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Perhaps Kim Thomson saw a 35% drop in the PPS the day before a positive announcement that he expects to significantly raise the PPS and just could not stomach the fact that this was giving any short sellers a chance for tremendous profits from their (to him at least) despicable practices and doing an equally tremendous harm to his retail investors.
Frankly, I was shocked to read his 180 degree, very derogatory statement, concerning KBLB's CEO. It contradicts EVERYTHING I've ever heard him say in the past.
King, thank you for posting the email. Any real information that anyone has is always a welcome distraction between the "This stock is going to the moon!" and the "This stock is going to ZERO" posts with no other rationale added to them. I do have a couple of points I'd like to get others' opinions of.
I do not normally comment on postings, but I do think that an exception in this case is warranted.
In short, the analysis is incorrect and is based on a seriously flawed series of assumptions. Homozygousaty was not a major problem.
We do believe that this material is commercially significant and we are working to ramp up production of monster silk.
what a great game.
kim must have some good news.
.30 on monday?
What did you hear that made them not ok anymore?
Or maybe the people accusing ZF of being KT himself are correct and he was coming in to greatly lower expectations before the CC? Maybe if the expectations are greatly lowered then no one will be too upset if the CC is a repeat of last years?
"We're making progress and have tons of expectations for the next year!"
I'm not saying that I think any of this is true, but why else would ZF be silent for a couple of months coinciding with KBLB's silence, and then the day before the CC come in and turn 170 degrees in his tune. It's not a complete 180, because he did give some warnings of possibilities of failure before, but now he's more like 10% chance of success and 90% chance of failure.
I still own some KBLB but not nearly as much as I used to, so when the price drops I will lose money.
Dude, you really don't know how to read, do you?
Just because someone is claiming there will be .05's and .06's -
nvm, i'm stupid
"Are potential investors waiting for KBLB to be bought by DOW, or sign huge commercial deals, or produce 100% spider silk? Where's the risk then, where's the reward then?"
The risk will then be very minimal and so will the rewards.
If investors wait until that happens...the PPS will be in DOLLARS per share and the risk will equal the rewards.
As you know,to receive extremely large rewards...you must be ahead of the curve.
For what is worth, I received an email back from Ben at IR and he says he hopes to release the details of the CC before the end of the month
I'm not going to post it all again.
Kim has the chance to raise the pps, get new investment, establish KBLB as the leader in this technology. Will he do it or let us all sink after the trust we put in him?
Ouch, 700K+ shares sold in just a few minutes and broke back into the 7s. Buying opportunity yet? How low can we go?!?
what does calling ben hansel accomplish?
Alright, if we can put off any "commercialization news" for 45 days we'll get another huge buying opportunity. Apparently .08 isn't low enough any longer for traders to buy shares, so I'm guessing the pps will have to be in the .07s or .06s by then to attract the same old investment we've had for a year.
IMO has never had a significant gap that "never" got closed since June, 2011 because the great majority of trading on this stock is simply between current investors, traders and MMs. The closed society that KBLB has become inherently restricts new investment, shown by the dismal reaction of the pps every time prs were released, even including the peer review that proved the "basics" of the science.
No need to reiterate my plan to solve this problem, or is there?
Quote please. If you are to imply I say something please back it up
This scares me. What do you know that the rest of us don't that makes you so afraid of putting KBLB out in the public? Your arguments don't make sense, so there must be something that makes you so negative on exposing the accomplishments of KBLB if you're willing to go to these lengths to prevent it.
Potential investors wouldn't be interested in the specs of MS, you really believe that?
You think all potential investors have heard of the zf insertions, platform worm, etc. and what they mean to the success of the evolving science toward future spider silk products?
And finally, you don't think it worthwhile to disclose the future products that could be made from the spider silk hopes to develop?
A pc or interview with national media wouldn't be for you and me, it would be for the millions of potential investors and thousands of potential companies that ARE interested.
And you wonder why I have to post these arguments over and over when these are the best arguments you and others have?
I may be the most positive poster on this board, I believe in the science and also in the future of vast commercial products. I'm the only one posting with enough confidence in KBLB to put it out in the public and let the market decide what its worth. You are certainly not.
You don't agree with me then fine, but don't misrepresent everything I say by twisting the meaning of the words.
Full disclosure of the physical properties of Monster silk
full disclosure of the zf insertions leading to the platform worm
full disclosure of what those mean to hopefully the future production of 100% spider silk.
Full disclosure of future production of spider silks or blends thereof and commercial possibilities
Don't see a whole lot to bring on a dump of stock when you base your investment on this kind of presentation.
KBLB wont be huge for a while.
Fatcat, you are also failing to understand (or accept) this same logic with your other argument - the I want it (news PRd or PCd) now argument.
You keep saying that KBLB needs to release a new PR full of old news right now and that will help the company long term, but if we don't, it will hurt the company long term. Other people have told you that yes, releasing old news as new news will help in the short term, but probably not in the long term. You have been using invalid logic to turn that into "Everyone is saying that releasing a PR of old news will hurt the company". You are making an invalid logical deduction. If you would correct your logic, you would see that other people aren't saying that old news being re-released as new news would hurt the company, they're just saying that it won't help the company long term.
If you want to disagree with them, that's fine because both sides of the argumet are both opinions, but only one side has backed up their argument with logic - and it's not your side. Can we just agree that they are both opinions, whether logically valid or invalid, and agree to disagree? I am perfectly happy with you thinking whatever you want to think, but please stop posting it over and over and over and over!
