A last note

I don't think people should be able to personally attack people in pm's. If it's not allowed on the boards, it shouldn't be allowed in pm. Obviously only the person receiving the pm can report it. If someone is talking jive about someone else to another person, there'd be no way to know and it wouldn't matter anyway. If someone posts "pm me and I'll give you her home phone number," or "could someone pm me with her personal information" that post shouldn't be allowed either. Of course anyone can just pm everyone on the board but someone else could report it.

If anyone pm's me a personal attack, I most certainly will report it and have done so.

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Agreed, koikaze

If matt just enforces the TOU instantly with everyone, there will be no problem. The problem starts when someone takes the easy way out. Let's say there are five people who don't like one person's posts. They all complain. What's the easiest thing to do? Get rid of the one person, doesn't matter who's right or wrong. Of course in the long run it doesn't work. If he enforces the rules religiously it will perhaps be a little tough in the beginning but soon he won't have to reprimand and suspend for violating the TOU because they just plain won't be doing it.

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you didn't say a week in jail

you never gave a time period.

I used to post my dd post every time someone else posted theirs just to counter it. I hope you told them not to post it anymore as well. I will only post new bits of dd and will just refer others to the dd post if needed.

I won't attack others and don't want to be attacked anywhere, including the parking lot and jail. I also don't want anyone posting my real name or any personal information. I will report every tos violation I see.

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I believe the journalist did a good job on article

If you take a look at his first and last article on npct, it was basically cut and paste from the press releases. I don't believe kathy is right in saying that the writer did not quote paul correctly. You know paul would force a retraction if that were the case. I sent the writer kathy and paul's comments and he said they didn't say any of that to him and didn't ask for a retraction or anything. I believe paul probably did say those things. He just thought the guy wouldn't include them because he did such a positive article about npct earlier.

http://www.frtechbiz.com/displayarticledetail.asp?art_id=51068&search=nanopierce+



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no "going concern" language means nothing

All going concern means is that they have sufficient funds for the next 12 months as of the date of the last annual. It does not mean that a development stock is a good investment or investors cna expect share price to increase. It means nothing. I've even seen companies without that language go bankrupt and/or get halted by the SEC for fraud.

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most scams are "development" companies

what better vehicle. You don't have to be a real business. You don't have to be successful. Just stay a "development" company until you spend all the money then go bk. I'm not saying ALL development companies are scams, just that most scams are development companies.

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I looked at NVEI

took a look at all the 144s and sales. Looked at the fact that they have no real revenue and huge losses. Looked at last SEC report. Looked at the chart. I took a look before I said they seem suspect. THEY SEEM SUSPECT. This is my opinion.

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Matt, did you kick Tony out?

It seems that he is not allowed to post on ihub anymore. Is this true? Why? What happened?

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mikey, sounds like very suspect company

very scammy. Here are a few more duds with dd if you're into that thing

http://www.mary.cc/npct
http://www.mary.cc/astn

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muell, do you really believe that?

you really think you are helping people by posting about a momo jobbie? That is hyping, promoting, a little pump and dumping. I don't think you are helping anyone but yourself trying to inflate the value of your own shares so you can sell. Everyone here also knows that jmhollen is a pump and dumper. That is not a good thing. It's a bad thing. Scalping is illegal. Trying to manipulate the value of thinly traded otcbb penny penny stocks is also a federal crime. Look at his calls. They all go down. LFZA, TMOTQ. Heck, on tmotq he made up a false rumor about millionaire wrestlers coming to bail the company out. They had already liquidated their assets, closed up shop and fired everyone. I knew like 20 employees. When they then went from chapter 11 to chapter 7, jmhollen lied and said they were still building bikes and I lied about chapter 7 filing. You think that is an upstanding person in the community? one who commits security fraud?

