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I thought so.....its just Roth.
I thought so.....its just Roth.
What penny stocks other than Roth are being commented on in the interest of preventing loss of college funds, home repossession and divorce? Of course the answer is none.
My case is being made for me! Mike Irving is the focus and he is just the IR guy. Why not focus on Luis Lopez as he is the CEO and president of Roth? Mentioning all these other companies like Renuin and Thwapper, but Roth has nothing to do with these....just Mike Irving. It looks like vindictiveness toward Mike Irving.
Please explain how Mike Irving has screwed friends and lost dollars?
If you want to agrue that the stock price went down from where they purchased, then this would be a common occurance with penny stocks and with most stocks for that matter.
So, other than this, please explain and not just say "screwed friends" and "lost $$ due to his lying and misleading".
Speaking of goals, my goal is not to be getting even with Mike Irving due to some perceived injustices regarding Thwapper stock. My goal is not to be vindictive. Everyone knows this.
Sorry, but where did you read that I agree with you?
Posts 10562 through 10571 have been largely debunked.
I believe the office size of 120 sq meters is correct, but that is about it.
LOL....you crack me up! The video is for some unnamed tablets that supposedly "cure" diabetes. Everyone should know that there is no "cure" for diabetes! Medications, exercise and diet can control diabetes and reduce blood sugar levels, but there is no cure.
Although its a cute video, the video does not apply to Roth for many reasons:
1) Roth never claimed Sucanon cured diabetes.
2) Sucanon was never marketed or sold in the US
Can you produce a video that mentions Roth or Sucanon? We both know that there is none.
This is just another lame attempt to connect Roth and Sucanon to articles and videos that do not apply, similar to the modified Consumer Reports article in post #4477.
Here is the full Consumer Reports article. I have highlighted in bold red the omitted sentence.
Watch out for fake diabetes treatments
Published: July 31, 2013 08:00 AM
If you see products on store shelves that claim to treat, cure, or prevent diabetes and its complications, the Food and Drug Administration wants to you to beware: it warned 15 companies last week about the illegal marketing of certain diabetes products, including Glucocil, Glytain, ProBeta’s Gynmena Sylvestre, and Zostrix Joint and Arthritis Pain Relief Cream.
What can you do? Watch out for the following product types and their treatment claims:
• “Natural” supplements. We’ve warned consumers in the past about the dangers of supplements. Some drugs labeled as “natural” were found to contain pharmaceutical ingredients that may actually harm rather than help.
• Dietary supplements. These supplements claim to treat and even prevent diabetes. These products are not FDA approved and therefore cannot make such a claim.
• Online pharmacy drugs. Online suppliers are selling prescription drugs to people without a prescription. Unapproved versions of diabetes drugs are found on these pharmacy websites.
• Unapproved OTC medications. These drugs claim to relieve symptoms associated with diabetes, but are not approved by the FDA.
Besides potential harm from the various treatments, there is concern that using these products will prevent people from seeking medical treatment and FDA-approved drugs.
Here are three generic, low-cost options that our CR Best Buy Drug experts recommend you discuss with your doctor:
• Metformin and Metformin Sustained Release (alone or with glipizide or glimepiride)
• Glipizide and Glipizide Sustained release (alone or with metformin
• Glimepiride (alone or with metformin)
In addition to taking medicine, it’s important to closely monitor your blood sugar. In our tests of blood glucose meters, the Accu-Chek Aviva and the FreeStyle Freedom Lite were two that came out on top. Results from blood glucose meters can help patients make adjustments to diet, exercise, and treatment plans. Close monitoring can help to lower the risk of diabetes-related issues, such as kidney disease and seizures.
Although there are no reported injuries yet, according to the FDA, the agency urged people who have experienced any side effects to report them through an online form.
— Ciara Rafferty
LOL....you crack me up! The video is for some unnamed tablets that supposedly "cure" diabetes. Everyone knows that there is no "cure" for diabetes!
Although its a cute video, the video does not apply to Roth for many reasons:
As I suspected, you refuse to do DD.
If I witnessed a car accident and then checked the police website and there was no report, then the accident never happened. After all, the police website is the OFFICIAL information.
I did my DD but you refuse to pick up the phone a dial.
For credibility, call Nevada and post what they tell you.
This is a golden opportunity, but you have to make the call.
We all anxiously await the results.
You should call them and post what they tell you. Why don't you do this?
Sorry, the website is not current as of this morning. A quick phone call will confirm that Roth owes no money to Nevada.
When two information sources tell a different story, real DD involves some investigation to determine which is correct. Fake DD is accepting the more convenient one.
Sorry, these fees are not owed per the State of Nevada. The website is just out of date is all. Feel free to call Nevada and verify.
Please post what they tell you.
Thanks!
I am not denying facts at all. These 15 supposed facts are all incorrect and have been debunked or otherwise clarified and addressed numerous times in previous posts.
I have never modified a Consumer Reports article to mislead, but not everyone can make this claim. See post #4477.
