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This morning's PR was a joke.
There's a better chance of OJ finding "the real murderer" than there is of Herzog finding "the real money."
No, actually the poster who said the CEO is unaware of the possible deal has no idea what he is talking about. But the deal makes no sense for either side unless the carbon credit arrangement is finalized.
However, your observation about an "over zealous pumper" is correct.
It doesn't matter what they do. The market has been well aware of this scam company for almost 2 years. Now that the SEC has substantiated that the market has been right, it's game, set, match. Bergamo is finished.
Those exact words are mine and were lifted, out of context, from my post. You failed to mention that I was maintaining that Bergamo AND Vista are complicit in a scam to defraud the public into buying shares from both companies. Here is my full post, which you failed to attach proper credit:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=90889633
Mr Believer, have I refreshed your recollection yet?
The Ref Member Profile The Ref
Saturday, October 08, 2011 7:10:16 AM
Re: poppystock post# 7625
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You just plan on counting your little dollars in April is all u need to know and watch. That's all the sense you will know till the book of our company leadership is out with the movie to follow. I will say Arbpro wrote and suggested if I had something to say get it out in the open. Many sources have been notified. Whats makes this so real is a past employee of the company moved in next door to me and knows where all the history is hidden and all the events. Some of the slander of the officer's with off handed comments and then laughing at the stockholder's is coming back to haunt them, some of the principals today were the one's. The men and women will be writing soon. Dude the history of acor, hsyn and up to where we are today is not pretty. You would raise your children never to act like what has happened and still going on today. Stockholder's need to know just what is what.
I don't really understand why you choose to make a fool of yourself. But, oh well....and btw I could post more like this.
The Ref Member Profile The Ref
Saturday, October 08, 2011 4:00:49 PM
Re: deadline12 post# 7627
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Wait for the book and then the movie. There are 6 people who are past officer's that serve with current person's active now. They know the story and soon all will to. No reason for me to spill the beans. The is a honest business plan going forward.
Are you referring to me?
Leeway? Why?
Explain to me how any company could reasonably believe that Bergamo could fund a trip to McDonalds for a happy meal, much less come up with 36 million dollars. Vista has a duty to the investing public to not issue PRs that it knows, or reasonably should know, has no chance of performance.
Either you believe that Vista's management is wholly incompetent or you recognize that they are complicit in a scam. There are no other choices. Ironic that I made almost the exact same observation about Bergamo management about 4 years ago. There is a lot of similarity between Bergamo's sordid history of deception and what you see occurring with Vista. And the similarity doesn't stop with the fact that they engaged the same slimy, penny stock pimp IR agency.
What happened to the prove the regulators are investigating Bergamo challenge?
Definitely a case of a half full/empty glass.
Half Empty- Lack of revenues. Lack of established customers. References to potential water purification business have been heard before. Nothing meaningful developed in the past and at some point any further hopeful references lose the effect of persuasion. Likewise, Castleberry has been operational for about 20 months and has yet to create a consistent revenue stream or come anywhere close to cash flow positive. The half-empty guy says, "little less talk and a lot more action."
Half Full - The Green Giant angle is intriguing. It offers the possibility of revenues without expense. Akin to the government paying farmers not to grow crops to reinvigorate the land. It becomes even more intriguing when you do some due diligence and find this effort may be backed by wealthy South Americans. Likewise, Hawaii progress is encouraging. The half-full guy says, "we're alive and kicking and just might make it."
Finally, would you please stop posting personal things about me on this Board? I don't do that to you. Why do you think it is OK to do it to me?
In January 2012, Bergamo announced that a 650 million dollars transfer to a Bergamo subsidiary would occur and originate from a Brazilian bank. The bank didn't exist.
Nevertheless, there were plenty of people arguing fiercely that Herzog would fix the problem and the money would arrive safe and secure.
True, but they knew what purpose the documents they were producing would serve. They knew, because it was patently foreseeable, that Bergamo would twist the documents meaning and try to lure low information investors into buying shares. They shouldn't be allowed to hide behind their disclaimers to escape liability.
Just investman agreed that Herzog was running a scam? Huh?
I've been on this board for years. My first post alleged a scam stock and I never equivocated an inch from that position.
I would think he had a number, an amount of cash, that he wanted to obtain before shutting down the scam. He probably didn't reach it and is wondering now which remote, foreign country he can afford.
Herzog stepped over the line by bringing in Vista into the scam. As long as he kept his scamming to his non-reporting entity then the feds looked the other way. Herzog's desperation to dump more shares caused him to involve a reporting company and that was going over the edge. He knew it and that is why he has not been heard from in months. Likely fled the country.
Nope, not over yet. The next step is trying to find Herzog. Time to slap some cuffs. He probably has fled.
The old geezer went just a little too far by trying to implicate a reporting company into his non-reporting scam business.
How does the SEC suspend the trading of a company with a billion in cash, cash flowing a hundred million a month, with financials compiled by a CPA and approved by an attorney, and with worldwide subsidiaries?
Man, that SEC has some nerve and as real as a heart attack. lol
There was never any doubt.
I guess those asking for "regulator" confirmation of Bergamo wrongdoing have now officially turned "negative." Sad, but it was so obvious it was coming.
No, I meant what I said. ZERO.
Saying it 10,000 times does not make it so. This is what the CPA said:
"Management is responsible for the preparation and fair presentation of the financial statements.."
Of course, this is the management that had said there was hundreds of millions in the bank in 2012 and a billion in the bank in 2011, but the same CPA debunked that nonsense by saying there was no cash balance in December, 2012.
In other words, if you want to trust a liar, then trust that you'll be lied to again.
She may have left the barn, but with the weight of 500 million outstanding shares on her back she won't go far. It will take real news to get her to break into a gallop.
There are no "if, ands or buts." Bergamo, from its inception, has been nothing but a scam. It was obvious many years ago.