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That's no matter how it looks, the PPS it will go up, is to much money involved in order for AVVAA to DIE. Yes, but don't get me wrong I get frustrated TOO. I think that BCSC will clear the CTO very SOON, If not this week probably tuesday after the holiday, I do not think that it will take more than that for BCSC to clear it when everrything is IN(just my opinion) but is not other way around.
Buster, What I see is two maipulation, as you said one for NIR when they received there shares, and try to sell it to make the money back, and the other will be by AVVAA in order to pay NIR, Because if they do not do that the numbers of shares that they have to pay NIR it won't be enough, and AVVAA it won't raised enough money to go foward. We need to remember that they are 20 MIL down plus they need money to move foward. As they said they need money to do the product, marketing, ETC. But for sure the price will go up.
What I want to say, assuming that they have to get the CTO revoked before NOV 30th, Because first they do not want to pay the 100 thousand to extended, the files are due again and for sure that NIR DO NOT WANT TO WAIT EITHER. So I am hoping to see it VERY SOON.
The one thing that I have to say to you guys, is I know that you guys did not invest $ 3 Mil as NIR have with AVVAA right now. And they accept the terms to get shares from AVVAA. So we should feel confortable that something good is going to happen, because they want the money back also, Even sometimes it get frustrated to wait. Assuming
IF is does not happen on Monday, I believe it will happen next week. Now we can say that all the ducks are line up, Like you said the one that is missing is to pay the fine, And for all the effort that they put already is a MUST to get revoked the CTO. That include for the company, directors and nir,So everybody is pushing for the same GOAL.So hope for the BEST
I forgot one major detail. They need to start paying EVERY WEEK, So CTO must be revoked pretty SOON in order for AVVAA to start paying.
Yes, Bottom line the CTO has to be revoked, And it will happen SOON, Because nobody is going to accept to get pay in shares if they are not sure that they are going to get the money back, regardless is the shares are prefered or not. Because the company has not money or assets to get the money to pay back. this people are the farley's with 300 MIL shares, Brennan with 100 MIL shares and NIP. So this people are on the same boat than US, let's see if they want to loose there own money. I do not think that we have to worry about it.
Buster, I do not know where did you see it, because I was looking and is not way to be found.
You need to see it for a diferent view. Starting if the company it will accept shares for the amount that AVVAA owe is because they think that they will get there money back, Now paying every week by shares means that the price is going to start flactuating, So it will be good for US, So overall is a good news for us
Hope that AVVAA solve the sued for good tomorrow, And see any kind of light.
This is what I put before, because I thought that was 2010 when I was reading it, And I did not pay attentionn because the date of the news was 9/24 But as I say in my last post 9/24 that I correct myself because this is a 2 month old news.this news was posted on 7/26 2010.
Just to replay to myself,I thought that I was reading May 2010 on marketwatch, because the date of the article was september 24th(today) 2010, I never thougth that they were behind 2 month on the article, because they were talking about May 2009 files. I guess no enlightment for now.
Just to enlight the weekend, AVVAA just filed the ending of the year MAY 2010. Hope that It will be a good next week; We are be waiting for so long.
Jason, for what I read you are right, Now my question in this matter is, Why the BCSEC did not lifted when AVVAA did the files until FEB 2010 on AUG the 9th when the ending year of this company is MAY 31st, so still they had 22 more days to do the ending year file?
Just to answer to you and Jason, First you guys rely to much on Merle, that he does NOT has the power to do or communicate anything about the company, HE ia only PR PERSON (PEON) for the company, saying that you guys are wasting your time when you talked to him( this is my personal opinion)thinking that you are going to get an explanation for your Question. Now about the CTO, If we remember, the CTO start in October when AVVAA get sued by NIP, and the reason that they stop the trade was because of the sued, NOT because they were behind on files, saying this; the sued was about shares and the only way that they can reslved the problem is to put a CTO in Canada where the company is located to avoid any major issue. So as I say before until the sued is not resolve the CTO it won't be lifted, Regardless what Merle said or has to say
Sales and marketing are different from the cease trade. For sure that they are selling there products as many people know they still buying from the web site. Now the cease trade it won,t be resolve until the sued is been accepted by the 2 sides. For a positive point, Like I said before everybody is going to get pay in shares, So for sure that everybody want there money back, And AVVAA need it to market there products and move foward, So the PPS it will go up.
