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If you wanna put your money where your mouth is i'll take the bet. HH OUT.....
Slo I can answer that for you, they have 1 patented product and also 2 other patents pending if that helps. HH OUT....
Edmond good catch, I'll keep my eye on it thanks. HH OUT....
IH Admin [Dan] on the utrm board that im banned from posts 202 and 217 give you the info I was refering to.Thanks
What facts is she preserving they are over 1 year old. I think alot has changed in 1 year don't you Mrs.Dilligham? How are you making out with your product? I haven't seen you here for quite some time what do we owe this honor to? Maybe you could shed some light on things since management won't. When is your court date? How do you feel about your chances? HH OUT...
Oh I see Mrs.dilligham is back do you have any insight to add or just here to observe? HH OUT....
AGREED. HH OUT....
I could sell $100 of my stock if i want to try and manipulate the stock. Why some one would sell $100 worth and pay the commision is beyond me. HH OUT....
CORRECT!!! on all counts but it's nice to see the flip side of all this. HH OUT....
We are creeping north every day looking for a penny by Friday Fingers Crossed. HH OUT.....
Not if you sell it smart. HH OUT....
Agreed Edmond, I think they will wish they hadn't sold but the longs here will benefit from their haste. HH OUT.....
maybe there hasn't been an update. We just finished with two holidays and these things don't happen overnight. HH OUT....
I know I think that is a good thing and people are going to have to pay more to get in this stock at this point :). HH OUT....
Better get them while the getting is cheap won't be here for ever. HH OUT....
Pru you are correct they just hate it "movin on up". HH OUT....
agreed it doesn't look like there are to many shares to be had down here. HH OUT....
I don't really think their focus is the people buying on the internet, I think they are focused on a much bigger picture. JMHO of course. HH OUT...
and I'm sure when your little package arrives all the content will be there for your viewing pleasure. HH OUT....
you could say it about an major company in any country, they all want to monopolize there respective trades and put the small guys out of business. HH OUT....
of course they are they don't want to compete against a company with this kind of disruptive technology. HH OUT...
of course they are but that's why it's called house keeping. I can't do it and neither can you! I think when that is taken care of then the company can move on. but of course that is just MHO. HH OUT....
Why do I have to be specific? We all know what has to be done but here is the 2cent tour just for you. The GSK lawsuit,Dillingham,Cartridge,shipping,distributors and so on. I'm sure you would and a few more things but that's the jist of it. Oh and of course I held the brush at the dental convention last year where have you been? HH OUT...
He didn't and doesn't have any information, he is just ranting. I don't think it is the owners as much as circumstances surrounding the product and the lawsuits. I know because I have see the product and know that it can't be far away from launching and it seems likely that they are just waiting to do some house keeping before they launch. HH OUT....
I guess your take is no news is current news.That certainly is the majority feeling on the board though. HH OUT....
always living in the past? I guess so since you keep talking about Dina Lohan. I was refering to the movments over the last week. HH OUT....
Uh yeah i thought I covered that. I'm seeing a trend here and the trend is GREEN. HH OUT...
I think you will see a turn around on this stock in the coming days and weeks. JMHO of course. Let me save you the banter It's just a gut feeling OK. HH OUT....
I wish I knew.HH OUT....
??? sg believe me I bet they ship yours first they can't wait to get your money LOL. HH OUT....
so do you think now that you preordered a brush that some how the company owes you a response? I ordered 1 brush 10 months ago and haven't got mine but i don't call and rant about it. When they ship i'm sure you will get 1 or 2 for that matter. HH OUT...
now slo you know that's not the case even the biggest hypocrite ordered two. There are people who have ordered product they just haven't filled the orders yet. I can't wait till this hurdle has been overcome I want to see what you guys have to say then. HH OUT....
I think the only reason we haven't seen the product yet is the GSK issue that of course is IMHO of course but it seems logical. I also think that we haven't really had much news for the very same reason.I also think the PET application might bode very well for the company and might be recieved very well in those type of circles but I guess only time will tell. HH OUT...
it's not a question of will it run it's just a matter of when IMHO. HH OUT...
AH but it could be!!! HH OUT
sg maybe you were order number 142 for the day ;)....HH OUT
I'M hoping after Sept. we will get the vacationers back and trend a little, notice of orders and shipping will also help :)...HH OUT
Where did you get that little tid bit MAD magazine? LOL... Where would you get such a notion? I would like you to quantify that absurd statment. Can you post the article? Can you send us pictures? or are you just frustrated and lashing out? HH OUT.... wishing he was in Hawaii :)
NOTHING!!!! I was just giving you some homework sg. HH OUT....
sg you are always looking for due dilligence here's some for you.
also anyone looking to quite smoking just brush your teeth more since Fluoride is a carcinogen LOL. The big 3 have you all fooled.HH OUT....
