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Just telling you how it is...these boards only allow so much immunity. Once you venture off them it's a rough world out there.
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Well back to lurking...good luck with your letter.
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You could be right about that...but again not the way you see it. The carriers obviously have a stake in this and if you start messing with them and INADVERTANTLY lose them money they will come looking for someone and it may not be Frank...
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It seems like they have Q on the air 24/7 so they are quite a bit ahead of us...
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You are correct in thinking that this email will get a response out of Frank, it just probably isn't the one most shareholders will like (provided you are a shareholder). I'm sure it would be infinitely easier to purge the common shareholders than to renegotiate the carrier contracts so given a choice I only see one avenue for Frank to take.
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So you are saying that they did not do a thorough investigation of Q and it's parent TMM BEFORE deciding to do business with them?
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The "funny" thing about this email is that the companies you want to send it to are the same ones who would like to screw you out of your shares. They could suck up the 60B shares without beating an eye and then RS so fast you would be crying to Frank about getting fucked by the carriers when you caused it in the first place.
Not a good idea IMO.
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FWIW thats not bad Lobo...eom
One of the things I have seen stirring the pot lately is someone was posting ( here or RBIB I'm not sure) that the last run to .0097 coincided with the following PR.
"A Private Group of Investors is in the Process of Purchasing a Large Portion of QBID Stock
PALM SPRINGS, Calif. – March 21st, 2005 –Triangle Multi-Media (Pink Sheets: QBID) the parent company of Q Television Network, was informed late last week that a private group of investors is in the process of buying a large portion of its QBID stock. The private group of investors has committed themselves to buying QBID stock up to .01."
If you look at the chart below you will see that the run happened 4 months prior to it. Just another sample of incorrect info being passed off as fact. Aloha
V=http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=QBID,uu[w,a]daclyyay[de][pb50!b200][vc60][iUf!Lc20]&....
Good luck...eom
Lobo it's kind of a piece of the whole pie.
IMO if the SEC hasn't stepped in with all the trading we have been enduring I doubt they will step in when Frank does an RS or similar.
You guys can complain that he said he never would but he can counter that he had to at the request of some major shareholders which BTW probably doesn't include us...
My point is that you wrote a letter previously and got some immediate results which possibly made Frank set some deadlines that are out of his control and now he is getting threatened with lawsuits and you pop up with another letter.
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I think you are missing the point...Frank has MILLIONS invested in HIS dream and he will will see it through with whatever it takes.
I am not singling out your attempt but also these recent threats of lawsuits.
I am CEO and majority shareholder of a privately held corp and if my shareholders sued my ass, payback would be a major mofo.
Giving the shareholders the boot would be a minor speedbump down here on the pinks, you should have been aware of this when you got in to Q.
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Good luck...I hope I don't get shafted in the process...
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LOBO...JMO but I would think that Frank has many ways to fix the problems with Q and that most of them DO NOT INCLUDE US. He is obviously very busy trying to roll this out so any more interference from the shareholders may weigh heavily on what decision he makes.
Keep in mind that I am also quite unhappy with the present situation but willing to see what unfolds.
Time for breakfast.
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Good news for Q....
1. Way ahead of the game.
2. Makes more attractive to buyers....like LOGO.
3. VIACOM is going to be scrambling as many of their other channels will fall under this category.
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Start Spreading the News: Stockgate Goes Nationwide
by Mark Faulk
After years of ignoring the stock market naked short selling scandal, the major media continues its scramble to catch up to the few internet advocates who have been warning Americans about this financial house of cards for years.
In an article released in this weeks Time Magazine, entitled "Watch Out, They Bite! HOW HEDGE FUNDS TIED TO EMBATTLED BROKER REFCO USED 'NAKED SHORT SELLING' TO PLUNDER SMALL COMPANIES", the subject of naked short selling, or more appropriately, stock counterfeiting, finally reached a nationwide audience, in a well-written and accurate article by Daniel Kadlec that quoted the same sources that the Faulking Truth, Financial Wire, and Investigatethesec.com have been utilizing for years.
