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Another Possibility for Komex
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Plock,+Plock,+Poland+Bielska+61+09-400&...
http://mazowieckie.turegion.pl/przedsiebiorstwo-obrotu-11.html
Notice the Name matces what was pr'd "Komes Export-Import"
Total speculation....I honestly have nothing on this deal.
MrDale,
The basic premise behind Occams Razor is that the simplest solution should always be favored over a more complex solution. Specifically in my line or work it means that a meaningful correlation using fewer variables has much more merit that a correlation with more variables.
BTW. I still only have 1/3 of the non-IRA shares certed. I'm giving real consideration to changing that.
My thoughts are this: It only takes 1-2 trading days to get certed shares back in a local account and traded. I don't expect, nor do I try to convince others to take the same view. For me it made sense to cert shares.
Also I use ameritrade and I received specific instructions about how to convert IRA shares to the preferred deal...not that I'm doing that.
PNEW
Answer this question;
Can you prove they didn't sell shares?
Now last we hear it was 815 with 40% restricted. What is it now?
I challendge you or anyone else to prove they didn't sell shares. Funny thing the only people that can prove that are them. AND THEY for some reason refuse to proven it.
So until they do. I say they sold shares. Remember the decline to .005 from 3 cents. That was the time period when you you went negative? So was it naked shorts or did the they sell shares...or did they use them for aquisitions.
BTW I, as does everyone else on the board, welcome a clarification from the company. Until I have clarification I'm taking Occams Razor as my first principle basis set.
Before you answer that. Go look up Occams Razor.
BTW I'm still optimistic. I'd trade billion shares for our current position. But until someone proves they didn't sell shares I say the did.
That post sounded much worse than it was intended because I agree with you. In the end those that are holding shares...i believe certed shares...are going to make a huge killing. Most like a multi-dollar killing. There is a reason I changed my stance and it wasn't for the 500K extra shares I bought. You can bank on that. And it isn't to liquidate my position on the run up...that isn't gonna happen for awhile.
You may be right. I may be right. truth is none of us actually no. We all know what Ron leaks. We all get info other ways. But neither you, nor I, nor no one else knows for sure.
OT, crad,
My family was all ok. My uncle works for NASA and the family was put up by them. His house (which is 3 miles inland) flooded about 5-6 ft high. He says the water was almost to the top of the Wall-Mart building in town. Seeing that devastation really put my little insicnificant problems in perspective. My wife just pulled out the pictures we took in Waveland....simply hard to believe. There was a one concrete building that had a hole punched in it from the waves. Truely shocking. I sincerely hope you and your family were all ok.
You know my Uncle said something to me that trip. He said NO makes the news and gripes (rightly so) about the lack of funding, but here in Mississippi we just pick up the pieces and move on. So true.
Cheers.
crad.
I was born in Greenville. I have family in both Picayune and Bay St. Louis. I was down last year for thanksgiving and was completely beside myself as I drove through Waveland. New Orleans was all there...just abandoned. Waveland was gone. We used to rent a house on the coast there every few years...just a stair case to know were now. Very depressing.
Anyway you know probably as well as I do that things don't change fast down there. Drive by the location in Picayune and let me know what you think. It is hard to tell from arieal photos, but I do know a lot of things in the deep south are "run-down" looking on the surface. All the cars in the back lot make it look like an old country junk yard on the surface.
Anyway I'm curious to know what you find. I'm going to try and contact an uncle in Bay st. Louis and see if he will drive by that location as well.
Whirl I agree.
I was just saying that if you look at the image of it it looks like a junk yard. At this point I'm more the willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. I'm confident that they wouldn't issue BS pr's on the magnitude of what they just did. They are very aware of what happened to Petar and SLJB.
Besides that PBLS is making real money. Paul and Ron are making a ton. No way would they risk it all over a pump and dump scam. The turning point for me was the realization that this company was moving in a totally different direction than what I originally invested in. A MUCH BETTER DIRECTION.
Yeah I'm still upset that they don't issue pr's stating that they have no intention what so ever of filing form 10 anytime soon, but the TA is un-gagged. That was a huge sticking point with me...they sold shares and I won't be convinced otherwise unless they clarify it...however they also announced a 6.6B dollar contract. I'm more than willing to trade 1B shares if that is true. If I see them continue to dilute I'm gone....and probably enough others that they will be selling shares at half a penny again. The TA will be contacted everyday until trust has been earned. If the TA is gagged pretty much everyone here will be gone. This will be a ghost board.
So...like I said there is no way they would screw everything up at this point. They want to get payed same as us. I just think that everyone needs to realize that we are looking at 2008 at at the earliest IMO.