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another note

I feel that the parking lot where personal attacks are allowed just fuels the fights. They can't help but drag the feelings to the stock boards. Same thing with the ihatebashers boards. They just attack private people. If those boards are allowed to stand with their personal attacks, then perhaps I should start a board, ihatepumpers where I can attack anyone I feel is a hypester. There should be no personal attacks, invasion of privacy, or obscenities anywhere. Take it outside of ihub. It just fuels the negative feelings and energies here. There's nothing like that on SI, at least that I've seen. Someone wants to get nasty with me, they can email me outside of ihub.

How come muell has an ihub email address? Does he work here? Can I use mine again?

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I offered to bury the hatchet many times

sara refused months ago. My offers are on RB and yahoo astn. I will hold out the olive leaf once again but I would like to see sara agree to it on the boards. willy, joelong, joemoney, muell, jmhollen, fgoelo and bop also. Of course IFFFFFF matt would just enforce the TOS, we wouldn't have to worry about any more fights. You don't see me fighting on SI because no one attacks me there because they don't want to lose their user name.

Matt will need to get a little specific though. Is it a personal attack to call someone a liar if they are? Can I call a stock promoter a hypester? A pump and dumper a fraudster? A bad investor a bad stock picker? Where is that line between description and attack? What words are allowed?

Also, in relation to invasion of privacy I think that we should not be able to post anything personal or make any personal comments about any posters here unless they are part of the public companies or work for them, even if they have posted their information months ago or post a link to their site. Nobody can go to allwhois and post their address, name... Nobody can post an old link from here or anywhere else with the information in it. No one can post a link to google and tell them what to search. Loopholes should be closed as they arise. I would not like to see my astn legal docket posted by sara. I'm not a public person and it is no longer relevant to astn.

Also, what's an obscenity? People get around the obvious bad words such as a** with arse and b**** with biyatch, f*** y** with eff yoo. How about any derivitives, misspellings, phonetics aren't allowed either, though they'd probably fall under personal attack anyway. Thoughts anyone?

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We're talking TOS not federal law

The tos definition is up to Matt. On SI you can't state anything personal about any poster even if they are hired stock promoters. I personally believe that we are free to talk about public companies and people who work for them as they are public entities. I don't believe that we should be able to post personal information about posters because that information is used against them on the boards as harassment. You guys post my information and I get pizza delivered at midnight to my house, crank calls on my tollfree number, my name put on antiabortion lists stating I'm going to kill my baby, you guys emailing the IRS that I owe taxes... You guys do it to keep me from posting. I don't want anyone here posting any personal information about me at all. If it continues, I have a feeling that all the personal information of those individuals will end up all over the internet, just not on ihub.

I also think that muell and jmhollen spam ihub by posting "DDRX gonna rub big today!" on five different boards at the same time. That is spam. On RB you can post the same post or dd link once a day and you can't post links to commercial sites.

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Yes, include spam and obscenity also

as the major offenders. I see hypesters here posting things like "QBID to the mooooooon!" on like five different boards, same exact message. That is spam, right? to post it on say $5 under, daily pics, willy's world, pump u up...

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Matt, okay idea but....

I think if you violate tos, you get one warning email. Do it again, suspended for a week to the jail. Do it three times, user name permanently deleted along with all posts and membermarks. This way people wouldn't attack in the first place so there would be no rebuttal attacks. I'm talking about invasion of privacy and personal attacks. You do what you like with copyright infringement and the other violations. These two main violations are the cause of all the fights here. Notice how pleasant I am on SI because SI Jeff won't allow the initial attacks against me.

...on SI you violate the tos, you get suspended so people don't violate them in the first place. If you enforced the tos and state "if you violate them, you will be suspended for a week," I doubt you would have many violations.

...on RB if you violate, you get one warning then on the second violation, you get suspended for a week. If you violate again, you lose your name, all your posts, member marks, ignores... Generally people have a few names handy but you are only allowed one user name per email address so they don't go through them as quickly though people generally use a disposable one to do the tos violation.

...on Yahoo if you violate, one warning and you are deleted forever, all posts, user name gone. Of course people can get a ton of user names to the same email address even so they are disposable. Generally they use a disposable one to make a tos violation.

