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All this baby needs is some volume and it will really pop. While it is frustrating for us I do believe it shows that the management of the company is fully aware that this thing will be very valuable in the future so they are not actively trying to pump price. They don't need to.
I on the other hand am anxious for news and some increased exposure. It is difficult to be patient :)
Food for Thought and help figuring it out.
From what I can glean there are about 10 - 15 people here who own about 8 - 9 million of the 18.9 million shares. So roughly 1/2 of the float. Assuming everyone here is being honest.
Does that sound accurate?
Average volume is running at about 290,000 shares. At an average of 5000 shares per transaction (could be higher) that is only 45 transactions a day. So 45 transactions playing with about 9 million shares.
what will happen to this stock when transactions go to 100 or 200 or 1,000?
This thing is sick!
I don't get the 1500 share sales. $61.50 minus broker fees. Unlimited upside thrown away to possibly save $60.00 bucks? I suppose it could be a partial fill - which is good for us because it means hardly anyone is moving off of their ask. Still seems very short sighted to me.
LT could not tell me the financing structure - I am not surprised and doubt they really know yet how things will be structured. We could see some dilution - it certainly would not surprise me and in fact I expect it. Fortunately I believe that the purpose and news behind any dilutive action will actually propel the stock price higher.
Mr Snaper - Chemist here is some info on Snaper as a scientist and inventor. This is why I say I trust his mind but not his business acumen.
About Alvin Snaper
Prior to joining Capstone, Mr. Alvin Snaper has served as a Senior Consultant to other major corporations and organizations, including IBM, General Foods, NASA, Boeing, Gillette, Singer, U.S. Air Force, Rocketdyne, General Motors, Lockheed Aircraft, Sanyo, Philips, Gulf Western, Union Carbide, etc. He has been awarded more than 600 patents, many for significant industrial products and processes. Some of his inventions and commercial products include the IBM Selectric Type Ball, Tang, the NASA Apollo Photo- Pack, Coating Process for Gillette Razor Blades, and the Electrostatic Painting Process & System for Auto Components Assemblies for General Motors, to name a few. Mr. Alvin Snaper holds the single honor and individual distinction of being recognized three times with 'Best Patent of the Year' award by Design News magazine, and is the author of numerous technical and scientific papers.
I get what you are eluding to and have consider some of these questions myself. What I have personally decided is that Mr. Snaper is a brilliant scientist and inventor and a very poor businessman. The fact that Mr. Prentice is actively involved in the company gives me great comfort. I trust Mr. Snaper's science (based on patents and currently used technology) but not his ability to get a good idea to market.
Mr. Prentice on the other hand has a proven track record of success within the diamond industry.
I also will feel better knowing that venture capital firms are ponying up money and will be watching over things somewhat.
Zenyatta mining stock price jumped 26% when they announced (in February) that they are synthically producing graphite in their mining processes.
Graphite with 99.9% purity can demand a price of $20,000 to $30,000 per tonne. It is a 13 billion dollar industry by itself. CTDT produces graphite as a by product.
Also think about the power of a magna-tek machine. It turns carbon into diamond in a second. There has to all kinds of potential uses for this kind of harnessed power. CTDT holds the patent for this technology.
Industrial diamonds by themselves are a huge market. With the additional products and possible uses for the technology CTDT could easily become a billion dollar company.
Even if they don't somebody will pay a lot of money for the technology and patents.
There are several synthetic diamond manufacturers already prodcing.
Gemesis has been producing diamonds since 2002. They service the gem stone quality market and have several hundred machines producing diamonds. It takes 4 days per diamond in there process and the largest they can produce is 3ct.
"Indeed, Gemesis is seeing rapid growth. It adds a new diamond pressure-cooker to its collection of hundreds every few days. Having tripled diamond production since last summer, Lux plans to further expand its 10,000-square-foot operation later this year"
Apollo diamonds take 2 to 4 weeks to produce and are only 1/4 to 1/2 ct. in size.
CTDT takes seconds and can produce unlimited sizes. CTDT will also focus on the larger market (industrial).
The most expensive process in the diamond industry is the exploration and mining operations. These are some of the reasons CTDT's margins are so staggering. Faster process, larger diamonds, no exploration or mining.
Diamonds are:
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The hardest natural material known to man
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The most effective heat conducting material, which also expands very little when subjected to high
temperatures, unlike most other conducting materials
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Resistant to most acids and alkalis
synthetic diamond accounts for about 98% of the industrial diamond used in the United States and nearly 90% of the industrial diamond used in the world.
Diamonds that are not sold as fine gems have been used in various industrial applications for years - including machining tools and abrasives.
