CDEL: Public Enemy #1
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A raise would be a dead giveaway that they are just looking for the money, if that happens, everyone should take out their last $200 bucks and go buy a years supply of raumen because thats what I'll be eating for the next year if this goes down the toilet.
It can only go down so far before people completely lose interest. For as bad as this is, there is still interest, if only to get our money back.
I think they know a raise would kill it. I'm guessing the plan from the beginning was to fully dilute by open house time but since investors took a half-assed stand and for the most part didn't buy, they set a new goal of full dilution by finacials time. That's why the financials are taking so long to come out. Kistler said the balance sheet looks good, meaning he knows what the numbers are, meaning they are done. Why not release it, because they are not fully diluted yet. This is a friends and family play, that's why I have faith.
Because it won't run. No one wants to buy knowing it will be diluted. IMO, they wanted to dump the rest before the financials came out. I think they will give one huge PR stating financial info and no more dilution. That will make it run.
The wipeout pen.
We all knew this was going to happen right? Is there anyone who actually thought they would stop at 864M? It is almost guaranteed that we will see a pr stating the end of dilution now, simply based on the fact that they won't be able to dilute for the next few weeks while the the raise in A/S papers go through.
All depends on if they dilute more. If they do, you'll get .0003s.
Thanks Maronti1
Where did you hear that they will be out by the end of July? Only wondering if that came from the company itself.
Thanks
I think all he was saying by that is EESO will eventually buy out Jared's shares as he owns 25%.
Jared, This was a great PR, and I for one thank you for keeping us informed and up-to-date. The sad fact is that it, and every PR like it, will be wasted because no one wants to buy thinking you are just waiting to dilute. I am personaly down 85% and still believe in your company. I am actually waiting to put more money into this as soon as there is confirmation from you the dilution has ended for now. I'm not really sure what else can be said about this, it has been discussed to death on here. I like your company and believe it will do well, but this stock is going nowhere until you PR the end of dilution.
I think it's fairly obvious that they want to dump the rest of the O/S before they say anything about dilution slowing/stopping. I wish it would just be over and done with. They're dumping on news so everyone classifies this as a pump and dump, truth is, they couldn't get rid of these shares without it, no one trusts them anymore. I hope that last 75k is worth it.
Did anyone get any 0.0004 shares today?
What site are you talking about?
Jared, I think you are finally at a point of no return crossroads. If you dilute anymore, I think your gonna lose quite a few investors, but if you release a PR stating no more dilution, I think you'll have a 50-50 shot at pulling this thing out of the fire. The company and stock are two different entities. You may be doing right by the company but the stock is dying and you are not even trying to stop it.
Oh I ran this by my economics professor, (I emailed him asking him to look into this and let me know what he thought), I'm not sure you care but I will let you know what he thinks when he gets back to me.
All I can say from here is good luck to us all.
To be perfectly honest, I think it would take a few months to sell another 130M+. No one is buying now, imagine if there was another dump of shares. I bet half the longs would sell everything they have in fear of losing what little money they have left. IMO of coarse.
I hope everyone is well aware that they are waiting for people to think they are done diluting by giving us a few days rest then just as volume picks up they will hit us with the last 130M+. IMO
Happens every time.
UBSS can be off the ask for a week or two and no one would buy this without a PR stating the end of dlilution. Whomever controls the ibox needs to put a "No Dumping" sign in the window. The good people of this board are not a landfill for garbage shares that don't amount to anything.
Now, I am a student and my free money is hard to come by. I put a good portion of it into this thinking a made a sound investment in a company I believed in. -90% later I am here, complaining because someone took advantage of my trusting nature. I am by no means a naieve person, I did my DD same as all of you. If it walks and talks like a duck is usually is. This is not a duck anymore. I am still in this for the simple fact that selling now would be worthless to me. Everything I have averaged down, even the 0008's I bought are in the red. It's gonna be a long summer with no money to do anything with.
I hope you are reading this Jared, for the simple fact that I know it is easy to brush off the name calling and blatent remarks of POS this and POS that. I thought you should hear a story from a person who really truely belived in you and you let him down. I think if I were a family man, it would be much harder to here something like this than POS all day long.
By the way, I have sent 3 emails to you over the past month and have not recieved anything back on any of them. Thanks for caring.
I think the market closes at 1pm today. FWIW
Maybe they need to slow down a bit. Was all the dilution fast enough for ya?
RickMoney, Why should we hold 'em? This is a serious question for you. I am a believer in this company and have been through an 80% loss. Everything so far has been speculation accompanied with "panic" dilution. The shareholder value for the longs is non-exsistent. Why should we believe? Please give me something to hold on to here. Are we to expect more dilution tomorrow? Are my shares going to be worth 1/8th what they were a month ago?
We have helped you, now it's your turn to help us.
Jared do you understand? You can put out all the youtube vids you want, the general concensus around here is that everyone is done losing money here. We want a return on our investment, or atleast something to believe in. Trust is lost.
I'm averaged down to .003 and am looking to buy more but there is no way in he11 I'm losing anymore money in this with out proof of some kind of return. My patience is all used up.
Don't believe it for a second. They are not done diluting until they say they are done diluting.
By the looks of it the rest will be in the float tomorrow or Wed. (We are going for a record 5 days without dumping! lol)
Fair enough.
What makes you think they haven't submitted the forms and are waiting for appoval?
They had to buy at a level that would lose them money in the beginning, otherwise, it would be an open and close case on insider trading.
Looks like the only thing that's gonna save us is a pr stating, no more dilution. The "big pr" and youtube vid did nothing, the pps is still going down. Do you hear this Jared? No One wants to put more money in this until they know the share ratio will be 1:1 tomorrow. (one share is really worth one share, not 1/3rd of a share)
Well stated.
People like to nit-pick at everything they think they see in something that maybe risky. If they are venting their own worries, then by all means, let them. You can't really take anything bashers say to heart because they either hold a position, in which case they are only hurting themselves, or they are afraid they got out before they should have, and want to be reassured they made the right decision. It seems pretty clear to anyone who payed attention in freshman psyc.
MM for you Razor, thanks for setting so many minds at ease today.
Well, based on trading here today, I don't think Jared could dilute more if he wanted. No one will buy them.
That was a given, was it not. They would have gotten people from other companies that got burned by him.
I posted that same prediction a few weeks ago and it seemed I was the only one who had that thought.
Here's to you brother.
We haven't seen any information on this open house as promised, but on the other hand, it's pretty much too late to cancel it. Unless they want REALLY upset out of towners who drove, flew in, and took time off work to be there.
For those of you who think this will run, will it get back to the .02s? Opinions please.
If that is true, why is the volume so low?
You can't sell to insiders either. Doesn't mean they don't.
You don't think they've been shorting all the way down? I would.