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We all agree on the few, very few, possibilities. I am actually struggling with the idea that the inventors sold because who would they get to buy (If you have something that will be of great future value, why are you trying to sell it to me, now?)? I am convinced that the trade(s) was/were prearranged.
The bid to buy over a million shares today is quite different from Friday's arrangement.
Someone is looking to drop $30,000 on this stock this morning.
Good catch that is correct a 13D
There is a poster on SkunKs blog that is claiming to have made the share purchase on Friday. If you believe him/her, then it shouldn't have any impact on the share price whatsoever. It is certainly a substantial investment regardless of who purchased them. I guess we will learn soon enough. If the poster was telling the truth, then the new purchase added to current holdings will most likely require that he/she file an 8-K. Perhaps then we will learn the total truth.
It looks like the second set of two million does not show up in either total. This is a large amount of shares. I wonder if they found financing? We should not confuse the buys and the sells. It simply means traded at the bid or the ask.
Edit: Looking more closely, it was traded below the bid. This could mean that this deal was pre-arranged before hand based on an average trading price over time.
So much for a slow steady climb. They got the slow down, and need to work on the steady.
MM's are walking it down this morning, They are trying to make a love connection.
It would also take some monumental news, like a refinancing deal, or major settlement to cause a gap. IMHO
I hope you are wrong, as gaps have a tendency to be filled. I would prefer a slow steady climb.
I expect a motion to include the 5th patent to follow the acceptance of the motion to strike. This could very well push some to consider settling.
Anything above .10 is a post split gain. The R/S brought us to .10
Looks like another good volume day today.
I was excited about it when I first learned of it. I may get excited about it again if the company decides to PR it.
That could still be true, and just not happened yet, or at least not prior to the last filing. I agree though, that it must be accounted for in the filings.
I typed too soon!
These large blocks are not lowering the share price. I think something is up.
The screen shots I posted were from Etrade.
I have been reading the dilution body language for a couple of weeks now. Unfortunately, I have been squirming in my chair. I remember you stating that when the stock fell below 3 cents, that you were going to invest another $10,000. That did not happen. You are now awaiting further information, wise. Now back to my original question, why would anyone be buying in at these prices after watching the price drop for two weeks, and no end in sight?
Indeed. Any other explanation why someone would be buying large blocks, now?
Why average down now? There is still two and a half months left before the next Q. What will keep the PPS up until then? The stock has been dropping consistently since the last Q. It is like catching a falling knife. Why would someone who has already lost a majority of their investment buy more on the way down?
The question is not who sold, but who bought.
Someone is looking to sell 300K @ .0204 this morning.
That is a possibility. Reading most of your post, one would assume that is throwing good money after bad. Why invest in a sinking ship? Why not sell now, and buy in at the bottom?
It is impossible to tell what caused the two 300,000 share trades yesterday. The price totaled to just over $12,000. It does not appear to be retail trading. One important question is who purchased those shares? Another important question is why would someone invest in the Titanic after it hit the iceberg and started sinking? My guess, and it is just a guess, is that GERS may have found financing, and the financial firm is acquiring shares ahead of the announcement. What other ideas do posters have about those two trades yesterday?
Sunnybank, I do not know who GERS uses for an MM. The only way that I know for absolute certainty that dilution has occurred is when I read the SEC filings from the company. I have observed the activity long enough to know with a high probability when dilution is occurring, but it is not a 100% accurate.
Sunnybank,
I think the specificity is related to the equipment they used when developing the process to patent. It is not reasonable to expect an inventor to develop a process for every single mechanical means to get similar results. They would have a difficult time explaining their patented process without explaining the exact equipment they used to develop the patent. I also think that is why the Markman hearing went in GERS favor to allow "mechanical process."
This infringement lawsuit has nothing to do with I CM's patent attempts
My concern is that they had hired someone who's expertise is to design around patents. The 5th patent would not have been applied for unless GERS felt it was necessary. They may have found enough loop holes to make the patents ambiguous to the point that it is not enforceable. I am not a lawyer, and do not play one on ihub, so what do I know? I would like to hear Freedom43's take on the situation.
Freedom43,
I do not know if you are aware or not that ICM has requested a judgement summary regarding the GERS lawsuit.
Do you think that they did this to prevent the 5th patent from entering the lawsuit given that the 5th patent seems to tighten up any loose ends in the previous patents?
Can this prevent GERS from including the 5th patent?
What is the likely hood of GERS winning this case without the 5th patent?
I look forward to hearing all the details when they are available
Does that shorten the 2-3 year theory before money changes hands?
GERS stock is trading normal. Some buy the stock hoping it will go up, some buy it hoping it will go down. The smarter ones have figured out that it always goes down. I, unfortunately, do not fit in the smarter group. I purchase hoping it goes up. The only individual responsible for this stock is the CEO. Continued dilution will help the smarter group make more money going forward. We need good news from the company to help increase PPS and burn the shorters once and for all. GLTA
It sounds like it would take 2-3 years to touch cash if the entire process runs it's course. Settling could occur sooner, much sooner. I agree that GERS lawyers are playing their A game, and are good at what they do.
Hahahahahahahaha!!
Good to hear from you Petalman. Because you did not define pool, there will now be a debate on this board regarding whether it was a swimming pool, or a car pool complete with commenters agreeing with one side or the other.
Um...........Because that was the arrangement. I guess they could have purchased the patents outright, if they had the funds to do so. Also, they do not pay royalties on all of the patents, just the ones that were granted prior to becoming Greenshift employees. Notice now that any new patent has KK's name on them as well.
Remember the original argument was that GERS dooe not have any assets, and owns no patents.
I agree! Some are much better at asking then answering. Remember the multiple payments of 1.6 million to YAGI that you piped in about?
Some assume here that Cantrell and Winsness can simply take their ball and go home any time they choose. Crazy!