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Pred doesn’t have eua either
Looks like pred and worx are in the same boat and yet worx has purchase order of 46 million and their stock is soaring
I don’t think they had to offer any cheap stock price deal either seems like a straight up purchase order
Yeah it’s weird isn’t it ?
What's going on ?
The Press releases brought spikes in stock prices before.
Now they aren't doing anything.
Yep a typo.
46 / 48
I think you missed the point.
And the stock is SOARING
The wellgistics order of one million just became small time
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/scworx-announces-first-installment-purchase-120010446.html
Order of 48 million kits
Stock is already ROCKETING pre market
A link to their press release means nothing
Chinese government said ten million total
I believe Chinese government you believe Preds press release
Freedom of thought
You will notice basically everything I post is backed up by links
Some things are based on what people say so that’s hard to show but the Majority of my evidence is found online
I’m not at pc now but I posted the link before about total 10 million kits sold
I’m not at my computer right now but it’s in my history of posts
The Chinese government said the entire province of guangdong has sold a total of 10 million kits. Daan is in guangdong.
All the huge pharma companies who are in guangdong 10 million kits in TOTAL
So the 38 million claim is a lie
So what test do you think people will prefer ?
An unknown Chinese test ?
Or a test developed by Stanford University ?
http://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2020/04/stanford-medicine-develops-antibody-test-for-coronavirus.html
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/04/08/coronavirus-stanford-deploys-new-test-that-tells-healthcare-workers-if-theyve-been-exposed/
https://www.twincities.com/2020/04/06/coronavirus-new-stanford-research-reveals-if-youve-been-exposed/
Well if so then PRED just got screwed by Daan because they are doing the double with 2020 Gene and 2020 Gene already have stock and sales !
Yes I thought that was interesting too
Not sure why they applied twice.
My guess is it leaves the way open for them to market themselves
"Assurance" is PREDs
But the other entry is just pure Dablood by themself
Here is the March 31 updated list :
http://www.gov.cn/fuwu/2020-03/31/content_5497451.htm
daan is number 5 on the list. You can clearly see the letter PCR in that entry which proves it is NOT a serology test it is NOT Dablood igg/igm test.
Here is the WHO website posting an English earlier version of the same list
https://www.who.int/diagnostics_laboratory/200324_imdrf_covid19_listing_update_24_march_2020.pdf
The "colloidal gold method" is another way of describing the serology test
Do you believe now that it isn't my opinion ? These are facts ?
I believe you on that.
My point is Dablood isn't on the China list
PRED said they were. It's NOT TRUE
And the attempt to cover their butts by saying Daan's PCR kit is how they are on the list is ridiculous. PCR isn't serology test, completely different. Not blood test, not antibody test.
Therefore the claim is FALSE
Their claimed %s aren't as good as PRED's Dablood test claims
I don't plan on trying to compare any claimed %s as it could be a waste of time
They both need to provide the original clinical trial data. Anyone can put random numbers on a paper
The clinical trial I got from Dablood from their test is completely different from the numbers PRED is posting so naturally I think it's another lie.
I feel build up of a crash
There is so much more I haven't even told you yet. It's gonna be GREAT !
You couldn't even make $2 with a press release of an order of a million sales
PRED will have to TOP that to get anywhere near it
Looking forward to this week. See what new lies are press released so I can have more work to do (one lie being that Dablood is on the China approved list. Already proven.)
The Daan test is PCR
PCR
PCR
DIFFERENT TEST
You can't get approved for a COMPELETELY DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGY and use that approval for something entirely different !
Here is one with DUAL CASSETTE
https://wjla.com/news/coronavirus/antibody-blood-tests-cimmune-quarantine
They are coming from here :
https://coronachecktest.com/
2020 Gene systems
If you look carefully on the packaging you will see the supplier is "Innovita"
Innovita are #9 on the China approved list
They are also on the FDA list with Dablood
Innovita = 3 points (China List, FDA permitted to sell list, In circulation and being sold in USA already)
Dablood = 1 point (FDA permitted to sell list)
Do we have any info about Dabloods test in the EU ?
I haven't seen any. It's possible since they have the CE cert and everyone and their pop was selling into Europe so it's very possible
Would be nice to see some links or documents or something to verify the sales
I already know that
But the test still isn’t approved by the Chinese government so how could it be “widely used”
There’s no evidence for that and I think that person just made it up to be honest. Hence I ask for the evidence
There’s that bold claim again
Where is the evidence that dablood is extensively used in China ?
It isn’t even approved in China. It isn’t on their list why would it be extensively used ?
Evidence please because it’s basically an unbelievable claim based on the FACT that the dablood serology test isn’t even on the China approved list
The last I read online was they could only sell to high tec labs
However I have seen many people selling to end of care already which is potentially illegal but the fda admitted they werent clear on the terms and could be easily misunderstood
“Dabloods test is being used extensibly in the Chinese medical system along with PCR and temperature readings “
How do you know this ?
For question 1 I have no idea. I would need to see the data and Regardless I’m sure the fda will have tons of experts checking these things before putting a stamp of approval on anything.
For question 2 . Logically yes these types of tests are definitely gonna help with data collection and helping people get back to work if they are reliable. Even 90% accuracy is better then nothing so certainly they can play some part especially since they are so cheap and fast. I noticed that people who were testing positive for antibodies were referred for nasal swabs to check for the virus so it seems like a step 1 step 2 thing
Germany is toying with the idea of immunity certificates which seem logical . I guess we will have to watch this space as it were.
