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SAEI.OB Please stop all personal attacks. Enjoy the board and the information here but do not post about users.
SAEI.OB Why would we "worry"? That has never been a real problem with Supatcha, just with shorts and traders. I would hardly characterize us as "promoters" for spreading the word to people that we love. Nobody called you? Sorry. Ee tak sigda, as they say in Russia.
SAEI.OB LOL! He may have a point. A left wing democratic government in a depressed economy would never support or invest in a company (SAEI .163)...or bank (A*G 41.18), or automaker (G* 33.40). LMAO! What were we thinking?
I have read some other ridiculous rates put forth for the buy out offers. Ridiculously Low! Remember that we totally have the option of mining this ourselves and banks actually encourage miners to buy gold finds at 50% over the premium rates as hedges against future shortages of new finds and increases in the value of gold.
SAEI.OB I have been on the phone today, telling everybody to get in here NOW. With the bidding war that is brewing, we will not see these levels again. With all that the company has to accomplish in the time left, I see them doing their serious buying of shares, sooner than later. I think that if I was handling the matter, I would make an announcement about the existing offers, then release the NI 43-101 and then let the competitors decide that they could do better than the others and see what happens. In other words, I would unleash holy hell this week and next and then sit back and watch the show.
SAEI.OB Whoa there! Don't assume that the company or the investors are so "dumb" or simple minded as not the be able to understand the intricacies of leverage. Such a linear approach to investing and finance as you are suggesting is worthy of trading comic books or capturing cards in some game, not the real grown-up world. There are refresher courses in business that people can avail themselves of both online and at local community campuses which are a much better source of information if they are inclined to speak from authority about other people's investments. Successful completion accompanied by competent showings in subsequent examinations and licenses that grant the privilege of telling people what they should do with their money are generally issued. Good Luck
SAEI.OB Our board marks are about 200 more than the last time we were up here. I think there are good odds that we are getting some longs in that mix who are anxious to hold out for a real payday and we have enough new interest to keep climbing to a realistic level even with people exiting along the way.
If anybody at all is still in the red at closing tomorrow, I will be truly amazed. Somebody would have to make a real effort to bungle this no-brainer.
SAEI.OB I have no delusions about some of the most ardent supporters that may show up in SAEI next week. Don't trust them for a minute. Better yet, hold tight and don't let them accumulate enough to hurt us. As I have said before, we have gone beyond the psychological reach of many penny players and we will need to retain our gains because it is more difficult to inspire people in the twilight zone between OTCBB and NASDAQ. Just our presence on IHub makes many feel entitled to expect penny performance from us. This company is bound for bigger things and has demonstrated the willingness to achieve those goals. I know that sounds like so many other boards that cry "real company" and I hate the sound of it when I say it. This is an exploration company and breaking new ground is in it's genes so let's not succumb to the mindset of many that we must perform like their favorite pump and dump.
On a side note, LOL @ the novel idea of sending the administration a message by investing in metals:
http://seekingalpha.com/article/238802-will-buying-silver-crash-jp-morgan?source=email_the_daily_dispatch
SAEI.OB Don't forget the company may choose to compete for those scarce shares. I implore those who get shut out to please whine as much a you like. LOL! It would be a genuine public service to those who might be considering similar errors. One thing is for certain, with our current level of attention, there is enough dry powder already sitting on BIDs to make flipping retarded. If you are clinging to the back of a stampeding horse, you don't try to hop off and get on another.
SAEI.OB It's simple really. The products of those sites are picks. Their NI 43-101s are the creds they glean from subscribers' testimonials that they made money off of those picks. Admittedly, some probably pump stocks they own and wish to dump and then short, or so the traders' workshops tell us. You don't see a lot of sites trying to build reputations by saving poor dumb investors because they fancy themselves as pseudo G-Men (what cops call whackers or "The Amber Light Squad") but there are a few out there, run by individuals who may be mentally ill with profit not being their main motive.
I don't consider paid PRs to be inherently bad. Some companies may need to sell shares to raise capital for any number of legitimate reasons. Those PRs create a good place to begin one's DD and may actually lead to good things eventually. Many immediately dismiss companies paying for PRs as scams, and some are, but if you never look for yourself you will miss many good opportunities.
Some sites are interested in gathering users from all over, with bringing together the information, rumors and sentiments that they have gathered elsewhere as their mission. Strategically, such sites are gold mines. That is where we find ourselves and patterns and insights are leading us to see that something big is brewing. The nature and rapidity of events seem to be indicating things of great significance. The slow grind of bureaucratic meanderings have thwarted attempts to develop these finds in the past. Like a laser, Supatcha is cutting to the center mass of the objective and making rapid headway. There are simply more and more positive clues...Far too many to ignore at this point.
