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I agree that it will no doubt shave a few pennies off any run. I’m not confident that Val has what it takes to do a buyback VS start another project, or even max out the OS. I’ve come to not trust Val’s common sense when it comes to managing other people’s time and money. His efforts are scattered in way too many places. He needs to realize that it doesn’t hurt to slow down and listen to your investors.
He’s got a couple of nice things going, but he keep blindsiding us with new projects, while the old one’s linger on and on. That cell phone and Ipad for instance has great potential, but watch him screw it up with yet another delay. It is time for him to start acting like the fugal CEO t people claims he is. He wants to do too much too fast.
If the geeks are looking at this, then we’re actually on to something, so let’s get those phones and pad on the market Val!!!
A better question is why aren't they buying...the stock is down on low volume.
Oh yeah, if there are shorters, (I doubt that there are) they have been hearing this same thing for 17 months, and clearly are not scared on any idle threats about this thing taking off any time soon. This dog won’t hunt. Every time it tries to get up off the porch, the CEO kicks it with another dumping spree. Dude is sitting on a pocket full of “get out of jail free cards”, and an extended date to introduce the cell phones and Ipad by December 2012.
Val appears to operate by two speeds, slow and slower. Whatever happened to the one hundred million loans from last year that suckered in a ton of investors? Don’t hear anything about that anymore. All is forgotten and moved on to the bank deal, the cell phone deal and the prepaid card that was supposed to be our savior. What about the municipal bond in the DR for 25 grand? The guy is full of more crap than a Christmas turkey. Don’t know about anyone else, but I’d like to see my money back in my account before the end of the month, and returns on my investment by the middle of next month. Now there is something to buzz to….LOL
Just watch, as soon as the PPS makes it back to the double digits, Val will be licking his chops. He will dump again and again.
What exactly does this mean? Not a likely expression in my hood.
My bad..that was suppose to be late summer. But either way, there will be an issue.
Nothing to buy in that explanation, unless he is joking. Even a child knows better than to think that it would take as long as Val took to fix store and obtain a business permit. The bottom line is that Val has a lot of shareholders to hide behind, and he is taking full advantage of that, as anyone in his position would. Note that he never comes forward with anything of substance or anything factual. It has always been, “we will” and not we did. I keep telling you, 1.1 or maybe 1.2 billion shares is a lot of money, and he has clearly blown most of it.
I will continue to bet my life that there will be a problem with the cell phones and Ipad by summer. This guy is full of it. Don’t I hear someone call him a clown? Every see clown shoes? Some awfully big shoes to fill aren’t they.
Val’s problem is that he is on his time schedule and could care less about what the investors’ expectations are for this to show progress.
So how many dates pushed forward would that make? And what after that date? Don't you see where this has come from, and where it is going? Like Charlie said, nothing stopping him from doing an increase in the AS. After all, they all do.
December 2012? So the dates keep getting pushed up because of his incompentence!!! Screw that, what about getting this done by Oct. 2012. Enough is enough. All he had to do was hire some compentent people and we wouldn't be here!!! And if this wasn' slow enough, he is now , jerking around with more stuff and no money. RS I bet ya.
Doesn't change the facts....The company has been a no show for the past 2 years. I'd like to think that better days are coming,but I'm in the show me mode. To date, all I've been shown is how well Val can unload shares. He has stopped answering my email because of the hard question I ask, for which he has no logical answer.
If your comment is true, then OTOW has had 2 years to prove it. The only thing doing well is the dumping. The card announced in January and still no revenue reported, however the claim to generate a bundle of income has been put out there. My account has suffered a terrible lost and I’m to believe that better days are coming? LMAO….Believe it when I see it.
About that store…okay, so Val has a business permit after over a year and 1.1 billion shares under the bridge. So what has he earned for that simple task, a cookie? Point being, this whole thing has been a failure thus far. He announces a project that some take the average person a few months to complete, but it takes him over a year. “Val not a scammer”. No, probably not but how is one suppose to tell the difference between a scammer and an incompetent individual when the results are the same?
I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m ready to start seeing a return on my money, and the CEO dubbed a clown isn’t saying a word. Go figure!!!
I wouldn’t go bragging until the doors opened. It took this man over a year to obtain a business permit for a place not much larger than a Florida fruit stand…LMAO 1.1 billion shares sold and all we have to show for it is a prepaid card with phantom revenue and a phone store not much larger than a roadside fruit stand.
You mean if he ever opens the door....Been over a year and still the door remains closed.
Of course I have!!! Where do you think the following quote came from?
Of course I have!!! Where do you think the following quote came from?
