
Yep, MMs picking up the shares, putting them on the ask, thus keeping a cap on it, so 4s is the only thing anyone will be able to get.
Maybe just get lucky on 3s...but without dilution, which has ceased, unlikely.
Funny that its been hard to get those 3s, isn't it? Funny that as soon as that occurred, those shares are now on the ask.
Interesting
Yes, um you are always wrong on BYOC. That's a fact.
Its seems I was right earlier this year, so you can't refute that.
The "accumulation" of the dilution, at least at the moment has ceased...
https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/BYOC/security
So Discover has a legal binding note which is where truly the dilution is coming from. Of course, some say this is the company....but if that were true... this leads to the question, what has this dilution been used for, and it sure ain't to fund operations.... if that was the case, why didn't they do this awhile ago?
What are you even talking about now? As of 12-20, there was no change to the OS or AS for BYOC. So we're at 6 million in volume for the day, and billions in dilution were well above .001 a couple of months ago... so you are wrong again.
Maybe you're on the wrong stock or just wrong like usual.
I've been waiting for 3s, but not really happening except for MM shorts or very very little market sells, tax loss selling, etc. And I'm most likely in the back of the line for 3s, good thing is i'm quite happy to take 4s anyway.
Too funny when it hasn't been retail that bought up millions of dollars worth in shares. Obviously, billions of shares just can't be barfed into the market unless something is there to buy them. Otherwise the stock would have been at zero with no bid... think, its really not that hard.
Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather have a great stock at a discounted price rather than after when it's at a great price.
Quit teasing us, give us some 3s. I mean, I keep "dreaming" of them, but they never hit.
This market cap though at 6 million...Lol.
I'll keep buying when the opportunity awaits.
There will be no delisting, No RS, no chart breakdown on BYOC. Lol nice try.
This stock has been this low for loading up for a major breakout in 2022.
Merry Christmas to all!!
Sure, but I did see .0002 on the streamer for a couple of million, MM manipulation for the run that resulted to flip the PSAR as low as it could go
Look at the chart, June of 2020. I thought I had screenshot it, but I couldn't find it. I mentioned it on ihub too
2s actually got hit last year for a couple of million maybe, but I don't think any retail got them.
They were used to get a head start once the PSAR flipped.
Umm, there was 1 billion showing at 3s, so lol on the 2s, like I just said. Even if some of those are fake, there's still a LOT sitting there. The only way to get there is with dilution... and on that note....
I'm shocked that none of the usual whiners brought up that the Security details were updated on the 20th and there were zero changes to the AS or OS...
https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/BYOC/security
But as soon as there's an increase, omg, the world is coming to an end... even though millions of dollars of accumulation has been had below .0025.
Too funny, but GL.
There's only 1 billion 3s to go thru and they just get skimmed here and there.
Why wouldn't you want 3s on an EV play?
Come ON 3ssssssss.... hit me!!! LOL
Facts and data time...
From June 1st, 2020 until Dec 31st 2020 (6 months), roughly 15.7 million dollars in trading volume.
From January 1st, 2021 until March 31st, 2021(3 months), roughly 32 million dollars in trading volume.
Now just from Sept 11th until today(about 3 months), there's been 26 million dollars in trading volume. Difference being we've been in a churning and accumulation phase here at the low. Holy balls.
Lots of opportunity and accumulation... must be for some reason. But what do I know, it's all a scam, lol
Well, here's the thing... this same action has been going on at every slow drop since June of 2020. It has NEVER ceased to stop!
No doubt last year, some entity(s) that's definitely not retail snatched up shares, sold "some" on the last huge run, and now is loading up to possibly do it all over again and maybe for the last time.
Who knows, will see.
Then you should sell now to buy lower if YOU think they will do that, which they have not announced. Its that damn simple!
I of course hope that they do an RS when we are at .01 and above, it is bloated nonetheless.
I'm sure the ones that have been accumulating down here would say the same thing, lol.
But then again, it makes more sense for them to buy back shares down here doesn't it?
New post about BYOC team with Electricars in Italy... looks like Stallone, the CFO.
https://twitter.com/IncByoc/status/1470418774209744901?s=20
BYOC tweeted an article today... on a Sunday?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-25/bank-of-america-foresees-100-billion-wave-of-ipos-in-ev-space
BYOC tweet an article on low speed vehicles and market for them these next few years:
As I said, BYOC is now an EV company.
The Global Low Speed Vehicle Market Size is projected to reach USD 8.17 billion by 2026, exhibiting a CAGR of 4.8% during the forecast period
Read More at:-
https://www.fortunebusinessinsights.com/low-speed-vehicle-market-103021
It'll be higher than that soon. Is what it is.
Well Warefare I could actually call you out on few other things that are contradictory or just don't make sense, but frustration can do that... with this stock. But as I say, I respect ya as you have brought good insight and confidence for us longs. Again, we all can agree on the frustration here. People can refute things I say or contradictory, as well. These are discussion boards of opinions anyways. At least we give reasons.. whether good or bad, unlike some.
But yes, 2 white candles on the weekly are nice to see, along with other positive indicators as some have mentioned.
