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dam78, you can not go about it by looking at the earnings report, there are no earnings to report. You must know the history of VRNG from the beginning, after you are well informed of its history then you should make the decision, Your decision has to be made after you acquire some of the following knowledge: 1) patents 2) VRNG'S patents ownership, 3) Judicial and legal of VRNG'S cases, then you make the decision whether to buy or not. Do you want to be part of history when David takes down Goliath (Google), please don't forget your bocci balls, at least two of them. I am not an adviser it is OMHO (only my humble opinion) GLTA VRNG'S LONG.
Danburydude, I tend to agree with your view, whatever cash we have left it must be used to bring some more cash into the coffer, I would start giving them 5% off and begin serious negotiations. Now on the other hand ZTE has made a big mistake by irritating not one but two U.S. Judges, I think VRNG can play off of that issue. Nevertheless we go back to a simple saying you can't go to war without bullets $$$$$. GLTA Long and hangin ON.
chrislal, not far from your numbers, in around 4.45, also missed the opportunity and lately been averaging down and now at 2.18, am not selling until at least 5.75 that is when I missed it back in October 2012. I think this time ZTE and GOOGLE are going to break that number for us. don't turn loose. GLTA
chrislal,whom do you have your account with?
Red Angus, thank you for your response, eventually all these documents are going to be posted, that is when we are going to find out the truth. Does this way of behavior resonate in ROMANIA with the courts there?, Will it make it expedite the results against ZTE?
apollo1452, now we are off to New York to see the wizard the wizard who holds the NDA over ZTE's head. Not an attorney but I think the ring around ZTE's neck is getting tighter. GLTA VRNG'S LONG, I have been holding for almost 3 years. Next will be Google to the SCOTUS and back to the Court of Appeals.
dam78, I guess ZTE got more than what they gambled for, now they are going to answer to Judge Kaplan in New York. That is why VRNG have the attorneys to defend what is ours. GLTA
RED ANGUS, JJS, can you please elaborate why did ZTE do what they did and the repercussion this is going to have when they go in front of Judge KAPLAN.
postyle, thank you for your update. it is incredible that Judge Gregory M Sleet ruled the way he did without serving documents to VRNG, odd very odd, more than odd suspicious !!!
apollo1452, who's conference call? can you please elaborate
The most important issue at this juncture is when are we going to hear from the Judge that he has stopped the order to allow ZTE to do business again in ROMANIA?
dam78, thank you for your post, it brings a wealth of information for those who know some law, but for us who are following this stock that we are in it brings hope. I posted a question to Red Angus, which I would like to extend to all legal minds in this forum. "WHEN WILL VRNG'S ATTORNEYS BRING THEIR REQUEST TO THE SCOTUS".
Red Angus, when will VRNG'S attorneys approach the SCOTUS to hear their case and send it back to the Court of Appeal for re-evaluation of their error according to the TEVA case.
Delroy, VRNG'S attorneys are going over every single document from the start of this case, specially everything that has to do with Judge Raymond Jackson, they are going to be very careful at this stage where they are and not do something foolish before they study their files. They will make the request in due time.
stoppatrntthives, retjarhead, JJS, Red Angus, I am not an attorney, but it makes sense, it will save a lot of time to wait for SCOTUS to answer and hear (+ or -) the outcome would be similar to the TEVA outcome. Perhaps we can even get a response from Cliff of VRNG's Public Relations.
running bull, most of the forum here forget all that you mentioned and more, all will be rewarded, just be patient, you'll see. GLTA
JJS, thank you for the input, knowledge the tool to success, earlier posted were,turn the light on the way out, timberrrr, and so on> I have the confidence and believe the best is yet to come, from SCOTUS, when google's house of cards come tumbling down. thank you for all your advice and help, picked up 1,000 @ $.48, thank you timberrr, keep selling. GLTA
To all VRG'S long, it looks good from the point of view of the TEVA results from the SCOTUS, this is what has been discussed, the court of appeals has to recognize the results of the lower circuit court where a ruling was handed down after almost 3 years of procedures and hearings listen by Judge Raymond Jackson and the jury, they can not rule with an obvious ruling. We have a good chance to chop down the big tree "Google" there is good chance. Now we need for VRNG's attorneys to get going and prepare for an excellent presentation to the SCOTUS. GLTA
JJS, thank you so much, I looked up the 10Q and it shows they have about $2,300,000 in posted bond all around the world, well lets hope we can start to collect some of the money from all of the ones that owe us, again thank you. GLTA
JJS, thank you for explaining the situation, VRNG is being asked to post a bond in the amount of E240,000, for the court to proceed with the order of injunction imposed on ZTE. Does anyone knows how much does VRNG has posted up to now and how do we know if ZTE is not violating the court ruling?
