CDEL: Public Enemy #1
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...if no more dilution...
The general concensus around here is people are just waiting to break even to get out. If this is even remotely true, this stock is going nowhere for the next year. If this stock is legitemit, I'm sure Jared got the ol' trash the comapny now for the greater good speech from Kistler. Unfortunatley, it's at the expense of the hand that feeds him. IMO
I consider myself a loyal shareholder. I believe in this company and it's products. I made my first buy at 0.028 and have bought all the way down to 0.0008, I am as loyal as anyone on this board, but with no end in sight for any of this and not even being able to talk to anyone about it because I can't get them on the phone, yes, I am losing faith. I care about the company but it doesn't care about me back. It never works if it's one sided.
That is very true, I don't know if they are lies, but I never said they were lies. I am simply stating that they have lost my trust because they have not made any kind of effort to keep it. It takes a level of trust and belief in people that you have never met or know nothing about, to invest money with them. As such, it is easy to lose that trust if they are doing something no one understands, with no explanation for why. If I owned a company that was selling the idea of a product being sold, such as they are, I would make sure my contracts were verifiable.
I am not saying the contracts are lies, not at all, I am saying the company doesn't seem to care if we think they are lies or not.
They have over 100M shares left to dump off on people who are just waiting to break even and get out. Not to mention if they ever decide to let the PPS go up, everyone would expect them to dump into strength. They have very effectivly killed this, to a point where signing a contract with Wallmart would not save this thing soley based on the fact that no one would even believe them. They don't back up their PRs. I am down almost 80% some here are down 95%. I would feel I sincererly failed my children if this was the example I was setting for them. Jared, you have taken advantage of the people who believed in you the most, the people who trusted you with their financial future. You are a bad person.
I guess I just don't see the benefit for them.
Does anyone have a reasonable explanation for whats going on? You can't really say money because they could make so much more by pumping it and letting it run for a few days before the dilution. Are they hitting some kind of deadline where they need to dump everything they have sooner than later? What kind of sense does this make? Anyone?
Wow!, I plan to do the exact same thing. "Wait for a penny and buy some arrowheads"
Great minds.
I think they like to see us suffer. Maybe it's a case study about the emotional affects and tolls the market has on people.
We were all upbeat about this over the weekend. What better time to tear it down.
Jared said all funds were going into the company, he just didn't say which company. It all probably went to ESI. EESO will tank and ESI got free money.
I understand they do not wish to speak with everyone, I wouldn't. I would just like, as I'm sure everyone here would, confirmation that they are even still in the country.haha. I do not present myself in a threatening manner nor do I sound hostile on the phone, I just want someone, anyone, even the guy sweeping the floor, to call me back.
He doesn't return mine.
I bought just under .06 too. You just gotta believe.
Has anyone thought that most of this is Jared's idea? Maybe he knew all along that he was going to dilute this much and since he knew Kistler, he knew his reputation. Kistler said sure, "people already don't like me so why not". Maybe Kistler was brought in as a fall guy.
IMO of coarse.
then why stop the run that started on Mon? I understand selling into strength but why not wait a few days, it would have been worth more than twice what it was.
This can't be about the 5 million. Could have diluted at a higher PPS for that. There has to be other reasons for stopping the run, insiders or something else, but it can't be about the money.
Well put. I can't find the info we're looking for here but based on the fact that the simplist answer is usually the right one, maybe it just means the documents filled with the state were "merged in" to the rest of the companies filings.
Just a thought.
Why would they do that when they can make 600 bucks right now? HA!
What does that have to do with "merge in"?
If I had I would have just given them half my money and bent over. They I could have bet the other half on the biggest nag I could find at the track, and I still would have better odds than I FEEL like I do now.
I've heard that some CEO's want their stock to go up. Probably just a myth.
Anyone know ESI's value?
There are a few of us here with ya. I started at .028 and have been buying all the way down to .trip 8. When I can't get any lower than previous, I'm done. This better pay off.
Has anyone confirmed the international pacific contract? I sent them an email but no response as of yet.
Is the general concensus that they only diluted 50mm as opposed to 100mm because we are seeing the end of it, that is all the insiders needed, or that is all the market would allow at this time without all of us cashing out for flights to Indiana?
Would anyone like to post some of the emails they recieved from the company? I figure we all can use as much information as we can get.
Based on the facts at hand, the only logical explanation for any of this dumping is for insiders.
Remember, we are the upstart money, hence, the first round of disposable income for them.
I think it's pretty safe to say there will be no open house, not to mention, what happened to the new website.
I just tried calling 2 different numbers and no answer. Kinda makes you wonder how potential customers can get a hold of them.
Because then we would be:
1. happy
2. excited
3. not frustrated
These are all things that are bad for the company so they keep them from us on purpose.
The dialogue from todays events...
Jared: Look over there! it's a run!
Brian: Don't worry, 50 million should take care of that!
Jared: phew! just in time. It almost made it out of the gate.
annnd scene-
I have been averaging down the high 0.02's. I am holding tight because I believe it IS for insiders and it WILL run hard if and when it's feet touch the ground. I am definatley pi$$ed that I bought this morning though.
If it was a scam, wouldn't it make more sense to sell at a higher price, more money for the scamers right? The only logical answer to this is cheapies for insiders. Shouldn't they be a little less obvious though, this is technically illegal is it not? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Does anyone know ESI's value?
How realistic are these projections? I guess what I'm asking is, do pinks typically make it to their projected value?
I know this was posted a while ago, but, what would the est. pps be if a 30M '08 rev was realized?
Did they dilute at all today?
It is my understanding that this has "limited information" status due to only having one quarter of financials to report. The status would be even higher if they had financials for over six months. Since they have only been producing revenues for 6 weeks, this is impossible, this is the best status the company can achieve due to pink sheets criteria. We should be VERY happy.
Where are you seeing that it's $625k monthly? I see it as what they made in the first quarter.