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stockboy
The pps is tanking badly. IMO, the descent back to .011 and possibly subpenny has begun. I suggest you not try to catch this falling knife until another fluff pr comes out to abate the ongoing devaluation.
JMHO
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altarboy
Am not sure whether you are referring to your posts or mine, but let me assure you that, at least from the standpoint of my posts, the pumping denizens here definitely listen to every word, given the outrage and emotional violence directed at me. Never thought my simply presenting opposing views on this fine board could elicit such virulent responses. Perhaps that is a backhanded compliment on the import and truthfulness of my comments. LOL!
Now, if by "listen" you mean acceptance by the reader of what you or I might post, that is an entirely different issue and is of absolutely no consequence to me. Everyone must be free to accept or reject as he or she desires, even though those in denial will only tolerate an unwavering belief in their fantasies about the prospects of this investment.
JMHO and the best to you!
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Gcbr
So that explains why your all your past posts pumping this stock never made any sense. I suggest you get your education before issuing another post. LOL!
JMHO
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frogdreaming
I must say you are again 100% correct.
JMHO
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thesciguy
Well, like I told work2play and crissy pooh, I can't be expected to know everything. LOL!
JMHO
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frogdreaming
Excellent post. I agree 100%.
JMHO
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altarboy4
IMO, there is NO Merck deal in any form or fashion, now or ever.
JMHO from the facts of reality. But, of course, the pumpers may always prove me wrong, but their success in doing so have been approximately...shall we say, zero? LOL!
JMHO from the facts as they appear to me.
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lizm67
I suggest you try putting this whole matter into realistic perspective. The recent crapper pps was .011, and the current pps is .0154. The difference is only a sad subpenny .0044! What are you all excited about? The pig sticks its snout above crapper level for air and you start flipping your pom poms? Give it a rest until something REALLY BIG happens. LOL!
JMHO
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earthfarm
Thanks for that animation. Very interesting. Perhaps the company will issue another animation showing the flooding problem and how it will be solved. That should provide assurance for the current rumor mongers and those in doubt.
stockboy
My take is exactly the same as yours. I am somewhat curious by the recent gap up for seemingly no reason at all. The pumpers are still playing the same old cards as reasons for the current spike, but I still do not see anything of substance to warrant or sustain the increase. The dumping and consequent tanking back to .01 and below has probably already begun due to a lack of interest from the awareness that there is really nothing yet to crow about.
The recent bruhaha over Merck's anticipated association with Moffitt and how it will positively impact on DNAG is laughable. There has been no indication that Merck even knows DNAG exists, much less endorsing what it has to offer for a possible revenue deal. Merck is the number 2 pharma in the world and has sufficiently deep pockets to associate with the best personalized medicine company in the world. I believe DNAG has many formidable competitors in that field. Why should Merck cut a deal with DNAG when all the other pharmas have apparently already rejected what it has to offer over the past 7 years? Enquiring minds would like to know the answer to this question!
If you should ever decide to buy back in, God forbid, then I would suggest you wait until it retreats back to .01 or less, or after the second r/s, and hold for the "big news" which all the pumpers are saying will arrive sooner or later. All the current bagholders will just have to grit their teeth and tough it out.
JMHO
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stockhlder101
Do you think the pharmas really care whether or not their drugs will induce contraindications in those taking them? They are in the business of selling a product and increasing the bottom line for their shareholders. Why would they embrace any predictive or diagnostic protocol which, by its definition, will limit product sales? If it is a choice between the health of your liver and greater profits, which one do you think they will choose? Just some thoughts for your kind consideration.
JMHO
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Bill
IMO, he's probably thinking this is a great investment and he will be very rich soon. LOL!
JMHO
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worktoplay
Not sure whether or not it is possible for anyone, whether he is a lawyer, doctor, tinker or spy, to access any information he is not entitled or authorized to see, but I would certainly not think so. I think the patent office people should be able to tell you and your friend crissy pooh more about this. Just a phone call away for your answer, imo.
Sorry I cannot give you a more definite answer, but thanks for asking just the same. After all, I can't be expected to know everything! LOL!
