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ok the daily is falling here after then run but the good news is that last push crossed an important fan line 4 more to go though...
now it will most likely ride it down a bit and consolidate. there is support around 1.50 though it could tag under briefly as a shake. best case is it hold 1.54 and forms a flag. that would be nice.
the weekly is showing some overbought signs, but plenty of macd room to rise. that speaks to consolidation. more flatness as shares churn around this level. but i would venture to say 1.50 will become a good base and it will not fall under again, of course news dependent.
monthly is still strongly on our side. and hourly looks good too. also showing some consolidation but very soon it will be ready to push again which supports the falling daily. flat on down cycles is nice and normally means up on up cycles.
1.65 seems to be a close resistance so thats the channel now: 1.50 to 1.65 imo. need weekly psar (1.77 now) to flip. then its the 1.90/2 resistance with 1.65 or so as support. but thats after this consolidation or next news.
couldnt one also say to find out what owvi is really worth try buying some shares on monday? just saying, but this is an exchange so something is only worth what you can buy or sell it for. and yes if everyone only sells to test worth, worth is lower. conversely if everyone only tries to buy to test worth it is higher.
so you need to do both to see true value.
and yes its a game, but we decide how to play and if we win or lose. and worth is dependent on time as well. you say monday, fine but what about december? or next year? or in the past?
today it was 'worth' 7 but was that 7 good for the one who sold or the one who bought?
(edited) someone tag 8 and make alamo happy :), erm happier...
lets note, 8 does not make me happy either. however it does give hope to support what i am seeing for next week. still in a down turn monday so its key that 7 holds. but tuesday could very well see hourly and daily turn up with weekly still showing up thanks to todays close.
but i was hoping to have an 8 bid by now/monday so we may not see the break i want until closer to the 18th.
of course 7 is bad, anything under 30 imo is bad. but from the perspective of this current move 7 on a 7/8 spread would not be bad to go into the next cycle.
isnt bad does not equal good. i was hoping today would end at 8/9, now it doesnt even look like 7/8 which is bad. but even bad things can turn good so we will see.
i only regret my timing.
oh and to those who play these games, would be great for next week if we end at 8 :) though 7 isnt bad so long as the spread stays this way but that is pretty obvious anyway no?
the current 6 is not showing happiness.... well its still showing pinch forming but would extend the timeline and i know how we all feel about that.
still looking 16th, though may extend to 18th with current action.
and there is an example of how someone just had to sell a couple mil shares and they were more than happy to move pps down for bid action. amazing how that is followed by the spread moving up once the order has gone through.
just goes to show again that mms can see every order you put in and will take advantage of it.
now whoever obtained those shares, mostly at 7, could of taken that person out at 8 and instead. now there is potential to slip back, but who knows those 5mil as buys at the ask could of upticked to 9, a 2 point move, just like the 5m bought yesterday moved from 6 to 8. then the new owner would be green instead of even or red.
its a game. and in the long run it wont matter as those buying know all these shares will be worth much more but for now its just another interesting example how this works. those with patience get the reward. whoever bought had more and made the sale come to them. if the one selling had more well they could of gotten more per share as evidence by the spread.
chart thoughts, first a thought (note opinion only). news is good, if it pans out this one sounds really good. 1m shares is not much when there is currently 75m, very little dilution.
ok here goes:
there was a nice run recently, went right up near where i called. hope some made money. the monthly chart shows some weakness but also showing it may near the end of said weakness. would of been nice if this month held as it would of confirmed a reversal, now does not look like it yet. last move bounced on a monthly resistance line. plus there is the last fib fan line it is deal with. once that breaks it may be ready to reverse.
about to enter a new time zone so it may take time to turn. the next isnt until around may so hopefully this one is up right?
weekly still says it may move up and support is holding atm so that is good. but i do not see it happening and needing another cycle. but that may even be before the end of the year.
