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Nice try...BUT it wasn't the vehicle of distribution it was the mention of 1Billion that got them in the sights of the SEC. Got to get the whole story for it to be truly valuable. The need by investors to "know" and then make decisions has to be weighed by the specific information mentioned and to its intended impact.
The 1 Billion was an off hand remark without the support of a prior filing. The deal is "the NUMBERS." The SEC needs to know them first.
In my opinion, and this is conjecture on my part, that any news right know is going to beaten into salt and loose any value the disclosure might have had on the share price. Dribbles of new accounts... as valuable as they are... are being met with correspondence challenging production capabilities, mismanagement and historic issues...it is like spitting in the wind. I believe that a big announcement will be forthcoming and it squelch the nay sayers, shorts and doubters...for a while.
Sorry to disagree. SEC filing first, PR second. You might want to refresh your SEC rules of Material Disclousure. Also note that the newest SEC rules allow for that distribution of information to be as common as a web site -- such as Yahoo or a company's site -- which has given rise to a number of issues for PRWEB, MARKETWIRE and NEWSWIRE. In fact, those that republish LISA's letters are complying and contributing to that rule by syndicating the correspondence furthuring its distribution even though the letters have not contained new material disclosures.
Unbiased?I don't believe anyone is "unbiased" whether they own a stock or not. My "unbiased" view of AAPT is that they have a genius product, but have to operate within a financial culture that admonishes past failures, but hesitates to cheer future
succeses. We don't castigate our kids for not getting an "A", we support them by offering to assist and aid in their effort to succeed. Success, personal, professional and commercial builds our economy. IMHO "devil's advocates" are not "unbiased" builders.
MATERIAL DISCLOSURES: The SEC requires information of Material value to the share price be distributed to a mass audience simultaneously. This rule is usually complied to with an SEC filing followed by a PR release. But if you want to communicate with "Shareholders" and keep a dialog going by sharing NON MATERIAL information, then a an email is a convenient vehicle. I've noticed that all of the letters are posted on the web site, so nothing is a "secret."
Letters from the President's Desk: I find the letters quite refreshing and informative. Her acknowledgement of this board's members let's us know that the company is aware of the board, its friends and detractors.
DEFAULT: The installer of the rejected boiler failed to return the boiler to the manufacturer. The manufacturer sued all parties involved... lawyer's leverage... and the installer defaulted. My guess is that he was hoping to find another customer for it rather than truck it back to the manufacturer. In any case, a call to AAPT quickly resolved my question.
WALMART MOVES TO RESTOCK SHLEVESMore PO's with of larger quantities are rolling out of Shawnee and into Walmart's DC's I am told. Clearly BIG W was testing the waters before making its big committment to the first true food bar for dogs, but the bars have landed and history will be made.
I asked that same question myself. The response I got was they are in production...and wait for the news.
The share price was severely impacted by the fringe behavior of the company's former controller. Since Christmas though, the company has fulfilled numerous orders for Walmart, secured a position for its Chewies treat line with "W" and opened new accounts that will be shipped to in the next few weeks. UCLA acknowledged PAWtizer as an effective deterrant for the carriage and transmission of pathogens from pets to people and the trade show brought global players to the table. IMO that which is keeping the stock price down is not money...that can be bought. Revenues will hit the books in the next quarter. Distribution will become ubiquitous and the brand will go global. I personally like that it is taking time to happen. Keeps things real.
Call the manager of the store and ask them for the BARS.
Call the manager of the store and ask them for the BARS.
BUYING TIME! New accounts, reorders, increasing orders and new brand lines being picked up!
The talk at the trade show about the BARS held that they were a big idea -- mobile meals -- and BIG companies came a calling. Recognition, possible acquisition, co-packing and international opportunities certainly warrant a broad vocabulary when writting a "note." And wouldn't you agree that timing of a cash infusion should sync with that opportunity?