Pro-PBLS...just not blind.
Also you don't through around name line Vine Promuto unless you can back it up. Well at least I wouldn't do that...life is to precious.
Cheers
I don't see any reason
for proof to come from either PBLS or Konex until the shares are bought. Unfortunately I think our new date is now November..sigh.
I wonder if the company realizes that the people who believe them think the stock is worth way more than 8 cents and those that don't believe them would never give their money to them?
It's seems to be a catch 22 and the company is banging it's head against the proverbial wall with this preferred deal over and over again.
My thought is this: If you didn't want that number of shares out there then why did you sell them? You can't expect to raise money on the backs of shareholders 2X without providing something a little more concrete. They also know this..now for sure. Once the first few dividend payments come out more will take the offer...perhaps myself included.
However with that said I think the Komex deal will come through. It will be interesting to see if Ted pulls it off...if anyone can it will be him.
We know PBLS is profitable...they have honored every single divy-type payment in the past and I expect that we will all see them honor the upcoming divy payment.
To add a little more to the DD Ted posted about the latest Fuel site. Sure looks like a junk yard from this image. Like I said I believe they will come through, but the games aren't over yet.
EDIT: Just google map the address.
Let me be the first say
that if we drop TOMORROW on a pr. I'm selling everything MONDAY!
:~)
PNEW,
I called back. It was ameritrade. Had it been a random call I would not have ever mentioned it.
Ok I'm gonna post this to the boards now.
As far as I know I'm the only one that has had this happen. I'm very interested in finding out if other have had a similar experience.
Yesterday I got 2 separate phone calls from tdameritrade. A little back ground is in order before I continue. I've been with tdameritrade since it was Datek with one of these accounts. The other is my IRA. As far as I can recollect I have never received a phone call from either ameritrade or Datek that was similar to my calls yesterday.
Yesterday on 2 occasion I got a call from an "account specalist" that was offering to help me diversiy my positions. In both phone calls he specifically mentioned PBLS. Now to be fair I am WAY over stacked in PBLS. There are really 2 ways that I see to look at this.
1) tdameritrade really does care about me and my investments and the want me to know that PBLS is risky.
2) tdameritrade needs to repurchase shares for clients (or themselves) that have short positions.
Now before everyone chalks this up to pure boogy man theory I'd like to point out that last year when PAIM ran hard ameritrade quit excepting buy's. They would only except sells orders on PAIM. I think there are some other instances, but this one I recall as I watched that stock daily..without position.
SO I'm not saying to buy into the whole NSS theory, but I would like to know if any other investors with deep discount brokers have had similar experiences. I'm sure it's common for the big brokerages to do this...that's why those people pay big commissions. I pay 10.99 and have never recieved any help or advice on my investments until yesterday.
BTW this is NOT why I did an about face on PBLS.
Food for thought
A few weeks ago when we found out the OS was pegged at 1.75B and we all started screaming about insider manipulation (Primarily me). While all the people were selling someone else was buying those shares. It's noteworthy IMO that the price never went subpenny during that time.
Well I wonder who was there to buy all those shares and provide the kind of resistance we needed to stay above a penny?
Just speculation...but something supported the pps during that time and I'm pretty darn sure that it wasn't any of us.
Cheers
It's definitely not coming from Murphy.
First of all Murphy isn't big enough even if we dig it 3X deeper than before.
Second of all who in their right mind would form a partnership of this magnitude when it could "potentially" all be torn apart by 1 lawsuit?
Third this isn't likely to be the last contract we see of this size.
Shiz is right. It's the limestone in between the layers of coal they want. Limestone is used to make concrete.
One thing I came to the realization of over the past week is that PBLS is NOT the same company I invested in. I originally invested in a small sand and gravel pit holding company that was looking to get out of this business and move into the oil side of things. They had just bought Progas and had high dollar land leases in Wyoming and Nevada. The amazing thing is that PBLS is actually sitting in a much better position now than it was when I originally invested. It's just going in a totally different direction than most of us thought. In fact it's probably different than Ron and Paul originally thought as well.
People look at all the pieces and how they are starting to fit together. The TA is finally un-gagged...what does that tell you? Well it tells me that PBLS is done "selling" shares. The new partners probably required the TA to be un-gagged as part of the process. They have release financials to pinksheets and they will be releasing 2Q numbers soon. Those of us that have been around a while know how big this is. So the pps didn't jump to the moon and no one got to yell WEEEEE...yet. Deal with it. Also the OS was obviously much larger than 815M shares. Well just for 1 minute pretend that all the latest news is completely true. Would you trade 1B shares for a 1B dollar contract? I would. Now I know it wasn't quite that simply, but it helps simplify things if you think of it that way. If they new partners can get one contract like that don't you think they can get more? What if 2008 PBLS actually did do 1B+ in revenue? Would you be glad the extra billion shares was out there?
