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No doubt, that's the problem with these low floaters, when there is an overreaction to something, they tend to take a MUCH bigger hit than stocks with a larger float. Sucks for people that got in at higher levels for a few weeks, but it creates amazing opportunities to pick these companies up at massive values. And when they rebound, they really go up quick.
Your talking about two completely different stocks, with two completely different share structures trading on two completely different exchanges. Yet your trying to use this to try and yet again twist the facts and create some type of "panic" lol. There is nothing wrong with this company, they are making a ton of money, are quite diverse, they just kicked off their 40 million dollar contract, they are on Nasdaq, they have a SS of around 2 million in the float and 8 million in the OS and a tiny market cap at these prices, they have 5 million in cash on hand as of dec, they just bought back like 13 million in debt lol, i mean this is a company that is clearly doing EVERYTHING right.
All I got to say to you is it's quite clear you picked the wrong stock to short, hence why you first started posting here on the day it went up 50%, obviously some one got caught and now is going to be forced to cover soon. Simple as that.
Learn how to read charts, this hit the bottom a few weeks ago, and has since been rising ever since, with large spikes here and there. Today wasn't something "out of the blue" as you are trying so hard to make it sound, this rebound has been building for weeks now. Just because it doesn't make "sense" to you, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense....
Like wise, you too!
They also have a 40 million dollar contract, that they are already have completely the first months shipment of biodisel to... That's a 40 million 6 MONTH contract too, not some long 10 year contract. Combined that with almost 6 million cash on hand, and a 10 million dollar trade loan and these guys seem like they are in a very good position... If you don't think so, that's great, sell, then you don't have to worry. I think this is very undervalued right now given their revenues and net income.
They are also restructuring to further increase cash and reduce costs, this is one of the healthiest companies I have seen in a long time....
Your sarcasm is noted, not sure whos doing what, but I know one thing for sure, I am loving what this is doing to the PPS.....
Not at all, this has been a great chart play. What it did today was the exact same thing this has done the last 2 days, each day its a slow but steady rise all day long, small pull backs, and each day it gains slightly more. First day was roughly 2.5 cents, 2nd day was 3 cents, today was over 4 cents. It's building momo, charts look fantastic, and now we got news coming. It actually had higher volume on friday then it did today, so nothing would indicate that anyone knew about the 8-k coming today.
AH 8-k out, TRON just bought a ton more mining property in Canada.
Effective February 6, 2012 , Toron Inc. (the "Company", "we", "us", "our") entered into a mineral property acquisition agreement (the "Acquisition Agreement") with Glenn Griesbach and 9248-7792 Quebec Inc. (collectively, the "Vendors"), whereby the Company has agreed to acquire from the Vendors an undivided one hundred percent (100%) interest in and to an aggregate of 140 mineral claims located in the Province of Quebec, Canada (the "Claims").
Pursuant to the terms of the Acquisition Agreement, we have agreed to pay to the Vendors, in consideration of an undivided 100% interest in and to the Claims, an aggregate of 5,000,000 shares of our common stock and $20,000 in cash consideration, with the issuance and payment to be completed by April 16, 2012 . The Vendors shall jointly retain a 2% net smelter royalty on the Claims.
The Vendors has agreed to transfer the Claims, as further described in the Acquisition Agreement, five (5) days after receiving the full and final payment. The Company will be responsible for all costs and administrative actions required to renew any of the Claims indentified in the Acquisition Agreement. A full copy of the Acquisition Agreement is attached hereto as Exhibit 10.1.
Please don't blame the "stock" or "CEO" for your own stupid investing. You made some down right laughable calls as to why you should get in before this earnings report. It's going to take a better part of a year before the cuts will start to show up on the earnings, anyone who was thinking other wise is clearly uninformed.
The key with a company like this is long term, they have good dev studios, they publish games, they have big IPs so if they can save as much as they say from these cuts, which look pretty clear and dry, they will be fine and should return to profitability in the next year or even a bit sooner. For a company like this, profitability is the final goal, but if they make huge reductions to their losses each quarter that will be more than enough to get this stock flying well back over a dollar...