The idea of a one-trick pony company was presented as a cause of concern for investors. Plausable if accepted as fairytale, but not as a non-fiction when there are thousands of retail doors coming on board in the next weeks. If one were only to look out rather than down, Chewies carries a very high multiple which will produce healthy per unit profits as well. Not counting out PAWtizer as the marketing engine gets funded and media spreads the word, we will see revenues from that brand line too. As to investors, I heard that others are knocking as we speak. It is my belief that the company runs on its clock not ours and the time it is taking is the time it is taking. This truly aggravates those seeking immediate gratification.
Beg to differ. Alcohol is a poison. BZCL is not in a 0.13% solution and as I stated earlier this is the antibacterial agent in contact lens washes.
Not so when BZCL is used as a "cleaning" agent on a major canine species according to the CVM which has taken over moderating human monographs applied to uses on animals. The "active" in Benzocain is in a drug facts box because it is required by the FDA when used on humans.
BRILLIANT IDEA
PAWTIZER is unique in that it contain ZERO alcohol. All of the other wipe brands on the shelf contain a percentage of alcohol which is quite harmful to dogs and to dog owner's as continual exposure to alcohol is a severe dehydrator and kills all of the benefical bacteria on our skin.
PAWTIZER IS NOT A DISINFECTANT when prepared in a solution 0.13%
as noted in the FDA documents I presented earlier. The information just posted is from the Environmental Protection Agency, not from the Center of Veterinary Medicine or the Center of Disease Control or the FDA. THE EPA governs surface disinfectants which are not to be used on skin only hard surfaces. The same ingredient comparison can be made with alcohol hand cleansers and denatured alcohol which will remove paint.
In fact, the 0.13% solution is found in Bauch&Lomb's sterile eye wash and Benzocaine Ointment and the sterile pads every hospital uses for a preinjection cleaning.
Can BZCL be used as a disinfectant, YES. But that solution concentration has to be greater than 50% of its vehicle and NO FDA APPROVED MANUFACTURER WILL PRODUCE A SOLUTION GREATER THAN 0.13%.
PAWTIZER'S active ingredient is SAFE and the AAPT stock will rise from the revenues of its sales and the wellness value it extends to dog owners, their friends and families.
Benzalkonium chloride and other alcohol-free solutions are often used in preparations used for skin disinfection prior to use of syringes.
New generation, plant-derived versions are used in hand sanitizers that are more effective and safer than alcohol gels. As an antiseptic, it has the advantage of not burning when put on a wound, which is not the case with ethanol-based antiseptics or hydrogen peroxide. As the antiseptic in Bactine, benzalkonium chloride has been used safely for decades on childhood scrapes and cuts.
Biological activity
The greatest biocidal activity is associated with the C12-C14 alkyl derivatives. The mechanism of bactericidal/microbicidal action is thought to be due to disruption of intermolecular interactions. This can cause dissociation of cellular membrane lipid bilayers, which compromises cellular permeability controls and induces leakage of cellular contents. Other biomolecular complexes within the bacterial cell can also undergo dissociation. Enzymes, which finely control a wide range of respiratory and metabolic cellular activities, are particularly susceptible to deactivation. Critical intermolecular interactions and tertiary structures in such highly specific biochemical systems can be readily disrupted by cationic surfactants.
Benzalkonium chloride solutions are fast-acting biocidal agents with a moderately long duration of action. They are active against bacteria and some viruses, fungi, and protozoa. Bacterial spores are considered to be resistant. Solutions are bacteriostatic or bactericidal according to their concentration. Gram-positive bacteria are generally more susceptible than Gram-negative. Activity is not greatly affected by pH, but increases substantially at higher temperatures and prolonged exposure times.
In a 1998 study utilizing the FDA protocol, a non-alcohol sanitizer utilizing the active ingredient benzalkonium chloride met the FDA performance standards, while Purell, a popular alcohol-based sanitizer, did not.[color=red][/color] The study found that a benzalkonium chloride-based sanitizer was the most favorable non-alcohol-based hand sanitizer.[4] Advancements in the quality and efficacy of benzalkonium chloride in current non-alcohol hand sanitizers has addressed the CDC concerns regarding gram negative bacteria, with the leading products being equal if not more effective against gram negative, particularly NDM1{New Delhi Metallobetalactamase 1} and other antibiotic resistant bacteria.
