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over the last year, there were maybe 8-10 MAJOR things that needed to be figured out, proven, applied for, built, or decided; and perhaps 15-20 OTHER things that had to be addressed, hurdled, buried, and handled. As of NOW, ALL of these things have SLOWLY been put to rest, come to pass, or crossed over or crossed out - one by one. MANY of those things had to be addressed by MANY people - from both within and from without of MZEI directly. Some timelines were nailed and others were missed - some by many months but ALL was given and all was done in good faith. Our product - even our industry as a whole; science, etc., are SO new - and there just was NO previous benchmark or "average" to guide us to make things easier or more reliable. MANY companies have been consulted directly and indirectly during these last 12 months and many chains of thought over a WIDE spectrum have been put into play our pulled out of the entire project/business plan/end product. The GOOD NEWS is that NOW ALL of these issues have been taken care of - with even greater success and potential than we ever thought possible. ALL that remains are the official reports of the completed first beta trials, the final patent filed for to be announced (according to the last PR), and an announcement of the "major players" that MZEI has been is deep discussions with as to marketing, manufacturing, distribution, etc. It's all DOWN HILL from here. At this point, there's nothing to fret; nothing to doubt; nothing that can stop or even hinder us. Smooth sailing in calm waters from here on out. Whether it takes one month or 5-6 months before we see the promised land is of little consequence.
Correct.
Hi Lady GoFor. I see you're still flying high. Have you learned to fly that thing yet? Likely by this time next year, you can buy your OWN plane.
STEEEAAADYYY everyone. "PROBABLY in 6 months" can ALSO mean LESS than 6 months. Ed will be VERY CAREFUL from here on out to NOT be over zealous on time lines. He told me the other day that he KNOWS there's egg on his face for AGAIN missing a pre-given time line, but he also mentioned that it's not always his fault...and SOMETIMES other things transpire that must be dealt with or ADDED. He is NOT torn between being accurate on his time lines vs. doing the RIGHT and most STRATEGICALLY intelligent thing for the company/shareholders. In spite of what some people have posted, I've known him for MANY years and there's MANY areas he is BRILLIANT in. He may NOT know EVERYTHING we all WANT him to know, but there's NO other person I'd trust MY money to.
True on the 6 month thing, butI've waited 12 years, so another 6 months is nothing. Had MZEI simply only pursued the HAI hospital market segment, we'd be selling units likely next month, but the decision was made to months ago to pursue MULTIPLE markets with MULTIPLE patents...better for EVERYONE.
As to market economics, NO ONE knows perfect market economics on all of this as to date, there's been no like comparisons. I'm sure Microsoft dealt with the same things years ago at the onset of the internet age.
Well, they are the ones who have invested the MOST money here...and have done so for 10 years or more. Some of their investments were highly leveraged against other personal property, etc. Therefore, selling only 5% of their portfolio - especially considering how much INTEREST they've paid on the money they've invested during the last DECADE, shouldn't seem like a big deal or even a bad thing.
From the Wall Street Journal today: ...Most stock pickers have portfolios with dozens or hundreds of investments, so getting a few calls wrong generally doesn't make a big dent in returns. But macro funds tend to have a lot riding on a handful of bets.
John Burbank, founder of Passport Capital LLC, a San Francisco-based macro-hedge-fund manager, thinks the macro-driven environment will persist for some time. The reason, he says, is the difficulty of solving some of the issues that have led to the macro-dominated markets, such as the U.S. budget deficit and economic overcapacity that has resulted in persistent high unemployment rates.
Mr. Burbank says he is building a network of sources in Washington in an effort to get a better read on political and regulatory issues. He compares investing in the U.S. to investing in emerging markets, where he started his career.
"What is happening with the country, with the government, and what are their policies? These are the questions as an emerging-market investor that you ask before you do any bottom-up work on stocks," he says.
Many stock pickers, bound by rules that require their funds to keep investing in stocks, can only tweak their strategies and hope that the current environment doesn't last much longer.
At Neuberger Berman, Mr. Pedowitz says a little uncertainty is good for stock pickers, but there can be too much of a good thing. "In normal levels of uncertainty, we're wallowing in it like happy pigs, because you need that uncertainty to find bargains," he says. However, for now there's so much uncertainty, he says, "it's overwhelming."
Therefore, as for me, I don't think there's a SAFER place to invest MY money than MZEI.
I'll bet EACH market segment requires its own application process, and LIKELY its own type of machine. I doubt that ONE type machine could cover all types of disinfecting. I know there are a few different ways to make ozone, and I would imagine that for different applications, different methods are required. I'd guess we'll have a FAMILY of different "types" of machines that while similar, will be different in the way they make and/or distribute ozone.
Wow, SEVEN patents. I guess I lost track of the number we'd filed for.
How are u going to have a hostile takeover when the board and several kep shareholders (who are ALL on the same page) have controlling interest?
