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OT: I just read yesterday about C and its use of some type of http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/07_46/b4058049.htm?campaign_id=yhoo
seems citi may have a bit more to go
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here is a recent article about JPM- it is in good company here
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2007/11/06/happiness-is-a-portfolio-like-this.aspx
If you invest for 20 years - then it may not makke much diff when u buy.
OT: Citigroup has not bottomed yet - buy JPM for growth - I suspect JPM to double in 8 months. C may just stay where it is for 12 months.
g
excellent post - in the face of all this negitivity I agree -
just over the horizon for us here.. lol - conjecture at its best
I posted a motley fool article a few days back - in these pennys the price does not follow the stock value - if you believe it does - then this is probably not the place for you.. I am thinking about this stock in terms "of my neighbor tinkering in his garage and I happen to have given him some $$$ for some materials - if he makes it big then lol I am into to it with him" otherwise it is thrown away $$
yes it was sad - but recovering nicely - ty for asking.
merry xmas and happy new year to all
- no news is good news for this stock
Monday, October 08, 2007 was when your ID was born--> so god only knows if you are a crank or a shareholder.
How would they know - they are just a individual investor in a stock like most of us on this board - who are U? Where did U come from? or what was your name before?
If I buy 7,500 more shares I can bring my cost basis from 22.76 to 5.xx - it is compelling. BUT if they continue to sell to fund basic operations, I probably better wait for .01 lol 8-(
if you need to sell - then do so - good luck -
the mistake we all make is HOPING for riches - when it is really years away.
From the Motley Fool - Penny Stocks:
"Why We Love Wild Penny Stocks
By Tim Hanson and Brian Richards (TMF Brich) July 27, 2006 Comments (0)
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Penny stocks have huge potential -- that's their blessing and their curse.
The potential rewards are enormous. If an investor buys a $0.10 stock, and that stock moves up a measly $0.10 in a day, it's a double.
That $0.10 double looks like an easy gain considering that Apple Computer (Nasdaq: AAPL) would have to add another $60 in value to double its share price, and Google (Nasdaq: GOOG) would need to throw another $400 on the fire to eke out another double.
Everybody loves pennies
And it's a story that many investors have bought hook, line, and sinker. We typed "penny stocks" into Google and the search engine spit out "about 8,130,000" hits. We did the same for more time-tested terms such as "blue-chip stocks" and "dividend-paying stocks" and got just 1,920,000 and 571,000 hits, respectively.
Sure, we expected a discrepancy, but the size of the gap was startling. It became even more interesting when we broke those hits down with Google Trends. According to Trends, penny stocks are particularly alluring to investors in Calgary, Tampa, Orlando, Miami, and Edmonton -- the locales where the term is most often searched.
" ...... and
"Well, then, why do we "love" penny stocks?
We love penny stocks because they're fascinating. The world of pennies is inhabited by hardworking average Joes hoping to strike it rich, pumpers and dumpers, hypesters and scammers. In pennies, the logic and reason that applies in the rest of daily life is replaced by zeal and prayer.
However, we don't love them enough to actually buy them. Yes, they have big potential. But their daily gyrations are unpredictable -- the stock price movements have next to nothing to do with the underlying company the stock represents. In fact, trading in pennies is highly illiquid, and prices are often manipulated by forces not at all related to the business.
The dangers of incredible promises
If you're buying stocks without paying attention to the business you're buying, then you might as well be buying a lottery ticket. Or (to use another analogy) you might as well buy up every baseball card of a benchwarmer on the Akron Aeros AA baseball team, and hope that he someday rises up, fulfills his potential, and becomes an all-star for the big-league Cleveland Indians.
"
The whole article is here
http://www.fool.com/investing/small-cap/2006/07/27/why-we-love-wild-penny-stocks.aspx?terms=penny+st...
and u may be right -
but to really invest in this company u have to buy shares on the open market - the restricted shares will not be worth it.
maybe we should buy a few shares on the open market - assuming they are doing this stuff - cause they have a pump a coming -
Lets hope they take the shares back out of our accounts - unless you own more than a million shares - they are really no value to any of us - Restricted Shares are worthless - well until the stock goes to $10 or more.
bobby -
I have been told by many on this baord that megas graduated from Wharton Business School - and he understandsy our system. Are u PUTTING A CRACK IN THAT THEORY?
Happy -
they did a public PR about the Blog
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/070919/0303929.html
Problem is in corporate business over many years I have been trained to look at the top left of things for an important message - the blog is on the very bottom
thanks wayne - I never would of looked all the way down there - But maybe that is a problem with the web page - when reading a letter or an email we look at the top left - and hardly look to the bottom of anything. Generally we are not selling moutains - so maybe the stuff at the bottom needs to go to the top and put the moutains at the bottom
ty
Jer
ok - would u think somewhere on the web site - it might say Shareholder BLOG? anyboody find it yet????