USAGE DATA: effects of benzethonium chloride when used in mouth rinses or gargles for long-term use on a daily basis for oral health care'' (47 FR 22860) 88 million units of a mouth rinse containing benzethonium chloride have been used without any serious toxicity reported
Benzalkonium Chloride is Safe and Effective
Efficacy of Benzalkonium Chloride
The Agency has found benzalkonium chloride to be generally recognized as safe and effective in products for short-term use, such as first aid antiseptic drug products. See 59 Fed. Reg. at 31425; see also 56 Fed. Reg. 33644, 33663 (July 22, 1991). The Tentative Final Monograph lists benzalkonium chloride as a Category III ingredient.
Benzalkonium chloride is generally recognized as safe and effective for use as the active ingredient in an OTC antiseptic handwash.
As suggested in the Tentative Final Monograph, 59 Fed. Reg. at 31437, the following tests will provide data necessary to support safety,efficacy and persistence claims, as well as support the inclusion of the ingredient benzalkonium chloride for use in the Tentative Final Monograph for Health-Care Antiseptic Drug Products dated June 17, 1994.
In vitro Tests
A time kill study conducted per the Tentative Final Monograph
(TFM) for Health-Care Antiseptic Drug Products dated June 17,
1994.
An MIC [Minimum Inhibitory Concentration] study using 50 strains
of each organism listed in the monograph against the test product,
10 strains of each with the vehicle and a positive control (Hibiclens (chlorhexidine gluconate).
In vivo Tests
Conduct a Healthcare antiseptic handwash study as outlined in the
TFM. This study should include a total of 60 subjects, 30 treated
with the test product and 30 treated with a reference product... .
A Cylinder Sampling Test and an Agar Patch Test to demonstrate
persistence. The time kill study, the Healthcare antiseptic
handwash study and the Agar patch test were performed.
Benzalkonium chloride (concentration 0.11% - 0.13%) passed each test per the specifications set forth in the Tentative Final Monograph.
MIC study; final results of this study are expected in approximately two months and will be submitted to the Agency upon completion.
In summary:
A time kill study showed that benzalkonium chloride (0.11% -
0.13%) killed 99.9% of gram positive organisms, gram negative
organisms and yeast cells within 60 seconds.
An MIC study using benzalkonium chloride (0.11% - 0.13%) as the
test product is ongoing. The results to date are attached. These
preliminary results show benzalkonium chloride effectively kills the required strains. Final results will be submitted as soon as
completed.
A healthcare antiseptic handwash study (60 subjects) that showed
that benzalkonium chloride (0.11% - 0.13%) achieved a greater
than three log TEN reduction at one, three, seven, and ten washes.
The reference product achieved a greater than two log reduction
after the first wash and greater than a three log reduction after the tenth wash.
An Agar Patch Test that showed that benzalkonium chloride (0.11%
- 0.13%) achieved a total inhibition against staph for up to four
hours post application. Benzalkonium chloride (0.11% - 0.13%)
also achieved statistically significant persistence against E. Co/i for up to four hours post application.
Test demonstrated a significant persistent antimicrobial effect for benzalkonium chloride (0.11% - 0.13%) at all study time points. These data support the conclusion that benzalkonium chloride (0.11% - 0.13%) is effective for use as the active ingredient in an OTC antiseptic handwash.
Safetv of Benzalkonium Chloride
Based on the standard set forth by the Agency, see 39 Fed. Reg. 33102,33135 (September 13, 1974) published data and tests performed by ILTC show that benzalkonium chloride is safe for use as the active ingredient in an OTC antiseptic handwash.
A 1989 publication of the American Journal of Toxicology contains a “Final Report on the Safety Assessment of Benzalkonium Chloride.”
