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Wow! I never that . I appreciate the explanation. It's pretty obvious
How desperate they . Just look at the ihub web page.
The piggy back factor on the marijuana
Legalization in some states. As if the grow lights really are a viable business.
Whatever news they can jump on. No class whatsoever. The photos on
The I hub page are ridiculous . Very tacky!
I appreciate all the text back and forth about this company. , but us anyone at all concerned TVA
this PR business and promises to we the investors us illegal?
It's obvious that many make a little here and there on PRs
But what about the fact that if this company can continue to lie to its investors
Why is it alright ?
I thought there were laws to protect investors?
I'm growing very tired if the banter between nay Sayers and cheerleaders .
When it's all said and done how is it that there creeps can
Cheat people with lies? I want this company to be successful
However I think it's primary owners and PR people do nothing more than
Chest .
Certainly I don't need to be a stockholder but I was
one of the naive purchasers way back ten years ago.
I would like my money back.
I have never in 12 years seen PR come to fruition.
I think investors should pull together and seek legal intervention.
In sum these creeps will just continue to chest us in this company and
All the others they will continue to create until they are
Brought to justice. Oh yea, it's just my opinion .
Certainly I don't want to be sued by this bunch of liars.
It just makes me sick that these guys get away with this .
Grego is correct! Time for some crazy PR about some new development or billion dollar contract.
Such crazy stuff. I too have shares but all the claims are empty. They have never produced a single
Item as claimed.
Phone cards, grow lights , street lights, , power disk. Now Mars space station .
Where and how do you get this information?
Of course they claim to be involved in LED s . Who knows they claim to have millions
In orders and contracts for many things. That's why we all keep buying this stock.the only problem is they seem to talk if all these things that shomd make all if us rich. However
I've never once seen anything they claim be legit.
In fact I'm surprised that the SEC allows thee guys to to continue to operate.
I spoke to both Uli and Farid. They both promise the same thing
It's very odd that Apollo and Viper are the same two guys saying the same thing. Oh yes, then there is Scott Gibson. All promise the same things but never Had any of the promises turned out to be more than a made up
Line. Grego us certainly correct. I do wish he was wrong but he's only reports what Viper actually does.
Pump/ dump for 10 years . An amazing scam . I bought in 10 years ago and it believed the lies for the first 5 years. Just trying to get back the lost investment.
I probably paid for Farids new bathroom remodel.
I'm longtime holder of Viper Networks. I was lured in on the BSNL phone cards many years ago.
I purchased lots of shares of Viper at much more than it's currently trading for.
Like many others I kept purchasing thinking I found a gem.
I'm still holding all those shares which are almost worthless.
I still cannot understand why Farhid and Scott are not in jail yet?
Thanks for the encouraging post!
I'll keep buying!
I was actually excited when I heard from the person at Apollo today. So the truth is that the actual
Postings they put out are all crap?
It sounds odd that all the other things done by Viper have never came to light. Do you really think this is all phony? I never read about Uli I guess I should.
I called Apollo this morning and asked a simple question to a man named Uli.
I asked if Viper Networks had any ownership of Apollo .His immediate response to me was that Viper
Owns 49 per cent of the company.
I hope this is good news?
Thanks for the information . I can appreciate the enthusiasm however they have done nothing.
I only wish one of the hundreds of things they claiming would happen.
Greg
What's going on there with viper?
So many longtime holders of this stock have.
Been promised things and often lied to by the CEO.
It's just frustration.
Where did you get this information? I've owned
This stock for almost 10 years. They sold phone cards
powerDisk , led lighting ,marijuana lighting.
They have promised to produce audited financials
And in 4 years never produced.
I would love to believe the information
You posted . I'm curious how you got it ?
Thanks
Anyone know why viper went up to 1.3 this morning on a 10000 purchase?
Is so many people are so distrustful of Viper and the information they post, why do they continue to be able to stay listed? Why has the SEC allowed them to throw out crazy stories claiming to be on the verge of becoming ta volcano stock. I know there's a chill but out right lies . Is that possible in this day and age with so any regulators?
25500 post to this board. Bashing and pumping like I ve never witnessed before. Whatever
This company has it sure is good at keeping the its shareholders on edge at all times.
I don't know what to believe, but with all the people involved in this board. Has anyone ever been to any office of Apollo or Viper? It would be good to know that they even exist.
Is Scott Gibson a real person ?
I mean can a company get way with 10 plus years of deception without being stopped by the SEC?
Has anyone ever confirmed the MasTec deal? I own a good chunk of Viper and have so for many many years.
I'm still waiting to collect my original investment from ten plus years ago.
There's no question that I followed the regular PR releases about the company. I thought the phone card business was a sure thing?
Never have seen the audited financials? So once again does anyone have proof that VIper and MasTec have any relationship?
Thanks
Me Too!
Another Pump and Dump
Please! It's only a joke .I've heard nothing like the rest of the stockholders. Just very frustrated about getting lured by Viper and the pathetic promises.