Sites like this are also full of warnings that you may have to read between the lines to see. I am not talking about just the typical naysayers, but try to get a feel for where general sentiment lies. Common wisdom tells many traders that the chart "should" be ready for a pullback, because that is what they have seen happen before. As superstitious, ignorant and unscientific as that may be, it has to be reckoned with. If enough people believe in it, it will affect progress and may trigger a crash. Based on such beliefs, traders will avoid bidding up, sell quickly or take short positions. We ignore these tendencies at our own peril. You might have to be an idiot to sell now, but the world is full of idiots.
On a positive note, the company seems to be very aware of those pitfalls and is making the right moves to avoid them. Accurate and timely PRs, coupled with prompt adherence to promises, and unexpected bonuses like the buy back are a great way to rush the opposing team's defenses. The market has proven it's toxicity to the company and they are not willing to sit idly by and play the victim. I think it shows a confidence that has been exhibited from the very beginning, when they got that financing, in what they know to be a fantastic find. Our pitiful market cap is certainly not the engine that has driven these events. Those who ascribe much importance at all to how the stock has behaved in this venture are shortsighted and full of themselves.
Supatcha could break a lot of hearts this week. If we get beaten down for even a day or two, lots might lose their positions and overconfidence could blast some short traders. The company can read charts and hearts too. They are standing by to lower the float to nil if needs be, before the NI 43-101 slaps everybody back to reality. Most of the old longs have seen it before. The speed that this can move will wreck a newb's brain. It is so counter-intuitive to all we have learned as traders, but HOLD like you never held before. Just my sincere and well meant advice.
The MOD of the board who was pumping while dumping and then started shorting during the last run and subsequent plummet. Became a joke on the board for being "sick" the day of the reversal and then claimed that VERT was diluting as the reason why it all happened. Also known for some very colorful means of persuasion to get people to help pump. I don't even think there exists an IHub board where I could mention what those means were. The biggest problem, as far as I am concerned, is not the person but it's haters who follow looking to cause trouble.
SAEI.OB I have a photoshopped L2 with VERT on the BID and the ASK that I can post if she shows up. That should fix that problem. Just in case that doesn't work, I have some flu-ridden winos on tap to cough on my modem.
SAEI.OB Treat yourself and try for 5000 or so at opening bell Monday if there is an announcement before then. You could try to wait for a dip on the 15 min. if there is no news, but sometimes it doesn't pull back below opening. Monday should see it rise significantly. We just had a couple or three hundred percent on what is one of the slowest weeks of the year.
If you are very very fast, you might be able to flip some but always offer above the ASK when it is climbing if you want a sure fill. Many complain that they get filled below their bids. I really love the way we can pretty much ignore the red because it hasn't stayed that way long on this up trend. There are usually a few traders who don't know the stock who get flushed by the MM grabs so it can be a wild ride. The buys come in nicely without a lot of ASK slapping but that helps of course. When this is acting right there is no need to flip and it is just looking for stress to try it. Looking to get a whole lot greener.
If you like what you see, add more to that initial buy as the opportunities present themselves. By all means, hold until a couple of days after the NI 43-101 releases. That should carry us over a buck. After that, we will be awaiting the offers to come rolling in. When that happens, another 4 or 5 hundred percent is a fair estimate of where we would end up.
Half a Lexus for 800 bucks or so, is not a bad deal.
SAEI.OB Thank You Shere Kahn! Welcome back Jorge Negrete! I can't believe floyd4 sold today. Where is Say Hey Kid? I am so happy that we are all so stoked about this. Top board, new members...loving it!
3 Mines
2 NI 43-101s in a week or less
Excellent Officers
Best Board on IHub
Gold And Silver
An opportunity to advance democracy
Mine Infrastructure already in place
Fully reporting OTCBB company
Environmental Approvals Secured
Anxious and Reasonably Priced Local Work Force
Geological Data from earlier explorations
Drastically undervalued
New and Promising Drillings
Independent Analysis
STOCK BUY BACK
Well developed mining industry in the area already
Low Float
Ungagged TA
New Accountants
New Investor Relations
E Dropped
Solid Longs
High Board Marks
Website
Winter Production not a problem
JV offers
Reputation for being "a runner"
Excellent entry point right now
Upcoming meeting in March
Promoted by Ukrainian government
Recognition in world wide mining community
Gold keeps on rising
Sites close to major producing mines
The Market will open with a vengence next week
Silver supplies are almost depleted world wide
Currency in a tailspin
New investors appearing
Buzz is growing fast
Strategic Partnerships with well-connected Ukrainian businesses
Quite possibly a 20-40 bagger still in the making
What did I miss?