This report presents data from a number of toxicology and safety studies performed with benzalkonium chloride. The panel concludes from these data that benzalkonium chloride “is not a sensitizer to normal humans at concentrations of 0.1%” and hence it “can safely be used as an antimicrobial agent at concentrations of up to 0.1 %.I’
In addition, a 24-hour skin irritation study where benzalkonium chloride (0.11% - 0.13%) was tested against Purell (62% ethyl alcohol), sodium lauryl sulfate and physiological saline. Benzalkonium chloride resulted in less inflammation than sodium lauryl sulfate and Purell in the occlusive stage and had identical results to physiological saline. In the semiocclusive
stage, benzalkonium chloride resulted in less inflammation than sodium laurel sulfate and had the same results as Purell and physiological saline.
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Forgot to mention, children die every year from ingesting alcohol based hand cleansers. No one or no dog had been even sickend by benzalkonium chloride. Take a look at the brand called WET ONES...on your grocery shelves....it too contains BZCL as does the house brand produced for KROGER.
I believe that the who are "dogs."
Look at the FDA monograph Benzalkonium Chloride. It states that 0.13% is both safe and effective for killing 99.9% of topical bacteria on dermal tissue. It is current the preferred preoperative surgical antibacteriastat used in hospitals. The monograph has stood for 22 years. It is used by the US NAVY and the AIRFORCE because it is not flammable as is alcohol based hand cleansers. The product was accepted by the UCLA pet therapy program. More over, the FDA ran its own tests and found that BZCL was more effective than alcohol for topical cleansing with fewer side effects. PAWTIZER is an excellent solution to a seriouc health concern, the transmission of pathogens from people to pets and back to people.
The bars are so unique global corporations are talking copacking and acquisition. Walmart is picking up another brand line; CHEWIES Treats. Word has it that convenience stores will be retailing the brand lines which will put the bars in the neighborhoods of every American and their millions of dogs.
There are still two other bar brands to launch; Chompbars and MUTT Bars. PAWtizer will follow as the Bar and treat Brand lines take off. Major supermarkets are coming on board as are the drug chains.
I'm pretty confident that their distributors will deliver the pet specialty shops including PetSmart and PetCo as well. Production and sales momentum will drive the ROI we all have invested in.
Your pet product contains alcohol. PAWtizer was formulated to specifically exclude alcohol as it dries out the paw pads of dogs and irritates the sensitive sweat glands located between the paw-pads. Alcohol burns dogs.
The active ingredient in PAWtizer is Benzalkonium Chloride. It has an FDA monograph and has been proven to be as effective as alcohol topically degerming salmonella and e.Coli as well as MRSA.
My calls to AAPT affirmed the general amount of bars sold. As Walmart is presently their largest account I'd feel quite safe in assuming that was their destination.
Hundreds of thousands of bars have been sold and consumed. If there were 5 bars that had a problem then there will be 5 credits given or merchandise replaced and five customers made happy along with the hundreds of thousands that did not have an issue.
Eric went to Shawnee in December. He conducted an inspection and inventory count at that time according to the director of operations, Mary Leslie. No mention was made by him or Mary of any issue. IMO there is no issue just a lot of nay-sayers. Walmart continues to buy bars and will be buying Chewies shortly.
Co-pack and acquisition conversations did take place at the EXPO.
AAPT's innovations are getting noticed by the biggest players in the business...this is a good thing.
The bar is going to be a game changer. With NutraBars dog owners will no longer be tied to the ritual of returning homw at a specific time to feed their dogs freeing them to enjoy a more mobile lifestyle.
The bar is a bold innovation that is apparently resonating with the Walmart shopper and IMHO will also resonate with convenience store, pet specialty and grocery store shopper BIG TIME!
AAPT is an innovator and my bet is on their ability to bring big ideas to the pet market. My guess, a big company will make them an offer. It's a good time to own this stock.
Of concern to all investors should be access to accurate information upon which they can base their investment decisions.
A few bars have been identified with a bloom of mold on them. The mold is quite visible as shown in the photos that have been posted to the site so it would be quite doubtful that anyone would feed it to their dog. I am certain that most if not all would agree.
As to the ingredients that might precipitate the "bloom." First off, the "bloom" is not a "disease." It obviously is a mold on the bar most likely fed moisture and air--but chicken has been posed as both a "disease" and a cause.In my opinion it "was" a wrapper problem, not a bar problem and it took time for the "bloom" to appear...which speaks to a air lock leak...and an intermittant one at that. That is just an opinion...I don't have those facts.
