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I am going to rent that movie. Like I say we have no Statesman in Congress anymore. This is leading us down the path of a second rate power.
I hope we get some news next week. I did talk to the IR person this week and he did indicate they were having meetings. Lets hope it is to finalize some business and then release good news to the investors. I did tell him investors are getting a little impatient with the management. We all need to call the company and express our views.
I believe they are optimistic if they can get a nuclear plt built in 8 yrs. I believe the newest plt that just went on line was started 20 yrs ago. With all of the legal battles and etc. it took 20 yrs or more. That was the last time the US started a nuclear plt. With the new energy bill passed in 05 I believe if there are delays then the gov't is responsible. I think they have plans now in for approval for plts but I am sure the environmentalist will figure out a way to stop or slow up the process. If I was a betting man I would say it will take 10-15 yrs to get a plt up and running. In 15 yrs the Chinese will have close to 30 nuclear plts up & running. If we are lucky we will have a couple. We will still be buying oil from the Arabs & LNG to keep are country running and the deficit will just keep climbing. We will be a second rate country in the next 20 yrs because all of the special interest grps cannot work toward the good of the country - just interested in their little special area. Sad but true.
I did not realize the US nuclear business is in such bad shape. I knew it was not good. This makes my point better for NNRF. I think there are about 6 nuclear companies that can do it all. One French, One German - Siemens I think, about 2 others in the world and 2 US companies Toshiba/Westinghouse & GE. I might be off a little.
I realize the US gov't will probbly not allow the 2 US companies to bid on certain jobs due to our relationships with specific countries. With them being in such bad shape it will make it more difficult to compete. So I figure less than 6 companies to compete on a lot of jobs. It is intersting that one of the Soviet Union spin off countries central gov't bought a big interest I believe in Toshia/Westinghouse. So this means these companies are worth something to gov'ts. I do believe NNRF will be bought back by the Russian gov't or another large company the Russian gov't controls.
I still think this company is a diamond in the rough. Unfortunately I bet a lot on the company and I am in the hole now. I wish we could get this stock back to 5 soon I would be happy.
On nuclear it looks like we are depended on companies outside of the US just like oil. I doubt the Arabs will give us any free oil. They are a culture of just taking. Unfortunately I think most of the world expects us to just give give and not give any thing in return. Sad commentary for the US.
Lets hope we get some good news next week. I am still wondering how big you think this company can be by the end of next year or the the beginning of 08.
What I am hearing is they are re grouping this week-can't say any more. I am am hopeful that next week they release the earnings with some other good news. I think this month will be the determination if we are going to be sitting on dead money or if the stock will start to move. The good thing is the Iceman has been put on Ice for a time being. He might be right that some good news is coming out but he is like the Boy that Called Wolf too many times - no one is listening to him. When you are a paid promoter we retail investors have to determine BS from the facts. Too much BS and you not have any credibility. I was on one of his sales conference calls to the Hispanic & Black brokers he is trying get on board to push his stuff to this group. Boy is he a pressure saleman first then a great market timer & trader for the day. Anything outside of that you have to wonder if he is pushing a POS to get compensated or if he really believes it is a winner. It is too much work. I just feel NNRF is one of those once in a life time stocks if the management executes perfectly it could be the next INTC or MSFT of the nuclear business.
Where do you have limited among of competitors, high margins, business recession proof, inside track to the decision makers, 10-20B of dedicated clean business and etc. Even INTC & MSFT had to invent a new business market for their products.
The 64k question is if management is on track to take advantage of this golden opportunity. We need the information of earnings and indication on their wins. My next question I am trying to figure out how big the company can be by the end of next yr or the begining of 08. I take everything the Iceman says and cut it in half or more. I think 2B is too high but I think 1B might be possible. I wish I could get others peoples feelings on this. If they just win 10% of the Russian clean up dedicated money and 10% of what the EC has pledged I think it is possible. I need other peoples view on what is a reasonable size for the company next year. With the earnings release & some wins we might be able to put our hands around this.
Still have not address the question on the burn rate for the 2.5M credit line. Was told to call the CFO to discuss this issue. I have not heard back from him. It is important to know how much money they are burning through before all the contracts are coming. The big boys would want these answers to know whether to invest in the company. I would like to know to gauge how much lower the stock might go since we are getting updates on being able to figure these things out. Maybe that 10M buy is asking these questions and thinks the stock might go down more before the buying. I still think this stock is dead money until these updates are given to the investors and potential new buyers. It might be a great company with great management but it looks like the smart money is not convincd it is time to get in.
It is my opinion we still do not have the 2nd quarter earnings and the 3rd quarter will we over in about 3 weeks. How can investors make any decision on the future of this company. Question 2.5M loan - need to know the burn rate to know if this will keep them running until those supposedly big contracts come in. There is no way to make any educated decision on this company without any earnings release. We will be getting 2nd qtr earnings when the 3rd qtr is over.