SAEI.OB We opened around .054 Monday and ended @ .163 today. I will stick with the back-of-envelope figure of +300%. Doesn't matter, the trend is up, we consolidated along the way and the day after Black Friday is traditionally bullish. I don't expect any significant pullbacks for a couple of more days. As I said right before the news came, "News shows and all bets are off."
I encourage all detractors to put their money where their mouths are, as we do, and short this stock @ .0001\share. Where there is a will there is a way. If they are not willing to do that then there is no substance behind THEIR hype. 'Nuff said.
SAEI.OB Nice 300% week, regardless of the predictions of some here each day. That is a real trendline, not a stupid pump. Board marks are up. N3WS is short term and they have come through on their word consistently. As more do the math, the shares are held tighter from an ever-decreasing supply that is available. We have Silver (the speculators' choice) and Gold the de facto standard for securing wealth. This company also loves surprises that opponents cannot combat.
On a historically dull day, we made very respectable gains. Spend the weekend smiling like a Cheshire Cat because we are gapping up Monday morning.
SAEI.OB LOL....LOL....LOL Sorry. LMAO....LOL .17 is in reach today.
SAEI.OB How is that working out for you so far? LOL
SAEI.OB Is a hot chick. People are going to talk about her. Rumors are just that until proven. What's that they say about rumors? 31 mins to get your piece of the pie.
SAEI.OB Lots of Flippers got out at .16. Let's teach them a lesson and finish well over that.
SAEI.OB Dings are for flippers. We'll get some BIG DONGS in here soon! LOL
I run my trading console on IE and avoid messing with Yahoo messages to keep that stable. I use Firefox for most of my BB stuff and IE for searches. I think the problems with FF may be in the Adobe add on container.
SAEI.OB I expect lots of stocks to issue news on Monday. Why put it out during a slow week? Lots of people will look at their watchlists and see us running but there will be lots of green then too. I am hoping the NI 43-101 comes out off-market hours so that people can salivate all night long and go freaking crazy all the way over a buck for the initial run. I don't see us becoming a NASDAQ stock all that soon. That takes a lot of paperwork and a certain term of performance. Doesn't really matter. Gold is gold.
It does that for me too. IHub and Firefox start racing my drives and I have to shut down. Or it just drags so slow that I type a message and then wander around for a while while I wait for it to show up in the editing box. I figured it was some of the ads in my freebie account. GTK it's not just me.
SAEI.OB In the SAEI Lexicon...........
Pessimist: One who has set his Sell price at $2.00\share.
SAEI.OB Looks flat...But I count that as very encouraging, because looking back a year on most stocks, (and I do mean MOST), this is typically a flat day. BUT! Monday it will rally nicely, "just because", that is what MOST do. Add in our sheer awesomeness and you have a rocket fueling on the pad right now.
Why bother flipping on a low volume day?
"On current supply/demand trends, the amount of above ground refined silver is projected to disappear completely in 2011."
SAEI.OB Whatever you decide, I think today is the day to load, Monday could get crazy early and never look back. Sell all of those oil stocks and put them into these plays for now. Employment is low, the dollar sucks and oil and gold demands have been moving in opposite directions. Oh and don't forget the silver in here either.
This guy has some things to say about that and explains why silver is the best performing asset class:
http://seekingalpha.com/article/238768-silver-the-best-commodity-investment-in-a-stimulus-driven-slow-recovery?source=email_the_daily_dispatch
truthhub is our silver expert.
SAEI.OB It's a bit early to tell how many are waiting to get in. I see board marks are much higher this week. "Moth Effect". We are beginning to get a lot of recognition. You are in competition for shares. Typcially, it races high and pulls back like most stocks. Wednesday it stopped acting so "typically". However, Monday it never got back down to opening price. The last news has had time to saturate the market a bit. Let's see where it goes.
If you are just daytrading it, then I suppose that matters more. If you are going to hold, not so much. Just don't stress as it moves very fast at times and slow at others...up and down.
SAEI.OB I was aware of some of those aspects but you took it to a whole new level. Excellent DD! We need more stickies here. The sheer volume of good info on Supatcha and the facts surrounding this find is growing exponentially as I am sure the PPS is to follow. Thank you for your efforts on all of our behalves.
As my message was not stock-specific and this is not a stock-specific board, I thought that discussion was open-ended. I have no desire to disrupt your board but have no access to your other organizational board. I just wanted to give you a heads up as he has already embroiled you in legal proceedings that you may or may not be aware of.
