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Paranoid? More like reading the written word and connecting the dots of all the players. Paranoia doesn't play into it at all. It's just reading and taking it for what it says.
You're kidding me?
I no sooner post this, and Collins Stewart and Knight bring in a couple of larger bids.
Depends on why it goes to 20. It will be easy to call, just as these last 3 months were.
I'm so glad the financial relationships were pointed out to us. It makes it all understandable.
The sell orders are the length of my arm. There isn't a serious (25,000+) buy order to be found.
Ugly day. Ugly last 10 days. The chart is a nightmare.
When you posted a couple weeks ago that it could go below .10, I thought you had kind of lost it. You got a better feel for this stock than I even gave you credit for, and I've given you alot of credit.
No kidding. This is silly. It has to hold .10
He's got 90 days to move them. He sure didn't do it on 6/17 as there was only about 600,000 volume that day.
Something of note. Monday 6/27 there was a 229,000 sell order at .13 all day long. Just checked L2 and it's gone. If there were any reason to buy Tuesday morning (news, anyone?), this thing would blow up first thing in the morning.
2 days before Easter. Haha, couldn't resist.
Wild Goose chase? The guy has put up a link to support just about every statement he's made. Don't bother responding to this because it's nothing to get into a discussion about, but the guy's work is so thorough on this matter it's ridiculous.
I'm hoping, no...expecting, KBLB to buck the penny stock, pump letters cycle, but I agree that Thompson could have financed this differently. I agree that, for the expenses that have been incurred to this point, Thompson could have found some billionaire out there with an interest in science and an investing philosophy that could have easily financed everything KBLB has done to this point. Maybe even a Notre Dame alum. You and I would then be out, so I'm glad he has done it this way, but that doesn't change the facts.
Zinc, this is a serious question, and I'm not trying to bate you. Seriously want your opinion.
Let me preface it first. After going over Kim's statements of the past year, he hasn't really made any predictions as to prevalent applications of any of the generations, or what he might think market penetration would be. Most of those kind of speculations have come from contributors to this board. Statements like gen1 could be used in sails and such, or gen2 replacing Kevlar, can't really be attributed to Thompson. I can't find where he ever speculated on ideas like that.
So let me ask you.....What do you think will be, realistically, the prevalent uses for each generation, and what do you believe the market penetration will be? I don't think time frames are important for this particular query, and that's not my purpose for asking your opinion, so don't concern yourself with that.
Thanks in advance.
I do have to say Manshoon, even though I totally understand and appreciate your post, I'd be startled if, under just about any scenario, we were to test sub .10 again. I really think we'd need more than just silence. I think we'd actually need some negative news for that. Or maybe a 6 month silence. .10 is getting down there for this stock. Too many longs and others that would accumulate at higher levels. Only time will tell, but sub .10 would really be ugly and inexcusable.
Just another in a series of great posts.
If news comes during this particular pump cycle, and this shoots to .25 and then settles around .16-.17, that might not be so bad that those that bought in the low .20s might hang in there for awhile. The fear for those people is that they don't follow up their purchase with DD, become discouraged, and sell out, therefore souring on the whole thing and missing out.
As JB says, same old, same old. I wish we would get through this period. Becoming quite tedious.
A newsletter went out over the weekend.
So far we've had about $175,000 worth of trades. I'm guessing SWA is expecting more news to follow last week's CC. I wouldn't be surprised if there were some kind of PR tomorrow morning. Not saying KBLB is playing into it, more like SWA is anticipating it.
Actually, I think they're done, but those are some large block sells on a low activity day. It's somebody taking the left overs, that's for sure.
I don't know if you miss the point concerning Calm Seas on purpose, or you just can't get out of your box.
P&Ds alienate new investors. These new investors get news letters, buy something as it's going up (pump), and then sit there and get slammed on it's way down (dump). This is no way to encourage long term investors. The problem we have been having with Calm Seas isn't the terms of the LOC, it's the relationship they have with their bedfellow StockWatchAlert and the conduct of that relationship in regards to the shares Calm Seas controls.
Understand? Calm Seas would be fine if there were no StockWatchAlert. OK?
Oh man!! That's a whole new bowl of worms that would take ten minutes to post on and I don't have the time right now. I'll be back.
Why would a lender insist on who your Investor Relation personnel should be?
So they have a guy on the inside helping them play their game? I don't know.
Ben Hansel received more shares than the University of Wyoming received for their patents. That is incredible.
Been found out again.
So Taco, how many shares you got?