I think the company needs to get the investors updated. I can see why big investors are not buying if there are no updates. The Iceman's 10Mbuy might be waiting for this information if they are really true buyers. lol
He will just hang up on you. You can try at 818-992-6438
In the Meantime where are those spin off shares, earnings & update on the big financing while we wait for that 10M share buy the Iceman keeps telling us about. I think these updates are the most important thing for us shareholders. The company owes us that believe in the company these updates. The long they take the more I lose my respect for the management.
He will not have an excuse he say they are coming the next week and if they fail then they will come they following week. I think his mother forgot to tell him the story of the Boy that Called Wolf to many times.
Good posting. I have no prove but I believe you are onto something. I do believe it is more the 144s selling than the shorts for the stock price declining. I think the short issue is to mask what is really going on. Just my thoughts. Will we every be able to prove it I don't think so. Great posting
Question on 144 fillings- there are 2 numbers of stock for each individual or company. Question is the first number the registered shares to sell and is the second the remaining shares they hold??
Where is this on the first page. Could you send me the link.
Where on his site is this information posted?
I did notice tonight he used the simple moving averages while all the other charts used EMA. Could you explain the difference. I know the exponential is designed I believe to capture change faster if I have it right. So if EMA are used would it show it braking the averages that the MA would not??
Your help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for reminding me of that. What about the spin off shares I think for the Roar deal if I have it right. i thought we were suppose to have them by now.
This is good news but the only thing that will help the stock is the earnings. The bottom line for any growth company and its stock price is earnings. Since it appears this company is not going to get listed to a major exchange until next year, we as shareholders need to have an update on earnings because this is the only thing that will help at this time. All of these release do nothing. Could you try to get us an update on the earnings. I cannot get anything out of the company. I am starting to question the company if they cannot update their major shareholders. Supposedly CFPC & CYRX was suppose to be listed by now and these are half the company of NNRF. If they cannot get listed by now why would NNRF get listed before next year. Your thoughts. News release are nice but they are not going to do anything for the stock. It is earnings - earnings also drive TA.
I agree with both of you and your opinions. I was wondering where ST states he is a paid promoter of NNRF. I have never seen it on his site. I have a hard with his site and the chat area and other areas to get it to work. He did comment to me that he had bought NNRF stock around $5 and was suffering like the rest of the people that bought at that price. I am not sure what to believe but a true TA would have said sell it when it went under $5. I would not mind any paid promoter to give us his opinion and information as long as they disclose their exact positions, qty, price, and if it is restricted & etc. Then you could make your opinion on their information and factor in the paid promotion. I think the Iceman and ST should put out a detailed disclose on the stocks they are compensated for especially the restricted shares they have and how much they paid for them or recieved free. It is interesting I get two different versions of the compensated stock from the company vs the paid promoter.
As long as this type of full discloser is posted and updated regularly right after a sale or purchase I have no problem with them posting. They should have to file a form similar to a13D that directors are required.
I was thinking about that today. The next time I talk to the IR person I will ask.
Lets hope this is the calm before the storm - storm meaning the good news that supposedly we have been hearing for some time will finally come.
According to the IR person, Todd is in Russia working on the accounting to help get the earnings out from ATOLL and other issues. They contact him through emails and phone by leaving messages. Apparently it is not easy to get in touch with him in some areas along with the time differences.
You make a great point all of what they are doing has to fall in place in the next couple of months perfectly. I have not found a company yet that has this type of potential to possibly fallen in place right to make a killing on. I hope all of the star align so I can retire in the next year or two. I think the odds are better with NNRF than playing the lottery. I have been in enough commodity businesses to get the hell beaten out of you by the competition and the big boys that I saw this as one company that as I say would be a Crammer's wet dream if it was not a pk sheet stock.
If they do 1B dollars worth of sales that is questionable but lets say they do. I talked with some one close to the operation today and it was not Iceman. He did not deny that it could be possible. They have 6-8 more acquistions coming if true - most of the growth will come from them. They should if all goes well have close to 200M soon from investors. If all of this is true - that is if - but when you talk to these guys that are in the company you get the feeling it can be done. Last quarter they did 26% profit margin with ATOLL. One of the people close to the operation a couple of months ago stated some programs have as high has 50% margins. Lets take 20% margin to be conservative. 20% times 1B = $200M. Take 80% X 200M = $160M (that is to factor that the ATOLL profits are split & use 80% to average out this fact and that the other business will be 100% profit) You have 160M divide it by 50M shares (about 37M float now) that $3.20 per share X 20 pe = $64 share price.
I am trying to be conservative.Please comment and give me your thought. I don't believe it will be 100-150 as the Iceman has said. I was told by someone close to the company back a couple of months ago that Russian stocks trade at twice the PEs we do here. If the stock goes on the Russian exchage then we will see if this is true. That would make it a higher price. How do you think Russia has so many millionaire and billionaires. The gov't takes care of their cronnies through deals like this. So if the gov't does buy it out like they did with most of Gazprom don't you think their are going to be a lot of millionaires. The Russians make are gov't people and cronnies look like amateurs. Please comment.