Scott! Farid ! It's time for a new PR.prices are slipping. Is it true that Viper is buying Tesla and oracle next Monday?
Been on board very long myself. Never thought I would be still be holding Viper for so long.
Wish something could pan out . I never day traded or tried to make money on Viper the way many investors do . I bought it for over $1.00 per share. Needless to say , this has been very disappointing
. I cannot help but feel that there have been many misleading promises from the owners.
I'm holding on ere hoping like many others that these people are trying to really create a successful business.
Greg
Well said! I bought in 10 years ago at over 1 dollar per share. I never thought I would be in a sub envy stock 10 years after the fact.i held my shares hoping to see it go back up to $1.00 again . I have ever invested so much energy into a stock before. I left it alone for several years . when the talk about BSNL started I thought I would get my money back.
Then the power disk and then appolo.
now I m just waiting to see if anything that might actually come into play?
I want to see at least one thing happen. With all these possible opportunities it would be nice to see the possible
Maybe I should buy more Viper so I can own the entire company for $100.00.
Well said ArchieK! I agree with you .
Too many things never completed and way too many excuses. I've been waiting to see audited financials
Calling cards , orders from Sri Lanka, Powerdisk .
I have shares of Viper dating back 10 years. I paid too much to let them go as a sub penny .
This board is so interesting. Several angry bashers, many day traders and some very supportive followers who refuse to question any of the many things promised by Farid.
Thank you for your honesty.
This is the most interesting board ever. Angry investors and happy cheerleaders. Does anyone really understand what's going on with Viper I would like to be on the side of the cheerleaders but after being in Viper for 10 years I understand people's anger. So many people forget the lack of communication over the years True we receive great PR' s every four months. Who actually knows what the heck this company is about?
Oh yea then we have the day traders making money on the crazy swings in value .
I don't know what to beleive about VIper.
It would be great to see some financials that have been promised for years.
I would like to see more proof about the direction of Viper . It's nice that we get a response from the CEO but why were we not able to hear this information while it was happening? why not provide some to appease the shareholders ? It's understandable that its a good thing to get others to pay for pilot projects. Why not tell the stockholders ? I was getting very angry about the lack of information and horrible performance of Viper.
So many cheerleaders!i want to see some return on a long term investment . Been waiting 10 years now.
I'm a sucker for the P R's
Why has the SEC not been involved? I too question as to how a company can make these crazy public statements . Take people's money and then never produce a finished product and then release a new press release about something completely different?
I understand the possibility of the loses from the SEC taking action but, is it not best to have some action taken against Scott and Farid ? Where I come from people would be charged for criminal activity and punished.
I hate getting scammed!
Anyone know where these guys live?
Not too much left! Where are we going from here.
Do you feel the SEC has been contacted abbout this company.? I have called the Viper on munerous occassions only to get a private persons cell phone saying hello? No mention mention of Viper . Very secretive about the the comnpany. I called The P.R firm three weeks ago and was told to be prepared that week for some great news. I think we are paying for someone childrens private school tuition.
i FEEL L.IKE A GREEDY SUCKER.
I have been a owner of Viper for several years. I was sucked in on a regular basis to buy buy buy. I put in over $10000.00 so far. It all beagn when viper split years ago. I paid $1.81 per share. Today I would be a millionaire if Viper was worth.25 cents. My luck and knowledge with market has been very poor. Imusually on the losing end of the market. My feelins are that if something were to pan out the directors would be very anxious to let all of us know. I feel as though I put lots of trust in a company that has bad intensions for iys stock holders. I have called Viper and I get a person who answers with a hello not Viper Networks. The calls are always very odd. As if Im calling someones personal cell phone.
The lack of communication from the company has me concerned enough to feel as though the SEC should deal with Viper.
Your Thoughts?
Great answer. Makes total sense to me.
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Thanks
Thanks for the information. I really appreciate it.
GREG
I dont understand why the stock continues to go south on good news? Or why do people sell for so little gain?
I dont understand why the stock continues to go south on good news? Or why do people sell for so little gain?
Thanks ! I appreciate the number. I called and put in a [phone number and it did indeed work. I never asked for info, but at least I know there is a phone number. I still worry about the trend of the stock. Up down up down.
I should read the Boards more often. Called Mr. Rich Kaiser today. When I reached him on the phone he said I no longer handle VPER . I asked for another number and he gave me no name 407-444-5959. The number rings to a voice machine with the message" Leave your number and messag." Not a very reassuring sign of an operational company with $$$$$$ or future contracts. I may be wrong , but It sure seems odd not to ave a person answer providing customer service and company information if requested. I hope people are paying for cards and receiving them.
I have been a long standing holder of this stock, but I really feel the company owes the stockholders more than just a few PR'S now and then. Especially since they never pan out.
Anyone have any concrete knowledge of the truth about Viper?
Wow! Why the up/down everyday? I love the fact that some good news
has benn circulating, but what causes the huge changes in price?
thanks