Demand far outstrips supply.
One of the things LT said was there are markets for industrial diamonds that have not even been created yet.
Some info on the diamond market:
An estimated US$13 billion
worth of rough diamonds are produced per year, of which approximately US$8.5 billion are from Africa
(approximately 65%). The diamond industry employs approximately ten million people around the world, both
directly and indirectly, across a wide spectrum of roles from mining to retail. Global diamond jewellery sales
continue to grow, increasing three-fold in the past 25
years, and are currently worth in excess of US$72 billion
every year.
70% of diamonds are sold
for industrial applications including
cutting, drilling, grinding and polishing in industrial applications.
This is the market CTDT will be in
Glad to help. I know Bradlee has done a lot of the heavy lifting on reporting. Hotrod has helped with his bros info too. The more we can all put together the better.
I know a lot of people will sell their shares when this hits .50 or 1.00. They will make a lot of money and I don' blame them. But this company could climb and split and climb and split a few times and still be in the $3.00 to $5.00 range after splits. A forward split of 1 to 3 twice with a follow-on price of $3.00 and you are talking millions in profit. Frankly I don't think that is far fetched. I might take out my initial investment but otherwise I am letting this baby ride!
Perhaps the greatest value this company has (outside of the technology) is that Mr. Snapper and Mr. Prentice are running things. They give this company incredible legitimacy. When you add a venture capital company that is versed in helping start-ups be successful you have a great recipe for success.
Unlimited demand
Limited Supply
Game changing technology
Well known respected insiders
Venture capital expertise
add in a limited number of stock shares available. This is a very rare opportunity.
I think I gave you most of the important information. If I think of anything else I will pass it on.
Outlook - LT is trying to get approval for a PR company with a 6 month contract. He does not want a pump and dump type promo. He would like an initial 30 day with follow-ups for an additional 5 months. He would also like to go out with the first one prior to the end of April. He will be in Vegas for 8 days of meetings starting Monday and hopes that after the meetings they can begin to release a lot of information that has been piling up.
3 machines is just the beginning. The demand for industrial diamonds far outstrips the supply. DeBeers is actually getting into the manufactured diamond business. This is a young industry with a ton of growth potential. CTDT has the technology to lead the way. They also have other products which they can market and hope to announce on that soon as well.
Investors, channel partners and others will all be meeting together next week. This stock is set to explode.
Sales channels - This is the area where LT could not offer a lot of information. Not because he is not allowed but because it is a very complex issue and they are working things out. Mr. Prentice is invaluable in this process because of his knowledge and reputation in the industry. Currently the GIA tries to run everything and control the sales of diamonds. With the growth of the industrial diamond business and synthetic diamonds that needs to change. It is very political and will be one the most difficult issues for the company to answer.
Funding - How, what kind and why new funding. The new funding is for the purchase of 3 new machines (that is the plan) so they can go into production. It will also allow for additional staff to manage the machines and administrative requirements.
They had over 43 venture/capital firms interested in investing and cut the list down to a handful. So many more companies expressed interest they re-opened the process and now have 12 to 13 potential investors looking at 1 to 5 million as the initial investment.
He could not tell me the finance structure yet so I don't know if it will be equity or debt. The good news is these companies are very involved with the companies they invest in. They will make sure sound decisions, business practices and strategic plans are followed. They will also probably want a lot of PR - particularly if they are equity based.
How will they compete price wise? - According to LT the margins for their produced diamonds are staggering. Nobody else comes close and there will not be anyone in the market for the forseeable future who will be able to compete price wise.
First question - Is the manufacturing process complete. The answer is absolutely yes. The magna-tech process is 100% complete and viable. Currently they only have 1 machine and it has been dedicated to Research and Development. They are looking at purchasing 3 more machines to begin with so they can start manufacturing for sale. That is one of the reasons they are looking at funding partners.
The size of the diamonds are only limited by the size of the vessels they use in the machine. If they have a vessel the size of a VW they could produce a diamond that large (or larger).
Just got off of a 30 minute phone all with LT. I got a lot of answers and some questions they just can't answer yet which I now understand why. I will put the information into several post so it is easier to read. If you don't have all your shares you better buy them before the releases start. This thing is the real deal and I don't have a clue just how big it can get.
Asking on the blog is a good idea. I will try that. If we push a little bit it may give him some leverage to get some answers.
Bradlee,
I am grateful for your reports from LT. They help but I do have a favor. I cannot get LT to return my calls and I have a lot of questions. Frankly the information LT shares is vague or in riddles. As a group we probably own 20% to 50% of the outstanding shares of CTDT and we deserve better information. It is difficult to make investing decisions or even promote the company when all we have are promises. Can you possibly ask some of the following questions:
Up until now this has been a start up venture based on the patented technology and required R&D to prove it’s viability. Is it proven now?
