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"I didn't see any of the people who attended the last meeting"
I was there last year. So was the uniquely dressed Hassidic gentleman who is a substantial investor - hard to miss him!
It seems powers of observation can be very subjective.
But glad you've stuck with Baltia for 19 years. That's real commitment and dedication. My first investment in Baltia was 20 years ago. And though I hold more stock than you, your investment is also substantial and is making an important contribution to this unique enterprise that is now more likely to succeed than ever before.
Whoops... Baltia Air Lines Annual Stockholders Meeting
So used to writing "Airlines" elsewhere!
Baltia Airlines Annual Stockholders Meeting, Sept. 26, 2011
The meeting was called to order in a meeting room of JFK Terminal 4 by corporate secretary Walter Kaplinsky, who placed into nomination the names of the current board of directors for another one year term. No other nominations were offered, and the nominated directors were unanimously elected. Mr. Kaplinsky then turned the meeting over to the company president, Igor Dmitrowsky, to give his report on the status of the company.
Igor reported that the arduous FAA certification process of Safety Attribute Inspections (SAI), consisting of a moving target of over 4000 questions addressing the thoroughness of the company’s detailed manuals for operations, training and maintenance, was now almost at an end. He expects Baltia to receive final approval of the manuals and their related SAIs within 30-45 days. After that milestone is reached, Baltia can then start hiring and training. Following initial training of crews and operations staff, the FAA will supervise a “table top exercise” (where the FAA comes to the company offices and poses a number of hypothetical problems & emergencies, and rates the response of the company personnel according to procedures spelled out in the approved manuals).
Aircraft evacuation training and tests will be held. Finally, there will be proving flights totaling about 100 hours flying between JFK and St. Petersburg, where FAA check pilots will test the flight crews’ response to various simulated emergencies. Then Air Carrier Certification is expected to be granted, a DOT order authorizing the beginning of revenue flights is granted, and then 30 days later revenue flights with passengers can begin. Baltia advertising will not be allowed until the DOT order is issued.
Igor reported that Baltia’s second 747, N706BL (formerly of Northwest Airlines), has received its certificate of airworthiness and remains at the Kalitta airlines facility in Oscoda, MI where a few final cabin and navigational upgrades are being performed. He expects this plane to fly to JFK around the end of October.
Baltia is in the process of moving most of its office staff and equipment to a new large facility on the JFK grounds formerly occupied as the U.S. HQ of Japan Airlines. (These offices comprise about 9000 square feet.) One of Baltia’s two offices at JFK Terminal 4 (the International Terminal) is being retained as a terminal office. But all other personnel and operations will be housed at the new facility, including 24/7 reservations. Attendees were invited to visit the new offices after the meeting.
Igor then invited questions from the audience of about 20 shareholders (those not otherwise connected with company), and about 10 questions were asked and answered.
Q 1: What is the company’s policy regarding share dilutions?
A: Dilution, though not desired, has been necessary in order to raise the money needed to enable the highly complex and demanding startup and certification process without incurring debt. However, the company has tried to minimize this necessity through frugal management. When revenue flights commence, one could see share values increase by many multiples of their current value.
Q 2: Why did the FAA change the rules for airline certification on Baltia?
A: It wasn’t because of Baltia, though Baltia is the first new airline to go through this process. The FAA’s AFS-900 team developed the new certification system, and together with the NY-FSDO FAA group here in NY, they developed the rigorous SAI concept with over 4000 SAI questions to be answered by the airline. The SAI process was developed to greatly enhance airline safety, and has gone through at least 4 revisions while Baltia has been in the certification process. The FAA staff involved has also changed somewhat, further complicating the process. The SAI process is a monster in complexity, but will serve the traveling public with much higher standards of safety discipline for airlines. The only other airline to go through this process was Atlas Airlines, a preexisting cargo carrier that applied to modify their certificate to include passenger carrying authority. It also took Atlas 2 years to go through the SAI process.
Q 3: Is Baltia’s SAI work proprietary, or can anyone else use it without cost?
A: It is somewhat proprietary. Those parts that are proprietary could perhaps be sold to another airline starting the process.
Q 4: How long until the FAA approval of the manuals?
A: About 1 month to 45 days. Getting final approval is not a completely straightforward process, as it is partly subjective. But the FAA has been cooperative, reviewing our text along the way, and so we do expect final approval to come without any undue difficulties.
Q 5: How long after approval to the first paying flight – 60 days?
A: Approximately so. But it depends on the DOT’s subsequent issuance of their order to allow Baltia to proceed with operations. We expect that to follow quickly on the heels of FAA certification.