China doesn’t seem to be using them too much for some reason. They focus on the test for the virus and yet the news here we can see is full of chatter about these tests
I have seen some reports however about people getting reinfected. Who is looking into this.
It seems this thing is changing by the day. We never know what tomorrow will bring.
That would definitely be interesting to find out
I hope you keep us posted
It would help if I understood the purpose of your questions.
This info is easily available.
For example the list on the FDA website. When you see both "igg" and "igm" in the test name then that's a test that does both. There's many on that list.
And I just gave you 2 examples of tests that are currently in circulation that test for both on the same cassette.
Another example is the only test with EUA CELLEX. This one also tests for both on the same cassette https://cellexcovid.com/
If you need more info than that if you explain why, then perhaps I can easily help.
Well when you say "single and dual cassette" I need to clarify what you mean
For example here :
https://www.tmj4.com/news/coronavirus/officials-antibody-testing-could-be-game-changer-in-fight-against-covid-19
This looks like a "single" cassette at first glance but it tests for both igg and igm on the same cassette. These are already in use.
And then of course we already know about AYTU selling to Invictus Pharmacy here :
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/04/11/coronavirus-covid-19-rapid-antibody-covid-19-testing-union-city-new-jersey/
Their dual cassette can be seen here
https://aytubio.com/covid-19/
I'm not sure if that's enough to satisfy your question.
My guess is you thought that a single cassette only tests for one antibody and is therefore inferior. I agree that only testing for one antibody isn't the way to go. Dual cassette obviously always test for both but there are also those other versions that are "single cassette" but test for both. Unless of course you still class those as "dual cassette" which is fine too. I'm not sure if there is an absolute definition to dual/single cassette. I'm happy to go with anything there. I only focus on whether the test does one or both antibodies.
Hope that answers your question
Not sure why he says days away when I'm seeing lots of news casts about tests ALREADY in use (eg Arclabs is doing a alot)
Maybe days away from officially approving and fully supporting one ?
I'm sure they are doing tests and trying to select one to be the one they run with. Maybe that's what he means
I doubt it too
But we never know what press releases are coming so you never know
I’m just not sure how they can top the last one of an order of a million so should be interesting to watch
I just called too.
First they said Abbott but when I asked them to double check they said AYTU Bioscience
I thought Abbott was using a little machine ?
So they now have these rapid tests too ?
Indeed they do
Saw some news articles today that Walmart and amazon are building their own labs to test their workers
They can’t afford to wait
https://www.letsgetchecked.com/articles/letsgetchecked-announces-new-two-parttest-for-coronavirus-to-help-frontlinehealthcare-workers-combat-covid-19/
A dual test that does both pin prick and swab to check for virus.
I assume your 924 is a typo ?
I would love to see the original paper of this test involving 424 patients.
I dont suppose anyone has a link ?
These trials are usually available online for public viewing
According to the website here :
https://www.360dx.com/immunoassays/faced-confusion-questionable-claims-fda-addresses-coronavirus-serology-testing#.Xo9keWNKiM8
They are under I think "POLICY D" which is pretty simple just notify the FDA of your intent to sell and they "allow" it. But only to specialised labs, not even point of care which some people thought was allowed but the FDA admitted that they might not have been clear
Only CELLEX so far has the EUA which is "POLICY C"
And where is the original study ?
The clinical trial info I received direct from Darui/Dablood was completely different. Involved <300 people not 424
So Darui/Dablood did 2 trials ? Maybe, but I would sure like to see the Chinese original write up/version of this 424 people clincial trial. I can't find it anywhere online.
However it was nice to see that the trial Darui/Dablood gave me WAS available online for public viewing.
Sure would love to see this 424 person trial somewhere online.
You are correct to say things like :
"We have a test that can legally be sold to labs"
"We have notified the FDA of our intent to sell the test and they have acknowledged receipt of our notification"
"We can sell our test under Policy D"
All the above are 100% accurate. The following expressions are NOT accurate :
FDA Approved
FDA Authorized
That information is based on the following link :
https://www.360dx.com/immunoassays/faced-confusion-questionable-claims-fda-addresses-coronavirus-serology-testing#.Xo9keWNKiM8
And here is what happens to companies who falsely label their products "FDA XXXX"
https://www.law.com/therecorder/2020/04/06/la-city-attorney-forces-company-offering-fda-approved-home-covid-19-tests-to-cease-sales-pay-refunds/?slreturn=20200306212016
FDA don't allow the terms "FDA APPROVED" or "FDA AUTHORISED" for PREDS / Dabloods test (at this point in time)
I will respond to EVERY instance that I see this term used for this test. Because any usage of "FDA APPROVED" or "FDA AUTHORISED" to describe this test, at this point in time is absolutely false
If you want to accuse the FDA of misinformation that's your freedom of speech.
I'm not going anywhere.
"AssuranceAB is FDA authorized"
NO IT IS NOT
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-serological-tests
"Since the FDA issued the policy, over 70 test developers have notified the agency that they have serological tests available for use. However, some firms are falsely claiming that their serological tests are FDA approved or authorized, or falsely claiming that they can diagnose COVID-19. The FDA will take appropriate action against firms making false claims or marketing tests that are not accurate and reliable."
Yes that’s how it’s looks to me too. Daan isn’t involved
"(and I call it PRED's test, because they are the exclusive provider in the US)"
I would love to hear more about the exclusive agreement. Because I haven't seen anything about that (yet) from PRED or on the internet.
Does this mean that if I try to buy Dablood kits and tell them they are for the USA the response from the sales guy would be "sorry but we have an exclusive agreement with another provider in the USA so I can't sell them to you"
Please confirm that should be result of any purchase attempts.