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What does 335 x 76 x $4 get you for one account get you? Let's talk about WNBD coming back strong in Walmart. Let's talk about 330 Do It Best stores added and taking stock. That's all immediate revenues that will slow down the dilution until there is none and reverses into profits. That's the real end game.
Again, I trust the decisions of major coporations (Walmart/Sam's Club, Home Depot, Lowes, Duane Reade, Canadian Tires, US government (GSA), Do It Best) to deal with WNBD than any poster on a board whether they are pro or against WNBD. These corporations are the ones that truly speak for WNBD's performance.
I think they'll get picked up by Home Depot USA store before Lowes. Timeline on that, I don't have an idea. It does seem that Lowes is not doing as well as Home Depot and has closed some stores recently in the USA so don't have as much room for error to bring on new products. If Lowes USA does happen to bring on 1000+ in the near future, that's going to be a huge vote of confidence in the product.
Personally I am not investing in WNBD depending on them getting Home Depot or Lowes. They have plenty of accounts already in place that are significant reasons to invest in WNBD IMO as well as developing opportunities (GSA, Hotels, Sams Club) that are likely to hit this year.
4th Qtr should be out end of March along with the anual numbers.
1st Qtr should be out mid April.
It's not likely that WNBD will deliver ealier since historically they have delivered numbers on time, but not early in the past,
That would be great but I'm sure the budget is hamstringing the advertisement effort. I know they were doing radio ads but I don't know what they are doing now since they have cut back to save operating cost. With Walmart taking 1000+ on in all their stores, I wonder what commitments WNBD has to support the sales through product awareness campaigns?
If Walmart is doing 1000+ endcaps across the board in Canada, that's a huge awareness campaign right there. Loads a traffic hit Walmart stores. It's huge that we are in Walmart just for gaining awareness of the product.
Last year 1000+ was just beginning to get placed in these stores towards the end of the year and WNBD did $600K. Now that they are firmly on the shelves we should see much more revenue. WNBD was making approx $500K when it was in Walmart the first time and that was with less Walmart store and not near as many other stores such as Lowes, Do It Best, and others that have come on board since. I think this year will be a huge jump in revenues.
I don't know if all 335 store get the same stock of product but I count approx 75 bottles just on the end cap. That's 335 x 75 x $4? That's approx $100K for just one account. I'm sure Walmart was able to get a pretty good volume deal so $4 dollars is a place holder, but you get the idea. WOW!!
Anyone know what a Form 1 type transaction is? That's what that last 3 mil trade showed as being.
Guess Walmart doesn't follow you're philosophy and I'd have to say they've been very succesnful running their business with their teams of buyers selecting products.
When companies like Walmart have enough faith in the product to bring it on board, I am encouraged in my investment. I would assume Walmart has a much larger team of experts to sift through marginal products to not allow them on their shelves. The fact that we are even in stores like Walmart, Home DePot, Lowes, Canadian Tires, and Duane Reade speaks volumes about the 1000+ product and the faith these companies have that WNBD will be around to service them even with the pps and the dilution at current levels.
I definitely put my faith in these large chain's decision making on WNBD and their products than any armchair CEO's that constantly bombard this board. Go WNBD..........
Didn't say that I believed it, just repeating your quote. Thanks for clarifying.
Its numbers now if his business doubled in 2 months the business is still very very far underwater.
Only a trusted balance sheet will be believed.
Thanks. I'm glad you are tracking this so closely. I might have missed that.
IMO the share price reflects that the revenues are still too low to justify investors paying a higher price for shares. This is why this year needs multiple deals like the hotels. WNBD needs to be self sufficient or at least showing it is well on its way to achieving self suffieciency by the end of the year. To do that, WNBD needs the large recurring orders: GSA, hotels, Sam's Club, etc.
Duane Reade is an example of a consumer operation that is taking too long to develop for the company's revenue needs today. In the long run, accounts like Duane Reade will be great. But today we need accounts that can quickly supply funds to support the foundation of the company.
I still believe that 2012 is a very critcal make or break year for WNBD. I'm a long term investor but I do also recognize the crossroads that the company is at currently.
You make a very valid statement Doog. With so many stores we need to see more recurring sales from those stores.
The hotel sales and the like show promise especially since that is an industry that uses a lot of cleaning product on a continuous basis. Seems like a strategy shift is due to concentrate more on industries like this initially to maximize revenues coming. If WNBD can actually get $600k out of 100 hotels, that would approx double the revenues.
Makes sense to me to concentrate more on industries like this that use cleaning products continuously such as hotels, car dealerships, cruise ships, resteraunts, car repair shops, etc. These establishments would use gallons versus the occasional houshold use. He also doesn't need to go all the way to Palm Springs. These type of sales are in his own back yard of Canada.
They do accept carats though! :)
Good questions. Now all you need to do is email them to the person that can answer them, Eric!
Again, just speculation. Ask Eric the question. Sound's like he's up to answering the tough one.
Sounds like Eric would be pretty responsive if you cantact him directly with that question. He has the answer. You and I don't. Just pure speculation on our part.
From the January 4th Do It Best blog, 330 is approx a 30 store increase in one month.
4000 x 7.5% = 300 stores (Jan 4th)
Sounds like Eric would be pretty responsive if you cantact him directly with that question. He has the answer. You and I don't. Just pure speculation on our part.
Good point lbdave. I missed that significance. UK account is great and adds to the 1st qtr revenues but not a huge deal. Getting the product approved for the EU economies is a big deal. Let's see where it goes from here.
