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HNSS will go nuts if we break $0.003.
Next stop will be the 200DMA at $0.0058.
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I think everyone on the board is on the same page bluesky. MINNpack will make an incredible impression on HNSS's outlook going forward if the Microfill 2160 is ready and does what HNSS claims.
The rest of 2011 should be very exciting. There have been lots of great posts on the board as of late. It seems we have a lot of investors from different backgrounds that can support different conditions that HNSS may need or may be going through currently. This is what the board is all about.
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I think your enthusiasm is great, but you need to remember that this is a very young company. Paying for advertising is expensive. Word of mouth and free advertising is king here.
I try to keep my expectations low for this kind of thing. There are so many variables that we don't know about. Focusing on the fact that HNSS is launching their Microfill-2160 should be the priority in my mind. This is a huge milestone.
Black and HNSS will know better than anyone on what their plans are for this launch. There have been many times that I have heard others state what the company is likely to do (I am one of them), only to have something completely different come about. I don't want to 'expect' anything that the company hasn't previously stated.
Hopefully you know what I mean.
FYI: The company that is holding this expo also distributes manufacturing magazines to many corporations and entities. This is the free advertising that HNSS should be targeting. Contacting media for free advertising could really help get the word out.
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Yeah, I read this article about a month ago as well. An average manufacturing employee can cost up to $100,000/year with benefits. An efficient machine can greatly increase the profitability, especially if the select company can reduce the amount of employees necessary to run a machine (Microfill) while the machine is making more product than the previous one.
I think it is good to be upbeat about this show, but lets not 'expect' so many sales to take place immediately after. I think that it is safe to assume that HNSS needs to build the credibility of the Microfill Corporation first. Word will catch on quick between companies once it can be shown that HNSS's machine functions as stated.
I believe that the initial machines sold will have a discount compared to those that are sold later and when the machines have more demand.
The MINNpack show is a great first step in launching the Microfill-2160, but HNSS still has a long road ahead of them.
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A lot of these larger corporations are really hurting because of the increased regulations and poor global economy. HNSS technology should stick out enough for these kinds of companies to be interested in long term savings, but I think it will still be a time consuming event for them to choose the right company to purchase machines from.
I actually talked with one of the compliance and regulatory directors of a top tier medical device manufacturer and he stated that the whole industry is having to lay off a good chunk of their work force because of the increased costs in regulation and reduced affordability of such products because of the poor global economy.
These machines will be something that a company will want only if it is dependable and will add additional profits to a company's balance sheet long term. These decisions are anything but immediate or easy.
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No worries bluesky. Your summary was very well done. It is hard to get a perspective of what is said sometimes through words and not in person.
Next week should be interesting.
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I am in the same boat unfortunately. I have really been thinking about attending though. It is a 15+ hour drive for me one way.
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We could see some explosive upside to the 200DMA if we beak $0.003. It doesn't look like there are many shares available to purchase down here. The pps has bottomed.
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I never knew the exact process, but that sounds about right. I have also wondered if HNSS would be willing to produce the machine for a distributor that markets and sells it. This is just another reason why it would be so great to have someone go to the show in November. HNSS management should be able to explain a lot, including their strategies, time necessary to produce the machine and what may be put on the market in the near future. This is just the beginning of what they have in the pipeline for Microfill Corporation.
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I completely agree with you. Nobody would order a machine like this at the show. It is a huge investment by any company. I would be happy with 2-3 machines sold each quarter. HNSS just needs to make an impression with those who are interested in either buying a Microfill machine or increasing their company's efficiency. Then HNSS needs to worry about word of mouth throughout the industry. If the Microfill machine is as good as I think, then their machine manufacturing business should build considerably after the first 6 months of being online. Word of mouth means everything to a small business that doesn't have the money to advertise on a wide scale.
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$0.0024s back up. Step aside flippers. Your time is running out.
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120% Spread! It is so easy to see what is going on here.
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It looks like HNSS will be investing in other companies, purchasing a select few of those other companies and then possibly selling those 'new' subsidiaries of HNSS at a later date. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if HNSS sold Microfill Corporation in the next few years.
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We need some BID support or we will drop back down.
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Nice! $0.0025s on ASK!
Looking strong here. Lets keep it up!
Yes. Most of what I am talking about is Entrepreneurship 101. 40% of all companies become profitable. 30% of them break even and the other 30% never make money. HNSS started making a profit from the get go. This is the definition of true accretive purchases. They add profit to the bottom line immediately. Black isn't just expanding the O/S senselessly.
Note that HNSS is not buying out these companies immediately. They are investing time and money in them to make them profitable before they take them into HNSS's business.
I don't have PM anymore. It would be good to hear your thoughts on a few questions I have. My e-mail is punk153@hotmail.com if you are interested.