We have to see the sued settle (closed) and then, We will see the PPS going up.
I believe the problem is not the audit, probalbly is already OK by the BCSEC, As you said they only ask for 2009 audit, and right now they are Feb 2010. The problem is that they won't revoked the cease trade until the sued( court case) is been accepted by both parties. So I hope that the date that you said 9/17 or somebody said 9/27 will be the end of the court case.
I do not know if you are seeing it as I do, AVVAA can not wait two years, Because they will run out of time. Now I believe that it will reach the price of .02 or even higher but it won't stay at that price for long; And like you said, After a while it will reach that price again and the price it will move according to the sales. Like BW said patience, because we will get that price soon.
Just to put a good note, In reality is not WAY that the company is going to disappear before the cease trade is overturn. As I said before NOBODY it will accept shares if they know that it will happpen before they sell there shares and GET there money back.Because they did NOT make this big deal for nothing. I feel confident that the PPS is going to go up as soon the sued is over. For the other positive side AVVAA need to sell there shares to raise money in order to be a float. So for what I am reading in a small site(if is true) Sound like the weak hands are selling there shares not to loose more money,But that shares it will run out SOON. DO NOT GET ME WRONG I GET FRUSTRATED TOO, WHEN I SEE THE PPS GOING DOWN. But I won't go nowhere until I see the PPS at .02
I put a post yesterday about the behave of the trade, today same somebody sell/buy 201000 shares at .001 and later on somebody buy/sell 201000 at .0011, Can we put are brain together and get some ideas about this behave that is been for a while. Because I can not figure out.
According to the BCSEC AVVAA can not sell any shares, and is not smart for them to sell at that price because they need to raise money. Same with NIP, Because they want there money back.
If somebody is shaking the PPS so the people that bought at this price sell?. But the volume is not been enough to do that worth it. People from Canada, the majority average more than this and can not sell either. So I do not understand why somebody is hammering th price down and the reason why? Any thougths
For what we been thru with AVVA, We learn that they need to do the files in order to be in complience with BCSEC. Now if I recall well the cease start with the sued, So my opinion even if they gave the papers to BCSEC, AVVAA it won't get out of the cease until they closed the case. So hopefully they closed the case before 9/29 as somebody mentioned that it will be the next date in court. My thoughts is that is already agree what both parties agree on, But i guess they need to go in front of the judge.
In today's trade, somebody open with 5000 shares at .0011, second trade 400000 shares at .001, third trade 140000 at .0011 forth trade 130000 shares at .001 and two minutes later 275000 shares at .001 that adding the first two and the last two, they have the same amount of shares. So basically sound like the person put 405000 shares to sell an was bought by two differents trades. Sound very confusing and still do not get the purpose or the motive of it. Any thoughts?
Iam with you the PPS can be manipulatde and can get any price that the buyers believe is worth it. Just to enlight your day check what happpen with DMGM on friday for no reason that I know.
where do you read that?
Buster, you are saying that for the last 2 month. Is three things to have in consideration.
1. The bones is been removed.
2. Audit is been done until this year already.
3. All the big dogs are getting pay with shares.
So, AVVAA is NOT going to do all that work for nothing, was much easier to kill the company from the beginning; And the big dogs are not going to accept shares if they know that the company is going to go down. They accepting shares because they know that are going to get there money back. Now shoud be nice to know at what price they closed the deal. I am assuming between .01 and .02. That was the price before the suit was made.It will be a good ride for US, Because they haveto manipulated the price at that level or higher to get there money back.