I have restricted shares of Evans Systems 20,410
I looked at a small stock I used to own usxp at .0003 with 21 billion authorized shares. it is still going.... so I suspect so will we.
after .0001 can it go lower?
I agree - with you George - when mgmt produces - we go back to .15 or higher - the last time to this range was poster hype - luckily those posters are mostly gone;
I like to think of this stock as the one where back 47 years ago a share holder kept buying when he had $$ - he thought the stock he was buying had potential to be big - so every chance he had - he increased his buyings - that was around 1959 to 1964 or so - he was buying a little known computer company called ibm - well u kn ow the rest of that story!
7/27 - I said it was going lower before higher - look at my linked post below - this will not increase until sales and profit show up; It is a long range stock/ If you can not wait then sell.
Leo - in that case - why not sell and move on? Why would u remain here?
"I don't want this to become another CKYS." IHUB should look at all the poster on that board and classify then as pumpers or "both sides of the coin" posters - then for the stocks like ckys that went belly up - ban the pumpers.
We all know this stock is a 4-5 year deal now - those that bought at .0004 or higher are mad now that we are touching .0001 - but no `1 said it was a easy $$$ here - think of .0002 as a gift and sell and move on
exactly catty
that did not happen with CKYS nor the nightmare BCIT - why not just sell and move on - and let those of us who believe in the stock over the next 4 years continue to do so - If u bought for a killing then go elsewhere - they are enough pumpers all over the iHub penny haven - just follow Jerseyboy
When ever the SEC is involved - all bets are off - the Commission will do what it wants - not what any of us think. Let Ian' own Lawyers' deal with their problems - after the months of local shareholder pumps on CKYS and what happened there - I shudder to think any or you would think you are helping HISC to get the SEC involved - unless you work for a lawyer firm - you and I really have no idea what will happen.
I would rather let HISC work sales over two to three years and let the magic happen.
I disagree -
This Hisc company will take time - u need to wait as we all know. CKYS was a FRAUD - if u want to do the sec here - just sell and move on - I do not want to see HISC halted - it is an bad experience.
SEC and HISC - ok sounds good - then just like CKYS they will halt the stock - for an extended period of time and when it opens again - it will go to .00000001 - that sounds like a real good plan. LOL
how many shares
would you need to buy/sell if the stock only moves .0001 - since we are stuck in a trading range .0002 to .0003 - somebody is making $$ here
your right, I do not, but like you and everyone one this board - we are all in the same boat - we all have no clue - we are just riding the waves hoping to make a killing - we have entrusted our hopes in a few emails of people we do not personally know.
In about 3 years I will be ripping out the downstairs bathroom - if nothing happens by then - maybe we can paste our shares as wallpaper - wallpaper is going about $2 per roll in 2007 - that is about .01 per ave share.
good luck
jer
exactly -
we are clinging to a few emails from other posters on this board as to our firm relationship with Mr. Megas; timeframes quoted have gone by the wayside; If he is a business school graduate, he probably is looking at his cost spent vs just acquiring a new shell without the baggage associated with it.
tooo bad
my companys stock traded almost the same as hisc - but it went up 1.54 lol
Mel
with any luck we'll hit .005 in two years - this is a long road - as management has said .
welcome back
they never should of banned U.
by god BCIT and CKYS - and in trouble and are on this boards - it seems ihub is not respectable and I believe they need to boot companies that are not fully reporting from these boards - CKYS had soo many pumpers and everybody lost it ALL. but glad u are back - I sold alot at .32 and .33 - looks like an excellent executive decision now. I have about 3k shares left that no 1 will buy
Received email from apple "and use the monetary reward to buy back and retire the illegitimately issued shares." Are these our restricted shares? If so _ I gladly just give them back and save the time.
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On August 1, 2007, Evans Systems Inc. filed a lawsuit in the United States District Court for the Northern District of Texas, Dallas Division (Docket Number 3-07CV1332-D) against Evans' former directors, Fredrick Wicks, Brian D. Riley, and Ian Riley. Evans alleges that on October 11, 2006, Wicks, Riley, and Riley issued to Homeland Integrated Security Systems, Inc. 31 million shares of EVSY stock for no compensation and without a legitimate business purpose. Further, Evans alleges that Wicks, Riley, and Riley were beneficiaries of the stock issuance, and that the transaction constituted self dealing in violation of Wicks', Riley's, and Riley's duties to the Company. Evans seeks to recover the illegitimately issued shares that were distributed to Wicks, Riley, and Riley, as well as the monetary value of all 31 million shares as of the date they were issued. Should Evans prevail in its claims against Wicks, Riley, and Riley, Evans intends to retire any shares its recovers and use the monetary reward to buy back and retire the illegitimately issued shares.
look what happened to garmin when it took off with sales and perceptions
sry to say - waiting for lower - we all know we are looking at a year or more investment - from here - so I expect lower before it goes higher - maybe .0002 only time will tell
R/S to .70 - we sit at .09 now - share holders benefited how? Mgmt?