-TIA
There is more going on here than you know and that I know. Do you really think HNSS sold 100 million shares for $10,000? That would have been over 30% of the company at that time. Look at the expansion of HNSS and the BIG PICTURE here.
Again, if HNSS is expanding their O/S, but each share is worth more in the end, then I am fine with it. You have to invest in your own company in order to expand it. HNSS is investing in investments that will help them expand. It is very likely that HSNFund will be a self sustaining investment subsidiary that will be able to provide HNSS with necessary capital either now or in the near future. This capital will no longer have to come from share expansion. This is a good thing.
Black is trying to build a self sustaining company and he is building it in a way where the company can keep moving forward even if a door is shut down the road. He is diversifying the company into several markets, he is diversifying the way in which each subsidiary is financed and he is diversifying so that each subsidiary will be able to help one another (less outsourcing).
The kind of thought that is being put into HNSS is something that you very rarely see in the pinks. Large corporations do what HNSS is doing. Most small companies stick to one product line and if it fails, the company goes bankrupt. HNSS is beating most pinks on many different levels. It takes time to do this however.
Think of HNSS as an army building a moat around a castle with this diversification. The next phase is for the Army to go out beyond the moat to take on new challenges because they have the capital to do so. The Army can always come back to its core that is surrounded by a moat if they fail expanding into a new area. HNSS will push the moat out further and further as they conquer new challenges and expand. The key here is that they are trying to protect what they have already established. This takes a large amount of time and capital initially, but it can pay off handsomely down the road.
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I would put HNSS in the center. Remember that WWW, Microfill Corporation and HNSFund Corporation are HNSS subsidiaries. HNSFund provides the money that can help fund HNSS which will fund the other subsidiaries. Selling the subsidiaries or profits from the subsidiaries will then go back into funding HNS Fund. The key here is that there isn't a single business that is dependent on another.
Nice job by the way, very interesting indeed.
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I completely agree with you here. You would think that the first thing HNSFund would do is pay back the debt that they took on in the first place. If HNSFund did make nearly $1,000,000 in profit, then why not pay off any risky obligations that may have existed with the initial $500,000 in funding.
Black isn't an idiot. He has been in this business for some time, has dealt with mergers, acquisitions and is educated in finance.
It is hard to say exactly what is going on, but the new HNSS has been in existence for nearly a year now and is making a profit. That single thing should garner some much needed attention. The longer HNSS exists, the more likely HNSS is indeed making a profit and being truthful to shareholders.
Every PR that HNSS puts out will be looked back on in the future. Black has stated again and again that he is building HNSS into a profitable and growing business. If he is doing this, then he would want to be as truthful as possible to shareholders, but he would also want to restrict proprietary information and inefficiencies in order to grow his company effectively.
I still believe that Black is doing what he can to update shareholders. I don't think most realize the milestones HNSS will achieve once they launch the Microfill 2160 at MINNpack. This will signify that HNSS is a success and that it has a very bright future. I for one am happy that HNSS has such a goal in mind for November. This is a huge step for such a small company.
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Out of posts today.
I don't have a great understanding about it myself, but I would keep these kinds of details secret if my company was making profits like these. HNS Fund is the profit center of the company right now and it is asking a little much for investors to know of how these profits are being made. Shares have been added to the O/S, but that is fine by me as long as each new share generates more profit than what they were originally sold for. This is the essence of an accretive investment. Each piece of the company is growing in value, even through the issuance of new shares.
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Josey's thoughts on HNS Fund:
Prior HNS Fund PRs:
NOTE: The 100 million share investment of HNSS shares occured in October of 2010. Those 100 million shares allowed HNS Fund to obtain their $500,000 start-up capital which allowed them to make nearly $1,000,000 profit in a 3 month period.
I am not exactly sure how HNS Fund works. In my mind HNS Fund is taking an interest ownership in other companies by using HNSS shares as collateral. HNS Fund is also taking an active role in each company by providing capital and time investments. I don't think that you can use just the market price of HNSS stock in this argument. HNSS stock would be used to give a percent ownership to the company that HNSS is working with and taking an interest in. Contracts may provide something similar to a joint venture where HNSS would garner a percentage of any revenue they generated from the company with an option to purchase the company at a later date given that certain criteria are met.
Josey seems to have a good idea of what HNS Fund is doing. I think it is much more complex than what you are talking about.
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I have worked for several of the listed companies and have used several of these company machines. These names are huge. This isn't your run of the mill manufacturing expo. This is the cream of the crop. HNSS couldn't have picked a better expo to get the word out about the Microfill 2160.
Some names HNSS should have a serious interest in:
Beckman Coulter
Boston Scientific
Medtronic
Johnson & Johnson
Kraft Foods
Smiths Medical
St. Jude Medical
The expo is just part of it. Don't forget publications and word of mouth afterward. If HNSS's machine runs like it should, then HNSS should be a big hit this year. Big companies who are facing regulatory hurdles are always looking for ways to cut their production costs.