Also the new partner is not buying a Billion shares to make you or I rich. They are doing it to line THEIR pockets. So while all the weak sisters sell their shares the partners will silently accumulate. I'd bet we don't have many days with volume under 10M shares. I'd also bet you that they faster the pps rises the faster they will accumulate shares. The new partners likely view PBLS as a well positioned shell company of sorts. I'd bet you anything that they will want one of their own on the board of directors at some point. PBLS could quite possible emerge as one of the power houses in the aggregate industry over the next few years.
One more thing. Anyone out there using tdameritrade please send me a PM.
Cheers.
My formal apology to the board.
I while back I made the statement that if I was wrong about what I thought PBLS was doing that I would come back and formally apologize to the board.
Well. I'm sorry for flipping out and essentially bashing this stock. I don't like part of what I saw, but I've been convinced to put that behind me and look at what the potential is...and the potential is huge.
I also owe a formal apology to Jamb for some accusations I made his way. Jamb my bad.
So you can pretty much expect a 180 degree turn in my position on this company. Things are going to be very very fine.
Dare I say, 5 years 5 dollars?
There is a lot of things coming down the pipeline and the last pr is not the end all be all...it's a step in the right direction. A very nice step.
Do I fully trust Mgmt? I trust them to build the company. The pieces are starting to fall into place and the big picture is starting to unfold. Everyone holding shares a year from now will be very thankful. Yeah I said that a year ago...things have changed. PBLS is not the same company I originally bought into. In all likely hood it is going to be much bigger. MUCH bigger.
So unless there is a reason to distrust them going forward I am unequivicaly on the side of pro-PBLS.
And for those thinking I turned negative in an attempt to by more shares. All I can say is my position is only 1/12 larger than it was before I turned negative...and that purchase was an accident. I'd also like to point out that I think any price under 10 cents is bargain basement...seriously.
I believe the future is bright for PBLS and us shareholders.
Cheers.
And once again my sincere apology to the board.
sawdin
Try this seatch
"Komex Export-Import" -Phoenix -Associates
It only turns up 4 hits total and they are all the same web site.
That is probably
one of the truest post of the year.
Flat out.
I have to agree with this:
"soon all the posts on the internet will not make a difference on pps"
That is 100% for certain.
Ren very nice
nice DD.
I would expect no less from you of course.
Cheers
I'm sitting here looking
over the day's trading patterns and I like what I see.
What I see is a lot of traders getting out with a small profit early on and then a lot of support at 2 cents.
Actually the take down was on relativly small volume. The total volume for the day was over 30M+ and we just don't get the kind of volume often. Usually when we do it's a rock hard plummet.
I don't know if the partners were buying today or if they were holding for lower. If holding for lower I think they might want to reconsider because there was some serious support around 2 cents today.
I think what we saw today was extremely bullish. We had run up a considerable amount the prior 2 days and a pull back was necassary.
Remember PBLS hasn't earned the trust of investors yet. A lot of people were expecting a fast run to 10+ cents or more. Sorry there simply isn't the trust here for that.
If PBLS is telling the truth and nothing but the truth then I figure the partners buying will move us to around 6 cents. After that it will be up to PBLS to put out AUDITED financials and increase eps year over year and quarter over quarter. At a bare minimum we need at least enough info to determine book value. I figure by 2Q 2008 we will know how true the 6B dollar pr is. Either we have a quarter with 100M+ revenue of we don't. Forward looking statements be damned if we don't.
One other thing that would go along way to helping the pps is for Ron Blackburn to cool the attitude with investors. I've talked with a few people lately that have expressed concern at Ron's disdain towards shareholders. Hey I won't take anything away from the man in regards to aquisitions, but his arrogance with regards to shareholders and market forces is flat out ignorant. Now with that said I can appreciate that he get's irritated with investors constantly calling and bitching. Well if Ron would just do the right things with regards to the company and quit talking to investors the pps would take care of itself.
Anyway my guess is still that we hit 3 cents this week. The daily chart combined with the intra-day is very bullish IMO.
Cheers.
coy I couldn't agree more.
Right now I'm content to sit a wait.
Eventually PBLS will have it's day...eventually.
PNEW,
I think you theory is perfectly rational. It's basically what I'm assuming as well.
Essentially the new parter believes that the rising pps for PBLS will offset all business expenses. Your dividend theory is most likely correct.
EDIT Actually
It looks like they re-released it this morning. That was probably a good idea.