I am still trying to find out what the price was for Gazprom before the Russian gov't bought out 50% of the company. Research on that deal might help to see where this stock might go. I need help for that research. I cannot find that price a year before the Russian gov't bought into Gazprom
I agree. We need to all work on them. Supposedly more are coming from the people I talked too. It sounds like 6-8 more.
I hope so. I did talk to some one in the know today not the Iceman. I feel pretty good after talking to them. I get the feeling that the earnings should be good and they should be out soon. This company is not going to issue stock to do the financing now. They are going to get the funds from different sources. Supposedly they are working on around $200M not the $500M that the Iceman was saying. Also I got the feeling that they could do $1B by the end of next year. The $2B Iceman has been saying is a little high too me. I am learnig to take what he says and cut it a least in half. I get the feeling that they are putting more emphasis on Europe and they probably will get European analysis to cover the stock before US ones. Lets keep our fingers crossed. These guys running this company are no kids they know what they are doing. It has been painful but I think it could be $60-80 stock next yr.
They have answered the SEC four times and I get the feeling they think the approval might have the chance to be done soon if they accept the final answers.
If they release the earnings and they are good will that help.
Good question I am not a technican. My guess is in the 2.75-2.80 but want do I know. I think 3.25 & 3.45 is the resistance to get it going. I wish the earnings would come out with some contracts.
Thanks for the input. I do know how long it takes to qualify a new product. I am surprise NNRF got the BEECOM & FIECOM approved when they did and especially from the Germans
GBMR will it survive with all of those shares out their. Question what will keep Dow from not taking over the production and sales themselves. supposedly they have their own product. Is that true? If not I am not sure this product will add that much to Dow's bottom line.
Ya it would be great if we would get some guidance from the company and status on a listing. I get the feeling that we will not see an Amex listing until next year.
Good question. In their August 16th press release the company is showing a need of 1300 metric tons for Germany or about about 130 metric tons per year for 10 years. I guess the best way to determine global demand is to do a cude method. Determine what % of the nuclear plants German has in the world and then proporation it with 130metric tons. My guess would be Germany probably has around 5-10% of the nuclear capacity. I would guess 10-20 times the 130 metric tons per year for Germany. That would put the demand around 1300 -2600 metric tons per yr. ST in his Sunday update was estimating the price for FEECOM & BIECOM in the range of $24-$33 per kg. I think I have this number and units right. If I have this right it would be in the $30-$85 Million range. this would not include the Nucap product which could be this large. this would not cover the labor which could be doubled or tripled. I am guessing the world market and demand to be 250-500M range per yr for both products and labor. This is just a guess.
Does anyone else have any ideas?
Thanks for the great explaination on S-8s. I will really look for them in the future. After reading the 10Q they have no cash just pay for everthing in stock.
What you say is true if the stock price does not change from the same ratio before a split to after the split. In this case the ratio changed against the retail investor. The price did not keep the same ratio as before or after the split. You are using the theory on stock splits not what really happened. Go back and work the numbers. the price ratio changed drastically after the split against the retail inetor.
I talked to the IR person and he had a technical person call me on the Nucap vs Biecom & Feecom. I miss understood the two products.Biecom & Feecom is a sheilding matter used mainly in the plants. The Nucap is to encapsulate the waste. They are independent of each other and can be used together. It depends on the program the materials they will be used.
Thanks it looks like the 3.45-3.50 is the resistance it needs to get through.
I would appreciate your help on trading the stock. It looks like most days it hits it high around 10-10:30 and sells off. Then it comes back later in the day. It is not doing that today. What is your thought for trading it during the day??
VYST is making money and intz not. VYST might have some potential. Looks another stock I think it is iotn (I might have this symbol wrong)
Where are the big buyers?? I thought there was going to be 4-6M shares bought. The story I here from the iceman now they are going to buy when they want to. We need the stock of the pk sheets and some good earnings. Any thought. Very quiet here today.
I called the IR person and discussed this with him. If you look at the release it is amendment 4 dated 8/20/07. According to him these are for responding supposedly to the SEC for when they merged the with the Neveda shell. They were not amending the issues after that. Hopefully this is a good sign. Iceman is saying the stock is going to move in the afternoon. I think we need off the pk sheets and good earnings to move the stock. The IR person stated they believe there are probably paid shorts working the different MBs.
Take that for what it is worth.
How do you do the
google auto alert. Sounds like a good tool.
After reading the full 10Q your right all he does is pay for everything with stock. It is a scam. Please explain the S-8 and the other forms you talked about. The 10Q is really hard to follow but it is obvious that it is so involved that there is only one reason to confuse the investor. The Rcau investment is so un related.