I would not be surprised if the EOD buy at 5 were the 504 also to try and keep the PPS in a range that they can still off load shares. I say drop support and make them either hold or dump at a lower price than what they want to sell. When 20, 30 million shares are sitting on the bid it's easy for them to dump.
You mean the 504 is so predictable. They waited to see if there was action at the 5's and when they didn't see it they lowered it there dump to the 4's. Until we see financials that show a reasonable revenue growth trend or a blockbuster PR is released (NA or larger GSA order) then I beleive this is just going to hover around the 4s - 6's until then, maybe even some 3's. Investors aren't going to chase, they're already loaded and waiting but they will pick cheap shares when available like today.
If you are interested in who is "happy" you can perform the pole. It was said that there is no interest in WNBD. 4000 shareholders and 793 board followers clearly shows there is interest. It does not represent good or bad interest. That is pure speculation.
With 98.34% of your posts (237) on the WNBD board and that you pay for that privilage, I'd say you show plenty of interest in WNBD.
Also with 793 followers on this board it shows plenty of interest in WNBD.
Ya'. Looks like 504s don't want this to get much lower than 5's and 4's so they're letting it float back up the 6's and sometimes 7's. Trying to get as much cash as possible.
Plenty of companies are able to accomplish going from nothing to positive income in less then 6 years but it depends on the type of company. Example: mobile car wash business, minimal outlay of funds but able to make profit in short period. Of course that business may take a while before it is able to go national.
There needs to be an apples to apples comparison between company start-up types. Hanson Soda or WD-40 would be better comparisons on how long it takes to go from 0 to $$$$.
Outstanding shares was close to 720 million (not 200) at end of '07 per financials. The math on where this could go a run historically takes in account the dilution since then. All we need is the revenues to start increasing significantly to show that the company is pulling out of the tailspin its been in.
Good luck to you in your investments also.
"You had better go back on that history and take a look at the diluted shares then and up to today."
Reread my post and you will see that dilution was included in the math.
We have higher revenues (though not much more) than we did in '08. We have larger accounts than we did in '08. We have less operating cost today than we did in '08. We have greater opportunities today than we did in '08. We are growing further in the USA than we did in '08.
No fluff. Just educated risk given where revenues are today and that they need to increase this year and into '13 to a self-sustaining level. When this happens the stock will fly. If you don't see results by the end of the year, you may see shareholders fly instead. 2012 is a critical year in my opinion and has just started. You'll see a lot of money made this year or people folding their hands. I think it'll one or the other and not much in between. I'll let my money ride since at this level you have a lot more to gain than lose. JMHO.
Since you like to quote history of the charts, how bought when the when WNBD skyrocketed from these levels to .04 (4 cents). Given that is 100x jump with much less going on at that time then today, .002 or .003 is far from a dream. It's a very conservative estimate on how far this could jump.
If you count history, taking the 100x jump divided by the increase in OS (say 5x) since that 100x jump. You still have a 20x jump in pps. That's a possible jump up .008 if you look historically. 3 to 4 times higher than the .002 or .003 I was suggesting.
See, I like history too. As you say, "keep it real".
given of course the pps doesn't skyrocket above .0004 to .002 or .003.
Isn't math and numbers fun. You can make them say anything you want to.
That's Ok since the child has spread lemonade stands acrross all the major and minor routes. No worries. you'll be able to get that spectacular lemonade anywhere. Even online so you don't have to spend your gas to get it.
That's because that child has to pay for facilities to make the lemonade, pay people to sell the lemonade, and advertise the lemonade. Until enough people try the lemonade, like the lemonade, and spread the word how good it is, the child's sales are limited and makes only the 30 cents average after the operating cost. But once everyone starts buying that spectacular lemonade, operating cost stay the same and become only a fraction of the 90 cents the child is selling the lemonade for so the child gets to retire very rich along with the friends that invested in the lemonade to get it started. I like that analogy.
You ever worked in the maintenance field? There are a variety of lubricants used, many teflon based. In the work I did we never used WD-40. There were better lubricants that met our application.
Fact is that no product fits every need. As a company, you just want to get your product used the most and gain market share.
Not necessarily more quantity. Lubricants get use in the quarts and gallons. Look at how many quarts of oil (lubricant) your car uses but you typically only change it once every 3000 miles depending on how much maintenance you do on your car.
WD-40 is also not the product of choice everywhere for every "multiple uses of any and all lubricants". Most lubricant applications you are referring to have special lubricant requirements and use the lubricant made that maintenance item (ie. cars, manufacturing equipment, aircraft, and list goes on).
I imagine WD-40 does have industrial applications in large quantity but I don't know of any. 1000+ crosses the barrier and is used in both commercial/industrial and household use. It is available in 4 oz. bottels and 50 gallon barrel drums. The potential is there to explode across the board as it is discovered by more users with more uses.
Much more than WD-40. I can't remember the last time I needed WD-40 but look how well that company does. Stains happen everyday so people will reach for 1000+ over and over once they try it and it becomes their product of choice.
Tnink you'll have a hard time proving "Misappropriation of funds" for this company. Good chance more money could come out of your pocket if WNBD decides to file a counter suit though. Better be sure your facts line up before you pull the trigger.
Why 100K? You don't take into acocunt sales reveunes coming in to offset some of the operating cost?
Please fill us in on your math. I calculate that $75K needs to be raised not $100K. That equates to 125M to 150M shares per month at these pps levels.
Sounds good to me. Is this a feature of iHub?