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HAhah! I know you're right.
Thanks for the heads-up man.
I'm trying to learn everything I can here, so I appreciate the insights.
I guess I'm still pretty unclear about "how" MM's do their walking, and how they can be sure to profit from it, but I'm slowly getting the picture.
THERE HE IS! =)
Let's run.
I sure wish WCDO would some up to speed here. What do you think Thrash?
Yup, pulled it.
Saw another play to make.
Lot of short term plays going on right now.
nope
Also ...
(this is perhaps a stupid question, but like I said, I'm new)
Wouldn't we have to see WCDO pop up on the ask-side after he disappears from the bid? I mean otherwise what is he gonna do with the shares he's eating up.
Yup yup.
Baby's sleepin,' and Daddy's makin' money at the kitchen table.
God is good.
I'm bidding a block of 18.5K at .026
Think they'll cave and give it before the day's out?
Hey man I'm a beginner at all this, and I appreciate the insight on your reasoning. Thank you.
I really gotta upgrade to a real L2. Obviously it's serving you well.
I'm using a freebie/widget one right now. It's not really "live." Has to be reloaded.
So I'm curious why you're taking only WCDO to be that sort of indicator. Aren't there lots around him behaving similarly? I see lots at 1.74 bid right now. What am I missing?
Hey guys,
Why do you suppose that that one MM, VNDM, just sits at 2.95 like that all day??? He's been there every day.
Thoughts?
Is there any better way to spend a morning?
Big, fat, silly grin across my face right now.
Right, because one could "see the need for this product" simply by virtue of being "in the healthchcare industry" broadly speaking. Yes, obviously anyone even tangentially related to healthcare has - in virtue of that fact - a special insight into the viability of the market for this organ preservation device.
Good lord.
I would just urge everyone to keep in mind how KNKT played out after its two-day pull back.
It went on to RUN for almost a month.
We are in store for some good times here. You might regret bailing early.
Yeah gathered that.
This is great. I'm kiling on ALZM right now, then gonna come back with profits and take more TIVU.
Love this.
Dip baby dip.
Rich,
I have to posture myself on this play as if there is NOTHING substantial to this company.
No feelings involved here. Just business.
I don't know enough to play it intelligently any other way. So I'm treating it like a full-on P/D, even if there is the possibility it's semi-legit, or even entirely legit.
That's just my approach here. Do what you will. But be careful.
If you're going to bank on something longer term with this, TAKE PROFITS BEFORE you do so.
That's good sense.
I guess I'm perhaps irrationally motivated by the KNKT run that I still have burned into my memory. I got out WAY early on that, and it ended up nearly $3.
Plus, it's clear that the pump is following the same pattern here.
Locked and loaded around 1.12 avg.
Would LOVE to double my money on this. I think it's possible.
Shauno... seriously? Where are you skiing? I am SO jealous.
I almost went with my school's ski club to Jackson Hole last week... but this broke-ass grad student stayed home.
Well folks...
It looks like we're off to the races.
Hope everyone had their positions in place.
Wish you all well.
Ah! Got it. No worries. You're a busy dad after all! (So am I.)
Huh? Maybe before lunch what?
I was suggesting that this morning marked the end of the pull back.
I guess I don't get your meaning.
I'd say the folks that were predicting a two day pull-back before a second run are looking pretty good right now.
Green indeed.
Aitrus, as an answer to your question, I'm pretty sure that it has been claimed in the recent past (somewhere in these past couple months) that there are several other concrete contracts already in place. So I think many are wondering why there has been no formal news about them.
I don't recall precisely what point Shiva mentioned them... perhaps it was the CC? I don't know. But I do recall the statement. And that might be what some here are referring to.
God forbid you try to get in on the dip to .025.
They fill 1/7th of your order, then the price goes up again. Which is BS, because I'm like the only person who has purchased shares today pretty much.
So F'ng frustrating.
Shauno,
I'm just now learning how to read L2's, but I don't have nearly a full grasp of it yet.
Can you tell me what it is, specifically, about WCDO that you find indicative/telling?
Thanks.
I have a thought: THAT WOULD BE GREAT! =)
I'm anxious for two reasons...