Up to now, with the notable exception of a series of articles that appeared overseas in Euromoney Magazine and a few articles in the New York Post, most the major media has been conspicuously missing in action. In many instances, national coverage of this financial time bomb has been tepid and watered down, as in the case of the by now infamous Dateline fiasco....which the Faulking Truth described as "the most irrelevant piece of fluff ever aired in the history of television....the equivalent of spending a year putting together a documentary on the Watergate scandal, and then editing it down to a ten minute piece about Nixon's dog Checkers." Other major media sources, such as the Wall Street Journal, Dow Jones, and CNBC, at times seem to have joined the ranks of the criminals themselves. Considering the steady stream of.....uh, "reporters" and "commentators," like hedge fund manager and CNBC lowlife Jeff Matthews, who have found their way from www.thestreet.com, a seedy hedge fund connected website, to many of the so-called "major publications", it's no wonder that they present a decidedly slanted version of "the facts".
I think it's worth taking a look back at just how long this scandal has been ignored...ignored by the SEC, ignored by Congress, ignored by the Bush Administration, and, up until now, ignored by the media as well. Let's go waaaaaaay back to June of 2004, when we first broke the story of the Dateline expose', that was so watered down by the time it finally aired, a full year and a half after it was originally scheduled, that it was barely recognizable. This is how the Faulking Truth put it then:
It's been called the biggest financial scandal in the history of the world, with incurred losses estimated by some experts at well over $1 trillion dollars. It's a scandal that involves over 1,200 offshore hedge funds, over 150 US brokers, and has already bankrupted over 7,000 US companies in the past six years. According to many of the lawsuits filed to date, the crooks include terrorist groups and organized crime syndicates. Sources say that this scandal, which involves an intricate system of selling electronic counterfeit shares of stock in an effort to destroy the market value of small publically traded companies by utilizing a method known as "naked short selling", will eventually implicate almost every major broker in America, all of the governing bodies that oversee trading, and will extend into Canada and Europe. Amazingly, the SEC has admitted it had been "observing" naked short selling for six years, but up to now has done absolutely nothing to put a halt to it.
As The Faulking Truth has written about and followed this story over the past few months, one nagging question has remained: where is the national press coverage on this issue? Aside from a few recent articles in national newspapers, which have barely scratched the surface of this worldwide scandal, why has this been largely ignored by the mainstream media? Why hasn't one of the major network investigative shows put together an in depth expose' to blow this scandal wide open?
Puts it into perspective, doesn't it? We were warning the country about this disaster, exposing the role of hedge funds, the damage to American companies and our economy, implicating the entire brokerage system, and literally begging for major media coverage on the issue a year and a half ago, but they were asleep at the wheel while America was being raped and pillaged from without....and within.
Until now. Just as it took a hurricane of catastrophic proportions to expose the weaknesses and corruption in FEMA, it took a similar financial disaster to wake up the major media to this scandal. The multi-billion dollar bankruptcy of Refco, and their connections to Thomas Badian, a notorious hedge fund operator who was convicted of massive fraud involving naked short selling, seems to have finally lit a fire under the corporate media.
While Time Magazine finally gets it right, Congress continues to sit on their hands and do absolutely nothing to protect our country's economy. A Senate Banking Subcommittee Hearing originally scheduled for February of this year was postponed time and again, and then finally shelved altogether by Banking Committee Chairman Senator Richard Shelby (R-AL). Shelby sold every American, at least every American who isn't a millionaire, down the river.
If the money lost to Americans was over a trillion dollars a year and a half ago, how much of our country's wealth has been lost to foreign interests since then? How much of that has fallen into the hands of terrorist organizations and used to fund attacks against our own soldiers in Iraq and around the world? How much has financed organized crime activities? How many companies could have been saved since then, and how many more investors have been robbed of their retirement, and in many cases, their entire life savings?
What could we have done with the lost revenues, both in taxes and job creation? Were those the tax dollars that could have paid for repairing the flood and levee system whose failure destroyed New Orleans and half of the Gulf coast along with it? How much could have been put into education, or used to help eliminate cuts to programs that assist our children, our poor, and our elderly? How much could we have paid on our out of control national debt?
We applaud writer Daniel Kadlec and Time Magazine for finally picking up the torch that we and others like us have carried for so long, but that's not the real issue here. The real issue is this: Why did it take the major media so damn long to cover this story, and how much longer do we have to wait before our elected officials in Congress join them, and finally, at long last, do the right thing for America?
On bashers..from RB...
Whether bashers get paid or not on responses is debatable,but it is certain that bashers do exist and work for MMs who have a direct tie to hedgefunds that operate offshore..These hedgefunds are the directly responsible for the NSS that is so prevalent in today's market..
