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Did you receive that important news update from SLJB HQ in Elmira, NY where there is a hot line to Dan Scott ? All things Sulja emanate from HQ. All the news you need to know when you need to know it !
A buying spree ? Do you really feel there are that many deluded "newb" investors out there (present company excepted)who would be naive enough to buy this fraudulent POS ? Surely you jest !
If I may ask, what are you you going to say to the SEC when you write ? Obviously, as a "bagholder" your desire is to see SLJB continue to trade.
Dear SEC,
"PLEASE ALLOW SLJB to continue to trade. I need the money !"
E mail sent to SEC (District Office)
Sirs:
How is it possible for a company whose corporate registration has been revoked, to still be able to trade ?
This "security" was a fraudulent "pump and dump" scheme and yet gullible investors can still be induced to buy. A promoter has been pumping this scam for more than two years and the revocation has only resulted in the intensity of his promoting activity. When the OSC action is completed, possibly the SEC can find it's way to taking action but before that time, possibly you would see fit to see that this "security" is not allowed to bilk more money from unwary investors.
https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=3jTAXTqYdC80kvn1T3%252fB8Q%253d%253d
Let us all band together and start a list of what the SEC does. I will start the list and folks may add to it as they see fit.
1. Nothing
2. spend my tax dollars on lawyers!
3. Let scam's run rampant
4. Always answer inquiries and complaints with the time honored "We will look into it". Guaranteed to get you off the hook...for a little while anyway.
Rather than contact the SEC which is just about the most ineffective agency we have, it might be more beneficial to call or write these people with a cc to your congressman. This type of thievery must cease. The Bernie Madoff ponzi scheme was just one of a multitude of cases where, through neglect or incompetence or both, the parasites in this country who perpetrate the schemes are allowed to flourish.
Maybe contacting this outfit would yield some results.
House Committee on Financial Services
Committee/Subcommittee Jurisdiction
Barney Frank (MA), Chairman of the Financial Services Committee
The Committee oversees all components of the nation’s housing and financial services sectors including banking, insurance, real estate, public and assisted housing, and securities.
I would very much appreciate it if someone much more knowledgeable than I were to tell everyone how a "security" which is no longer a registered corporation, is able to trade.
I wasn't kidding when I wrote of The Ernest/Bear Uranium Exploration Company(not a corporation) issuing an IPO. Why not, if Sulja Bros. is allowed to trade ?
It seems to me that more and more, Federal regulations are made to be broken or at least subverted. I plan to call FINRA tomorrow A.M. and ask them just how and WHY this POS scam is allowed to trade if it indeed is. Hopefully, I will be able to speak to someone other that the secretary that answers the telephone.
Hockmir,
Since you are in the "true believer" camp, maybe it would be easier for YOU to contact Steve Sulja because he seems to have permanently withdrawn and assumed a fetal position.
A poster on another board tried to call Sulja with this result.
Man answers the phone....Hello
me... Hello, I'm attempting to contact Steve Sulja
him... hesitation ....he's not here
me..any idea of when he might be available ?
him....long hesitation ......"no"
me... how do you suggest he may be contacted ?
him....long hesitation...... can you leave your phone number ?
me.... sure xxx xxx xxxx
him.....long hesitation....would you like to leave a message ?
me.... yes, tell him I would like to discuss the relationship between IT CCT LLC and SLJB
him..... long hesitation..... ummmmmmmmm, I'll see he gets the message
me....o.k. Steve, nice talking to you
Now THERE is a standup guy, LOL.
BTW, did you contact the GSA as you threatened or was that just a ploy ? Did you receive a response ?
Your persistent questing of members of this board seems inconsistent with someone who wants answers. You formulate insinuations in the guise of questions which is not terribly constructive. For answers, why don't you contact the agency with jurisdiction ?
As someone who is so astute when it comes to all things SLJB, why don't you share YOUR perspective ? You constantly request links but never post any. Why is that ? You infer that because the Canadian agencies' statements are in conflict, then there MUST be a relation between Canada and Nevada ? Just exactly what is it you are attempting to say ?