Q 5b: So you won’t start flying until after the start of the New Year?
A: Possibly.
Q 6: What is the status of Baltia’s first 747, the one in Maylasia?
A: All attention and resources have been focused on N706BL (Baltia’s 2nd 747) because this plane could be certified quicker. All effort is focused on the earliest possible launch.
Q 7: Will there be a reverse split of the stock?
A: “We are not masochists yet!” Igor emphatically said he is against any reverse split, and is not interested in the arbitrary requirements of some financial institutions for a stock price of over $1 in order to be listed. (Such as NASDAQ’s apparent requirement. BC later said he believed that a price waiver permitting getting on NASDAQ with a price well under $1 per share could be gotten if the company is very strong in other requirements for listing. He believes this would be the case with Baltia. Apparently such waivers have been given before. So in this case, there would be no reason to even consider a reverse split.)
Q 8: Will Baltia do a stock buy-back?
A: This has been discussed, but capital should be used to grow the company instead. This would be a far more effective way to increase share value, by growing and strengthening airline operations.
Q 9: What future routes and what numbers of planes are you planning?
A: We want to be both careful and aggressive at the same time. First, we must establish operational standards for the airline in actual practice before adding more routes and planes. The SAIs have been a great educational process toward these standards. We will be establishing line stations to the same standardization. We know that once an airline has 4 or more planes, problems rapidly multiply. We anticipate that, and will be ready for it when we reach that point. Markets of interest to us include the capital cities of Russia, Ukraine, and the Baltic states. We’ve applied for the Moscow route, and when we get that, we will close off the New York – Moscow – St. Petersburg triangle from other airlines, and this should be highly lucrative. Nonstop service from JFK to these cites is highly advantageous.
Q 10: What is Baltia’s cargo sales potential?
A: We’ve received lots of interest from Fedex, DHL, etc. for block space. An advantage of the 747 is that it has a huge amount of cargo capacity, compared to most other planes. We would be involved with high-end cargo that pays a lot. We can carry 100,000 pounds to Russia and 80,000 pounds back, at $1 per pound, which is quite profitable. However, initially our focus will be more intense on developing the passenger market.
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No more questions were offered, so the meeting adjourned and many went to see Baltia’s large and impressive new offices and adjacent maintenance facility on the airport about a mile from Terminal 4. Total square footage of the offices is about 9000 square feet. A PowerPoint slide show on the painting of N706BL and the gold gilding of the rooster on its tail was shown, along with the video of the plane’s dramatic takeoff from Victorville.
Unlike another attendee, I did not perceive any distress among the Baltia staff about the company’s financial situation. In fact, the attitudes and atmosphere seemed genuinely upbeat and confident. However, there are indeed formidable financial hurdles to be surmounted before the first revenue flight. Somehow, BC and his team seem to continue to do magic.
- As recalled by DeepSpringer
Total office size is about 9000 square feet, they say.
There is a strong fear among some that after a reverse split, the stock price gets only a momentary lift and then settles back to the PPS as it was before the split, thus defeating the intention and hurting the investors.
I don't know anything about the history of reverse splits to be able to judge whether that fear is well founded or not. Does someone else have good knowledge in this area?
As I understand it, a reason for doing a reverse split would be to raise the PPS to enable getting listed on NASDAQ, which apparently requires a minimum PPS. If listed on NASDAQ, it is thought that then the volume of activity in the stock should greatly increase. But it would have to hold/increase its price to be able to stay listed there.
Any comments on this?
More on travel agents' importance to Baltia...
A high percentage of lucrative first class seats on airlines are sold by travel agents, because first class customers often prefer to delegate bookings to a trusted agent. This type of customer just doesn't have the time or interest in booking flights themselves on the I'net.
Take a look at this premium travel agent's website, who specializes in upscale tours to Russia...
http://www.exeterinternational.com
Wouldn't you like to have them booking their tours to St. Petersburg on Baltia?
That's why Baltia sees it as very important to court travel agents, and to have all the right answers - credible answers - when these agents start asking questions about Baltia's older airplane(s).
"If Baltia does that right, things will be fine. It sounds as though Baltia intends to do just that."
Exactly!
"Who cares about travel agents..." Baltia apparently does. Group travel is still usually handled by travel agents, and the nature of St. Petersburg (cultural capitol of Russia) makes it a target of a lot of upscale group tours. Baltia seems to want that business, because it can fill a lot of seats.
"Interior looks shabby....The pictures of the 1st class upper deck are not very impressive. Does anyone know if they plan on replacing the fabric with leather?"