For a person to bash an issue 24/7 on these message boards and do it because they're lonely is one thing,but my guess is that they bash for a reason,whether it's self induced or to manipulate for a higher cause,makes the bashers all a part of the overall corruption in this cesspool..
Bashers are real and do work for entities to either cover a shorted position or knock the price down to acquire cheap shares..Even on acquiring cheap shares is questionable, since MMs generally do not inventory huge positions, so it's probably to cover based on shorted positions.
I noticed that Manifla is around..Well I know for a fact that this person is a paid basher and I've known him going back to 2000..There isn't one company he likes and all his posts going back 5 years have been a tenacious assault through negative,but in an articulate manner knocking an issue..He is one of the better bashers,but still a basher..
I wrote this a few years back on the assault of bashers hitting a stock through a method know as "The Bashers Roundtable"
The Basher Roundtable..
Now probably many haven't heard of the basher roundtable...
These are bashers that work for a particular MM and usually consists of 5 individuals that will work a company's stock on message boards for the sole purpose of share price manipulation and cause confusion and anxiety..
Here is how it works..
Mostly these individuals are easy to spot and at least 2 of these are just plain outright bashers that you can recognize on the daily message board circuit..But,these 5 will work one company with non-stop drilling and the choice company is usually about to gain much attention through positive everyday good numbers and potential earnings in the very near-term and will expect a share price rise accordingly..The MM's will play on such a company with tactics to gain the most out of the spread with absolute zeal..
These individuals of which 2 are outright bashers and one will be a newbie with another acting like your long or solid investor, with the 5th one,who is the most articulate and has extensive knowledge in charting or T/A and understands the fundamentals..
What happens is the bashers will of course bash a stock.These are the 2 bashers..These 2 will parley their negatives together and tells the board how the other is right on the facts and correct,they will introduce old PRs and will bring distorted information to a point,but not over do it..Here comes a newbie..He is interested in investing but doesn't know much about the company or stocks in general..He will always ask a lot of questions where the bashers will inevitably knock down the stock..This Newbie will post to one of the bashers with continous questions and feel that the basher is educating him and gains his confidence and he tells him how he appreciates his help..Now we have the long, or your solid investor who's opinion is basicaly like many others and is generally viewed has an alright participant of the board and very helpful..He will be confronted by the newbie and of course berated by the bashers,but his angle will always be viewed with much agreement as being very positive...Now we have the 5th individual..This person is very good at T/A and will make projections that seem almost real,but are generally far fetched and unrealistic,but the conclusion one can get makes for open discussion as very probable and makes you want to go out and buy more shares..He also knows the fundamental art of investing and is the head guy of this roundtable..
If you have ever been on a message board that has volume and the potential for positive share price increases, these 5 are solely their to create confusion and instability among investors and their sole purpose is having you buy and sell at their discreation..They are also very aware on how this works and their job is to make money..Remember an MM can handle 2-3 clicks in any direction and he has made his money,you on the other hand will have lost far more by selling or buying at this same sequence..
You see where this is heading!!
The moral of all this is never pay attention that would go against your better judgement or investment instincts..These message boards and the posters on these boards are all into stocks for a variety of reasons and not one is towards your best interest.
Have a good day
Varok
DK....I usually don't go back in peoples posts as a habit but today I punched in ".028" in your profile and came up with the following...so which is it? Just curious as you contradict yourself here.
Posted by: dkgross
In reply to: A deleted message
Date:3/17/2005 6:12:56 PM
Post #of 190445
$32k for me had I sold at .028.
"Posted by: dkgross
In reply to: Puzzuti who wrote msg# 135046
Date:7/10/2005 11:35:56 PM
Post #of 190446
sold a shitload at .028 Kept a shitload more because I THOUGHT Q finally had its shit together LAST year, after 6 years.
I was wrong."
Since I was sitting there watching the trading when it hit .028 (and it wasn't there very long) I was under the impression that you could have only bought at .028....
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barryinia---IMO 10 years from now the ones who are buying will be putting out PR's similar to this.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4469966.stm
Aloha...time for a bike ride.
I think we have been around long enough to know Frank isn't going to pull a fast one (he's had plenty of chances) so the outcome should be a satisfying one although late by some standards.
I'm glad I have other things to keep me occupied right now than watching L2 tick by.
Looking forward to some "good news" to accompany the financials when the come out.
Back to Maui in a couple of days....
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Oh by the way I added about 40-45% MYSELF!