JMHO
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stockhlder101
The current gap-up is of some interest, particularly since there is absolutely nothing of substance from the company causing this anomaly. I have 2 questions for you:
1. At what pps will you dump your shares?
2. Do you think this pig could ever reach .50 in the absence of any pr of substance from the company?
Thanks for your kind response!
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stockboy
IMO, a heck of a lot! LOL!
It seems you are among the very few on this board with a grip on reality. Fantasy contrived from delusional denial of the facts control the thinking of the pumpers, particularly that one who seems to be camped out here day and night spewing fraudulent comments in a desperate attempt to induce others to buy so he can recover his losses. LOL!
JMHO
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Dear bendriver
I suggest you heed your own advice: "My suggestion is read the posts, if you care to, and move on already." I would further suggest that you confine your future reading only to your eagerly anticipated 1,000 repetitious pumping posts.
JMHO
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Virgil
Again, you are trying to make a silk purse out of a very ugly pig's ear. You will split hairs and words to suit your microanalytical emotional needs but, unfortunately, reality dictates otherwise.
The pps of this pig has been, is and will always be in the crapper unless and until the company is able to boot-strap itself into a significant revenue deal. So far, absolutely none in sight. These temporary excursions above toilet water level are being applauded by you and the other pumpers as the result of divine providence. A 19% gain simply because this drowning porker has been able to stick its snout above water level for air requires no mathematical analysis to conclude it is only an insignificant and temporary act of desperation. Check out the pps history of this stock and you will be amazed.
Are you saying those who have bought in and driven the pps to the present level are sophisticated and institutional investors? I say they are unwitting and will be very saddened to see the retracement which should begin very soon.
Keep pumping, maybe your emotional angst will help pump this pig up! LOL!
JMHO
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stockboy
Am not sure what "news" is being expected by the pumpers. Everything so far has been just fluff, although I am quite surprised that some unwitting investors have jumped in to buy and drive the pps up a bit. Again, I submit there is nothing to sustain this recent turn of events and we could be looking at a quick retreat back close to subpenny after the fleet footed traders dump for their quick profits. In reality, the difference between the recent .011 and today's closing pps is only a mere .0021. LOL!
The company will have to come out with something much bigger and better for the pps to do anything of consequence.
JMHO
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fatboy22
It is impossible to talk to someone who will only see what he wants to see, read only what he wants to read and hear only what he wants to hear, all the while totally denying the facts of reality. Desperate times require desperate measures. LOL!
JMHO and good to see you posting again!
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samlion
IMO, that is not very good news about the progress of the subject patent application.
JMHO
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jever000
Your enthusiasm, although entertaining, is, IMO, without foundation. However, I could be wrong, even me, although I would not bet the farm on that.
JMHO
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DorseyE
IMO, you are a real sweetie and I think the happy managers also agree! LOL!
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bag8ger
IMO, you are quixotically wasting your time microanalyzing an investment looking for nuggets of hope and charity. I suggest you adopt a more realistic macro approach for an objective assessment, although it could result in an extremely painful wake-up call to reality.
JMHO and hope you are having a happy evening!
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gunnabeone
It appeared to me that those questions posed to you were not only fair, but very realistic. Perhaps if you were to rid yourself of paranoia and emotional attachment to your investment, you might be able to address the financing issue from a more objective perspective.
There are essentially three possible ways the company can receive its needed infusion of capital.
The first and best way is loan capital from a bank or similar established financial institution which requires an agreed upon interest rate coupled with a pledge of unencumbered assets as collateral for the loan. An important criteria for approval of loan capital is the borrower must establish an ability to service or repay the debt, something which DNAG is clearly unable to do.
The second best way is a loan coupled with a convertible aspect, such as a convertible debenture, so that the lender will have the right to convert the safer loan debt into a more risky equity position in the company if all goes well. This may be possible from a less established and more optimistic lender, but the company will still have to demonstrate the ability to service the loan, something that is not possible at this point in time.
The third way is pure equity financing which, for companies in such dire financial straits as DNAG, means toxic shark financiers, not good samaritans, who are not interested in long term appreciation but pump and dump to assure a return for the substantial risks assumed. The company knows these characters well and will most likely no choice but to jump back into bed with them again, coupled with the second r/s, in order to keep the doors open.