daily is crashing after that run. key supports are .03 which it is losing and then .02 which i think it hits before turning. shame it went so low again, really thought that .045 would hold or at least .03 but there is still a chance it bounces back over. really want over .03 as that is the monthly support. on one hand it is risky when under this, on the other it can be rewarding as it should regain it... that said i do see .02 coming and it may take until the end of the month to turn. no sign it will not hold though which is good.
hourly supports this theory, should know today or monday if .03 has a chance. but it does suggest .02 will hold and a nice consolidation will form. that is always good. strong support after testing resistance is good. resistance falls and support crosses lines, the more lines crossed the weaker resistance is next time. srwy is nearing the end of major line crossings so if it keeps this up one of the next up cycles should have very little resistance and if news supports could make a nice move, plus by then the monthly may be showing up as well which is always nice.
time will tell, will check around end of month.
oh good only another -10 to go before its ready to run up to the high positives just like last time. still thinking around the 16th. we get another day like today on friday and monday and we will be all ready to move. just add in some news and watch smartscan say the same :)
i dont think it matters if it is a 'sell' or 'buy' the commonly believed fact is, someone wants shares. thats a good thing to me no matter what. it was not the drop it to get them signal and even if it was someone wants them and that is how the game is played.
"scare the price down to get me shares, when i am done we bring it back up to make money"
again the goal is when that 'back up' time comes to make it higher than last and, more importantly, hold to build for the next time up.
so again, hold here and we will be ready for the next up. i was hoping to hold at 8 or even 9 but that did not happen. lets not dip to help the next rise be higher.
it was like that last time too. etrade does not hold their bid after or before hours so that is not an accurate depiction. neither does ubs but they slotted at 6. ubs and nite normally jump around a bit so i would expect them to play at 7 at times too.
a bad sign is if we see more bid hitting. a few hits of the ask should bring more mms back to 7.
we will see
nope. i am assuming you mean buy or sell as retail action. no way to tell that. every transaction has a buyer and seller. both can be retail, one can be retail, and neither can be retail. no way to know. people post here, and not saying anyone is lying, but we will never really know its true, if they post a number of shares and price and we then see it on the ticker afterward that is about as close as we get to confirmation. but since no one posts sells we never get the whole picture.
so even if we know someone bought and even if it was at the bid, the question is: who sold? if it was retail to retail, is that a buy? all depends how you look at it. so ihubs method, while not perfect, tells a story. the terminology may not be the best but it is what it is. action was either at the bid or ask. ask helps pps, bid hurts it.
in the end it rarely matters. big players like funds etc rarely play in this pool. if they do you need to decide if you consider them as a 'buyer'. but taking them out of the equation eventually every share is 'bought' at some point. even if a holder sells at the bid to a mm and we do not count that as a buy, eventually said mm will sell said shares to a new/current holder either at the bid or ask closing the loop.
the only things that matter are bid or ask, or if we can determine if they are 'new' shares which is very hard to do. you can only go by clues then such as volume, pps, mms on the board, prs, etc.
personally, again, i think this recent action is restricted shares being sold. just dont get their timing. whoever holds them must be able to read a chart, why bid sell on a down cycle? dont get it but they are not my shares and i dont know what they got them for... 7 may be profit. who knows.
either way i like when people show up and say its looking like a turn, or time to buy, or come get it. means they see an up cycle coming. and every upcycle has a chance to be followed by consolidation and another rise, or just a break of resistance making their profits even higher along with our trading range. much better than a true spiral.
just remember cyclical. selling turns to buying, down turns to up, our worry and upset turns to confidence and smile. (and then possibly back again :)
oh and from when the t/a was giving everything if memory serves the restricted was about 46m. so combined with the difference from the a/s and o/s that is around 100m shares.
could that feel like dilution? sure, especially at these levels. but maybe a lot of the volume from the last pr represents this? either way they should be gone through soon.
and yes i know selling can always be retail but i have to think the vndm volume was not. its been a few weeks since this took place so how many days of 10m here, 5m there etc until those 100m are gone? (if this theory is accurate) though i do know last time shortly after the mm that was sporting the new shares left, we popped.
