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Now why would you do that!? We were having a nice, quiet day.
Now you've gone and knocked it up to .032
=)
I was gonna buy 1 share today, just to make you guys laugh.
But the 3K there sorta killed the joke.
Would have been worth the $7 though.
Zero?
I was actually gonna read the book of Numbers... just to add a little excitement to the morning.
(Little Bible humor for my God-fearing folk out there.)
Man it would be GREAT to see some .02's tomorrow.
Here we go...
Crackin' 1.40 soon. Lots lined up. 1.38's just shuffled off.
Whoa....
So that means 2,000,000 just came in, right?
Haven't wee been operating at 53,XXX,XXX ???
Here we go, little climb coming.
Someone's on the 1.33 bid now.
You DID pay good money to see that. =P
NITE's gonna go ahead and be the leader here... 1.37 =)
1 x 1.34
8 x 1.35
Very nice.
4 x 1.34
5 x 1.35
1 x 1.33
5 x 1.34
Sykes makes mistakes like everyone, and frequently has to cover to ease a squeeze. It happened on ROYL and KNKT, quite recently, if I remember correctly. I don't know if I would take his movement as necessarily being your out signal... at least in the face of other telling indicators (like yesterday's steadiness/volume/close, for instance).
Sykes' radar is on alert solely in virtue of the fact that this is a pump.
This one might have legs for quite a while. KNKT was several weeks. This thing JUST got underway.
Yeah I guess I meant that what I didn't understand was how it (i.e. your scenario) could be the case given the present price and the additional assumption that the MM's are there to provide liquidity.
It doesn't make sense to me. But frequently that's because a lot of this is new to me. I didn't intend me incredulity to be indicative of your unreliability. It was more about the limitations on my own imagination right now.
Okay, hold on a sec.
Are you suggesting that there are "almost" no shares left for purchasing (or at least in the .034 vicinity), i.e. as an explanation of why you were unable to fill your order?????
(I'm right in being absolutely incredulous, right?)
I'm in the particularly fearsome position of having dumped a bunch of TIVU, temporarily, in order to participate in this remarkable ALZM play that's kicking off right now. The intent is to raise funds to buy more TIVU.
But if TIVU begins to run before Friday, I'm caught with my pants down, and left holding the bag...
... an empty bag, mind you, that I had intended to fill with money.
Hopefully all of this is precipitate and we will be looking back in two months and so laughing at the fact that we thought we were on the brink of a run in early March.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!
(Makes running dive for Nathaniel)
I 2nd that!!
Please forebear!
Wait until Friday at close! =)
Wait.... What's that?
I wonder what's going on here.
I believe that's right.
Thanks Aitrius!
Seems like it's been there for quite some time now, no? I feel like that has been the number for a while.
I think you're right... in fact I'm sort of banking on it.
Profit take?
Anyone?
Thoughts?
At first I took you to be claiming that we'd know (thanks to the filings) if the CEO were doing so... but if it's "barring pink sheets," then we wouldn't, right?
Okay, but I guess I'm unclear how one could even know if he (the CEO) WERE doing so. What would cause someone to say that? Or is it just an inference from the stock's activity? Seems too definite a statement for that. Where would someone find out such a fact (if it were a fact)?
In a related forum, someone expressed hesitancy about TIVU because "the CEO keeps selling his shares."
But I am not sure just what this means, and what it is taken to mean.
Does it mean the CEO is selling his personal shares? How would that be known?
Or is it just another way of talking about the convertible/dilution issue? (But the O/S has been static for quite a while now.)
Any ideas what he meant and what he's basing the statement on?
(Again, this might all be obvious to everyone else. But as I say, I'm new, and a lot of talk here goes over my head. Just trying to figure out what he meant and how he knows, etc.)
Good morning everyone.
Kinda incoherent, no?
EXACTLY.
Goodness gracious.
I pull some money out of this thing just for a quick flip in order to get more TIVU when I come back, and as SOON as I do so this thing starts picking up.
Feel like I'm running back to the railroad tracks to grab my baseball hat as the train approaches.
I could sure go for some good old-fashioned, inexplicable MM activity right now.
TANK this thing! lol
Nooooooo.
Someone cripple this thing, quick, please.
I'm actually starting to like it down here... at least for a little while longer. =)
A question about MM's.
So, obviously, one would have only to have glanced at the smallest fraction of the discussion over the past couple weeks in order to know that there is a lot of suspicion about MM's and their machinations.
Additionally, such machinations are frequently presented as the 'best explanation' of some of the unintuitive movements that PPS has made before our very eyes.
Now, if that explanation is true, then I'm happy, because it just means that the primary intuitions about the stock are sound, but there is, presently, an interposing 'x' factor. And when thus removed, well, for lack of a better word, eh, 'booya.'
But my question is about the reliability of the explanation (i.e. that MM's are doing all of this).
For I have a friend who was an MM on the Options exchange, and when I relayed some of the ideas floated around here about their doings, he was very skeptical. He hadn't so much as heard of that kind of thing, or at least plausible motivation for it.
So obviously I'm trying to reconcile this semi-paradox. To me, the folks here seem quite reliable. And of course, I'm not going to doubt my friend who worked on the exchange.
So I need some additional piece of info that can mediate here.
His thought was that perhaps MM's behave differently with respect to Pennies than they do with other kinds of securities. And this seemed like a plausible candidate solution to me.
Any thoughts?
GARR!
I want to double mine so badly, but it will be a few weeks yet. And I seriously doubt we'll be hanging around here by then.
Pretty frustrating.
So, here is an untutored, amateurish thought that I have, that I'd like some feedback on.
Am I right in thinking that IF what is going on here is manipulation/suppression (perhaps for the MM's purposes in stocking up, as Bucks thinks), that it can only go on for so long?
I.e. Is it reasonable to suppose that this thing is going to sling-shot when it finally goes?
How can all of this great news/stature have NO effect... they have to EVENTUALLY right? There has to be a tipping point, where all this news catches up to the PPS, right?
It just seems to me that one can suppress the price, but one is perhaps stuffing a powder keg while trying to light a cigarette.
But what is their "motivation"?? I haven't been able to figure this out yet in all this talk/accusation of MM's. What reason could they have to behave the way that so many here are claiming they're behaving?
And how long can that motivation remain motivating?
I have a question for you savvy folk.
Help me understand... when you say "walking it down," what do you mean?
Here is the best I can guess:
The MM's are keeping the BID low despite a surging ASK, thus dissuading further purchases (insofar as the potential buyer sees that his purchase isn't worth - in selling - nearly what he is about to pay for it).
Is that right?
But how exactly does one "suppress" a BID? Is the BID just something that the MM's set? I guess I would have thought that the same pressures that drive the ASK drive the BID too. But then how can one be artificially stifled? (Assuming that my earlier guess about "walking it down" is remotely accurate).
When does this stop? I don't understand.
And Aitrus, were you posting O/S as a way of indicating that this has to be MM's, because the O/S has not gone up (thus no indication of convertibles coming in)?
Something has gotta give. They (if they are doing this) can't do this forever right? Why suppress a surging stock? For run? What?
I don't get it.
Haha.. TWO now Bucks.