Here is the full Consumer Reports article. I have highlighted in bold red the omitted sentence.
Watch out for fake diabetes treatments
Published: July 31, 2013 08:00 AM
If you see products on store shelves that claim to treat, cure, or prevent diabetes and its complications, the Food and Drug Administration wants to you to beware: it warned 15 companies last week about the illegal marketing of certain diabetes products, including Glucocil, Glytain, ProBeta’s Gynmena Sylvestre, and Zostrix Joint and Arthritis Pain Relief Cream.
What can you do? Watch out for the following product types and their treatment claims:
• “Natural” supplements. We’ve warned consumers in the past about the dangers of supplements. Some drugs labeled as “natural” were found to contain pharmaceutical ingredients that may actually harm rather than help.
• Dietary supplements. These supplements claim to treat and even prevent diabetes. These products are not FDA approved and therefore cannot make such a claim.
• Online pharmacy drugs. Online suppliers are selling prescription drugs to people without a prescription. Unapproved versions of diabetes drugs are found on these pharmacy websites.
• Unapproved OTC medications. These drugs claim to relieve symptoms associated with diabetes, but are not approved by the FDA.
Besides potential harm from the various treatments, there is concern that using these products will prevent people from seeking medical treatment and FDA-approved drugs.
Here are three generic, low-cost options that our CR Best Buy Drug experts recommend you discuss with your doctor:
• Metformin and Metformin Sustained Release (alone or with glipizide or glimepiride)
• Glipizide and Glipizide Sustained release (alone or with metformin
• Glimepiride (alone or with metformin)
In addition to taking medicine, it’s important to closely monitor your blood sugar. In our tests of blood glucose meters, the Accu-Chek Aviva and the FreeStyle Freedom Lite were two that came out on top. Results from blood glucose meters can help patients make adjustments to diet, exercise, and treatment plans. Close monitoring can help to lower the risk of diabetes-related issues, such as kidney disease and seizures.
Although there are no reported injuries yet, according to the FDA, the agency urged people who have experienced any side effects to report them through an online form.
— Ciara Rafferty
Sorry, but all 15 have been debunked as incorrect.
Keep trying.
Sorry.....everything in this post has been debunked.
Nice!.....only one problem - these have all been debunked.
The post does not use a valid definition if insolvent. My recent posts contains valid definitions, but this is constantly ignored.
A third graded would know that his (or her) parents owe $150,000 on the house and that they do not have $150,000 in the bank to pay off this mortgage (ie liability), but this third grader would also know that the parents make a mortgage payment (ie bill or installment payment) every month. The family is not insolvent or bankrupt as long as they make the payment every month.
Repeating that Roth is insolvent over and over will not change the fact that Roth is paying its bills and is not insolvent.
You keep posting that the company insolvent, but all the bills are being paid.
Website is up. Click to verify.
http://www.pharmaroth.com/
OTC Markets is being paid and there is no warning or red flag. Click to verify.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/ROTH/quote
Words do have meaning. Insolvent means unable to pay the bills when they are due. Roth is paying their bills and is not insolvent.
Warning: Always consider the source of information posted here.
You say "Nonsense all this is true".
Well, certainly #15 is not true as there was never a stop on trading.
I propose a new #15 as follows:
15. A Consumer Reports article was modified to remove a key sentence identifying offending products and companies in post #4477--FACT
Here is the full Consumer Reports article. I have highlighted in bold red the omitted sentence.
Watch out for fake diabetes treatments
Published: July 31, 2013 08:00 AM
If you see products on store shelves that claim to treat, cure, or prevent diabetes and its complications, the Food and Drug Administration wants to you to beware: it warned 15 companies last week about the illegal marketing of certain diabetes products, including Glucocil, Glytain, ProBeta’s Gynmena Sylvestre, and Zostrix Joint and Arthritis Pain Relief Cream.
What can you do? Watch out for the following product types and their treatment claims:
• “Natural” supplements. We’ve warned consumers in the past about the dangers of supplements. Some drugs labeled as “natural” were found to contain pharmaceutical ingredients that may actually harm rather than help.
• Dietary supplements. These supplements claim to treat and even prevent diabetes. These products are not FDA approved and therefore cannot make such a claim.
• Online pharmacy drugs. Online suppliers are selling prescription drugs to people without a prescription. Unapproved versions of diabetes drugs are found on these pharmacy websites.
• Unapproved OTC medications. These drugs claim to relieve symptoms associated with diabetes, but are not approved by the FDA.
Besides potential harm from the various treatments, there is concern that using these products will prevent people from seeking medical treatment and FDA-approved drugs.