i do not, my email is ryall12@hotmail.com feel free
the t/a is still giving the a/s which is still 2.5b as prior said he was not adding shares. they are directing us to the company for o/s, float, and restricted as, in their words, 'they do not feel comfortable giving that information at this time' which is not a gag. not sure what the deal is but if it were gagged it would say so on their screen, as it did before prior put out that first pr on the subject and they would not even give out a/s, and they would tell us so.
my only guess is the restricted shares are coming due as most have to be over a year old by now. also the last update on o/s was around 2.45b so perhaps the last of them were added to the float as well?
now if those numbers: o/s and restricted, and subsequently float, have changed since the gag was lifted that could explain why the t/a is hesitant to give an update without expressed permission from the company. it also does not mean expressed orders were given not to update them.
so yet again, just because someone says there is a gag does not make it true. contact them, they are very nice and respond to email, see below (i took out the header which everyone always says can be faked anyway but who makes up that long sig at the bottom? and again, contact them yourself leslie's email is right there):
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i didnt mean to sound like i was blaming people, yes prior needs to deliver and this will all be mute when he does.
however until then we can control to some extent where pps is effecting how high it can go on the ensuing move.
for example, selling stopped and even though it was a token ask buy we are now 2x2 which is much better than we were before... i still believe if whoever bought those shares at 7 this morning did so at 8 we would all be saying how nice it is to see 9s back right now.
and to your point, when prior delivers which will be what causes the real move, building from 9 is better than building from 7 at these levels.
sad, though i doubt it really took out 6 mms. what they each bid less than 2m? we just hold a bit and they come back to push it up like last time.
and if today follows our normal pattern we will see maybe another 2m of action throughout the day mostly as taps to the ask.
though this just illustrates what we spoke about yesterday. if whoever got those 11m shares would of bought at the ask of 8 we would most likely be at 8/9 now if not knocking on 9/10.
so over 1,100 dollars we are in danger of a down tick instead of seeing a potential instant return of 1,100.
hence my point of bid sitting on down times but hitting the ask on up times. if we bid sit on up times this happens.
so whoever got those 7s congrats, they will pay off. but so would of the 8s and now they may even see red for a bit before seeing green.
another 2m.
and it looks like vndm is the player here. that is the mm to watch imo. if he stays off the ask not much will happen. if he jumps to the bid we may get to go up.
yes but the 7 bid is now thin. though this did happen last time too. we were down to what etrade and nite on the bid for a few days with 6+ on the ask at 8, then when the daily was ready to turn a couple mil broke up to 9/10
i would like to see some more back on the 7 bid but this still makes me think the 16th could see a similar up push. now if bigger news than an unexpected loi accompanies it...
but we need to hold here until then.
ok despite a little sell to start the day, which is in line with the daily chart falling and setting for a nice bounce, note we are back to 7 on the bid support and ubs at least for now is up to 9 on the ask.
that means with this hourly swing we could see an uptick to 8/9 on a little buying. now yes i think the hourly will need to fall again before the daily is ready and even if we uptick now it may slip back to 7/8 on said fall but the daily will be ready for the next move up and the more shares bought higher means the higher pps goes.
so again, now is ask time. we can uptick for today into tomorrow before the hourly is ready to fall again and hopefully just hold the uptick support into tuesday when both charts should be ready to rise.
because we know this is a real business, see my other post. there are many pinks that sit or even move up with no news for ages. in fact most times we have seen news, as is common on pinks, pps tends to dip as people sell into news. so if that is the play you are making i get the frustration. it also explains the little flipping we see but i would bet most 'sells' are those short term players who expected a quick pop. it does not affect our support. those who are long and invested in this business are not selling at 7 and would never sell lower so those numbers will never even show up.
plus news will hit. i mean we just had some a week or so ago. yes it has not developed yet but it was news and shows prior is working to find profitable ventures to add to the fold.
i hear you buddy. it is always nice to see action on the ask. though on the very technical level there are times when the hourly shows down and it is very hard, like trying to beat the house, to uptick even with ask action. that is why i say during those times bid sitting is acceptable as it provides a solid base and should of theoretically kept us at 8 if not 9. what we saw instead were people praying on the hourly downturn and thus forcing those who wanted to sell to come down to them, that causes price drops. if everyone just sat on the bid yes they would of had to buy at 9 instead of 8 or 7 but the pps would of most likely stayed there as well.