Actually, when attempting to unravel this can of worms, it was inevitable that there was some confusion. Why don't YOU write those agencies involved and ask for clarification since it seems to be of such concern to you ?
Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd (Ontario)
(the lumberyard in Canada)and Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. (Nevada)the empty public shell company trading with symbol SLJB, have nothing to do with one another.
The STORY you bought is that there was something of value here. Responses to your posts are merely Newton's third law in action. For every action there is, etc. etc.
Buy more, keep buying, it's a GREAT opportunity for you to display your acumen.
Ernest:
Absolutely. If you are not required to be a registered corporation to trade, I will initiate an IPO for Ernest & Bearluver CCT LLC. O/S of, oh say, a 32 billion like BKMP. After all, it doesn't matter to some what a company does, it's just whether the PPS is going up or down.
I was mistaken when I said IT CCT LLC's registration was revoked. It WILL be revoked by the end of June unless SS acts. Right now it's just POISED to be revoked.
I do not care about alot of things about a company. Its whats the pps is at and is it going up or down
ROFLMAO
More ridiculous SLJB claims. They just never stop.
Obviously they intend to reserse merge it into SLJB.
Mr. Sulja is an Apostolic Christian...he didn't travel out to Nevada to have dinner with the owner of CRA of America for the purpose of cheating on his wife and going wild at the crap's tables. I know he had dinner that evening because I spoke to his sister who is the receptionist there by phone. She said Mr Sulja was extremely professional and well received.
International Trading CCT LLC is sitting there clean as a whistle on the Nevada SOS site with no shares issued to it just waiting for the mother of all reverse mergers.
They bid on DOD contracts overseas. One was for billions. Othere require international presence and language fluency. This is where Mr. Vucicevich's interests come into play with International Building Poducts. Check out Steve's e-mail address...it says international builing products on it. He works for Mr. Vucicevich.
Dun and Bradstreet has them listed with 10 million in revenue through Jone of 08.
A reverse merger would force NITE's hand into covering as shares would need to retitled into the new entity's name and accounted for.
This is a prime example of what the SLJB scam architects and their shills have always done and continue to do and that is to disseminate absolute BS. In this case, they are portraying SLJB to be one and the same as IT CCT LLC which, if I'm not mistaken, is also in serious doo doo since it too had it's corporate license revoked and it's CEO reported to be a bit conflicted with his defunct business interest.
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SLJB BIDS ON CONTRACTS...AROUND...THE...WORLD... 10-May-09 10:32 pm
Y--A sources sought synopsis to award an indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity (IDIQ) Multiple-Award Task Order Contract (MATOC) for construction services for the continent of Africa.
Solicitation Number: W912GB-08-R-0019
Agency: Department of the Army
Office: U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Location: Corps of Engineers, Europe District, Contracting Division
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These financials are going to kick off one of the wildest events in penny stock history.
A feeding frenzy. A secondary audience that which in a single days time will offer more than has been offered in the past three years put together. They can't buy until then. No matter how much they want this stock.
How one behaves with their shares is up to them.
You the penny investor are totally in control of your destiny.
Hey bucky.....I guess you didn't read the post from "pal" allinone. This is the your lesson, please note the date of the post. THERE ARE NO FINANCIALS...read it and weep !
Excerpt from allinone post
Posted by: allinone Date: Friday, December 01, 2006 1:56:37 AM
What I do know is this! NOTHING from this company means anything EXCEPT the audited financials coming out. I am looking for them as well as everyone else.
Is there a difference between lying and fabricating and stretching the truth beyond the limits of human endurance ? I wouldn't exactly call anyone a liar given the litigious society in which we live today. Rather, I would say they prevaricate and fantasize to the point where there is absolutely no credibility remaining to anything they represent as the truth. It sounds so much better.
As long as SLJB trades, there will always be SOMEONE who will buy it. There is a board here on Ihub which looks ONLY at stocks selling between .0001 and .0009. SLJB is NOT on their watch list for some reason. They must have looked at it and said, no, this is TOO much of a scam.
Bucky is a bit unique. He is buying because of his stated position...that his pal, allinone made a lot of money on this scam and he feels he can too. Fascinating because the last post from allinone follows. Sure doesn't sound like someone who walked away a winner. I think maybe allinone is not as much of a pal as bucky thinks he is.