The stock that you refer to is very low float but I have singularly and steadfastly resisted the attempts to turn it into an FLD play. I have seen the damage that they do and believe they are simply a ploy to lure investors to a slaughter. The stock in question was severely harmed by pumpers who were actively promoting while dumping shares and subsequently shorting. It has taken a great deal of effort to salvage it now and much research, work and yes, even help from the company, which saw what had been done, went into the recovery .
I'm done here. Good luck and Happy Thanksgiving.
SAEI.OB Our new trend line looks wonderful. The next time we open, if it holds true to form, we should see $0.175 in short order. Higher everythings.
I don't know what Friday will bring, though. I hate these holidays and weekends, I guess you can all tell. I tend to flip out when the markets are closed. I can face a red day better than I can wait for opening bell.
SAEI.OB Per your PM: Very good.
I also filed here:
http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx
It is my belief that some were intimidated and alarmed and lost a large portion of their shares before the ruse was exposed. If that is the case, the offense has escalated far beyond what can just be shrugged off with chuckles, denials of intent or parries intended to deflect the blame back onto concerned individuals. This has serious legal implications and anybody who has been facilitating these activities should distance themselves immediately. Pranks or not, this is a board dedicated to helping those interested in SAEI and they deserve honest and sincere posts not vigilantism and false claims.
SAEI.OB Because I am the rightful heir of the King of the Cossacks and the true ruler of all lands west of the Dnieper.
I am the true leader of the Ukraine and an Angel investor. No contradictions at all.
Oops! You got me, Commissar! No more personal questions!
Just take my word for it. We got the loot for some shares covered.
http://www.smallbusinessnotes.com/financing/angelinvestors.html
SAEI.OB Were I to say that I was an Angel Investor, and supplied all or part of the funds for the buyback, it would be absolutely illegal for anybody here to solicit addition personal information from me nor would they be entitled to that information under United States' laws.
Case closed.
SAEI.OB Per your PM: I responded to that strange missing post of yours here:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57076168
I also told you that I don't ordinarily follow people around posting on stocks that I don't care to trade or feel are in competition with those that I own.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57073253
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57029977
See? Your posts are not something that I fear being seen. Please do not abuse my generous nature.
I don't know what happens to your messages. I stay pretty busy actually trading, doing research and trying to help people make money. Try staying on topic or better yet, tend to your own investments and we will tend to ours.
Here is but one of the presented pics found on the Supatcha website and it has been compositted with the sat photos that you called bogus.
SAEI.OB If somebody went to that ".org" and found links there for legitimate logos and doctored those logos to make oneself appear more threatening and then used those logos to intimidate people, people might make inquiries of that ".org" and be referred to the IC3 group to make a complaint about said doctored logos. IC3 is a purely criminal investigative arm set up to enforce international treaties and they reach out directly to local law enforcement to carry out their investigations. They tend to pick up equipment and the local wiz down at the police station will give it a going over. Try it! You'll like it!
SAEI.OB Hey guys, there will be fathers and moms with sons and daughters sitting and trading on Friday morning so they can teach the kids and show them what fun this is. This could gap up then because we know it will gap up Monday. Save a few bucks, really, and load up now before the craziness. Expect some wild stuff soon.
...and keep that 200DMA below us and pointed the direction that we want to go.
SAEI.OB We are not settling for red today. The door looks unlocked to .15 if we just knock loud.
SAEI.OB Slapping for truth, justice and sending shorts on their way!
Partial fill @ .125
SAEI.OB Fact is, the company has been pzz'd about the PPS for a long time now. That is why they got the new accountants, the new IR firm, the new PR deals that are still to be exploited, the ... well, why bother? You aren't interested in facts. Just sit over there and wait.
I have my doubts about the idea that they are doing it solely for the shareholders. Hmm, let me see? If I had billions of dollars in gold and investors leaving piles of messages at the front desk wanting to give me money, would I want to help a bunch of people who thought it was worth pennies or would I want to get as much of it for myself as possible? I have said it from the minute that I saw the buyback PR and before, (Ask New) I think we are privileged to get any shares of this fantastic find and shareholders are superfluous in light of the discoveries. You have to get what you can while you can and forget about those too dim to see the light.
They probably know that that $3 million dollars spent on shares now is worth hundreds of millions later on.
SAEI.OB Exploration companies deal with those issues as a matter of course. The PRs delineated their approach to those issues and should be read by any potential investors. We can assume that infill drilling has also been accomplished as was stated and which is a prerequisite for proper NI 43-101 preparation. Those documents will address concerns of that nature. Please try to exercise a bit more patience and rationality. As you spend more time here, your knowledge and confidence will grow. Hyperbole is not necessary. Of course gold doesn't just flow out of the ground. Priceless...LOL