I personally feel the 2nd half of month we'll see positive movement in price, as MMS expect tax loss selling. But Discover note has billions more to go which is on the table, which is freakin unbelievable. I can't believe that will be all converted, as the guy is more than covered on his investment. Unless as I mentioned this was all by design to legally build the shareholder base. It's a fact money flowing into otc grows every year and I'd imagine it's not all retail.
I plan to accumulate down here as long it stays low and i'm able to. The prs this week make BYOC an EV play regardless how the prs are viewed and EVs are going to be hot for years to come. Until I see more details, especially on the Elettricars potential deal, we're considering them low strain on the balance sheet and risk/ reward is great even though there's a lot of competition such as Polaris Gem, which is US based. Again risk/ reward favors reward, kinda like the low price we're at now. Plus the otc as a whole will turn and favor freakishly low priced SEC filing, current companies with reoccurring contracts, and revenue generating. I look forward to contacts going live, as has been mentioned and perhaps maybe gets profits to exceed operational losses.
2022 i'm looking forward to.
And as always, I have to utmost respect for you and the intelligent conversations(as opposed to some others) that are conducted here on this platform.
Have a great weekend and hunting!
We can all agree, including the company, that nobody likes where the pps is at, but I can definitely say that you really don't know the history... and i know you don't care anyway... but theres a reason why pps came down here and it started with a very unfortunate death. The stock was holding its own and for how long, quite awhile! That's quite a comeback and it was George that made the deal with last owner of S800. Maybe they didn't do proper DD on it and she lied. Doesn't really matter anymore.
While I don't know all the events(how could i?), I and other longs do see progression and things turning around. Most importantly, what is conveyed to us, is being reflected in filings, prs, etc.
We also talk amongst ourselves the risk here and negatives... we are disgusted by what's transpired, but there's a reason. Play the hand that is given, the stock was broke after the death, that's a fact. Since there's bad history associated with this stock, the company does have to use thier discretion with giving out to much information. Maybe he's lying, but we dont think so. Stretching the truth and bread crumbs... definitely, but it's to be safe... we are in the scummy otc nonetheless.
Additionally, the company somehow, despite the operating losses, is able to make an investments into startups, which appear to be low risk financially, but good if things pan out.
Of course, things could go belly up and every one loses their arse. To that I say we longs were here last year and look where things ended up, and now things are in better shape financially then last year. Remember, it takes money to make money.
Nothing seems to make sense, but in my own opinion, progress is being made. BYOC is still better than most otc companies, despite the disgusting price action... perhaps it is meant to purposely piss retail off, idk. Seems to work despite you always mentioning that you'll sell off as soon as you can. It's a game as you say, use them before they use you.
Just have to say again in your inconsistency here on what you convey? You don't think the dilution will ever end, but you accumulated over 500 million shares?
You are correct, it is ultimately on the CEO and BOD. To that I say, at this point, what warrants a higher pps? Nothing because there's not more revenue reflected in filings and NOL keeps growing. So That's where that lovely speculation comes into play and what the company is conveying of possibly what's coming, whether retail believes what the company says... or not.
Clearly there's been dilution to clean things up which is being reflected in the filings, but as you said previously, somebody has to be here to pick it up otherwise we'd be at no bid.
BYOC is making deals and things are moving... maybe they take awhile or things take off in 2022 or a slow rise, retail otc traders off even more like a couple of companies I've said before. Id love a historical pop and hold like everyone else, but either way if not.. I'll still be here to find out... how ever long it takes or it goes belly up.
Every situation is different, but with the runs and subsequent drops related to toxic lenders, many that are "in the know" with the toxic lenders have made nice profits.
Yes, it literally is like there is a gun to companies heads, if the company has no other way to get funding... toxic lenders push the pps down, for those in the know to grab cheap shares, knowing they can sell on the subsequent run, then sell off feeding the MMs to tank it. This is all pretty well known actually. Hence why the SEC has put a stop to this.
There is a ton of nasty stuff that happens here in the otc, that's why there so much risk and you have to play it accordingly or get raped.
For BYOC, the toxic lenders were removed first and that was last year... hence the runs/ drops we had. This year, got rid of the rest of one them with a lawsuit, Illiad. But this is different than last year, in that Illiad had no control to run it.
I do not consider Discover toxic, although with price action, it definitely appears that way. Regardless of what the company says that it defaulted on the Discover note, I believe that it was by design. Ironically, I believe it is for the greater good for shareholders, just depends on what type you are.
It's as I said before, institutions and companies do not care or want retail involved with a stock, as retail will not hold long term and in some cases can road block a public company. Big money will swing it, but the bulk of shares are/is locked up, hence the nice runs the otc has had in the past few years.
It's no different then any other stock, in reality, but I agreed its amplified with this stock.... for a reason. Imo the history here plays a huge role with certain "bad actors" that have been involved previously. That had left a bad taste in management's mouth. So don't always blame the company when the same shit is done on the retail side if things. I'm not condoning what has happened with the dilution, as I see both sides, but ultimately long term, I know for a fact, the longest of longs will be fine.
Yes this pullback is happening across the whole OTC, wrecking a lot of noobs... as someone said recently.
It will turn around, "nobody wants it until everybody wants it", lol
As for Discover, he is registered with the SEC or at least was, as a lot of the information and websites listing it are gone. Maybe Discover has people reaching out to him, pissed off on the dilution. Lol
Yep, and Discover blatantly admitted that in the settlement, lol.