Brushing up
by Brian Wimer, Stork News
Smile. You and your kids are about to change toothpastes.
If you are one of the majority of Americans that dutifully brushes with Colgate Total, on your dentist's recommendations, you may be doing yourself more harm than good. What's first in the eyes of the dental dictocrats may be the last thing you want in your mouth.
ADA-approved Colgate Total claims to be the only toothpaste "clinically proven" to "protect both above and below the gum line." It has a patented formula for "12 hour" protection against cavities, gingivitis and plaque, due to the active ingredients: fluoride and triclosan (paired with gantrez, an adhesive copolymer).
Let's start with fluoride. Now, listen closely. Fluoride might cause cavities. Sounds like heresy, doesn't it?
But this has been known since 1942, when Proctor & Gamble's own initial clinical studies found a 23% increase in dental caries among children who used their fluoride toothpaste Teel. The reason: for fluoride to bond to teeth, it must remove calcium – that's called fluorosis.
UNICEF, which currently runs de-fluoridation programs for the World Health Organization, says: "Agreement is universal that excessive fluoride intake leads to loss of calcium from the tooth matrix, aggravating cavity formation throughout life rather than remedying it."
Sorry, water fluoridation is quite likely a bust. And that's not news.
In 1999 the New York State Department of Health completed an unprecedented 45-year study comparing children in Newburgh, New York, which had been fluoridated for those 45 years – with Kingston, New York, which had never been fluoridated. Conclusion: no significant difference in cavities but statistically more dental fluorosis in fluoridated Newburgh.
This critical study effectively nullified the prior findings of the benchmark 10-year 1955 survey comparing these same towns – which allegedly found 70% fewer carries in fluoridated Newburgh, and stood as the ADA's primary clinical "evidence" for the nationwide fluoridation policies that followed.
Again, the 1999 findings were no revelation. In 1988 the National Institute of Dental Research and the United States Public Health Service completed a massive $3.6 million nationwide survey to assess fluoridation efficacy. The data (unveiled by a Freedom of Information Act filing) revealed no difference in tooth decay between fluoridated and non-fluoridated communities. Similar findings had been made by public health officials in New Zealand and Canada.
Water fluoridation promotion boils down to bad research. A 2000 review of 214 water fluoridation safety and efficacy studies (which censured both fluoridation proponents and critics) found little more than a wealth of poor science. Among researchers' conclusions, "The most serious defect of the studies of possible beneficial effects of water fluoridation was the lack of appropriate design and analysis."
A similar summation of fluoridation efficacy studies is spelled out in a statistical overview undertaken by the University of California, Davis, Department of Mathematics. "The announced opinions and published papers favoring mechanical fluoridation of public drinking water are especially rich in fallacies, improper design, invalid use of statistical methods, omissions of contrary data, and just plain muddleheadedness and hebetude."
There's more. Fluoride may even cause gingivitis. According to a 1998 US patent (#5,807,541) by the pharmaceutical company Sepracor, fluoride activates the very oral "G proteins" that lead to chronic gingivitis, periodontal disease and ultimately tooth loss.
Besides, fluoride is poison. EPA scientists rate fluoride as "more toxic than lead, and not quite as toxic as arsenic." That's why all fluoride toothpaste tubes warn: "If you accidentally swallow more than used for brushing, seek professional assistance or contact a Poison Control Center immediately."
Fluoride (despite ADA claims) is also a carcinogen. Studies by the National Cancer Institute's former Chief Chemist Emeritus Dr. Dean Burke show that fluoridation is responsible for 10,000 cancer deaths yearly. "In point of fact, fluoride causes more human cancer deaths, and causes it faster, than any other chemical," says Burke. Research from St Louis University, Japan's Nippon Dental College and the University of Texas show that fluoride stimulates tumor growth rate. The New Jersey Department of Health found the risk of osteosarcoma among males under 20 was up to seven times higher in fluoridated areas.
A 1995 peer-reviewed study by Harvard neurotoxicist Dr Phyllis Mullinex, concludes that fluoride also causes brain damage. Her findings were corroborated by more recent clinical surveys in China. Plus, in 1999, 1,500 EPA scientists, lawyers and engineers signed a joint resolution to oppose fluoridation because they found that fluoride causes: "gene mutations, cancer, reproductive effects, neurotoxicity, bone pathology and ... decreases (of) about 5 to 10 I.Q. points in children aged 8 to 13 years."