The fact of the matter is, Hazezky is correct. This is exactly the reaction that experienced travel agents are likely to have who know what the interiors of the 787 or 747-8I look like. But "It is what it is." We don't have really big bucks to invest in new aircraft, whether purchased or leased. But we do have a narrow window opportunity to get started on this route with a "pre-owned" aircraft that still has good life left in it, is fully capable of handling the route, and that is relatively cheap to initially own.
There are ways to overcome the drawbacks of the outdated interior to create an absolutely superlative flying experience for passengers that will create great word-of-mouth among Baltia's target traveling public. Though the seats of N706BL are an older style, they are comfortable and clean. Think of the interiors that you see in the photos as what an empty house looks like before you move in. There are ways of creating an ambiance within that space that overcomes its limitations, and Baltia's plans for doing just that are outstanding.
Prior post #10160 about interior:
"Baltia did buy a more modern interior with LCD's in the seats, which went to Malasia to be put in N705BL. But if that interior was shipped to Oscoda for installation in N706BL, it would vastly complicate the air carrier certification process, causing a big delay. The one interior modification that the FAA allowed without adding to the certification workload, was increasing the pitch between coach seats by 6 inches, which has been done.
"The certification problem is that the newer interiors are designed for the electronics of the 747-400, and this is a 747-200, so special FAA approved engineering (to accommodate the newer electronics of the LCDs) would apparently have to be done to allow its installation in N706BL.
"Sometime after air carrier certification is completed, and after revenue flights are well underway and at least one other aircraft has been added to maintain the flight schedule, then that engineering could be done and the new interior installed. First things first: let's just get flying and earning money.
"But Baltia does have some very imaginative plans in the works to make sure that the passengers' comfort and flight experience is outstanding despite the older seats and older entertainment system."
Baltia's 747 will not come to JFK for the stockholder's meeting, for very good reasons that have been previously discussed here.
But when it does come, you can bet on a top notch media push.
Yes, I'm attending. But my role behind the camera will prevent me from participating.
Post questions here for stockholder's meeting, and then maybe someone who is attending will ask them for you and post the answers back here afterwards.
Haven't heard any plans for a video/phone conference.
See post #10243 for driving directions to the meeting.
See you there!
I suggest that you aim to be there at 8:30 for best traffic. Try to avoid the Whitestone Bridge and Van Wyck Expressway, if possible due to chronic construction delays. If coming from the north or northeast, I recommend taking the Throgs Neck Bridge, Cross Island Parkway, Belt Parkway to the JFK Expressway right on to Terminal 4. Usually there are little if any delays on that route. Parking is typical New York - expensive. Figure about $22, and they take credit cards or EasyPass.
Inside the terminal, take 2 escalators to the top floor, then walk to the left past the check-in counters to the far left corner where the chapels are located. The meeting is in the central chapel.
Variant2: the link up above for the video of Baltia Takeoff needs to be updated to:
Sorry. Next time, if you wish, I could wait until the customer is finished asking for changes. But that may mean that this board will have to wait a week or more after the event to see it.
Whoops! Moderator, URL change again for video:
Blog moderator: please update link above for the HD video to -
"What is the music that you added?"
"Eternity" from Pond5.com
"Works good with the music..."
Thanks. Actually, my choice of music is a little controversial. Some want an "Up, Up and Away!" style, and I tried something like that, but it didn't seem quite right because after all the hard years of effort, there is much more to this story. Something a lot deeper, and I wanted to convey that. This is not just about an airplane taking off, but about an idea finally coming to its moment. To adequately do that, the music had to elegantly portray perseverance, vision, and the spiritual stamina to face the storm clouds and climb right over them.
New HD video w/ sound:
Up above this list of posts are a few reference links and one of them is for the HD version of "Baltia Takeoff". You can also find it by going to Youtube.com and doing a search there for "Baltia Takeoff" and it will come right up - makes it easy for telling others how to see it.
I removed two earlier uploads of it that had poor resolution, after I learned how to get the upload right.
I will soon be uploading another version with sound that will give it a little more pzazz.
Will Scottrade accept the Baltia stock certificate for the deposit of its shares into an account?
Please tell us who to contact at Etrade and TDAmeritrade so we can add to your voice.
I saw the site - very impressive. I'll give Fred a call and then pass on the info. This seems like just what is needed to solve the "looks like an old plane" potential problem with passengers.
There's an old saying, "sell on the news." After a lot of speculation that the stock would jump if the world could just see the plane fly in Baltia colors, when the plane flew and the stock didn't jump, some folks may have gotten discouraged and decided to bail out.
Just a guess.
The eVu looks interesting. Does it have to be mounted in the seat back, or can it be held in the passenger's lap? Is there some device for hanging it on the back of seats that originally weren't designed for these things?