"Trade" magazines would be the most obvious. They are always looking for content and advertisers. His investors then would be other people who are interested in the scientific aspects of what he's doing. As it is, he's looking to get financing from WalMart and Costco employees that sit on the internet when they aren't working.
I learned about this from a friend, and yes, that friend learned about it from a pump newsletter, though we didn't know that's what it was at the time. Neither one of us had much experience with penny stocks up until then. We then did alot of DD together and found we believed in the company, though he was underwater for a long time, something we just couldn't explain to ourselves until about a month and a half ago.
If he wouldn't have told me and started doing DD together, he would have been out months ago at a loss.
Not to be fixated on Calm Seas again, but if you understand everything you just saw the past 2 weeks, you aren't going to be totally frustrated when this starts trading 750,000 shares a day again about this time next week. But there will be all sorts of "what's happening?" on this board when it does. The volume and volitility of the past 7-10 trading sessions was fabricated, and it is due to the involvement of Calm Seas, nothing else.
JB2 is right when he says Thompson should be using more traditional avenues to get the word out. When he does, we'll start seeing regular days of 5-7 million volume, and it would be volume that is "buy" weighted. But, until then, ebb and flow is the way we go.
He couldn't have rang it any louder than he did on this one. Too many of you were to busy questioning his motives to listen to what he was saying.
I guess it's better to say I'm committed to the stock at this time rather than saying I'm long because I have to be honest, after understanding how this past week was going to play out, and it did as forecasted, I did a little selling and buying back. Call it building around a core, or whatever you want, but I never had any intention of doing anything but standing pat until Manshoon put out his DD. It was plain to see that he had it nailed.
Long, but hey, took advantage of a plain to see situation. Sorry.
I agree. There was nothing said that would send us to Wonderland heights, but there shouldn't be such a level of disappointment to instigate a sell off. Anybody that just chucks in the towel after that will have no problem finding somebody to buy their shares off them.
Zinc, in all seriousness, do us a favor.
Hear the CC at leisure with good reception. Take some time, maybe 24-36 hours to really absorb it, and then bang out a post for the ages. You could have it ready for us before Monday's opening. You've been kind of scrambling a little bit this evening, and if you just took a little time and really let it all sink in, I'd bet you could really put together a post that would be clean and concise, and be the foundation for further discussion of this CC.
Just consider it.
Zinc, in all seriousness, do us a favor.
Hear the CC at leisure with good reception. Take some time, maybe 24-36 hours to really absorb it, and then bang out a post for the ages. You could have it ready for us before Monday's opening. You've been kind of scrambling a little bit this evening, and if you just took a little time and really let it all sink in, I'd bet you could really put together a post that would be clean and concise, and be the foundation for further discussion of this CC.
Just consider it.
Implies outstanding profit margins
I can't imagine the market selling off too aggressively. I would think a bump upward Monday morning.
Thanks Red for getting that out there.
Thanks for your notes. Were those in real time? Good Job.
Or create more nonsense. Sorry, I have become real pessimistic lately. I'm still holding long, but there are a ton of questions that just don't seem to have any logical answers. Like why is Ben Hansel worth 20,000,000 shares, and the U of Wyoming and their patents worth only 17.5 million?
And don't tell me to call and ask Ben. What's he going to say?
There were some warrants expiring on 6/15/11 that had to be exercised. We really don't like to discuss that though.
You just explained it. No volume, they can fiddle around. Big volume like we had the past 3 or 4 sessions, they are immaterial. If volume comes in today, it will be buying volume. If not, the MMs could shake the tree. You explained it perfectly with your post.
Buyers don't have a chance now. The seller that brought all the liquidity to the party the past week is gone, and now the buyers are just facing long and strong sellers. The bid will have to be sweetened all day to get any action. Any significant volume gets us close to 20 IMHO.
Actually, if he did what I said, the price rise would probably be much more dramatic than even what I said.
The point is, we need commercialization news, we need revs. It's like we're treading water, and the skimmer is just pulling us to the side of the pool. Why don't we just swim over there and get it over with?
Here's some optimism....IF Thompson gives us just a morsel of info concerning commercialization, like a name, or a date, or serious earnings guidance, we will make a nice, orderly climb from here to the mid to high 20s throughout the summer.
6.5 million sellers have finished their work for the day.
Can I just ask...why did you bother making that move?
These are all the people that ask you for DD anytime you say something, then they come out with totally unsupportable statements like...MMs walking it down, panic sellers, don't understand the science, and blah, blah, blah.
It's been spelled out a dozen times what's going on here.
Bang my head.....probably against yours.