Val has to understand that many of us have been coming here for 17 months, watching our investment decline while he start project after project and not get a single one complete. This crap has gotten way too old. Enough of the “I’m trying to grow a company BS”. Grow the damn company already, and don’t start another damn thing until you can show some results on the crap you still have in the fire. Honestly, enough is enough. Hire some help; including someone with the brain power to get the things done that you have thus far failed to do.He tells us that we’re on the cusp of a turn around,and then dump 100 million shares….LMAO. some turn around!! I would bet my life that those cell phones and Ipad will not be out by late summer as he said.
When has he ever been on time, if at all a show?
OTOW NEVER BOUGHT BACK 500 MILLION SHARES!!!!! IT WAS 50, YET YOU KEEP INSISTING THAT IT WAS 500 MILLION!!!! VAL RETURNED 500 MILLION BACK TO THE TREASURY, BUT THAT IS NOT THE SAME IS IT?
I won’t look this gift horse in the mouth, so thank you for stopping by the location and reporting back to us.
Ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The cell phones and Ipad should take even longer.
At this point, my humanitarian side is shut off, and my investor side has taken over. While I appreciate anyone who would take care of an aging parent, that is not the issue or the topic here. Val has to put more effort in to communicating effectively and honestly to his investors. This is not to say that the man isn’t honest, but it is to say that no one can communicate his thoughts and actions better. He leaves his investors in the dark for too long, and once he does decide to communicate, he falls short on his forecasts.
Dear Pete,
As of the close of business on 07/27/2012, the outstanding shares for O2 Secure Wireless, Inc. was 1,060,603,284.
Regards,
Ana Muñoz
I strongly with this post!!!
Whats the difference...when does a delay become just a flat out lie? That store was to open a year ago. To have opened it in Oct., Jan., or even April would be considered a delay, but to come back a year later, PR yet another date and them leave the country....that is a lie pal!!!
For the sake of avoiding exaggeration, I will only address those times that I’m absolutely sure about. Twice he has told me that he had some notes to convert, but he actually was selling. I’ve also received 2 or 3 different dates that the store will open and that has yet to happen. I know that things don’t always go as expected, but it seems that nothing goes as expected with Val.
As the old saying goes, “Poor planning on your part should not constitute hardships and disparity on my part. EMZ I just want to see the man finally deliver or stop telling us that he will. Hell just surprises me and keep quiet until them.
I've actually started to wonder. He returned from the DR and started dumping like there was no tomorrow.
I hope that Val wasn't lying to you, as he have to me in the past.
In spite of our differences, I respect a person who put their money where their mouth is and that you do. Moreover, I hope Val can put something together that will make you/us all extremely well off, if not rich.
Is he trying to open the store there instead, seeing how he cannot get it open in Florida?
Knew what it was on the close Wed. but haven't checked since.
Wonder how many road trips that have been made to that unopened spot over the past year? Save your money...the store is not open.
I'm starting to see it the same way. I've lost respect for the guy also. He has lied to me, and that is where I draw the lind.
What was the outstanding share count at the close of yesterday?
And once again, I will ask the questions that should be obviously made by this seemingly incompetent CEO. What especially could you possibly be raising money for after all this time of accomplishing nothing? What damn equipment? You make it sound as though he has some kind of operation going! Well if he has, we have yet to see it! The new OS count should be around 1.1 billion and he has yet to show a thing for it. I can say what I don’t see, but no one can say what they see. I would be surprise to not see a reverse split in the near future after all of this.
Should the mentioning of a reverse split can be labeled as being irresponsibility, first consider the lack of results that this man has yet to provide his shareholder. Yeah lots of promises, but nothing worthwhile that has been completed. What a prepaid card that is obviously not producing a nearly the numbers that he touted early on. Oh, and a small retail store that he has been trying to get opened for a year now. Do you recall that the announcement to open that store in the late summer? Sound familiar right? Of course it does! The cell phones and I pad is supposed to makes its debut this late summer….LMAO
The OS has climbed another 100 million since his last dump at the end of June, so how do you explain that? It’s him increasing the OS by selling is how you explain it!
Goods for services is just another way of dumping Surreptitiously ...LOL. Just not putting it out on the open market where investors can see it right away. Offer the goods for services now, and see the results as you have been seeing today and yesterday. Now that is what you call watching and learning.
Preliminary approval is nothing more than one of those preapproval credit that you receive in the mail that states that “YOU HAVE BEEN PREAPPROVED”. But then comes that actually qualification round….LMAO. OTOW hasn’t been approved for squat!!!
All set on that knowledge thing partner… level 2 only determines what’s good immediately. It all has to come from Val my friend, just a question of when and how. Let’s check out the OS in a few days and see where we’re at.
Maxed out AS is next...
Well this will put us over the billion mark for sure! Val really giving it to us up the back. 700 million and nothing to show for it. Guess the prepaid card isn't picking up any expenses as he stated.....
Dumpfest is all. Val at it again!!!