If PBLS
should take a hard run then the money I bring in from the first 1M shares I flip will most likely be invested in RLTR.
My thoughts on this stock are basically that even if they secure a niche market it will be worth 10x what it is now. If they don't it will be worth 0. That's a penny play.
RLTR has a solid streaming technology that doesn't seem to hick-up that much. Right now the competition is very fierce in this arena. Are the odds in RLTR's favor? NO. However the risk reward potential at 7 cents is justifiable to me.
I don't currently own that many shares. More of an entry level position. I don't know about everyone else, but I am much more likely to do "real" DD on a company that I have a stake in...even if it is small.
Anyway to me RLTR is a the proverbial long shot. And as stupid as this will sound... Google pretty much came out of no where and stole the search engine market. Can RLTR do the same? Maybe. Not likely....but worth the risk to me.
So if PBLS run's hard I'd like to take some of that profit and work my way up to a 1M+ position in RLTR as well.
Or maybe I'll just move to Costa Rica...yeah maybe I'll do that instead.
Cheers all.
wave, coy, lake,
We shall see. I'm am certainly a skeptic now. Heck anyone with money in PBLS for the last 1.5 years that's not a skeptic is a fool.
However, I know, as do all of you that they have very real assets that are of interest to a lot of people. Does that mean people will be dancing in the money? Probably...just maybe not shareholders.
5 months ago I would have argued all the merits of the empire. Today I'm only going to argue the fact that I will make money on PBLS.
The old mantra of 5 years 5 dollars is a fools dream at this point. There are a lot of things that don't make sense about the last oh...5-10 pr's. However, one thing is for sure: PBLS will continue to move in cycles until it is either proven real and runs hard or proven false and is delisted.
The real question is. Who among us will have made money? I think there is no question that as of right now coy has probably made the most money of anyone on PBLS. But I think a lot of us are looking for that mythical 10-20 bagger. Will we get it? Odds say no. Gut says yes.
BTW coy. you can bet that I won't be holding 6M shares for a 10 bagger. I'm not that stupid nor that brave...I don't think.
Cheers
coydog,
This is of course only an opinion, and the real truth will be seen in the coming days, BUT.
I doubt you get a chance to repurchase those shares unless PBLS turns out to be a scam.
Don't get me wrong every advance has a pullback, it's just that we haven't actually had an advance the justifies the pr we say today.
Ok enough of me pretending I know what I'm talking about. Just ready for something good to happen here.
Holding 6M stong and waiting for a pps close to fair value.
Tedwit,
There would be no resistance until about 10 cents...which is a kind of magical barrier.
PBLS is headed up and we will likely have HUGE swings and volatility.
Personally I'm gonna hold until we get somewhere close to fair value.
exaggerations likely,
But they aren't stupid enough to out right lie..I hope.
Everyone has to make their own decisions here. For me I'm holding. This price is going much higher. dollar land? prolly not. 20-30 cents. Almost certainly.
Yeah I'm bullish again....but still a little skeptical.
There are a lot of behind the scenes pr's that havn't been released yet. A lot of good things coming.
The biggest problem right now. No one believes a word the bayou boy's say. Period.
And the best part is.
with the TA un-gagged we can very that they aren't selling shares.
It's also highly likely that the partner is buying shares since the last 2 days have been record volume days.
Shiz,
I think I heard something about being able to mine murphy 3x deeper than before?
Tedwit,
Did you click my link?
Yahoo finance has it, they are just having problems. If you clik on last Friday's pr about the TA you will see it on the right hand side.
It's there...just not easily accessible.
Xylan
"and also required transportation acquisitions to properly move the massive amounts of product to ports for export."
The news is on yahoo.
it's here:
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/070806/0286758.html
However it doesn't show up normally...therefore a lot of yahoo's haven't seen it yet.
back to back days with record volume. That's huge...and did someone say something about a 6B dollar contract?
Correct.
they can go up to 4B I believe.
yes.
~2B outstanding.
~70M restricted.
good point dlaser.
I think they may be able to give that number out.
Anyway we will all find out "very soon"
Paraphprase from Mulshine
"The TA will only be able to give total shares issued and outstanding. They have no way to track what may be restricted that I know of. "
So the TA ungagging should be a non-event.
And it had a 5 year restriction on it.
Of course it's down to about 3.5 years now.
PBLS big volume on Friday.
Points of interest on this one:
1) New parter that has agreed to purchase ~700M shares on the open market
2) Huge contracts north of 1 Billion dollars due to new partnership.
3) Q2 numbers are expected anytime
4) Tranfer Agent is ungagged as of today.
