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Apparently most if not all SCBA Original Equipment Manufacturers have similar if not quite as good communications devices. The current market price of GRYW is a strong indication that most investors feel there is not much of a demand for Clear Calm. If it was that hot, Scott or one of the other manufacturers would be jumping to make an exclusive deal or a merger or buyout with GRYW. It's been many months now, but, nothing has materialized and except for the sale of a few units to some minor fire departments, NOTHING.
It would seem the market has already discounted practically any possible bad news except perhaps if there is additional dilution.
Can't find anybody foolish enough to pay a decent price. Are you out of money too?
Rather than getting out, you should be adding to the position here. It's looking ripe for a decent move up.
Have you purchased any "cheapies" lately. The sellers have been practically giving "gifts" to the buyers. As they said in Troy--horses for courses.
Clutching at straws?????
Your response did NOT answer any questions that I raised in my post. If you feel a response is necessary, you should first READ the post. I'm not sure what you mean by "back at ya", but I must say you are in a pleasant mood considering the recent price action of VRED or have you abandoned your position?
Since it is certainly in the interests of the stockholders NOT to be designated as CAVEAT EMPTOR why doesn't the company pursue getting a market maker an supply updated information to Pinksheets.com as virtually every REPUTABLE company have done even if in addition, it had to pay pinksheets.com for a favorable rating. To my knowledge you are the first individual to claim that favorable ratings on pinksheets.com are dependent on payments to them. They don't seem to publish a price list for ratings by category LOL.
You might check your co-asst mod's (Dinvest) posts to see what some other posters think about a CAVEAT EMPTOR rating. In that post, a link to pinksheets.com was even posted.
You might also check the current closing price of VRED to see what the outside world (those not emotionally involved in VRED and with no axe to grind) think of a CAVEAT EMPTOR rating.
Your comment is indeed a valid concern. Despite the response you received from one who should know better, the partnership with the Clements group involves ONLY introductions to POTENTIAL users of the system. Ground troops are definitely necessary to close the deals and to implement the systems on the less than certain premise that VRED has the professional ability to market and to close deals on the product.
IMO Slava is clearly avoiding the issue of a shareholder visit to the "dirtpile".
VRED has clearly earned it's designation by Pinksheets.com as CAVEAT EMPTOR for it's failure to provide adequate current information (why is that?) and the fact that it does NOT have a MARKET MAKER. All posters should be made aware that the posting of false derogatory information could potentially subject said poster to being sued for libel.
If attempting to get the facts constitutes an agenda against this "stock/company/shareholders" then so be it. Some might describe that conclusion as paranoia. Unfortunately many of the posters here are in violation of possibly the most important rule of trading/investing and that is to not be governed by EMOTION, but to analyze either the fundamentals or the technicals or some combination of both. In order to analyze the fundamentals, one needs as much factual material as one can gather. The presence or absence of a preferred stock issue could be critical for previously stated reasons.
I'm not convinced that information coming from an officer of a pinky can be taken at face value. It is always good practice to obtain independent verification. I am still awaiting word from the transfer agent as to whether or not there is a preferred stock with 100 to 1 voting rights. This is particularly important since if there is (there is one in VYON) the insiders could DUMP most of their COMMON STOCK once it becomes free trading and still CONTROL thru ownership of a relatively small Preferred Stock issue.
Mucky Muck? How about Lucky Mucky since I DON'T own VRED at an average price well above the current market. BTW my interpretation of the charts makes me cautiously optimistic that the stock will shortly break to the upside. I think the .0025 days are behind us for the next couple of weeks.
What in the world makes you believe that NWOL public will benefit from this as opposed to NWOG private.
I can't speak for others, and my position is nobody else's business, but, hypothetically, had I gone short I would have done so at the post RS equivalent of between $85 and $117. Since my investment philosophy is "Bulls and Bears Prosper, Pigs Get Slaughtered, I assure you I would have covered a long time ago with a huge profit.
Personally, my sleep is untroubled.
Personally, I believe that NWOL has a better chance of trading at
$0.0001 than trading at $1., but, the risk/reward of selling short here, does not make any sense at this point.
Very much appreciate your prompt response and the link, and also the response of Dinvest. Thank you.
The information in the IBOX is far from OFFICIAL. The OFFICIAL information can come ONLY from the TRANSFER AGENT, Furthermore, the information may be INCOMPLETE in that if it is similar to VYON (the parent company) it would have a preferred stock issue with voting rights ONE HUNDRED times the voting rights of the common stock. The IBOX for VYON excludes such information. It is quite likely that if there is a preferred stock for VRED, that the IBOX would NOT contain such information. The VYON IBOX has ALWAYS omitted that information. Since the company has chosen thus far not to provide this information to pinksheets.com, the transfer agent is the only reliable source for this information.
Some posters are apparently permanent residents of fantasy land. If The MOU meant anything at all, insiders would know about it and bid the price up well over $13 not THIRTEEN CENTS. These posters in their world of fantasy also think that the value of the Nwol stock has a relationship to the price of oil.
If it has any relationship, it is an inverse relationship which could be shown by comparing a chart of oil prices with that of NWOL.
Thank you. With all the pumping about CLEAR CALM, I had completely forgotten about the two other divisions. Apparently, so has the Company, because, I have seen no PR's in connection with the other companies in quite some time.