What about new funding partners? Have they selected them? Are they looking for them? Why do they need them? What will the funding be used for? Is it to go into mass production or continued R&D? If they are getting new, or additional funding partners will they be equity or debt partners? If equity – what form? Will they issue more stock creating dilution? Will they split? Will they issue another class of stock? If debt then what terms? What will they pay the debt back with?
Are they going into production? If so with what products? What is the production time line and schedule? How much product can they produce? Do they have manufacturing partners lined up? Distributors? Buyers? Sales force?
Will they continue with R&D for some products? Which products? What is the plan?
By the way a press release is not sufficient. Press releases are for the public. We are not the public we are shareholders. We should not be kept in the dark.
Thanks for considering it.
Absolutely right! scarcity of diamonds and scarcity of stock. I love it!!
Scarcity plus demand - the best combo in any business!
Perhaps - regardless I am really not worried about how people purchase and sell their shares. That is the beauty of the market. The value in this stock is not how we each respond to the market but in the product and company potential. A unique opportunity that can make anyone willing to be patient wealthy :)
Actually I believe he was referring to the poster who said he and his brother had 100K and were going to purchase 1 to 2 million shares today.
Called and left a message for him this afternoon. Hopefully he calls back. Will update everyone if he does.
Anyone talk to LT lately? I just left him a message hoping to get an update. If he calls back I will let you all know.
Yeah - I think I will look into them. I know Bradlee uses them and says he has never had problems. I have a TD account also but they are more restrictive than Tradeking.
Makes zero sense to me. At .021 and 20,000 shares he saves himself $420.00 IF the company folded. Meanwhile the upside is huge.
I use Tradeking and never had a problem. This is new and very frustrating. I was hoping to pick up a few more shares before the price really started climbing. It will probably take to long to get things moved to a new account. Worth it in the long run though. I don't like Tradeking. Just have been to lazy to move.
Are you guys trading electronically? I have purchased all my shares that way in the past but my broker is telling me that CTDT lost electronic purchase priveleges in March and has not refiled paperwork. My broker said any new transactions would have to be done manually and would be subject to fee has high as $150.00.
Well - somebody is offering up 168,000 shares. You just have to pay the asking price of .055. If I had more to invest I would buy them up myself.
I am not a genius but I would think with the bid size 15x larger than the ask size and no movement downward on the ask price then this thing has to start moving up.
I have been curious as to how much of the float is owned by this message group. I know at least of a couple of you own over 2 million shares. As a group we could easily control over 10% of the float and possibly much more.
I just don't get some CTDT investors -
I am not a sophisticated investor. I don't watch the moving averages and chart analysis to make investing decisions -nor am I a highly active trader. I am a businessman. I am a business start-up specialist and frankly if you don't understand what a good start-up operation looks like or don't know how to analyze the technicals (one or the other) then you should go play bingo instead of investing and then whining about price. A company with game changing technology, private funding, very good cost controls and a disciplined approach to due diligence in it's technology prior to going out with a massive publicity campaign is very rare. This is a rare company and a rare opportunity.
There is very little downside risk unless you bought in on emotion rather than good due diligence. Good investing takes patience, research and even some luck. Even in day-trading that is true. If you can't afford to wait or have the patience to wait then sell your shares to those of us who do. But you add nothing of value to a stock board just making bold statements about how a stock will tank. Why do you think it will tank? Can you provide any concrete evidence or again are you just blurting opinion based on blind emotion?
If you want a technical analysis I am sure some here can help you. If you would like a business analysis I am sure some, myself included, will give you sound business reasons. If you want technology confirmation the company and many on the board have provided information. If you doubt the technology, the technical's and the business savvy of the company management then again I just don't understand why you would be here in the first place.
And I don't mean this to rude. I really don't understand what those of you who fit this description want. I could agree with you that the stock is going to tank and we will all lose our money but what good would that do? So again why are you here? What value can others of us on this board be to you?
you can me an my 220,000 shares to the hold onto list also.
The neat thing is the graphene is produced as a by-product of the diamond manufacturing process.
OK - I will go with chasers. No disrespect intended.
Correction "NO" doubt. I have been telling few close friends about this stock for months. I let them know last night that the window of opportunity for them is closing fast because it is getting ready to take off.
I agree. I have doubt this guys are the real deal. My biggest question is my exit strategy. This things has to potential to run a long time but I don't want my greed to blind me either :)