Games take years to make, not sure what you where thinking, but it's pretty clear you know very little about this industry. Even if they made the call a year ago to only focus on hardcore games, you wouldn't see that translate into the market for 2 to 3 years down the road... Same goes with stopping production on kid games, that is going to take some time to see the results reflected on earnings, though smaller amounts of time vs actually creating games in a different genre.
I think you really should do a lot more dd before you invest in anymore gaming companies, and well i hope you don't buy all stocks with as little research as you did THQ. Using EA as a "reference" to what you could expect out of THQ is laughable at best and just plain stupid at worst. EA is the biggest developer/publisher in the world, on top of that, they had many major AAA releases in the past quarter so their earnings which are already FAR greater than THQ would be even bigger due to those key titles coming out during that time frame.
Thanks, good luck on your short position! I have a feeling you might get burned though...
Oh now your trying the fraud line lol. There is nothing "illegal" about promoting a stock, sending out email or snail mail alerts for it. Please check the SEC rules on this and you will CLEARLY see the truth. Dickson and their whole group always disclose the promo, how much they get paid for it, and all of the other things that the SEC requires from groups who do stock promos. It clearly states in their emails that they are not giving out investment advice, and that they intend to sell shares into the volume. So please, go look at the facts, which you have clearly not done, as your claims are 1000% completely baseless.
They meet all the rules by law, and their plays go up 100s of percents, end of story. Stop crying, either get in or get out, simple as that.
LOL good job McFly, you totally uncovered the secrets of how these plays work! Wow your kidding me, so what your saying is these plays went up on "bs" news and pr/hype, and that they didn't hit the actual "insane" projections. Wow no kidding.... What is this your first rodeo? They all over project the value of these plays, they never hit those "projections"... That being said, at the end of the day, what you have is a bunch of plays that ran for weeks, not days, and went up 100s of percents... You know what we call that around here? MONEY!!!!
I want to thank you from the bottom of my cold black heart for showing us the "light"....
Nice try bud, lets look at the facts, here are the actual results of his past plays....
My November pick (HHWW) soared from $1.03 to $3.25... my december pick (FCPG) exploded from $.84 to $5.26... my January pick (KNKT) leaped from $1.00 to $2.89... my February pick (ALZM) went from $1.28 to $2.60 -
And you don't have to go by just that, here are the historic charts for everyone to see on these....
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=63414053
Notice the MASSIVE spikes on his plays, and how they all run for a few weeks...
And no, to completely contradict your other post, these guys are not "all the same". Yes they are in the same group, but the biggest plays Dickson announces, Mr. X and company have some decent plays and some bad ones, but when Dickson announces a play, it's almost always money, specially if it's a million dollar + promo!
Wow you want to actually post something that has to do with anything I said, or anyone said here, or the company it self? Again, your redundancy is amusing, we already know Mr. X isn't running this play, Dickson is, there is a HUGE difference between the two, and their plays...
Yes yes we all know that, and yet the plays still go up big....
Exactly, like I stated this is a 1.3 million promo and dicksons group is running it. Should be good and I would expect it to really take off on monday..
You read it again...
CFM has received and managed a total production budget of
$1,300,000 for this advertising effort and will retain any amounts
over and above the cost of production, copywriting services, mailing
and other distribution expenses, as a fee for its services
Yup, I have no idea how this will go exactly, I don't know how high, how long, etc, but I am a betting man, and based on what I have seen with these guys I would expect major movement on monday.
Check out the charts on WSML, that was his last play, you should see the charts and pps, and movements, are almost the exact same as LTSN so far.... And if all holds up, monday should be the big break out day here...
Yes, the "16 page mailer" is the same thing on the web site....
Need to learn how these plays work bud, Eric Dicksons last promo went from 1 dollar to .43 to a .71 close when it was first alerted. 3 days later it was at 1.36 a share... I find it funny and well alarming that you say you were going to drop 100k on this, but have no clue how any of this guys plays actually work.... Do you usually drop a 100k on stocks promos that you don't do any dd or research on or was this going to be the first?