There's a BIG DIFFERENCE between a takeover and a partnership.
Beta results would NEVER have been released PRIOR to patent filings for ALL KNOWN/SUSPECTED market segments. Obviously, according to today's press release the first beta test IS NOW ONGOING.
There's NO WAY they'd sell off the company at this juncture of our development. It would make no financial sense - any way you look at it. Obviously, they are developing a FAMILY of products that have a MUCH broader application that what was originally envisioned - even 8 months ago.
Well bud, you're COMPLETELY wasting your time here then. I CAN COMPLETELY ASSURE YOU that a hostile takeover HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE of happening....EVER. It's NOT possible. Read anything into that that you want.
We believe will have a SIGNIFICANT impact on ALL SUPER BUGS.
Further enhances Medizone’s AsepticSure™ technology in a manner NOT ANTICIPATED.
Considered to be EVEN MORE POTENT than EITHER ozone or peroxide to destroy a broad range of potentially lethal pathogens
Research is NOW UNDERWAY at our laboratories in Kingston ON A PARALLEL TRACK WITH OUR HOSPITAL BETA TESTING to evaluate the merits of a multifactorial decontamination system which appears TO FURTHER INCRASE THE POTENCY of AsepticSure™ while dramatically reducing the exposure time
outcomes of RECENT meetings with BOTH private industry players AND government
we have even filed a patent application addressing the bed bug issue for the cruise ship and hotel industry
Moieties? Come on Ed, we’re not rocket scientists here….especially TEBJ.
As usual, you're WRONG AGAIN...there's at least SEX.....er SIX press releases in one.
Hey Benk....THAT"LL preach.
Hey Doberman, I'm sniffin' GOURMET dog bisquits.
I think there's MUCH going on behind the scenes that we can't be made aware of yet. There's been TOO much super positive information, press releases of patents, etc., to think otherwise.
It better NOT be 2 more dog years....I'd be pushin' up dog biscuits by then.
I'VE held on - and 15 years in DOG years is a big DEAL.
You speak as if someone who's served time.
Found this on Yahoo this morning and I've paraphrased it some to shorten it....maybe it reminded me of our company leadership and many "zoners":
A truth: a thin line separates the temperament of a promising entrepreneur from a person who could use, as they say in psychiatry, a little help. Academics and hiring consultants say that many successful entrepreneurs have qualities and quirks that, if poured into their psyches in greater ratios, would qualify as full-on mental illness. Which is not to suggest that entrepreneurs are crazy. It would be more accurate to describe them as just crazy enough.
The attributes that make great entrepreneurs, the experts say, are common in certain manias, though in milder forms and harnessed in ways that are hugely productive. Instead of recklessness, the entrepreneur loves risk. Instead of delusions, the entrepreneur imagines a product that sounds so compelling that it inspires people to bet their careers, or a lot of money, on something.
So venture capitalists spend a lot of time plumbing the psyches of the people in whom they might invest. It’s not so much about separating the loonies from the slightly manic. It’s more about determining which hypomanics are too arrogant and obnoxious — traits common to the type — and which have some humanity and interpersonal skills, always helpful for recruiting talent and raising money.
Some V.C.’s have personality tests to help them weed out the former. Others emphasize their toleration of mild forms of mania, if only because starting a business is, on its face, a little nuts.
You need to suspend disbelief to start a company, because so many people will tell you that what you’re doing can’t be done, and if it could be done, someone would have done it already,” says Paul Maeder, a general partner at Highland Capital. “There are six billion human beings on this planet, we’ve been around for hundreds of thousands of years, we’re a couple hundred years into the industrial revolution — and nobody has done what you want to do? It’s kind of crazy.
THE hypomanic temperament is, of course, not limited to entrepreneurs. It’s found in politics (Theodore Roosevelt) the military (George S. Patton), Hollywood (the studio head David O. Selznick) and virtually any field where outsize risks yield enormous rewards.
But the business world has contributed more than its share of hypomanics, particularly the abusive, ornery kind. The most colorful of the breed was arguably Henry Ford.
“He epitomizes the unhinged, entrepreneurial spirit,” says Douglas G. Brinkley, a history professor at Rice University and author of “Wheels for the World,” a book about Mr. Ford and his company. “He became monomaniacal in his belief that the internal combustion engine should be fueled by gas, at a time when everything was electric, and nobody thought you could put gas on a hot motor.”
Mr. Ford could be both charmer and ruthless jerk. When he visited rural America to extol the horseless carriage, listeners were often left hoping that he would run for president. With employees, on the other hand, he was an autocrat who never brooked dissent. He clung so stubbornly to his vision — black cars, and only black cars, for the masses — that the company almost went bust when rivals like General Motors started offering more choices.
Nearly all conversations about contemporary hypomanics start with the Apple chief executive, Steven P. Jobs. Like Mr. Ford, he is a pitchman extraordinaire with a vaguely messianic streak, and, like Mr. Ford, he can anticipate what people will want before they even know they want it.