YES, this is what I am seeing, I do konw is buster is seeing it.
If i am not mistaken, The trade time is national regardless in which zone you are located
AVVH still has the warning sign on pinksheets
Right now that the status is been removed nobody is going to sell at loss So I guess that we need to wait until the big dogs they ready to maniulate the price so it will go higher and try to sell there shares. In a positive note we are getting there.
I see for a different point of view, After reading the last md that Jason send, It will be efficient, cost effective and easier for AAVVA to rech customers talking to the gromming companies, Because at this point AVVAA is reaching the grommers and there loyal customers. I think is a very good marketing strategy.
If I am not wrong, what you said is only part of the hold.Because the other part of the hold was the SUED by new millenium; according to the audit even if the BCSEC accept the audit, they need to wait until both parties (AVVAA and new millenium) accept the amount of shares to closed the case, Because right now is a disputed about the accepting price of the share. But like I said before, everybody is getting paid in shares, So as soon that they closed the case the price will go up for multiple reason.
AVVAA need to raise capital
The other entities will try to raise the pps to get the money back.
So bottom line I think the price to meet there goals is a round .02 to .03, We already wait for more than a year what is 1 more month?.
But I am pretty sure that will we get it.
The reason what is not remove yet,
Is because in the audit said even that the case is closed they did not agree on th price of the pps yet.So I assuming that they are doing the 30 average price to get the numbers of shares straight; and that's what I think that they try to put share down so they can get more shares on the setlement. That is the only thing that make sense that regardless, the price go down to .0012, I am guessing that is the price that they are looking for.
If you go to avvaa web site and go to new releases, the first one is dated on July 26th and is 3 lines showing documents, You need to click on the second line where it said audit.
Reading the report, they were on red about 35MIL and now is 21MIL. For the other side the FARLEY'S put some money to pay some debt and now they're been paid by shares.Just to make it CLEAR they're never been DEBT FREE.
Reading the audit, the common sense why are selling low, The only explanation that I see is the case with new millenium is not closed yet and still they are fighting for the amount of shares that they will take for the setlement and is depend of the average price. Now saying this new millenium is the company that is selling low so the average price will go down and they will get more shares. Now for them to loose $600 and gain X amount of millions of shares it will be benefit for new millenium. Now we know that AVVAA is down 21 MIL and counting, and every debt is been paid in shares including the FARLEY'S. Saying this we have a big amount of shares that this people has on hand that they will manipulate the stock to get the money back, and in the other hand we have the new management with 21 MIL in debt that they need to raise that amount with the shares that they have on hand in order to move foward. Saying this; Is going to be a good time for US the holders, Because both groups they will manipulate the shares to get as much money that they can get. So I am assuming that after the hold is over I believe that the price it will go up from .002 to whatever. And the reason that I say minimum price of .002 is because the amount of shares that AVVAA has on hand with that price it will raise the money that they need to get out the hole.
AVVH release the info and put it in there web site, Because they do not have power to post it somewhere else, is opt to the others finance or news company that follows the release and post it on there own space. Just to let you know that finance.aol.com release the news and post it yesterday under AVVH quote.s
Just a comment, The last trade was 150 shares at .0012 (.18) CENTS transaction. Think about this? Somebody is playing or WHAT?
I know is very frustrated to see the same on the daily basis, But they won't communicate until they fix the problem with the BC SEC. Right now the game is to wait regardless of the PPS, Because they will take care the PPS as soon they fix the problem with the BC SEC in order for them to raise money with the shares that they have and try to move the company foward, and that is when we have to be careful; because at that moment if they do not sell there products you can say that the company it will be in trouble; but for now we are safe because they are going to try to make it happen. If not the company should be closed long time ago.
Buster, the only thing that I will be disagree with you is the pps. I will be more positive and my price it will be between .03 to .05. The reason is with the price that you gave them it will NOT be enough money to pay the bills and do the marketing campaign.