Mr. X said this was a "rumored" promo, and he is correct, he's technically not involved with this, as far as who's actually running the play. Eric Dickson is the person who is running this, he's the one who got 1.3 million to run this. Mr. X will most likely promote it to his people to, but Dickson is the one who is getting paid to run this play. Currently, just small groups have got paid some small money to start to get the buzz going for this, this is typical for Dickson plays, but make no mistake, he's the one running this, not Mr. X or anyone else. And Dickson has quite a good track record.
Nope, not true, it's very real, it just got delayed a week due to timing issues on some of the promo stuff they were sending out from what I have heard. All of the evidence points to this as well...
This play hasn't even kicked off yet, expect emails to start going out friday, AH, and all weekend long, the real 1.3 million dollar promo should be starting on monday.... Trust me on this..
Please, we know how these plays work here bud, anyone uninformed investor can quickly bring up the chart for AMWI or POTG and see exactly how fast these went from the .40s to $1+... In a matter of days next week this will be over $1 and I will be LOL at the people who sold heh. But hey, at least most will learn a lesson and not make the same mistake on the next APS play.
So lets see here, there was no major sell off today like many of the uninformed "predicted", and in fact, we barely had a dip today, and finished very strong over .40.... And lets see here I do believe people where calling for everyone to sell in the mid .30s yesterday lol. Factor in major AH news filed with the SEC, and most likely more major news coming on tuesday pre market, I would expect this to gap up nicely and run hard out of the gate. Sorry to anyone who sold today or yesterday, but I have a feeling you guys will learn a very big lesson come tuesday which should help you guys out big time on the next APS play. Next week is going to be very very fun!
CRWV was not awesome penny picks.. that was ox of wall street, so please don't try to compare the two, two completely different groups... CRWV was ran by the same people who ran ABOT.... Need I say more....
Thanks for saying exactly what I already said, glad you figured out how to be redundant.
You too!
Dude go look at their past plays, they don't have major sell offs before weekends or holidays.... AMWI ran over the thanksgiven holiday, the worst you can expect is this to trade in the same range. The fact that you think it's "risky" to hold over a 3 day weekend only shows you haven't taken a single second to do any basic dd, all one has to do to see how "risky" it is to hold one of their plays over a holiday is look at AMWI over thanksgiven...
caps lock broken?
Good news indeed!
It's mostly just the group passing shares between them selfs, it's not the company dumping nor anyone else. Just wash trading basicly between the different group members to generate volume and control the pps.
do you want a cookie? I mean really, do you think anyone here A: doesn't already know this and B: cares? These are money makers plain and simple, we all know what they really are, trust me bud, you didn't discover something that millions don't already know....
Of course, again, these guys don't get paid to move stocks a few cents, they get paid to move stocks by big amounts. You could have got AMWI at the .60s and still doubled your money, simple as that. This one will be no different. It will have pull backs, no stock can just go straight up, they have to let it cool off, reset the charts, ect.. but any time it pulls back, its only setting things up for the next big move up to a new level. AMWI had days where it gained .15 in one day, and had a day where it gained .80 in one day alone. When they get these going, and really feel its time to move, they have no trouble making it go to where ever they want.
Whats funny is they are claming that X number of shares have been dumpped, yet there hasn't been enough volume to even cover have the shares that it would have taken to generate those prices. These guys dont get plays to run from the low pennies to dollars by letting the company dump shares while they are running a play. The dump happens at the end, not while the play is just starting out. N00bs on I hub really make me LOL some times.....
There not dumping shares, please do more research. The only time they ever "dump" shares is at the end of the play, right now they are passing shares between each other to increase the volume. These guys can take the pps up or down at any time, regardless if there are real buyers or not....
Oh yea, those "fake bids" arn't fake, get a clue, 100,000s of shares were sold while that 2 million bid was on there and not one share disapeared... Same thing happened with AMWI... Sure sometimes they will pull those bids... when they need to reset the charts and let it cool off, but trust me, those bids are perfectly real and get hit all the time...
Man I am so sorry you didn't learn anything from AMWI, just as clueless now as you were then...