Sanitation alone is a huge business with companies like these. Not only is HNSS saying that the Microfill 2160 is sanitary, they are saying that it has multiple times the output of similar machines, uses fewer employees to run it and is energy/waste efficient.
HNSS is in serious trouble if they do not attend this expo.
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MINNpack is going to be HUGE for HNSS:
http://www.canontradeshows.com/expo/minnpack11/media/Minnpack2011DigitalProspectus.pdf
I continue to add and will continue to do so. Things are looking good here. Take advantage of these prices, no matter if there is a group working to depress the pps or not. I am not here for the short-term anyway.
Just wait unitil they sell 10+ Microfill machines. That is an easy $2.5+ million in the bank right there. I wouldn't doubt if HNSS sold Microfill at some point for $10+ million. That is when things will get really intersting. HNSS's growth could be exponetail given the right circumstances.
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It doesn't sound like HNSS will be selling itself anytime soon, but it does sound like they are trying to create I diversified investment portfolio that is self funded and does not rely on outside capital.
I think it is a very good business plan. HNS Fund doesn't seem to be what investors originally thought it would be, but it sure is raking in the money.
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Exactly. HNSS invested in a "Manufacturer of Specialty Medical Products" that worked with World Wide Wipes and developed a finished Microfill 2160 machine. All of these diversified arms of HNSS will really keep their growth moving strong. They are just beginning to make a profit. It should be really interesting to see what happens in the next few years.
Timeline with new company details
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=58032607
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Yes it is and there is much more than just the Microfill 2160. There are lots of components that can be sold separate from the base Microfill 2160.
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Understanding Passive versus Accretive Investing:
What Does Passive Investing Mean?
An investment strategy involving limited ongoing buying and selling actions. Passive investors will purchase investments with the intention of long-term appreciation and limited maintenance.
Investopedia explains Passive Investing
Also known as a buy-and-hold or couch potato strategy, passive investing requires good initial research, patience and a well diversified portfolio.
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/passiveinvesting.asp#axzz1XH7km3C7
What Does Accretive Mean?
The process of accretion, which is the growth or increase by gradual addition, in finance and general nomenclature. An acquisition is considered accretive if it adds to earnings per share.
Investopedia explains Accretive
In corporate finance, accretive acquisitions of assets or businesses will add more value than the cost of the acquisition, either immediately or over time. In fixed-income investments, the term refers to the increase in value attributable to interest accrued but not paid (discounted bonds, for example, earn interest through accretion until maturity).
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/accretive.asp#axzz1XH7km3C7
HNSS is looking more like an umbrella corporation day by day. They invest in, purchase and then build corporations; only to sell them at a later date, then invest that additional capital into new ventures.
Healthnostics Reveals 2011-12 Plan
6 minutes ago - Marketwire via Comtex
MarketwireHealthnostics, Inc. (PINKSHEETS: HNSS) revealed its innovative Plan for 2011-12. The Plan is based upon the Company's Accretive Synergy Program as administered through its HNS Fund Co. division. The accretive element consists of both active and passive investments in a variety of promising and profitable fields. Some passive investments are then converted into active investments when management identifies a fit and need for its services and resources. This is the synergy element. In this way the Accretive Synergy Program provides a reservoir for potential acquisitions.
Each of the three levels of accretive investment -- passive, active, and acquisition -- provide independent revenue streams, creating a highly flexible system that brings entrepreneurial and inventive input without the accompanying costs. The Company's Machine Manufacturing subsidiary grew out of this concept and is on the verge of significantly impacting revenue. Other investments include fields such as online entertainment, e-commerce, publishing, finance, and production/producing, and these contributed to the recently announced net gain of $957,000 in the market value of HNS Fund Co. Over the next 12 months, several of these investments are expected to move from passive to active status or from active to full acquisitions.
This press release may contain certain statements that are not descriptions of historical information, but are forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Exchange Act of 1934. These forward-looking statements refer to matters that involve risks and uncertainties. Such statements reflect management's current views and are based on certain assumptions. Actual results could differ materially from the assumptions currently anticipated.
Even day! Better than red...
I agree. This will also be a verifiable source of HNSS's existence and HNSS's Microfill machine.
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The problem with being on the pinks though is that shorts can nitpick at things that are unaudited. HNSS management can say whatever they want, but only audited filings and 3rd party confirmations can legitimize what is written in PRs. Either HNSS needs to get their financials audited or they need to provide investors with a way of confirming what is written in the PRs. HNSS's pps will continue to suffer until one or both of those two things happen.
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I am not sure HNSS management will perform an audit of their financials. I think Black would rather sell the company that continue to build it.
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7/22/2009
Healthnostics Announces New Direction for MedBioWorld.com Portal Web Site
*First PR with new ticker symbol (HNSS)