Reading the ingredient label though, it clearly states that the "Chicken" is chicken meal and that means no moisture. Also the disease referred to is "Salmonella." The bars were tested for pathogens and none were found. Nor were any for e.Coli at KSU.
Issues with dog food happen. Following is a list of companies that have faced such issues, among them is Walmart's OL Roy:
ALPO, AMERICAS CHOICE, ARROWBRAND 21% Dog Chunks, ARROWBRAND Professional Formula Dog Food, ARROWBRAND Super Proeaux Dog Food, AUTHORITY, AWARD, American Bullie, American Nutrition, BEST CHOICE, BIG BET, BIG RED, BLOOM, BLUE BUFFALO, Beef Hooves, Beefeaters, Berkley & Jensen, Bil-Jac, Blue Buffalo,Blue Wilderness, Bravo, CADILLAC, COMPANION, Canine Caviar, Champion, Country Value, DEMOULAS MARKET BASKET, DIAMOND, DINGO, DOCTORS FOSTER & SMITH, DOG POWER(R) BRAND DOG FOOD, ADULT MAINTENANCE FORMULA 21-12, DOG POWER(R) BRAND DOG FOOD, HI-PRO PERFORMANCE FORMULA 26-18, DOG POWER(R) BRAND DOG FOOD, HUNTERS FORMULA 27-14, Dentley's Beef Hooves, Dentley's Knucle Steaks, Diamond, Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance Venison, Digger's, Disney Dog Treats, Dollar General, EUKANUBA, FOOD LION, GIANT COMPANION, GRREAT CHOICE, Good Buddy,Grandpa Louie's Dog Treats, Gravy Train, HILL COUNTRY FARE, HY-VEE, Happy Tails, Harmony Farms, Hartz Naturals, Hill Country Fare, IAMS, Integrity, Jerky Treats, Jones, KASCO, Kirkland Signature Premium, Kroger, LAURA LYNN, LOVING MEALS, MEIJER MAIN CHOICE, MIGHTY DOG, MIXABLES, Marksman, Merrick, Merrick Beef Filet Squares, Merrick Beef Filet Squares Dog Treats, Merrick Beef Filet Squares and Merrick Texas Hold 'Ems, Merrick Junior Texas Taffy, Merrick TEXAS HOLD "EMS, Mill Creek Premium, Mulligan Stew, NATURAL BALANCE, NATURAL LIFE, NUTRIPLAN, NUTRO, NUTRO MAX, NUTRO NATURAL CHOICE, NUTRO ULTRANatural Balance, Natural Way, Next Generation Pet Products, Northwest Royal, Nurture, Nutra Nugget, NutraGold, OL ROY CANADA, OL ROY US, Ol' Roy, PAWS, PET ESSENTIALS, PET PRIDE, PETRUS FEEDS, 21% Dog Food, PRESIDENT'S CHOICE, PRICE CHOPPER, PRIORITY CANADA, PRIORITY US, PUBLIX, Pedigree, Pedigree , Perfect Pals, Pet Life, Pig Ears for Pet Treats, Planet Dog Eats, Pork Chomps, Premium Natural, Premium Smarty, Professional, ROCHE BROTHERS, River Run, Royal Canin, SAVE-A-LOT, SCHNUCKS, SHEP, SHEP DOG, SHOP RITE, SPRINGFIELD PRIZE, SPROUT, STATER BROTHERS, , Safe-Guard, Sensible Choice, SmartPak, Solid Gold WolfKing, Springfield Prize, Timberwolf Organics, Drug Kibble, Dakota Bison Formual, Timberwolf Organics, Dry Kibble, Ocean Blue, WEGMANS BRUISER, WEIS TOTAL PET, WESTERN FAMILY US, WHITE ROSE, WINN DIXIE, Wellness, Western Family, Wysong Maintenance Canine Diet packaged, Wysong Senior Canine Diet, Wysong Synorgon Canine Diet, Yeaster, Yourpet>
A few bars with a problem is not crisis. What is critical though is accurate information. We as informed investors should be conducting our own due dilligence rather than accepting commentary on material data which is unfounded and or incorrect.