1) Assuming this was a manipulated/orchestrated drop off... I would have expected it to dip quite a bit further. It was basically a shrug, but hardly a shake, no?
2) I (still) don't understand to whom I am to attribute this manipulation that so many interpret stocks like this as being under the control of. Is it the MM's? Is it the pumpers/promoters themselves?
Anyway, I hope you're right. I need some exercise. Let's run. =)
"On the other hand messages about other posters and their content is no allowed to be posted on this board."
Then, assuming your post was addressed to me, you're violating the rules too.
I'm VERY interested to hear what Steve has to say about both the audit and the uplist.
Do tell.
Can you explain what you mean please?
Did you mean "they"?
If so, who?
And how?
Huh?
It's been pretty interesting to go back and read the day-by-day, minute-by-minute chat room logs of Sykes' people as they followed the KNKT rise.
A lot of folks thought that first pull-back was the end of the run. Boy what a mistake!
Someone here previously suggested that the "controllability" (so to speak) of this run/pump was hampered by the fact that it was leaked, as evidenced by the surge in volume the friday before last. But I guess I don't quite understand in what way the run/pump could be compromised by this.
I guess it largely depends on "how" it is that one of these things runs, i.e. how controlled it is, who controls it, etc.
Like Shauno, I'm optimistic that we're in for a second leg here.
But that's just my untaught opinion.
Interesting bit of information I found in a chat room on Sykes' web site.
After much discussion of ALZM's activity today, one user writes:
"ALZM imo would be a no-brainer short if not for the huge number of shares I have seen market maker WDCO eat up on the 1.36 bid."
Thoughts?
So correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that we don't - at this point - have any real good reason to doubt that we are witnessing the standard pull-back pattern before the second run.
(Of course, we have the ever-present, healthy skepticism about whether MM's really have the power/means/motive to artificially suppress a price the way that this scenario envisages, but that's to be expected. I have said that I don't know why I should believe that this is what they do, but there are a LOT of folks on these boards who take it as granted.)
Now the only thing that threw us off was the muted response to the news a couple hours before close. Up until then, many of us had expected a boring afternoon (i.e. if in fact the standard pull back is a one-to-two day affair). And it seems like the stock's unreponsiveness to the news has caused some skepticism about the 2nd run. But why should that be?
After all, A) we've already seen plausible evidence that the pull back is a several day affair, and B) as someone has just mentioned, it was pretty weak news to begin with.
Let me add that, C) If the MM's really are up to the machinations some suppose, it doesn't seem implausible to me that they could succeed in spite of the news that dropped, weak as it was.
Now someone has mentioned that the fact that this pump was leaked last Friday morning (before getting underway on Monday) is reason to be skeptical of the MM's ability to carry the plan through.
But here is my question... Isn't the close that we saw today perfectly consistent with the thesis that they are having no problems at all? (Note, I'm not saying it proves it, but rather that it is consistent with it, and therefore could be evidence for it.)
Nice work dude.
That's why I love this TIVU board. You guys are on it.
This is an interesting scenario, isn't it?
The company drops news right in the middle of what appears to be a little suppression session by the MM's. (I'm just accepting/assuming that MM's actually do this in Pinkie-land. I don't really know whether or how it's true.)
So then, the question seems to be, how do the MM's handle the little surge created by the news?
Do they suppress that too and stay with their schedule, i.e. one or two days of shakedown?
Or do they cut the shakedown short and let the news catalyze the 2nd leg up?
Thoughts?
You know I was thinking the same thing.
But you don't intend that the shake itself takes 1-2 days, rather you mean a shake 'after' 1-2 days of surging, right?
In fact it seems to be recovering as we speak.
Perhaps large-scale profit-taking at 1.50 knocked us down?
We have been pretty spoiled over the past two days. Perhaps just a correction.
Watching L2's.
What makes you say $3?
Are you just basing this off the last high the stock had?
(I don't have the chart in front of me)
Okay, survey time...
What kind of legs does this thing have?
It's done by the same folks who brought you KNKT, and that was SWEET.
What do you all think? Are we nearing the end of the run? In the middle? Just getting started? (yeah right)
Thoughts?