The spiral staircase is a feature of the all of the 747-100 and 747-200 (Baltia's) models. Later models have a straight staircase.
Interestingly, regarding differences between sub-models, the 747-100, -200, -300 and -400 are all the same length. (231 feel 10 inches) This is unlike other Boeing models where the -200 -300 etc. sub-model designators indicate stretched models. Until the 747-8I, the only stretching of the 747 is in the upper deck, where the -300 and -400 have 20 feet longer upper decks. The new 747-8I is truly a stretched 747, with about 20 feet longer overall fuselage length than the earlier models.
FAA certified?
Is it already approved for installation on a 747-200? The FAA won't let you tap into the plane's electronics for anything, not even a nightlight, unless the engineering has been rigorously tested and approved for the particular type of installation contemplated. Remember the crash of a Swissair MD11 near Nova Scotia a few years back that killed a couple of hundred people because the entertainment system started a fire? The FAA is very sensitive on this point.
Baltia did buy a more modern interior with LCD's in the seats, which went to Malasia to be put in N705BL. But if that interior was shipped to Oscoda for installation in N706BL, it would vastly complicate the air carrier certification process, causing a big delay. The one interior modification that the FAA allowed without adding to the certification workload, was increasing the pitch between coach seats by 6 inches, which has been done.
The certification problem is that the newer interiors are designed for the electronics of the 747-400, and this is a 747-200, so special FAA approved engineering (to accommodate the newer electronics of the LCDs) would apparently have to be done to allow its installation in N706BL.
Sometime after air carrier certification is completed, and after revenue flights are well underway and at least one other aircraft has been added to maintain the flight schedule, then that engineering could be done and the new interior installed. First things first: let's just get flying and earning money.
But Baltia does have some very imaginative plans in the works to make sure that the passengers' comfort and flight experience is outstanding despite the older seats and older entertainment system.
P.S. - there is a screen that pulls out for front cabin.
Google "Baltia Takeoff" to find our video.
If you want to tell someone how to find our video, they can go to Youtube.com and do a search there for "Baltia Takeoff", or if they Google the title, the video will show up there as well.
It does have N706BL painted on it exactly where Northwest had painted their registration ID - on the rear of the fuselage. If you look close in the movie's second shot, you can see it - gray lettering over the white fuselage's tail end.
HD video version of takeoff:
N706BL will most likely be parked outside in the elements at Oscoda, MI, because all the heavy duty overhaul work requiring a lot of disassembly in a hanger has been finished. Just some cockpit electronics to be swapped out, which probably doesn't require being in a hangar - premium space.
But regarding the elements, we dodged a bullet in Victorville. We flew out on Saturday morning, and that afternoon a huge thunderstorm hit Victorville with large hailstones that could have damaged our new paint job. Hope we stay lucky!
Proving flights must be flown on the ACTUAL route to be flown by the airline.
During these proving flights, the FAA inspectors will put the Baltia crews and other personnel to the test in terms of dealing with emergencies and other challenges, and the solutions in these tests are often route specific. Baltia ersonnel must demonstrate their ability to solve problems according to the solutions spelled out in detail in Baltia's manuals. Challenges like 2 simultaneous engine failures, airport closed at primary destination, hijacking attempt, depressurization, etc. (I am not an expert in this area, but this is what I've heard.)
Passengers cannot be on board during these flights, but paid cargo can be carried (so some of flight cost can be offset). The FAA apparently requires about 100 hours of proving flights on the actual route (about 6 round trips), and they must be fully manned by fully trained Baltia crews. So that gives an idea of the time line involved. But, it is a much better defined and predictable process than the gauntlet of the approval of manuals and the SAI's, and so is much more susceptible to solid scheduling.
Keep in mind the old saying, "time is money," and so that is a significant challenge as well, which BC and Igor have done an absolutely phenomenal job of managing.
But all that said, I am confident that Baltia will indeed fly over the rainbow successfully - and it will do so within our lifetimes!
Factors to consider re: N706BL flying to JFK:
1. The plane isn't needed at JFK until sometime AFTER manuals have been approved and crew training then requires the plane at JFK, and following that, when they'll be ready for "proving flights" to Russia. And it's far more expensive for the plane to be idly parked at JFK than in Oscoda.
2. The annual UN meeting is about to start, and the FAA will impose a no-fly zone within 2 miles of the UN building until 9/30 and the NYC air traffic from heads of state will have NYC area Air Traffic Control on edge ("Don't even think of aerial photography with a 747 then.")
It's a "preview of coming attractions." Stay tuned.