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I was being polite

then the attacks started again and matt does nothing about it. He tells me to report the tos violations and don't respond. I report them and they're still there while everyone replies to them. Then after reporting the post and it's still there a day later and everyone has commented about it, I finally reply to the lying post to clear things up and I get called the attacker because I call the person a liar. If he'd deleted the tos violation instantly as he does others, then there wouldn't have been a problem. As soon as I make a tos violation I have six hypesters reporting it in their user names. When they tos me, I'm the only one reporting it. Who do you think gets more negative attention then? me of course because they're a group of people complaining about one person vs one person complaining about a bunch of people.

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okay, poet, I will try

actually if I do that, then everyone can see my real name then matt can say that I posted my own name so it's okay. Hmm, just do full text search for my user name and/or my last name which the world now knows. Then you can see joelong, joemoney, jmhollen, sara, willy, muell, bop posting my real name and even home address and phone number.

To see the attacks against me just plug in my user name and ignore my own posts. I think maybe twice have I ever had a chance to debate stocks here. It's all just personal attacks. Notice when I post on SI it is ONLY about stocks and NO personal attacks whatsoever and no one attacks me or posts my personal information without instantly being suspended. I may not always agree with Jeff but at least he enforces the tos.


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not quite right matt

I didn't follow the parking lot before. Notice I don't have it marked. They were posting it behind my back.

Let me get this straight. I go to an obscure board and post people's real names, addresses, phone numbers, personal attacks on say friday night. If no one is stalking me and no one reports the posts for 24-48 hours, then the post stands and I don't have to worry about being suspended. Then I can feel free to post a link to the old posts with all the attacks and personal information. Just trying to get things clear. If they can do it, I will be doing it also. No more just sitting around and taking it. I will do what htey are allowed to do so I suggest enforcing the tos against everyone or no one.

matt, do you think I care if I get out of jail? most of my posting is on si, rb and yahoo, you know that. That's where everyone is except small time wanna be pump and dumpers who post here. The main posters on my stocks don't post here. There's no one who even knows my stocks here. They just attack me and know nothing about the stock. Heck, muell said npct had a fine product that's everywhere when the product is still in development stage and he was the director of astn board. sara just reposts other people's posts from rb, yahoo and si on astn, same with npct. I only started posting here to see if you would enforce the tos properly or not, it was a bet with bob, remember.

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Matt's unfair TOS enforcement

This is how it goes I just heard. If someone violates the TOS against you, you must report it within 24 hours or the posts stays and nothing happens to the person. This means you must search all the boards all the time to see if someone has attacked you or posted your information. If you can't find it, they get away with it. If they say make a post of it somewhere else then link it to ihub, you can't even search it. If they link to an older post in a new post, this is fine and dandy. Is this fair? I don't think so. If someone violates the TOS, they should be thrown in jail instantly and the offending post should be deleted. Search my user name and you can see muell, sara, bop, joelong, joemoney, jmhollen all posting my real name and they are still here. You can see tons of personal attacks and they're still here. Either enforce all the rules all the time on all the people or throw them out the window completely.

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I did that Poet

I tos'd them when they were made originally then again later then again yesterday when I could easily see them through the new search engine. They are still there. I had this issue with matt before and told him to remove them months ago but he did not. What they also do is post my information on boards I don't frequent so I can't see it and tos it. sara posted all my personal information probably 20 times on yahoo and RB. She was suspended from RB for doing it and lost four names on yahoo for doing it. The ONLY thing that got her to stop was when all of her information was posted once on yahoo, and not even by me personally. This is why defense is necessary. Just reporting the tos violation does absolutely nothing. Do something like that on SI and you're instantly suspended for two weeks. Do it here and people applaud you.

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why weren't other's posts deleted as well?

they were personal attacks and invasion of privacy. I just think that they should not be allowed to attack me as it is a violation of the tos. Again, matt does not enforce the tos all the time against all the people. He only enforces them when a bunch of hypesters get together and complain about one person. He allows me to be attacked yet he doesn't allow me to defend myself. The only thing that gets this people to stop is defense. Sitting there and taking it just makes them do it more. Look at past posts for evidence of this. I'm still getting crank phone calls because of everyone posting my real name all over this site.