You somehow feel there are magical alternatives to the above based on the "intrinsic value" of what you think the company is worth. I think you will have to be more definite with your explanations. So far, they seem to fly in the face of conventional financing instruments and procedures.
JMHO for your kind perusal.
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gunnabeone
Okay, fair enough. I respect your opinion regarding "intrinsic value", an assessment not unlike that of bag8ger. My only question is why that "instrinsic value" remains so incomprehensibly unappreciated by sophisticated investors out there, but so crystal clear to those select few, such as yourself, on this fine board? We can revisit your valuation theory come March 31 when the sophisticated investors become fully advised of the stake in Biofrontera.
JMHO for your kind consideration.
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gunnabe
Interesting proposal. Assume you are the private equity financier with 10 million to invest. You see DNAG has about 455 million o/s at a pps of .011, giving it a market capitalization of about 5 million. Why would you want to risk 10 million with all the current shareholders on board when you can simply just buy the whole company for half that amount? Maybe you think the technology is so great and so many bagholders have suffered so much over the years that you are willing to exercise incredible charity to save the company and its shareholders by giving the happy managers your certified check for 10 million, with no strings attached, and hold on for the best?
Point is, I just do not see how any practical financing can be obtained without destroying whatever little the current shareholders now own of the company.
Just some realistic financial food for thought.
JMHO
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stockboy
I have recently realized you were correct all along about that certain poster and pumper of DNAG. I applaud you on your astute perception. It must have been quite difficult for a poster to transform himself from an emotionally violent fraudulent sort to an insidiously complacent fraudulent sort. LOL!
JMHO
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Sideem
It's okay, because jever000's reassurance to that woeful grad student confirmed he made the right decision at the nick of time and just before the train left the station with all the happy longs aboard.
JMHO
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johnlw
As a follow-up to our earlier discussion, it appears from this The Gold Report interview (1/03/07) that Elliott Gue says PXP, UNOR and UEX are his "favorite explorers."
http://www.theaureport.com/cs/user/print/na_u/136?x-layout=20
johnlw
Looks like it is UNI. Website link indicates CCJ has 19.5% ownership.
http://www.unorinc.com/
johnlw
Interesting. Think I'll have to follow the threads more closely. LOL!
Thanks.
johnlw
Thanks. The company was suggested as a "mega-winner" for 2007 in an email promoting Elliott Gue's "The Energy Strategist." There is no further substantive info aside from the CCJ 20% ownership.
Does anyone know the junior explorer in which CCJ supposedly has a 20% ownership interest? tia
sam1933
Congratulations on your splendid gains in buying and selling this stock! I applaud your foresight (or is it perhaps hindsight?) for its amazing accuracy and timing. The long term bagholders have much to learn from you!
BTW, did you prepare that post all by yourself or did Gcbr assist you with syntax, grammar and spelling? Just curious.
JMHO and hope you will realize that additional 1200% gain from your current investment in DNAG.
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sam1933
IMO, relying on americanbulls for your DNAG buy and sell decisions is no different than relying on our resident pumper, jever000.
JMHO, but it is your hard earned money and you should check it out carefully and see for yourself.
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stockboy
IMO, everyone and their brothers are far more intelligent than the pumpers on this board. Their judgement is not adversely affected by the agonizing weight of huge losses. That is why they are not buying.
JMHO
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jever000
Are you suggesting DNAG bankruptcy??? If not, then what ever else could you possibly be talking about? tia
JMHO
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stockhlder101
Do you know anything about this? IMO, it seems to be critical to your enthusiastic view of the Statnome bruhaha. tia
"By: lil_birdiee
16 Jan 2007, 12:23 PM EST
Msg. 363269 of 363276
Jump to msg. #
Where's the JPG article? I heard it didn't make the cut."
stockhlder101
The pps states without a doubt that tdiamonds' commentary, as posted by me on this board recently, is absolutely correct. There does not seem to be any positive reaction to the "good news" that supposedly will be published soon. Are investors doubting the truth of the pr or, more importantly, the truth of what the happy managers are doing? Nobody seems to want to buy this stock and drive the pps up.
I am not sure what the happy managers are saying or doing now. Are they really to be believed? I know they have been successful only in the destruction of shareholder value over the past 7 years. What do you think?
Is there any salvation for the long term bagholders going forward?
JMHO
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