Here are three generic, low-cost options that our CR Best Buy Drug experts recommend you discuss with your doctor:
• Metformin and Metformin Sustained Release (alone or with glipizide or glimepiride)
• Glipizide and Glipizide Sustained release (alone or with metformin
• Glimepiride (alone or with metformin)
In addition to taking medicine, it’s important to closely monitor your blood sugar. In our tests of blood glucose meters, the Accu-Chek Aviva and the FreeStyle Freedom Lite were two that came out on top. Results from blood glucose meters can help patients make adjustments to diet, exercise, and treatment plans. Close monitoring can help to lower the risk of diabetes-related issues, such as kidney disease and seizures.
Although there are no reported injuries yet, according to the FDA, the agency urged people who have experienced any side effects to report them through an online form.
— Ciara Rafferty
All of these false claims have been debunked. It's just that simple.
Again, this has all been debunked. Always consider the source of information.
Again, liabilities and bills are two different things. Here is my previous post explaining the difference:
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Liabilities and debts are pretty much the same thing. A bill on the other hand is a payment due at a particular time in the near future.
If I understand your logic correctly, if a company does not have the money to pay its long term debts then it is insolvent, so by this logic any company that takes out a loan is instantly insolvent.
I think this may get the you the Nobel Prize in Economics. Amazing!
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A person making $75,000 per year has $10,000 in the bank and then takes out a $150,000 mortgage, he certainly does not have the money to pay off his mortgage right now. He is however capable of making the monthly payments (ie bills) that might be $1,000 per month.
This person is not insolvent and is in fact doing nicely. As long as he keeps his job he can keep making the monthly mortgage payment.
Liabilities and debts are pretty much the same thing. A bill on the other hand is a payment due at a particular time in the near future.
If I understand your logic correctly, if a company does not have the money to pay its long term debts then it is insolvent, so by this logic any company that takes out a loan is instantly insolvent.
I think this may get the you the Nobel Prize in Economics. Amazing!
The $1 million debt is not due. Many companies carry debt and they are not insolvent. As long as the company makes payments when they are due they are fine.
One recent post did not make a distinction between "bills" and "debt". There is of course a difference, as anyone skilled in the art of finance would know. A bill is a debt that is owed immediately, such as your mortgage payment. The bill comes in the mail and you pay it.
On the other hand you may owe $100,000 on your home. This is your mortgage. This is a debt, but it is not a bill. It is ok to have debt as many people and companies do, but when the monthly mortgage payment (ie bill) comes due you must pay it.
A person may only have $3,500 in his checking account and have a $100,000 mortgage but he is not bankrupt. He is not insolvent either. As long as he makes his monthly mortgage payment he is fine.
I sure hope this little basic financial lesson helps you.
At least you now have a proper definition of Insolvent (unable to pay debts owed). The only fly in the ointment is that Roth is paying its bills.
And again, Nevada website is not current and nothing is owed to Nevada.
Yes, but it has been pointed out that the information is obsolete. To pretend it is current and accurate is shameful!
If I was confronted with two pieces of information that were at odds (NV website vs sweetlou phone call), I would certainly investigate and determine which one is correct.
Just picking one as you have done is not Due Diligence. I would call personally and talk to the SOS office in Nevada and get to the bottom of it. There is a famous says - "if you burry head in the sand your (posterior) is exposed".
Real DD would be calling Nevada SOS and then posting what they tell you, but I don't think truth is the priority for everyone.
Your post certainly does not reflect due diligence. Real due diligence would involve calling the SOS of Nevada and getting the latest iformation "straight from the horse's mouth" as they say, especially in light of evidence that the website informaton is not up to date.
But instead, we continue to see the same website informaion posted over and over in spite of credible evidence to the contrary.
This tells everyone that the post source is not credible. This fake due diligence is responsible for the following false claims recently posted here, to name but a few:
Website:
Recent claims that the company is insolvent because the Roth website is down. (Untrue - website is up and running)
CFO Hall:
Recent claims that Barry Hall is no longer with the company because a financial report was filed late. (Untrue - Barry Hall is still CFO)
Insolvent:
Recent claims that Roth is insolvent based on poster's made-up definition of insolvent. (Truth is Roth is paying its bills and is not insolvent per actual definition)
In this case, the website does not matter as it is not up to date. Roth owes no fees or taxes to Nevada.
Every effort has been made to convince board readers otherwise, but a simple phone call to Nevada will conform that no fees or taxes are owed.
We all await a response.
So, by your logic, if you witness a traffic accident, it did not happen until you read about it in the newspaper?
It would appear that you do not accept that sweetlou called Nevada and that Roth owes no money to NV. I believe all board readers accept sweetlou as a highly credible source.
These 15 items have all been debunked, most recently #6 concerning Nevada fees.
I am saying that the website info you keep posting is obsolete and they have not updated it yet. In this respect the obsolete information (not the NV secretary himself/herself) is garbage. So, if you cut and paste, then it is in fact "garbage in, garbage out".
Attempts to put words in my mouth and/or twist things around will not fool any readers, but rather it just makes your post look silly.
sweetlou confirmed via phone call that Roth does not owe any money to Nevada. You can make your case IF you call and IF you get a different story. Good Luck as you will need it.