then an upturn happens. and if people then hit the ask pps moves up pretty freely as we have seen. yet if we continue to bid sit during this time it just creates more resistance as those who were happy to let you chase their sell up now want to crowd the ask before the next down cycle.
the problem we are seeing is bid sitting on upturns and chasing on downs. not never helps as it just makes the new average lower. the only good it does is make resistances lighter when a strong upturn happens as those who wanted out at the true resistance got out lower. so in a way good for new money to be in lower and in a way for future moves as we could see a nice explosive one as, percentage wise the 7 to 11 move semi was, but to gain true pps advances you need support on down cycles and chasing on up.
we are in an hourly up. if people chase now we go back to 9 or even 10. then when the daily is ready we can potentially see explosive.
yet if we squander ups and are weak on downs well that makes the next daily up cycle all the harder.
we still have tomorrow to try. but in the end here i think it just effects how long until we see the nice up move which i believe is coming soon.
oh and some posts today exactly reflect why i put up that sticky with 1wc locations. these all represent achievements that prior came through on. all along the main idea of this venture was to build cost attractive money remittance to the under served banking communities. this idea has begun and is growing. feel free to call either number or check the website.
this is an actual growing business. it is a multi-faceted business and some ventures are fully future looking atm however the main goal was to get 1wc up and running.
it is. there are verifiable partners to the program (call up i-pay solutions for one example or check their website, very legit business), there have been sponsors and advertising (check with brother bruce, not known here but again respectable and happy to confirm), and most importantly there are physical locations (yes multiple locations) that have customers and sales. call them and check. yes it is china which is very long distance but worth the few bucks to justify your investment. check this post for a suggestion on how to deal with the chinese branches:
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yeah new money! seriously though the hourly has finally bottomed and showing potential to turn. now would be a good time to ask as opposed to bid as before. if this hour sees some ask, preferably all ask, we could see some momentum swing going into the end of the week. right now the weekly chart is level, rather it not end the week showing fall.
that said this might not signal a turn now even with some ask-ing. it could just be confirmation of a bottom and we will need another hourly cycle before the daily is ready to turn. however that works to the timeline i have been seeing for around the 16th so that would not be so bad. just means more 'new money' will be had at 7/8 instead of potential 9/10 making the highly sought double around 15 instead of 19... but that should not matter as once real news hits i am sure this will be back above 20 regardless.
note the use of ask and bid to try and eliminate the buy/sell confusion we always seem to have...
lets remember that in september/october he was busy expending into the Philippines. many kiosks there as mentioned plus a whole new network.
is it on track for the number of locations open? no, but i am satisfied with that type of expansion.
i believe somewhere it was stated he was eying mainland china next, and yes hk is not considered 'china' all times, so if that means we do not hit the 10-12 target for this year well thats ok with me too. the more places those locations in busy areas can send to the better.
they will open, it will expand.
you too, and yep that is around the resistance area now isnt it? though actually maybe closer to 1.60 and i still think there might be some other fun in the mid 1.70s but i do not have a chart in front of me.
the important things is pps is well above 1.30 now and showing some strength. though every chart is a bit overbought so the main thing is for 1.30 to hold. if we have to go back to deciding if it was 1.25 or 1.26 that would be bad :)
well every chart but the monthly, that still looks good and suggests this will consolidate then move again soon. could be a good comeback year for fcel. seems like a hot sector again.
just what i am seeing too. lets note it recently said the same up an uptrend that moved only a few points so it can be assumed this one will only move a few points, well it already has. might touch 7 we will see but shortly after that i see that rallying power they speak of.
and this is a long term down trend, but we are nearing the end of it. i know i sound like a broken record but we are passing major hurdles that take time to break free of.