Quite frankly, I am unaware of any other product offerings. I would certainly appreciate your adding to my fund of knowledge.
BTW, VRED's Common stock structure is no longer being kept secret. I received an e-mail today from the TA indicating that as of this morning, there are 5,000,000.000 (that's FIVE BILLION) shares authorized with 3,723,967,467 issued and outstanding of which 2,975,886,037 are restricted and 415,081,428 free trading.
Since 2,975,886,037 plus 415,081,428 do not add up to 3,723,967,467, I have e-mailed the TA for clarification even though the difference is a mere 333 million shares--if you're picky, 333,000,002.
There is no mention of preferred stock and since VYON has a preferred stock class (with significant voting privileges) I would guess that VRED may be similarly organized, I have once again e-mailed the TA with respect to the preferred.
It would appear as of 4:10 PM EST that it will probably NOT be Tuesday. Either your sources are unreliable or your crystal ball sucks. of course if something comes out within the next few hours I will have to eat my words, but, that is doubtful.
BTW, it would appear that VRED has absolutely no marketing capability in the area of Universities and probably not even major colleges.
As stated previously, the Clements Group has no apparent experience in IT and their efforts appear to be focused exclusively on Community/Technical Colleges (read SMALL colleges) and K-12 School Districts. Furthermore, their contribution to the company's marketing efforts appear to be primarily, providing introductions to their customers. Who is doing the actual marketing? The COO's experience seems to be limited as far as his past employment is concerned. It's nice, that he has a history of leading top ranked award winning school systems, but he apparently has absolutely NO EXPERIENCE in running a for profit company. It would appear that his only experience relative to VRED's line of product is his being a "past MEMBER of Columbia University's Blue Ribbon Panel on School violence". How long ago, who knows? How relevant to selling the product, who knows?
Here we are three and one half months into 2008 and we still have (unless the company is hiding it's accomplishments LOL) ONLY the South Colonie Schools and the Mechanicville schools as purchasers of the product.
IMO, the stock is OVERPRICED at these levels.
Where are you getting your prices from? Ameriturd has it at .0021 bid .0003 asked. You still can't sell yours at your hoped for price of .0025---you are still lookinforaquarter give or take a decimal or two. LOL
Mirky Mark
I still maintain that there is no significant demand for this product. I believe the only sales they will get are from outfits that purchased the Scott product sans the communication device and that won't be enough to keep the company afloat.
What is the name of this service that applies ratings (including quicksand ratings) to stocks?
Still have not seen any PR's about any Universities signing up. Don't even think it's being marketed to universities (but then again I don't think it is marketable to universities for previously-hotly contested-- stated reasons) since the Clements Group target audience is Community/Technical Colleges and K-12 school districts and they do not appear to have any particular expertise in IT, it seems that the University Marketing if any, must be done thru other means.
Good luck---but I think you will see a LOT of selling at .18 to .20--If I were in your position, if it gets up to .175, I would sell at least one half of my trading position. If you follow my advice and it turns out wrong, you can always sue me.
I read somewhere "There are none so blind as those who will not see." That certainly applies to some of the posters here, present company excepted of course.
I was hoping for some pinkies to add to my "avoid like the plague list". These are Nasdaq with legitimate, if speculative prospects. I will keep an eye on them. Thanks
It is now past the middle of April and still no updates on the pinksheets.com.
Is that you looking to flip on the asked? LOL
The British would say, that it was a Buddy er I mean bloody Rich mix.
How much do you think they will be willing to pay? With the price of oil setting new records every day, and now being nearly double what it was in 2006, it has to be more than $217. Myself, I would rather see a merger with AURC. The merged company with their reserves of Oil, Gold, Platinum, Iron, Vodka (u name it we got it) would be a world class PINKY, probably worth at least as much as Google on a per share basis--- Oh I forgot---they misspoke about the Vodka.
Perhaps NWOL is the buyer as part of their previously stated buyback program. LOL
Just curious. Are YOU the good support at this range? LOL
Certainly, since the company was the one that originally invited shareholders to visit, one would think that a favorable response to being taken up on the offer would be communicated almost immediately. The lack of such a response in a reasonable period of time, say, one week would indicate that it will not come off.
No buyers at this point, but, It's nice to see the stock up 50% on the day. LOL
ON March 28th, I e-mailed the TA (after first phoning politely and being told that requests must be in writing) asking for details of the capital structure of VRED including terms of PREFERRED STOCK, if any. It is now April 21st and NO RESPONSE. I am e-mailing the TA again today.
The usual procedure BTW is to contact the TA, NOT to make polite calls to the company, and then to get confirmation of the information provided for obvious reasons. It would be highly unusual and extremely poor DD to get the details orally, especially from a company who has yet to fulfill it's promise to update with pinksheets.com.
As far as I am concerned, the capital structure still remains a SECRET and the figures you posted lack any confirmation from the company responsible for independent verification.
For the record, the e-mail address that I was given by the TA is "signaturestocktransfer@msn.com". Perhaps if others make the same request, we can get to the bottom of this mystery.
last week, the excuse was tax week. Wonder what the excuse will be next week. If the capital structure of the company remains secret, I doubt if the pps is going anywhere. If it does, then it once again proves Barnum was right.