Ron2w great posts and don't forget that potential buyer(s) could be scooping up shares at these low prices which in turn could mean a higher PPS for the rest of us when a bidding war starts.
Lots of positives here (more than most stocks of any kind right now)you just have to open your eyes and think about it like a business person.
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Texas town renames itself 'Dish' to get free TV
37 minutes ago
CHICAGO (AFP) - A Texas town has changed its name to DISH in exchange for 10 years of free satellite television service.
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All 125 residents of the town formerly known as Clark will get basic service and a free digital video recorder satellite TV receiver, a move that has some people joking that the Fort-Worth suburb will become a town of couch potatoes.
"We joke that in ten years everyone will come out and say wow when they see the light," said secretary Michelle Going, 32.
Going is not worried that her three boys will go square-eyed because she is going to stick to her old rules of only allowing two hours of television a day, and only after homework and dinner.
And the new system also has parental controls which will allow her to limit the channels the boys can watch.
Despite the jokes, the switch is incredibly popular, said Mayor Bill Merritt. The city council meeting to vote on the name was packed on Tuesday night and about 12 people -- 10 percent of the town's population -- stood up to support the name change, which passed unanimously.
"I'm sure there are some people who are attached to the name (Clark) like the man who founded the town and named it after himself," he told AFP Wednesday. "At the meeting last night we had no naysayers."
The town made the change for more than just a 50 dollar monthly savings per household, Merritt said. The hope is that publicity and a budget-neutral giveaway will lure new residents.
"The getting our name out there is working and the second part is really to market ourselves - come here and you get something out of it," he said.
The best part of the contract, Merritt said, is the free television will be extended to anyone who moves to Dish and any land that is later annexed by the town. The new town signs, designed and paid for by DISH Network, were a bonus.
LOL just a thought...Aloha
Maybe Frank bought a CLEAN shell for us to move into....
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LOL you could be accused of sounding just like Frank!
-off to the airport in a couple of hours, I would sure like to see some good AUDIT news while I'm gone...
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I think just the opposite-they have several revenue streams now that should be increasing cash flow. Things will start moving quickly now IMO.
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What Is A Billion?
A Billion is a difficult number to comprehend. The next time you hear a politician use the word "Billion," casually --- think about whether or not you want the politician spending your tax money.
A Billion is a difficult number to comprehend, but one advertising agency did a good job of putting that figure into perspective in one of its releases.
A Billion Seconds ago -- it was 1973.
A Billion Minutes ago -- Jesus was alive.
A Billion Hours ago -- our ancestors were living in the Stone Age.
A Billion Days ago -- No-One walked on two feet on earth.
A Billion Dollars ago -- was only 8 hours and 20 minutes, at the rate our government spends it.
Whitenoc. No I haven't heard anything regarding that. I'm sure Amertitrade would contact me if needed...
Where did you hear about this? Willy? LOL
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COOL! ALOHA
That's HOT! Thanks Fire! Aloha
Yeah! I was thinking about that this morning...just hope this is the bottom and we don't have to wait as long this time! I had no problem getting it at .0005 this morning but no takers any lower.
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sirsly00 I also switched to Mozilla Firefox when this was going on because IE became almost unusable. This Trojan seems to get stronger by usage. I was aware of it for several weeks before it really started taking control of my computer. However once it got bad I used Firefox all through the problem with no pop ups or problems.
Still using it...
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sirsly00 here is one forum on it. Using HiJackthis and following all the instructions was the ONLY way I got rid of it. The name of the Trojan is Vundo and Norton first alerted me of it but could not remove it, supposedly it will if you can get in SAFE MODE and run the removal tool, but I couldn't.
Good luck.
http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=70855
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OUCH see if you can start your computer in SAFE MODE.
Mine wouldn't let me but if you can get in the removal is a lot easier.
Unfortunately my cache is erased after a few days so it's going to take me a bit to find the right removal instructions.
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give me a few I have to find it. I assume you found Viewpoint?
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That was one of the steps.
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digital effects...some one put it out as National Geographic pic of the year and they refuted it.
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It's BAAAAAD and while you can remove it getting the trojan out is a whole other story....took me 3 days and like 75 different tries. But the final one works.
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semper look in your control panel and see if there is a file named "Viewpoint" in it...I just got rid of a killer trojan and that was one of the problems. If it is there I will send you to a link that will help.
good luck.
FWIW all of mine filled at the bid this morning...0005
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