as for locations, i thought 10 was the target? hopefully he updates soon. last one was announced in august right which is just over 1 a month. guess the 2 a month was wishful thinking but 1 isnt bad and if that has continued and/or will continue 10 is possible by end of the year with 12 easy by the end of the first year in operation.
wonder how many all those kiosks count as?
either way the main thing is there are locations with sales. so even if growth is slow and communication light, this is a real growing business.
no arguments there... this is the most frustrating thing i have ever charted. pretty much everything plays out at least closely to how i see them. and yes i tried emailing him once offering such services as you did with ir, no response :)
that said there have been times where what was shown did pan out, just not always as well as it should have.
ah well. this is about the lowest i have seen the hourly chart in a long time. so if 8 hold through close and tomorrow sees some buying i think it will move back to at least 8/9 pretty quickly, but the daily is not ready to turn yet which is why i still call the 16th.
we will see
yes, i am thinking before thanksgiving. its never coincidence when big news comes out near timezones or other big fib events take place. the fact we have a new timezone right near a monthly and weekly fan line can not be coincidence.
true that timezone does not start until the 7th and 1 of said lines crosses current action closer to the 14th of december or so but i still think the correlating news/action will begin before they actually take place. the first fan line crosses by the 25th of november.
so yes it could wait until either the timezone actually starts or a little into it, but again i think we see something big (and whats bigger than the financials) before the 25th of november. thats just over 2 weeks and i still think around the 16th may even be something.
note: this is all based on the chart and things posted to the board, but mainly the former
recent average price has been 9. its apparently the end of the world and loss forever if pps ever dips to 8, or even possibly 7, yet when it rises to 10 or 11 that means nothing. easy to worry on a down day.
today barcharts (or whoever) says sell, in a week or so they say buy. its cyclical.
down is normally easier to expand upon as selling can attract more selling than buying does buying if anyone followed that thought. but it will happen.
friday we had 6 on the bid 2 on the ask. now 1 on the bid 3 on the ask. it will change again. in fact when it was 6+ on the ask it took what 5m to push up 2 ticks? rainy, sleety day on wall street. its dipped and been red before. weve had a few sells before. there were more buys 2 weeks ago when pps went up.
now is a good time to bid sit though. its a down cycle. about support and letting someone fill your order. in time that will change as well and be about momentum and getting your order filled. cycle.
true but, and as we have already seen, the upswing did not really get going and now we are in a new downswing. the fact it held for a while is good as indicators were nearing a bottom before the price drop. but, though the hourly should be ready to bottom and possibly turn by late tomorrow, i think the next few days at least still see some down pressure. hopefully we can stay pretty flat for the weekly chart.
i still see around the 16th as a potential good reversal time which would fall in line with current action at least so far.
the other alternative, as we are still fighting that weekly line, weekly psar, and last fib fan line (that hits close to the 24th or so) is it will not reverse until closer to the new timezone. that should hit around the 7th of december. the monthly bear line hits around there too.
normally timezones represent a change or consolidation. so far this year we have seen: up, down, consolidate, down, consolidation (after a failed up) and the monthly is indicating up should be next.
we will see. but i doubt this is a happy week pps wise.
(edited) whether there has been or not i believe you refer to the company, not posters on this board which was the accusation at hand. i know i am not a pumper, and i believe you are not a pumper even though at the time you supported, and even supplied, some of said information. nor do i believe anyone else who posts here is pumping.
that was all i was saying.
as for the investment losing value well yes somethings have not panned out or been updated fully yet. and yes there was an email campaign, maybe two?, on this stock which artificially inflated price for a time due to the attention said campaign brought. that is life for a pink.
current pps well that is attributed to the recent dilution but i do not understand why it is at this 10 level instead of closer to 20 as that would be a more accurate representation of said dilution based on the old 25 trading range. other than releasing financials i saw no pump that went on with the last release of shares unless i missed it form june until now.
edit- also think some has to due with just impatience as most pinks are temporary things and the majority who play here do not play long term. its cyclical.
if that had not of happened i believe we would still be in the 25 to 30 range, maybe dipping here and there but also most definitely rising on occasion as well. i also believe that will happen as more issues are addressed. and no, i have no timeline for this but i am confident to wait for it instead of gambling that i will catch the correct timing in any of the number of pump and dump campaigns running rampant on this exchange.