Robert Carton, Ph.D, a former president of the EPA professionals union who spent 15 years as a US EPA toxicologist, says, "Fluoridation is the greatest case of scientific fraud of this century, if not of all time."
Now, let's talk about triclosan, a pesticide (technically a chlorinated aromatic, similar in molecular structure to the most toxic forms of dioxins and PCBs) – the anti-biotic disinfectant used in kitchen sponges and hospital soap.
Microbiologists at the Tufts University School of Medicine believe overuse of triclosan promotes the creation of anti-biotic-resistant "superbugs.'' Worse still, findings presented to the American Society for Microbiology over the past several years suggest that triclosan actually helps resistant bacteria thrive, forming resilient biofilms on teeth and water pipes.
Moreover, triclosan is a nonspecific biocide. It kills all microbes, the good and the bad – even those flora necessary for digestion. The copolymers used in Colgate Total keep triclosan active for 12 hours after you brush.
Lastly, triclosan may even contain true dioxins. A report from Quantex Laboratories, in Edison, New Jersey, states, "Polychlorodibenzo-p-dioxins (dioxins) and polychloro-dibenzofurans (dibenzofurans) can be found in varying low level amounts, as synthesis impurities in triclosan." Similar findings were made in 2003 by researchers at the University of Minnesota.
Triclosan is also use d in Crest, Mentadent, Sensodyne and Macleans toothpastes, all of which also contain fluoride. And let's mention sodium and potassium hydroxides (also known as lye), the whitening ingredient in many conventional toothpastes. Lye is considered a poison by the Food and Drug Administration.
So, what to use? Try natural toothpastes, which battle cavities without potentially dangerous synthetic ingredients.
Many natural brands utilize neem (Indian lilac) bark, a natural astringent and antiseptic, containing immunomodulatory polysaccharides that increase antibody production. Neem also increases lymphomatic counts of red and white blood cells, and aids in treating digestive disorders like diarrhea, hyperacidity and constipation – just what you need after a meal.
Another popular natural ingredient is peelu, from the East Asian Siwak (chewstick) tree. Peelu's non-abrasive vegetable fiber gently cleans teeth without eroding them like chalk (widely used in toothpastes) can. Peelu also contains antiseptic tannin, Vitamin C and natural resins that strengthen tooth enamel.
Most natural toothpastes also use myrrh, an anti-microbial, astringent immuno-stimulant, beneficial against gingivitis and mouth ulcers – and propolis, an immuno-stimulating anti-bacterial resin. Many contain plaque-fighting eucalyptus, and are flavored and sweetened naturally with fennel, anise and cinnamon, all of which are herbal aids for digestion.
Auromere's Ayurvedic toothpaste contains such holistic astringents and therapeutic agents as Indian licorice root (excellent for mouth sores), pomegranate rind (an astringent), Persian walnut, Indian almond, Asian holly oak and geranium extract (an antiseptic anti-inflammatory). Weleda has calendula. Nature's Gate has goldenseal. Herbal-vedic contains banyan tree bark, wild celery (an anti-inflammatory carminative) and nutrient-rich Irish moss.
Tom's of Maine toothpastes are the most widely available. They don't do animal testing or use artificial sweeteners like carcinogenic saccharine or aspartame (unlike most major national brands like Colgate and Crest).
Perhaps the most innovative alternative toothpastes are those made by Jason Natural Cosmetics. Jason Sea Fresh combines detoxifying, biologically-active blue green algae with sea salts. Jason toothpastes also use plaque-inhibiting, omega-3-rich Japanese perilla seed extract – and Coenzyme Q10 (ubiquinone), a naturally-occurring, detoxifying nutraceutical. They also avoid the use of caustic foaming-agent sodium lauryl sulfate and humectant propylene glycol (a component of anti-freeze), both questionable ingredients of many national-brand toothpastes.
Consider also the addition of baking soda, a low-abrasion cleanser, which chemically neutralizes the staph-generated oral acids responsible for tooth decay.
The final word: Dental health is more dependent on your diet than your dentifrice. According to the USDA, Americans per capita consume 34 teaspoons of sweetener per day. And not just in candy. Sweeteners are used in everything from breakfast cereal to pasta sauce. Worst is soda. Acidic, carbonated soft-drinks dissolve tooth structures – and their massive sugar content feeds plaque.
And don't drink too much green tea. Indeed, green tea has been shown to inhibit tooth decay. Green tea catechin (epigallocatechin gallate, an antioxidant 100 times more powerful than Vitamin C ) suppresses the process by which decay-causing bacteria create plaque, and acts as an anti-bacterial, as well. But green tea contains considerable natural fluorine. Steeped in fluoridated water, green tea can put you way over your USDA RDA of what's the new DDT at the EPA.
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