Excerpt from allinone post
Posted by: allinone Date: Friday, December 01, 2006 1:56:37 AM
What I do know is this! NOTHING from this company means anything EXCEPT the audited financals coming out. I am looking for them as well as everyone else.
Ever since the Windsor Star printed the SS statements. it has been the "true believers" position that it can't be taken at face value because everyone "knows" they were instrumental in bringing SLJB to it's knees. The fact of the matter is..... if a newspaper (or any media) prints something that is not true of if someone were misquoted to your detriment, who would not refute it or for that matter, sue the publication? You could hire an ambulance chaser on a contingency basis and there would be a line of lawyers vying to take the case.
Regardless of what is said, the Suljabberites have what they believe to be a plausible argument against it. They operate on the premise that it is all a great conspiracy. That there is a (HUGH-lol) short position out there waiting to pounce. Never attempt to confuse the issue with facts. The "believers" have swallowed the kool aid and are now full of it...in every possible way to construe "full of it".
The OSC does not have the right to hinder, that's mistake #1. Mistake #2 would be if the company doesn't IMMEDIATELY become transparent now that the OSC has taken steps to shelve this for the foreseeable future. It is ultimately up to the company to quickly dispose of any doubt and/or to correct any mistakes made, and by doing so negate any further attempts to drag this on for eternity by any regulatory agency, or anyone else.
The long investors have invested not only alot of money but for some, two years+ of our lives as well....and thus will be holding for full valuation...THEY ALSO WILL CERTAINLY BE QUICKLY PURSUING OTHER LEGAL AVENUES OF LEGAL RESOLUTION SHOULD THINGS NOT PROGRESS FORWARD IN A TIMELY MANNER, now that the OSC has chosen their path.. 14 more months is not a timely manner, by any standard.
THERE ARE TIMES WHEN POSTS JUST COME BACK AND BITE YOU IN THE BUTT EH RINGY ? HOW ARE THOSE "LEGAL AVENUES" PROGRESSING ?
THAT'S HUGH !!!!!!!!!!
Well, that's a lesson that I must digest. It is HUGH ! It is a brand new concept. What is your average cost and when do you plan to sell to capture your phenomenal gains ? Anyone as astute as you must have a game plan. I am more than willing to learn from a master investor.
HAve you been in contact with Wessal to determine if they do indeed own 25% of the OS ?
I am certain the board is eager to hear your reply.
You have to hand it to the architects of the scam. They designed it so no one could do any DD on the "cement deals". They were all in the Arab world where business is only done with insiders, usually family. If you try to verify anything at all with Sulja you will come to the inevitable conclusion that there is nothing of substance ANYWHERE, other than the money lost by investors. THAT was VERY substantial.
Try to track down "Wessal", the 25% SLJB stock holder. Now there was a mythical beast if ever there was one. So many red flags, but so many ignored them.
As usual, your DD is a bit faulty based upon erroneous bits and pieces of information you sift through.
You wrote:
AND, just because the possibility exists that SLJB MAY at some point be put on revoked status, (Not yet tho! Check the Nevada SOS business entity site and you will see that Sulja, along with both Kore and International Trading CCT LLC, are all currently on "default" status, with no expiration date listed for any of them) that doesn't mean much to me
Dear Mr. XXXXXX,
Thank you for contacting Secretary of State Ross Miller’s office. The entity in question Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, LTD will go into a revoked status Friday May 1 unless the Annual List for 2008 and 2009 are filed and the fees are paid for both years. If this entity does go into a revoked status, it may be reinstated by submitting all back fees, penalties and a Reinstatement Packet which is found on our website at www.nvsos.gov. Unfortunately, I cannot answer any trade questions; this is something you make want to seek legal council about.
If you have any questions or if we may be of further assistance; please do not hesitate to contact our office.
Thank you,
LeAnna
Nevada Secretary of State
Customer Service
www.nvsos.gov
As it relates to an investment in Sulja Brothers Building Supplies, your platitude is a trite, meaningless statement that is presented as if it were significant. It is not !