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no worries man, didnt take it that way. didnt mean my reply to come across that way either, really is not much difference between 1.25 and 1.26, the important thing is it held.
almost looks like buying time again here. daily is a bit indecisive but has shown some support. hourly is mixed too but confirming daily/monthly support lines atm.
the weekly shows weakness though. that is the only part worrying me. monthly chart isnt bad but we did just have a nice run. right now the weekly bear is fighting the monthly bull. tough to say which will win right now.
2.10 or so will be a key support. as will this 2.30 (monthly bull support) we are fighting the pull of a recently passed weekly fan line and about to hit monthly fan line so that may be what is causing the resistance. but these are the last of the lines so if passed things get better.
there is more support at 1.75 and if it falls there i would be all over it. but 2.10 is key.
big resistance now is around 2.50. pass that and the next attempt at 3 should allow it to be passed.
we will see, getting interesting again though.
1.25 1.26 whats the difference :) but the 1.30 is the bigger one. good day today either way. looked bad right until the end then a nice push broke a line and makes next week look better.
still think the weekly is over extended but the monthly is looking good. plus there is that timezone in december coming up.
daily looks overextended too, would be much better if this was consolidating over 1.30. imo that needs to break very soon and see consolidation there instead. everything hinges on that. difference between extended run and another fall. sets the stage for that timezone.
atm i am hopeful it will be a good one. we will see. hourly says it may make another push up but time series is over pps and macd is in the power zone. so if it doesnt happen it may be hard to hold this support level.
we do have daily support around 1.20 going into next week so a dip there isnt bad so long as it bounces.
good consolidation today. would of been nice for all action over 1.65 but took some weeding out. not bad. the dip only went to daily support, again not bad.
really want to see some good consolidation here unless we get something to push over 1.80s next week. but i will take a good consolidation base in this range for a new push again. monthly chart looks nice still.
same views and predictions we have seen for months now, how are they going?
we hit 7 briefly but have been up by 9/10 for a while. quarter has gone by, no audit and little news. yet we broke up to 11 at one point and only buying today with a sell chart.
lets see what those dates bring. lets also note i call when i see up and down swings, not just down swings... who is honest and who is playing?
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"Pump and dump" is a form of microcap stock fraud that involves artificially inflating the price of an owned stock through false and misleading positive statements, in order to sell the cheaply purchased stock at a higher price. Once the operators of the scheme "dump" their overvalued shares, the price falls and investors lose their money.
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no one here is pumping. no one is posting anything misleading. barcharts, for example, is a reputable website so stating what they say is fact. there is no urgency behind it. no one bought shares cheaply. no one is looking to pump.
we are here to support our investment. we are proponents of the stock and company. no one has hidden that or said otherwise. yes people mention contact with prior but we share that and its nothing earth shattering. whether it is believed or not is another story. everyone has an opinion but i highly doubt anyone is outright lying about contact. no inside information has changed hands.
we are all positive in general about owvi. nothing is meant to be misleading. and at times we all question the company. in the face of heavy criticism we all band together to support our investment. like in families, siblings fight but add in an outside element and all differences are put aside.
there is no pumping here. just support, belief, excitement, and sharing. our purpose here is to discuss this company and our investment. to share and find community with like minded investors. we are happy when sites like barcharts say something good about our investment. we are not trying to drive the price up. we will be happy if it does go up. but again we are not planning to dump when it happens.
we predict possible pps based on what we think valuation is and where we think it may go. we dont say buy now as pps will be x soon so make money quick. we have many times said these are future or years ahead estimations. we plan to wait for it. that is not pumping.
to accuse of pumping imo is as serious as accusing of bashing.
i know i have never posted something false about owvi. i know i never posted with the intention of tricking someone into buying my shares. have i posted saying pps will go up? yes, but out of excitement and what i saw on a chart. not done to create a false demand. i do not post to other boards saying such either.