Mr. Jobs is also routinely described as a despot and control freak with a terrifying temper, says Leander Kahney, author of “Inside Steve’s Brain.”
Even the prospect of a chewing out by Steve Jobs makes people work 90 hours a week, says Mr. Kahney. He treats employees as tools, Mr. Kahney went on, as a means to an end, with the end defined as a universe of Apple products and services that are tailored precisely to his specifications.
I would argue that Jobs has used his control freakery to advantage, Mr. Kahney says. “The hallmark of Apple is the way it controls the entire user experience — the ads, the stores, the iPods. Nothing is left to chance. That comes from Steve Jobs.
Scholars in organizational studies tend to divide the world into “transformational leaders” (the group that hypomanics are bunched into, of course) and “transactional leaders,” who are essentially even-keeled managers, grown-ups who know how to delegate, listen and set achievable goals.
Hi Lady GoFor. How's Europe? It's no secret that the plan all along has been for hospital trials (and trials everywhere else) to truly never end. While the reports from the first trial will "kickstart" confidence and IMO, thereby, increase buying, we'll never stop testing. But MOST companies who design, develop, manufacture and distribute a product all do likewise. I think all the pieces to the puzzle will be in place by November. There's NOTHING that can stop us now. There is NO downside and the upside is really limitless.
That's right. If you look at many other boards penny stocks mostly but also many big boards, you see maybe 6-10 press releases of some kind every month, but most of them are such a yawner that it removes some credibility from the companies. These "fluff" releases are what MZEI is trying to avoid. And the bottom line is, you can NOT risk putting the cart before the horse. Protecting the IP is PARAMOUNT to future SUSTAINED/SUSTAINABLE success.
We've had THREE press releases in less than two weeks. No communication? Wow.
With the latest patent laws, AsepticSure will have NO realistic competition for 20 years, then they CAN be extended, but even if they are NOT extended, AsepticSure would likely have another 10-15 yrs of near TOTAL market domination...and within 3 years from NOW the market potential for AsepticSure will NOT be absorbed, but continually and CONSTATLY growing.
Well, in many respects, it is a formality. We've performed (with greater than ever hoped for success) trials in our own laboratory hundreds of times for the last several months. It could be noted here that a lab room may not be exactly the same makeup as a hospital suite, etc., etc. But REMEMBER that OUR trials have been conducted by well respected doctors, medical professionals, and hospital administration all along. Our consultants even have worked and been i leadership roles with the top level of govenment healthcare. They KNOW what to check for; HOW to proceed; and how to overcome any obstacle realative to achieving perfect results with our system. My guess is, that the pier witnessed performance of our system has astounded to the point of MZEI now making sure that we have ALL potential markets "sealed up" with patents before the cat is let out of the bag. There IS NO OTHER REASONABLE SPECULATION for these "come lately" last three patents being applied for BEFORE beta test results are announced. I believe that MZEI NOW considers the commercial success of AsepticSure so far reaching and indisputable, that they are taking NO CHANCES to make SURE that our mousetrap is PROTECTED against "johnny come lately's"....now that we've perfected the machine and the process/application. EVERYTHING here is being done correctly and in the correct order IMO.
I'm thinking there may have been some new opportunities that have presented themselves that required MZEI to not take their foot off the gas, but to make a slight turn left or right that could make reaching the endzone even more satisfying and productive. In my estimation, evidenced by the three most recent patent applications - that to my knowledge were NOT on the radar even 2 months ago.
I don't disagree with your main points. The fact is, if we went the Bill Gates/Microsoft route and became the developer, patentor, marketeer, and sales outlet, then after maybe 3-4 years of market penetration and sales we COULD legitimately have a "street" vallue of 25 billion or more. But here and NOW I beleive 3-4 billion is much more realistic and likely - this early in the game.
I think you're right skyski. It is a reasonable, potential, rather non-risky proposition at 3-4 billion - even in this economy and at THIS stage of the game.
"..., will prove to greatly enhance the commercial VALUE of our technology..." Hmmm......Sounds like we're polishing a diamond. Why would you polish a diamond? Hmmmmm.
CHECK OUT THE FRONT PAGE OF THE WEBSITE.
NEWS!!
Good morning lady Gofor. I see you're still flying high.
The AVERAGE time it takes to receive a patent is 30 months. You THEN have 12 months to add to, tweak, or make reasonably small revisions to it. I know that MZEI had one of the largest, most respected patent firms in the world - along with another individual who actually TAUGHT international patent law at the university level jointly develop and apply for our patents. I'm sure that no stone was left unturned as ozone patent applications were NOT unfamiliar to them. MZEI spent the money necessary to INSURE success. No worries here.
I think you're getting too excited. Maybe you and Phrantic should "spoon" together so the both of you can get some much needed rest. A man your age should not get too worked up.