To the people crank calling my tollfree number, my phone bill shows your number and where you are calling from. Just be forewarned that if you continue to call my tollfree number, I will post the phone numbers I see on every solicitor's list I can find so knock it off.

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you respect me, i'll respect you.

I'm not going to just sit and let you guys attack me and post all my personal information though. I did that and matt just let you guys walk all over me. He still does. Your personal attacks and posting of my personal information are still all over this site. Search it and you can see. I never gave anyone permission to post it.

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Look at ibox

attacks are okay. You can pick on people here just like in the parking lot.

You bop just got caught in the fray of a fight if you remember. sara, jmhollen, joelong kept attacking me personally and I didn't respond. I would just tos them as matt said to do but he wasn't deleting their posts or suspending them so I decided to do the same thing. I attacked every person on the board with any silly thing I could think of. If I remember I pm'd you and told you so you'd understand what's up. j

Then you decided to follow me on the boards and try to debate me on some stocks I follow. You took the opposite side of the debate for the heck of it and that's how it started.

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Matt allows them to attack me, post my information

over and over. Search my name on this site and you will see it everywhere even though I have reported each and every post. You will see tons of personal attacks against me yet they all stand. Why? Because there are more hypesters here than real investors so Matt votes with the masses. If most people want to see an honest negative poster leave, he sides with them obvoiously. They can attack me personally and post my real name, home address, phone number and that is fine. I can't even call them liars or hypesters or I get thrown in jail.

the only good thing is that I know I'm doing the right thing by trying to stop the fraudsters even though they attack me viciously and personally. Here is just one thank you letter from today. A guy asked me to look at a stock for him and I ran it through my dd machine. Obviously I won't include his name.

"Thank you much for helping me in this matter; i.e. Don ***...sued for
securities fraud, circ. '96.

This is the answer to my inquery. I chose not to reveal my source, in
the original letter. And have no intentions of doing so now.

I salute your prowess and candor, in this matter. Frankly I was quite
shocked...to learn of this event.
And....as to your DD in many of these OTCBB companies....I cannot doubt
any of your assessments of these unusual (sometimes well hidden) events.

I have been mulling over dumping this stock, and moving on. You have
done me a great service...in making a decision. I am looking for a Jan.
effect "play", and sell into some good PR poop....

I can't thank you enough for bringing these events to my attention.
Don't waver in your endeavors to help all unsuspecting fools...who put
good, hard earned money up, only to have it snatched from them by these
seedy promoters.

Inquiry: How are you making out with your ******** ala P.M./NPCT thing?
Guess you know why........
.....you're ruining their P. & D. scheme for the year....
Keep it up. At least you know your sleeping OK. Wonder if they are?

Take care,"




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my posts were like that

then everyone attacked me anyway. Go look at my first posts to sarals on rb. They were extremely polite even after she attacked me five times. I posted our first exchanges in the parking lot back in july I believe. She attacked first, she posted personal information first, over and over, she emailed the ceo of the companies where I posted and begged them to sue me, she emailed my online buds telling them I was a horrible person into beastiality and porn when it most certainly is a complete and utter lie. Sara has a major problem with me and I believe it's jealousy. The other people have problems with me because they are pump and dumpers and I'm keeping them from ripping people off.



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his math was sound

but the numbers he plugged into the equation were impossible. Everyone knew it. more info here http://www.mary.cc/umcc

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Liar, joe long

post the entire post. I never said $22 was doable. I always said they were a bad investment. I was just being polite because the guy's math was correct but the numbers he used were impossible.

joe will post a deleted post number then say that i said such and such when I never did. He edits people's posts then posts them using deleted post numbers so no one can verify.

why is joe still here. He posted my real name a few times today and continues to personally attack me.