i am sure most here can post the same as the above.
i see no pumping here, do we need a post on what bashing is again? if one can not be called out then the other should not either. especially when untrue
seems like someone just did no? 'we' are investors who believe in owvi. that is the nature of oh 99% of ihub boards. so we look for the positives. none of us consider selling owvi so why would we post that? why would someone invested in a stock post when a website says to sell? unless we want to try and get some more lower priced shares maybe. but then again we have our shares and believe any entry point into owvi is a good one. we are not trying to trick people or deceive people. we want to share what we know and allow others to share with us.
we also understand when they say buy it is a temporary thing. every stock has its ups and downs. we like to celebrate the ups, the more who do the higher they are. conversely the more who 'celebrate' the downs the lower they can be. we do not want to see this lower so we do not 'celebrate' the bad. plus i have been saying for days now we are in a down cycle. they call that a sell. i call them up cycles, they call them buys. its terminology.
bar charts is not giving an opinion on the strength of owvi as a company. there is no dd there. no long term suggestion. it is an analysis of the short term trading pattern and chart just as i give. it is nice when it agrees with me either way no? it is nice when it says buy, that means we are trending up. but i 'predict' that ahead of time. sometimes it happens, sometimes not. sometimes they say sell and sometimes people buy, like today.
so yes, right now there is some short term weakness. which by the way someone did post smartscan saying this. again nothing hidden or dishonest. and right now barcharts says sell. soon, quite possibly around the dates i predict, we will enter a new up cycle and they will say buy again. the point is during this down or sell cycle pps not only held support but we had a buy. yes volume was low but it was all at the ask. we also saw at least 2 mms move UP their bid and at least 1 mm move UP their ask.
to me that shows strength. where does barcharts analyze that? they dont. they are saying pps is not heading up atm. it may in fact head down. we know we are at support and believe it will not. soon it will head up. we want it to break resistance to move up more. that benefits everyone. so we celebrate those instances.
some only like to talk about the positives
some talk about everything but try to be optimistic
some only talk about the negative
why is that? why do some only consider barcharts right when it says sell but never when it says buy? why do some not care either way? why do some only care when it says buy?
why ask why, buy owvi
to me anything under 10 (the 7-9 range where i doubt anyone got many 7s) is as good a time as any. so yes, i agree 9 is a good opportunity
but if you are asking if today is a good day for a chance to see instant green off a buy then i am not sure. could be if enough people agree and take those 9s out. that should set up a nice chart and potential move for next week. but there is the chance that next week provides another buying opportunity. might not be a lower price, read 8, but you might have 'time' to use funds elsewhere before loading here.
just depends what you are looking for. though again anything 8/9 is pretty solid here
note: that was not all directed at you curtis, more of a global answer.
to expand, i need more info (volume is so low and will be nice to see mondays candles) but either late in the day or monday mid-day seem the best buying times atm. subject to change though.
obviously not as i had hoped. but its all timing and the moves were possible. we also have held support so how have those predictions of falling or 1s here come going?
i remember calling when the last move to 11 happened pretty much on the day. that one also did not go as high as hoped and i posted to that many times, honestly.
i have also not predicted another move up yet only a holding of support. which it has. not every prediction or signal works out. most do, more times than not on higher exchanges though. i post elsewhere and have been pretty on.
i will say when i see another possibility. right now i have been saying for a while we are in a down cycle. back in october i said we would see an up move and we did. just came later and not as high as hoped. news always helps. and hey news did come out then, just not the news we wanted.
so they did not go as planned but there was some something to them.
right now we are coming to a cross roads for end of day and monday. some buying will extend the chart and possibly lead to a happy week. selling could lead to a very unhappy week.
if we can push into those 9s through monday there is a good chance at a flip and up tick(s) for tuesday+ otherwise the best hope is to hang on to support for a while longer until its time again though there would be a great risk to testing lower support if that happens.
so the key is keeping at 9+ through monday.
there, there is honesty. i always post with it, just try to trend to the optimistic as well i believe in this company.
yes i understand, and have heard the same :)