The problem with your argument is that you are implying that I have a problem with long-term trading over short-term trading. No where have I ever said that long-term traders are "doing it wrong", and no where have I ever said that short-term traders are "doing it right". I have only said that there is nothing wrong with short-term trading. You are the one (along with several others) who have more than implied that long-term trading is "the only right, moral and just way to make money in the stock market" and that "short-term traders are immoral doing hurting other people".
It's the logic that you're not understanding (or choosing to ignore). I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm only saying that I'm not wrong. You are saying that you are right and I am wrong. If you could just accept that your way isn't the only right way, then there wouldn't be a reason to argue. We could actually just agree to disagree.
I wholeheartedly agree with every thing in this post. To the people who think that traders are immoral and doing something wrong, you obviously don't understand what the stock market is, and how it works. You also don't seem to understand that you are a long-term trader, doing the same thing that short-term traders are doing - you're just taking longer to do it.
For all of the trader-haters, let me ask you a question. Why are you here? Not on this board, but in the stock market. You are here to invest your money. And the only goal to investing your money is to turn it into more moeny. The way you do that is by buying stock at price X, and selling it when it is higher than X. It doesn't matter if you sell each share at a .001 cent profit, $1 profit or a $10 profit. It doesn't matter if it took you 1 minute, 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, 1 year or 10 years to make that profit. If it's profit, you succeeded, if it's a loss, you failed.
If there is anyone that says that they are here for any other reason than to make money, they are a liar or delusional. No one is here for a noble cause, no one is here to help a company thrive or to help other investors make money. So if all of the trader-haters could get off of their hypocritical horses, that would be great.
You're right, I'm done arguing with posters on this board on this point as it is counter-productive to the point, but I'm certainly not done posting my views.
I've stated many times that this [a deal] is what I hope is the reason for the lack of IR publicity, to consider the alternatives isn't pleasant at all.
OMG, I'm in one of those arguments so favored by traders on this board that boil down to what "is, is".
Why is KBLB avoiding the media, no idea. The ONLY logical reason would be that a HUGE deal is already done, anything else wouldn't measure up as a reason.
But that's right, we don't need publicity, and don't insult me any further by saying how much you want it while you continue to argue against it.
What's the difference between mojo, an admitted trader, and those on this board that manipulate the stock and work diligently to keep the pps so low that many investors are forced to sell?
So, if I understand correctly, it would be bad for all investors to see the pps skyrocket on publicity...
I don't need a lesson on being a trader, that's your position and I really don't care how you attempt to justify it to yourself or others.
This stock is being manipulated by traders, pure and simple but that's the way the market works.
What I'm proposing can only increase tenfold the name recognition of KBLB, and should bring massive new investment that would end the stranglehold traders have on this stock.
I guess my moral compass points in a different direction than yours, because I want all investors that put their savings into KBLB to be given a fair chance to realize the profits.
I sure you were glad I let it go, that allowed traders to continue to manipulate the stock without anyone daring to ask for any kind of action that would eliminate their profit taking.
Yeah, I was glad that you finally let the PC at ND argument go for a while, you obviously got the point that no one wanted to hear you ramble and rant about it incessantly!
But I literally LOL'd when I saw that just 60 seconds after I mentioned it, you posted about it again (no doubt, before you saw that I mentioned it).
New cooling equipment arrived at Mfg Plant, just posted to Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=262844927108117&set=a.226596117399665.55876.174407155951895&type=1
and
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=262845737108036&set=a.226596117399665.55876.174407155951895&type=1
Pictures and Video on Bourque's FB page
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=732138856015
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.257821674277109.62403.174407155951895&type=1
And another 125K sell at 0.09 after the close. This is starting to be a daily thing, a large block sell after the close.
Daaaaaaaaang! Did anyone see those 3 trades in the last 15 minutes? 85K sold, 100K sold, 120K sold! Not to mention the 2 blocks of 100K and 2 blocks of 50K that sold early this morning. If today's PR is good news, or even just news about upcoming good news, why would someone be selling hundreds of thousands of shares?!?
If I understand Rule 144 correctly when Feb 23, 2012 comes JB can sell up to $50,000 of his stock each month. He will be a very rich man with possible monetary rewards of over half a million dollars each year.
Condidtion 3 Trading Volume Formula. If you are an affiliate, the number of equity securities you may sell during any three-month period cannot exceed the greater of 1% of the outstanding shares of the same class being sold, or if the class is listed on a stock exchange or quoted on Nasdaq, the greater of 1% or the average reported weekly trading volume during the four weeks preceding the filing a notice of sale on Form 144. Over-the-counter stocks, including those quoted on the OTC Bulletin Board and the Pink Sheets, can only be sold using the 1% measurement.
Condition 5 Filing a Notice of Proposed Sale With the SEC. If you are an affiliate, you must file a notice with the SEC on Form 144 if the sale involves more than 5,000 shares or the aggregate dollar amount is greater than $50,000 in any three-month period. The sale must take place within three months of filing the Form and, if the securities have not been sold, you must file an amended notice.
No, I've been in KBLB since October 2010 and on iHub since March of this year. I just don't understand why the need for today's PR if there's going to be another PR in 3-4 weeks that announces a CC 2-3 weeks from then, so I asked for other opinions. :)
Sounds plausible, I hope you're right.
AT LAST SOME NEWS FROM KIM DURING JAN 2012
WILL WE GET SOME UPDATE VIA KBLB BEFORE THAT?? HOPE SO..