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No personal attacks on SI

Want to know why? Because if you attack once, it is reported and you are suspended. That is why people don't attack me over there and I don't have to reply to it. Because SI admin responds. You just let everyone attack me over and over, posting my real name and information and you do nothing. Go read my SI posts.

Also, I don't think it's right that people can repost parking lot posts to other boards. Attacks are allowed in the parking lot then those attacks end up on other boards where they would not be allowed.

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I am attacked because I'm right

I'm attacked by pump and dumpers, paid promoters and a wanna be promoter. I'm glad to be attacked by them as it means that my posts are right on. They want to lie to investors to cheat them. They want to hide the ugly truths. Of course they will hate me. As there are a ton of promoters on these boards, they attack me.



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liar, joelong

I started on the yahoo boards not RB. You are also lying about me hyping. I've never hyped in my life and you know it.

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pick me on

pick on everyone else, matt. Remember, treat everyone the same. Please post how many posts willy, joe, muell, bop had deleted as well. Why are they not also here in jail? They attack me personally en masse and are still around. I reply to those attacks and I'm in jail. I had five people at once attacking me at the same time. If I'm in here for replying to their posts they should be here also for attacking me initially.

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astn will be good again soon

they are poised for another drop as they haven't been producing any volume and they will need to take some more toxic funds soon. As price has been up recently, I feel some bad news on the horizon. Price always goes up before bad news with this company.

npct will go down also but it has so many stock promoters and the CEO keeps releasing misleading PRs that I see some ups and downs. They will need to access more toxic funds by July and that should cause it to go down again. The new Louis lawsuit should keep it down and the fact that the ceo can't drop names of big companies in his news items for a while. I think the ceo really needs to see $1 in order to find new funds.

I think hdi may correct down soon then rebound as usual, just like last year around the same time. They've been having to chase down bad loans on the bikes for a while and may have to make it public in their next report. The new vrod also has some issues and some people aren't thrilled about the new Buell look. hdi always comes back as they're a good solid company so if you're short, be careful. I just don't think they can continue the growth in this shrinking economy, especially in the luxury recreational vehicle industry.

SAH will continue to go up. I see $30 by June. They've been doing great belt tightening and just bought a few more dealerships in order to keep growth up. They're also going to redo health plans, just redid employee compensation plans so this will show up on bottom line in the coming months. They're also mainly insider owned.

If ezr ever resumes trading, it'll dump instantly. They may be looking at chapter 7 from 11. Probably won't resume trading.



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You can short under $1 in Canada

or other countries. Just open a Canadian account.

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if you were invested in the stocks I cover

and read my posts and sold, you would have saved a bundle. If you'd shorted them, you would have made a ton. You people prefer to attack any negative post instead of reading them.

EZR $2.50 to .43
ASTN $2 to .08 now at .28
TMOT $2.50 to .003
UMCC $2 to .002
BIGX $5 to .12 halt

there are more. Look around.

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This is a free country

I'm not forced to give stock tips to others. I'm here posting my personal opinion and research about certain companies which I believe are either suspect or just plan bad investments. If you'd read my posts and used them in investing short, you would have made a bundle. Do with my posts as you please, read them, don't read them, invest based on them or not. I don't care.

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you guys attacked first

my first exchange was sara was pleasant. She was instantly nasty as heck, called me up and called me a b**** then stalked and bashed me for months. My calls were all right. Her calls have been wrong.

I don't post bullish anymore because then you guys follow me to those boards and bash them with no information for no reason. joelong followed me to hdi, pii and just bashed them over and over. Others have also so I don't bother to post bullish anywhere.

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personal attacks allowed in the parking lot

as per the rules

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matt, be sure to enforce tos nondiscriminatorily

Bird of prey, joemoney, sara, muell all personally attacked me and/or posted my real name, invasion of privacy. Notice that most of my posts were replies to their tos violations.

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Good idea northwesterner

that is what RB does. You get one warning then your next tos violation gets you suspended for a week. I'm all for it. I'm not the one using foul language or posting personal information.

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it's been posted before

ask matt. what about answering this? are you involved in a multi level marketing scheme? making any money off of it?

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