This story has been a long time in the making. It just might be time to see it all unfold. There is actually a heck of al ot more to talk about on this company than my highlights. That was just news from late last week.
FMI,
"They told me they weren't diluting, they felt using cash from sales of shares is not diluting when the cash is used to build the company."
It's still dilution. No matter how you word it. Now dilution in and of itself isn't bad and that's probably what Paul meant, but I have to agree with Asus. Paul flat out said he wasn't diluting and that he was buying shares back. He also said the OS would be around 815M.
I know that things change and every pr has a forward looking statement disclaimer but...shesh.
Anyway it's hard to dispute the fact that PBLS is setting up for a descent run up. Let's just hope we make 3-10 cents a new base point...I'm truly tired of hanging out around a penny
I think there may
be some truth to this, BUT I have to agree with Asus on the fact that they have been shady in the past.
However, if they stay open and transparent and do the things that need to be done I can see this having a value of around 10 cents. PBLS has become quite big, but let's not pretend that this growth was organic...IT was wasn't. It was on the back of shareholders. I don't care how you move the numbers or restrict the shares. The growth was done on the sly and on the backs of the shareholders.
If by some chance in Hell Mulshine is right and there is a short squeeze..then sure 25-50 cents maybe...but remember we will be compedteting with management and a new partner with supposedly multi-hundred mullion shares...ALL TRYING TO SELL.
I don't care how you shake it an OS of 1.75B+ will require a HUGE number of dollars to flow in to push this thing to 10+ cents. During Katrina the OS was around 400M and it ran from half a penny to 12 cents on Volume similar to what we saw on Friday.
ALSO factor in all the distrust PBLS has generated among the limited pool of penny traders and you start to see a less than glorious ending.
BUT with all that said PBLS is real and is supposedly really producing profit in a market that is undergoing a lot of consolidation.
In essence I'm bullish right now, but my optimism is tempered with the insight of someone holding onto shares of a promise for 1.5 years now.
Cheers.
Last time PBLS
had a volume spike of 60M it jumped from about .01 to about .03. Of course the OS was under 400M then.
Friday we had 60M shares and jumped 4 tenths of a cent. That should tell everyone that we are indeed trading with an OS of 1.75B. Or that Mulshine is wrong and PBLS is indeed selling shares from the AS to the new partner.
Either way everything will be out Monday. Personally I think everyone should expect the OS to be 1.75B or higher. That is what pinksheets say's as of right now. If they suprise us with a lower OS then that's fine, but I just don't see how it could happen.
Instead of the company issuing a pr stating what the OS is they need to issue a pr explaining the share structure in detail. We need to know how many shares are restricted and what the restriction terms are. Remember this?
"Finally, with all said and all major acquisitions completed, Phoenix will increase its activities to become fully reporting. Phoenix expects that when it files that Form-10 the total issued and outstanding shares of its common stock will not exceed 815 million shares of which approximately 40% will be restricted."
http://pbls.biz/pressrelease_content.asp?prid=82
Well we know the OS is more than that, but are there still approximately 40% restricted? If so, that would make a huge difference. We need to know if PBLS simply sold shares into the open market are used them in restricted form to purchase companies, etc, etc. I suspect a mix of both...just trying to be realistic.
So as of Friday's pr about opening the TA I've been cautiously optimistic on PBLS again. Transparency breeds trust. There are still a few missing pieces of the puzzle for me however.
1) The Full capitalization structure. Remember this?
"Mr. Alonzo commented further, "We have made the decision to make the full capitalization structure of Phoenix public very soon so as to set shareholders concerns to rest."
http://pbls.biz/pressrelease_content.asp?prid=63
2) Audited numbers for which they have supposedly spent millions on. ( The millions of dollar part is from private conversations. I don't think there is any pr in that regard.
http://pbls.biz/pressrelease_content.asp?prid=25
There is no doubt that over the past month PBLS has been on a slow steady path of increasing transparency. I think the new partners are getting it done and perhaps some of what PBLS has said in the past is going to turn out to be true.
I'm very much looking forward to next week, but I'm more looking forward to the next few quarters of numbers. I personally think next week won't mean much...we will probably settle around 3 cents and maybe even hold that level. However the real increase will come when the partner helps PBLS grow EPS and get audited numbers out.
Well we are setting up for another nice day in Boston. High of 80 I believe. Spent yesterday partying in Cape Cod and will probably spend today in the city. No sense staring at the message board and speculating on what we will all find out very soon.
BTW Cheers to all longs who stuck it out waiting on the TA to be un-gagged? This alone tells me there is hope that the rest of what we were promised my come to pass. It's just that we might not be worth 5 dollars in 5 years now!