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This is a ruling from the guy who's gonna settle this thing for us:udge: Evolution stickers unconstitutional
Markers in science textbooks violated church-state separation
Friday, January 14, 2005 Posted: 10:58 AM EST (1558 GMT)
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ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- A federal judge in Atlanta, Georgia, has ruled that a suburban county school district's textbook stickers referring to evolution as "a theory not a fact" are unconstitutional.
In ruling that the stickers violate the constitutionally mandated separation between church and state, U.S. District Judge Clarence Cooper ruled that labeling evolution a "theory" played on the popular definition of the word as a "hunch" and could confuse students.
The stickers read, "This textbook contains material on evolution. Evolution is a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of living things. This material should be approached with an open mind, studied carefully and critically considered."
The disclaimers were put in the books by school officials in 2002.
"Due to the manner in which the sticker refers to evolution as a theory, the sticker also has the effect of undermining evolution education to the benefit of those Cobb County citizens who would prefer that students maintain their religious beliefs regarding the origin of life," Cooper wrote in his ruling.
Cooper said he was ruling on the "narrow issue" of the case, brought against the Cobb County School District and Board of Education by four parents of district students, was whether the district's stickers violated the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.
His conclusion, he said, "is not that the school board should not have called evolution a theory or that the school board should have called evolution a fact."
"Rather, the distinction of evolution as a theory rather than a fact is the distinction that religiously motivated individuals have specifically asked school boards to make in the most recent anti-evolution movement, and that was exactly what parents in Cobb County did in this case," he wrote.
"By adopting this specific language, even if at the direction of counsel, the Cobb County School Board appears to have sided with these religiously motivated individuals."
The sticker, he said, sends "a message that the school board agrees with the beliefs of Christian fundamentalists and creationists."
"The school board has effectively improperly entangled itself with religion by appearing to take a position," Cooper wrote. "Therefore, the sticker must be removed from all of the textbooks into which it has been placed."
Five parents of students and the American Civil Liberties Union had challenged the stickers in court, arguing they violated the constitutional separation of church and state.
The case was heard in federal court last November. The school system defended the warning stickers as a show of tolerance, not religious activism as some parents claimed.
"The Cobb County school board is doing more than accommodating religion," Michael Manely, an attorney for the parents, argued during the trial, according to a report from The Associated Press. "They are promoting religious dogma to all students."
Lawyers for Cobb County, however, argued in court that the school board had made a good-faith effort to address questions that inevitably arise during the teaching of evolution.
"Science and religion are related and they're not mutually exclusive," school district attorney Linwood Gunn said in an AP report. "This sticker was an effort to get past that conflict and to teach good science."
According to the AP, the schools placed the stickers after more than 2,000 parents complained the textbooks presented evolution as fact, without mentioning rival ideas about the beginnings of life.
Since you don't have any shares, I have a lot more than you to look forward to.
Sure hope so, I'm ready for some good news.
Heck no, at least until they sell, and would you call it their duty to do so?
You're funny Hunter. So, by your own admission, who else would point out something negItive except a basher who has no interest. LOL
Nothing Shadow, go ahead and buy, thats's what we want YOU to do.
It's a start.
I feel better now that you compare CSHD to ENRON, maybe we have something to look foward to.
Good try, Janice, except our laws provide for a speedy trial ,if needed, and the shareholders shold be sueing the sec for taking so long, although I think the verdict is in the Judges hands, not the sec. They could give a good rip.
LOL, you're wasting good internet time Janice. You yourself know that it would have been over long ago if anyone had any proof of anything.
Certainly you're right, of course one has to have proof, and that of course noone has up to this point, only speculation.
At least I'm glad you "knew" from the beginnings, but now I have serious doubts about what you knew before I told you. I could be wrong though.
So funny that now you realize what the company was about.
That's right, but seems you and all the rest missed the whole company concept. CSHD was only going to loan money to keep companys viable, or did you not read their webpage. CSHD never intended to produce anything.
What you say is perfectly true, and lies should never be tolerated. But it's certainly not wrong to praise a companys good product or earning, I wouldn't call that a pump.
Ok, my definition of infidel, one of many, is a shorter. This person who drives a stock down by rhetoric, taking advantage of the company at the expense of the legitimate stockholder who is invested to see the company grow, not see his money stolen by greedy crooks.
You're right Hunter, scam, fraud, crook, unitelligent redneck, that's a real good definition of the NSS infidels that brought this company down, and believe me, everyone will be brought to Justice and it won't be Rufus.
Cant't understand with new energy bill offering 15b for power companies to use biomass this company is not addressing this.
Cramer says market in worst shape it's ever been, if he hadn't been shoutin maybe someone would pay attention. I can say w/o shoutin that it's true, everyone older than 60 will agree, someday people will wake up, everythings going back to the 50's and start over. After all, nothing cost more than it did then, in reality. Don't look for Bernanke to do anything. He's scared of his own shadow after his first week in office.
Sure would, and I even noticed the info requested was classified as sensitive, not unclassified.
Don't worry Masta, Janice with all her LEGAL training still has not figured out that the whole GJ SEC Judge thing produced zip. They just don't know what to do now. LOL. BTW, I will be in Rufus country in a few days. Hope I can verify that he indeed is in Ga.
Why would that be,Janice, if they have a case let them present it, I'm tired of waiting, they're just trying to find a way to cover themselves, unfortunately, they can't.
Well hey, if all I had to do was bash a company I had no interest in, well what else can I say, get a life.
Move quickly? Are they dead? It's been 8 months.
BINGO, You finally get it! And BTW, if you think the SEC is gonna help, listen to the hearing from yesterday.
Not hard time but working hard to get rid of bashers and naked shorters!
It does. It's being sued by the SEC and investigated by a Federal Grand Jury.
Didn't know that: I thought it was a hearing and an investgation, which incidently has proven nothing and a Judge who can't make a decision one way or another. And you're suppose to be our legal expert.
Right you are, and what have they decided?
I like #2. Since the very beginning I have thought this had a gov connection. But of course our counterparts would call it a "conspiracy theory". Doesn't matter after all this time, I'm long till the cows come home.
That's exactly who I thought you were.
And who are you Dr. Wonderful who comes out of nowhere with your Wisdom? LOL.
Senate hearing available on real about SEC:http://banking.senate.gov/index.cfm?Fuseaction=Hearings.Detail&HearingID=274
Hey, Masta, could you get your wife to do an analysis on Janice and Hunter? The only difference I can see is one can spell and one can't.
I see you guys have nothing to do on a nice Saturday but talk to yourselves. Please get a life and enjoy.
Next time you answer my question, how about not taking it out of context, but of course I knew how you would answer that.LOL
Since I'm not an English teacher, I'm not offended when you answer me back.
Thanks for clearing that question up Hunter, I'm sure you're correct in saying all paid bashers would identify themselves.
Just asking a question, "is it legal for people to bash a stock 24/7 when they don't have any interest in the company"?,and if so why would they? Maybe the SEC needs to take a look at certain individuals that purposely bring a stocks pps down as an occupation.
You forget Janice, if it wasn't for Rufus, Simon wouldn't have any ratings. He should be paying for those interviews.