JJS, thank you for explaining the situation, VRNG is being asked to post a bond in the amount of E240,000, for the court to proceed with the order of injunction imposed on ZTE. Does anyone knows how much does VRNG has posted up to now and how do we know if ZTE is not violating the court ruling?
JJS, greetings for the new year, hopefully it will be a better year than the last one. Can you please explain to us if you can what is going on in Romania?, was that a request for a bond of some sort to keep the case moving forward or just a bond for whatever reason?, appreciate your view on this matter, thank you and GLTA.
cybere, my apologies, it is quite clear that we are the one's that have to put up the E240,000, as a bond in order to shut down their operations in Rumania? or for the court to issue and order of payment?
cybere, my apologies, it is quite clear that we are the one's that have to put up the E240,000, but what does that do for us?
cybere, thank you for the translation. Please, can you translate what it means, who has to put up the E240,000. Us or ZTE? thank you for the help. GLTA we need it really, really.
vinovista, do not know about when does SCOTUS will give a yes or a no, but I believe to more immediate news is coming up Jan. 12th, is either in UK or GERMANY that a ruling against ZTE will be announced, perhaps some of the other participants in this forum may share some of the pending dates coming up. Thanks to all that provide your knowledge and advice for all of us, I miss "Red Angus" and JJS is in and out from time to time, thank you all.GLTA
arcazjo, the add on Best Buy still there, is an AT&T Phone "ZTE 3G", regular price $59.99 on special today is $34.99. I do not know how to forwrd the add to the Directors of VRNG,they may know all about it.
acrazjo, there is always a prayer, I am to old to sing, maybe you can do that part. I found on Best Buy this morning an add making reference to a cellular telephone made by ZTE, is there a problem that we can not sue ZTE in the US?. Check the add, do not know if it still there.
Secureit, it was a ploy to get you to respond, you can answer wich ever way you would like to, the best of Christmas for you and your family, may the new year bring health and prosperity to all of us. God bless us all.
JJS, has anyone calculated what impact a settlement with ZTE in the order of 200 to 300 million would do the the pps, do not forget tomorrow is XMAS, can we at least look at the positive side of our predicament, SECURIT, don't even attempt to say anything, thank you, this is only for positive thinkers and tinkers, MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE, MY VERY BEST TO THE DIRECTORS OF VRNG. LET'S MOVE FORWARD NEXT YEAR!!!
acrazjo, thank you for your reply, appreciate your insight. We have to believe that some good may come our way after all. Thank you again.
acrazjo, can you share with us at what level were you in and out, I am in at $2.95 with a few thousands, trying to minimize losses by hanging on to maybe $1.95 to $2.50 when and if ZET pays along with all the other law suites, to get out even. Never the less I have learned my life time lesson here, do not play with fire, somewhere along you are going to get burned!!!, Good Luck to all of us who are in my position or perhaps even worse. I was hoping for a XMAS gift from the court but the courts have gone away from protecting to destroying everything in their path. My hope lays with SCOTUS. Merry Christmas to all that have been considered in answering my questions in the past, JJ, Red Angus and others, Thank you again.
Red Angus, VRNG, failed to bring those charges against
GOOGLE correct?, has anyone questioned VRNG'S Directors or attornery's Why didn't they?, We wouldn't be in this situation now, correct?
nsomniyak, I agree with you when someone does not answer right away is because they are still debating within themselves and we may have a nice surprise, an early CHRISTMAS PRESENT. NEVER LOOSE YOUR FAITH, SAY A PRAYER, MOST OF THE TIME SOMEONE IS LISTENING!!! GLTA, MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!
Stoppatentthieves, how can two judges with no knowledge of patents make a decision and rule against a jury and three years of litigation it is unreal, only in Obama's USA, where is the rule of LAW?, instead Europe is accepting the patents and recognizing the fact that companies like ZTE world wide and GOOGLE world wide and nation wide have been abusing and using VRNg'S patents and making a fortune at the same time. Something has to give somewhere. GLTALG'S
To ALL learned legal knowledgeable minds, Why did'nt VRNG sue GOOGLE around the world?
JJS, thank you a gentleman and a scholar as always. Have a wonderful THANKSGIVING, GOOD LUCK TO US ALL. GLTUA
JJS, Red Angus, is taking some time for the en-bank polling, does it have a better, or less chance to be herd? thank you in advance for your kind response. GLTA LONGS.
JJS, do you know what is going on with the ASEUS suit in Germany?
Who is holding all of our shares, can someone comment, please!!!