The rational response to a few bars with a problem out of a half million or more sold and consumed without a problem is holding the incident in a realistic perspective and conducting a rational discussion on the impact to the share price which in my opinion is nil. Anyone investing in a consumable company understands the potential for such an incident...some do recalls other offer credits. Costco had a problem too. Did Costco fold?
A TAINTED PERCEPTION DOES NOT A REALITY MAKE
The few bars in question obviously are moldy. Cheese gets moldy too, but we don't over react and close France. The mettle of a company and its officers is measured by the way they deal with issues. Give them a chance to address these circumstances, then
measure their performance and the company's worthiness.
I spoke with AAPBrands operations in KS and got the following affirmations:
Each and every bar (hunderds of thousands) was tested for PH/e.coli/salmonella etc.
No bar was wrapped until the testing was complete and positive
by the KSU labs.
As only a few bars appear to have "bloom" on them it is more logical to assume that it might have been an intermittant wrapping cycle issue. Either the heat seal, the crimper or the adhesive used to secure the seal.
Having been involved with printing for decades, I'd bet that a break in the glue edge of the printed film might have been the issue.Such a break, even a minute one, would over time allow some air into the package and forment the "bloom." BUT that is just my "guess."
Moving the crimper a few millimeters and doing a mod on the temp will resolve such an issue and I'd bet that was already done.
How could this happen...count the ways...my bet is that the number of bad bars is miniscule and corrections were already made.
So...we weather another storm, the shorts stay dry and the longs get wet until AAPT announces how many convenience stores signed up for the bars...now there's an ROI!
This is not the Tylenol scare that a few here have professed... Dogs often eat their own feces and don't get sick. I grew up in the cheese business...now that is a moldy story.
Hysteria aside, when did anyone sue a farmer or a supermarket for moldy strawberries? Or fish that smells like iodine?
All natural products can have preservation issues, but the number of issues is minute when viewed within the total number of bars sold and consumed. If no natural food product ever went bad, it would not be a natural food.
The issue here is not my love or lack of love for dogs. The issue we are discussing is the impact of a moldy bar or two neither of which is a life or death issue for a dog or the stock. Dogs have stomach acids that are so powerful it will etch metal. And if you have not noticed, they eat just about anything, furniture, shoes, dentures, glasses and table scraps.
AAPT manufactures products with guarantees and assurances that cover both minor and major events. This is a minor event and should be viewed within that perspective.
Hyperbole is the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but it should not be taken literally. An example of hyperbole is: "The bag weighed a ton" or DOGS WILL DIE. Hyperbole makes the point that the bag was very heavy, though it probably doesn't actually weigh a ton.
If mold is there, you will see it and not feed it to a dog. You will ask the store for a credit and receive same. And maybe buy another bar or not. But DIE?????
NutraBars are an "all natural" product with only natural preservatives like tocopherols. Certainly a bar or two will go bad just like strawberries or egs or bread and just like any company with a trusted product guarantee goods will be exchanged, credited or replaced.
Doom and gloomers aside, Nutrabars are a great product and few bad bars doesn't mean the end of anything.
I spoke with the company and was assured that any issue would be met with immediate make goods. To date, after delivering hundred of thousands of bars, Walmart has issued three credits for $1.19 each.
This board is an intense microcosm and as such tends to magnifiy any issue to the level of a global catasrophe which this is not.
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That is why we call this place a forum...a place to exhange ideas.
My portfolio position and investment philosophy is predicated on the belief that AAPT will in fact be a success.
As it achieves profitability the share price will naturally rise and that accumulted equity will at a future point in time provide me with a handsome return on my investment and the DD that went into my considerations.
Trading penny stocks is not my game. Investing in worthwile enterprises is my game.
I know others share my postion and while they are not vociferous about their strategies, they too are numerous in number and I expect that AAPT will prevail despite its current challenges.