On a scale of 1 - 10, how much confidence does today's "non issue" corporate registration revocation instill in the "long" investors ?
Do you feel a bit betrayed or do you think a RM or buyout or some other form of resurrection is imminent ?
Does the threat of complaints being sent to the GSA cause any trepidation ? Do you feel Steve Sulja is just biding his time, hiding his hand, keeping things close to the vest as it were ?
I find it humorous that there are still those clinging to the idea (hope) that the scam is alive and well. It is comparable to the Stockholm syndrome or, the Heaven's Gate cult.
* Heaven's Gate was an American UFO religion based in San Diego, California and led by Marshall Applewhite (1931-1997) and Bonnie Nettles (1927-1985).[1] On March 26, 1997, police discovered the bodies of 39 members of the Heaven's Gate cult, all of whom had died by apparent suicide. [2]
The group's end coincided with the appearance of Comet Hale-Bopp in 1997.
Watch the skies SLJB longs, there's a comet a comin' !
janniebgood posted....I have heard an somewhat plausible explanation from Steve Sulja about the press releases...have you?
NO, I certainly have not. I look forward to you relating to me and to the board just what explanations/excuses Steve Sulja came up with. Please tell us what he said that convinces you that he was not cognizant of what was occurring. You have always appeared to be relative sharp, not much gets past you and yet.
If Petar Vucicevich told you he was victimized by DeVries, that he had no knowledge that a scam was being perpetrated, would you believe HIM ? If the answer is "no" why is that, since you choose to believe one of the thieves and not the others.
Ah well, let's see. You "forgave" him in order to glean more information ? I can't say I agree with that strategy nor (I would think) can a lot of other shareholders who were stung unmercifully. I hope the "information" you received from Sulja was worth something because his word sure as hell isn't. What would make you believe someone who OBVIOUSLY knew what was happening or was criminally ignorant would tell you the truth about ANYTHING ? The very LEAST he could do would be to write an explanatory/excusatory statement to the shareholders. "Please forgive me for I have only a fourth grade education" or "Petar Vucicevich held me down and MADE me sign those nasty PR's.
I really don't care that you forgave him but I sure don't want to see him defended in any way shape of form on any forum.
But that's just me.
While your defense of Steve Sulja has been admirable (from a misplaced loyalty aspect) I haven't a clue as to why the future of IT CCT LLC is an issue. As Hockmir pointed out, you have stated on more than one occasion that the two (SLJB an IT) are not related so how does Sulja's personal business fortune enter into an SLJB recovery ?
As you may have guessed, I have no love for Steve Sulja. His rope a dope excuse is crapola. If you look at the history of SLJB PR's, his name was on the majority of the misleading, nay FRAUDULENT releases. And STILL you defend him. Personally, I hope the guy is hung out to dry, through the legal system and then run through the financial wringer.
As much as I hate to be judgmental, if you are having difficulty understanding the ask, bid, buy sell aspects of securities trading, you are definitely in the wrong place at the wrong time.
SLJB is a scam, the shares of which are being "tightly held" (according to it's shareholders) and they will not sell until it (according to their belief) reaches the NASDAQ. If you had done sufficient DD, you would know this already.
Does the stock go up when people are selling or buying ?
Does this question typify the acumen of the majority of SLJB investors ?
Maybe that should be a statement rather than a question.
So who can, with reasonable certainty, tell the board what the ramifications might be when SLJB (NEV) has it's registration revoked ? Will it be able to trade and if so, how can this be if it is not a registered security ? Will the revocation be permanent ? Can it be reinstated and if so, at what cost ? I have heard that upon revocation, a name change is required and if this is true, it follows that a cusip change would also be required.
I am not up on security law or what the laws and/or requirements of the State of Nevada might be.
ANYONE ?
Hockmir,
May I refer you back to post #298854. You show me your's I'll show you mine. LOL
Let's review things again. You buy 1,000,000 shares of scammy SLJB for .0004. Then you sell 1,000,000 shares for .0008 and you make $4000 ?? That is the premise upon which you base your investing ? Called voodoo math ?
If your timing is wrong (which I almost guarantee) you will lose your initial $400 investment. There is a world full of penny scams out there to flip if that is your methodology, but investing in SLJB is MYTHOLOGY.
When you state SLJB is not a scam, you profess to know whereof you speak. So please relate how you came to that conclusion.
Would you like to post some of the reliable DD you have amassed to prove that SLJB is not a scam ? In the interim, possibly you would like to educate yourself i.e. basic mathematics and investing 101.
Sulja Bros. Building Supplies
CEASE TRADED IN ITS HOME PROVINCE OF ONTARIO
ALSO CEASE TRADED IN THE PROVINCE OF ALBERTA
OSC, RCMP & SEC INVESTIGATIONS
PINK SHEETS WARNING - CAVEAT EMPTOR
AMENDED ALLEGATIONS OF THE ONTARIO SECURITIES COMMISSION (including additional respondents)
http://www.osc.gov.on.ca/Enforcement/Proceedings/SOA/soa_20080616_sulja.jsp
OSC ORDER TO HOLD FORMAL HEARING ON NOVEMBER 16, 2009 TO DECEMBER 11, 2009
http://www.osc.gov.on.ca/Enforcement/Proceedings/RAD/rad_20080911_sulja.jsp
Hockmir, can you please provide a link that will show what the intrinsic value SLJB Nevada might be. It is my understanding that SLJB, Windsor is no longer in business so since there were no assets transferred to SLJB Nev. it would appear to me that it is worthless. If it is your contention that there ARE assets, could you please provide a link that would verify that ? If you are unable to provide such links would it not appear to you that many people still hold shares in an absolutely worthless stock ?
Thank you in advance for your answer.
So what happens in 13 days after SLJB does not comply with the SOS of Nevada requirements ? Do we throw a handful of dirt into the grave ? Anyone ??
Hockmir,
That is a thorny question isn't it ? If there were a class action, would it take precedence ?? Somehow I doubt it. The government always has first dibs. In my mind, the question is, do the shareholders not understand that there are law suits lined up wating for SLJB to declare some type of value ? Of course there is always the contingent who feel the lawsuits were dropped because the lawyers didn't think they could win. Good luck with that supposition.
Micah, the answer is to join in the class action suit if SLJB ever develops any assets. I can forward you an e mail address where you can leave your contact information if you so desire.
The Buckeye1
I just saw your post....
I wonder why anyone would have bgt 50,000 today at .0008?
No one bought at .0008. They bought @ .0001 which took the price SOARING to .0008. That 50.000 cost them $5 + commission. Equivalent to 2 Big Macs
Gee, I wonder why someone SOLD 40,000 shares today. They must have needed lunch money.
Some people have either forgotten their DD or never discovered the following which gives you a glimpse at how convoluted this mess really was. How many times must this and similar findings be posted ?
A short position in Loftwerks ? What does it matter ?
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17. DeVries also arranged for Loftwerks and, later, Sulja Nevada, shares to be issued to himself and to Kore International Management Inc. (“Kore US”) in order to sell them into the market.
18. The Loftwerks shares from Transfer Online came from the Loftwerks treasury and were distributions within the meaning of the Act. The shares were then sold through the Nominee Accounts, with no prospectus qualifying them and no available exemptions from the prospectus requirement, in breach of s.53 of the Act.
19. In directing share trading in the Nominee Accounts, Vucicevich was advising and committing acts in furtherance of trading without being registered, in breach of s. 25 of the Act.
20. In arranging for the Loftwerks and, later, Sulja Nevada, shares to be transferred into the Nominee Accounts, DeVries was committing acts in furtherance of trades in Ontario without being registered to trade, in breach of section 25 of the Act.
21. Vucicevich and DeVries continued to issue press releases throughout February to April, 2006 announcing, among other things, that Steve Sulja was Chief Executive Officer of Sulja Brothers Specialty Building Materials, Ltd., a company which appears never to have been incorporated, and that Loftwerks would merge with variously named Sulja companies, some of which did not exist.
22. In fact, Loftwerks never did merge with Sulja Ontario, or any other Sulja company, but, in the end, it simply changed its name to Sulja Nevada as set out in paragraph one of these Allegations.