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Well at least I tried!! I will take the cheap ones that you sell first!
Terry
Eric,
I will take the first 199!!
Terry
Eric, You might try Vermeer! We have two of their units, and they are better built than ditch witch. They also have "bolt-ON" rock teeth for trenching, and you can get bolt on rock teeth for augers. Interesting science. Yes, special jobs bring in the $. Of course at a $1.00 per foot you too can be rich some day. Just need to make it up in volume!
Terry
Hopefully we will get the FAA news this year.It normally takes about 2 years for a patent, but that can be expedited with money and persiverance.
Terry
I should have put movey on that!! I think that it was a very good 10Q, but we are still in a waiting mode. Wait until next report. Ha! Stay patient.
Terry
Gold-nugget,
I agree. Even though there was not much change in revenue, this was very good information, and some I-6 news to boot. We shall see what we see, but it looks good!!
Terry
Form 10QSB for ADVANCE TECHNOLOGIES INC
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15-Feb-2007
Quarterly Report
ITEM 2. MANAGEMENT'S DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS OR PLAN OF OPERATIONS
The management discussions contain certain forward-looking statements and information that are based on the beliefs of management as well as assumptions made by and information currently available to management. When used in this document, the words "anticipate," "believe," "estimate," "expect," "intend," "will," "plan," "should," "seek," and similar expressions, are intended to identify forward-looking statements. Such statements reflect the current view of management regarding future events and are subject to certain risks, uncertainties and assumptions. Should one or more of these risks or uncertainties materialize, or should underlying assumptions prove incorrect, actual actions or results may vary materially from those described herein as anticipated, believed, estimated, expected or intended.
The following discussion and analysis should be read in conjunction with the company's consolidated financial statements and related footnotes for the year ended September 30, 2006. The discussion of results, causes and trends should not be construed to imply any conclusion that such results or trends will necessarily continue in the future.
Results of Operations
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
(A) Advance Technologies, Inc. has been receiving sales credit from Kollsman Inc. since 2002. The first 200 units were stipulated as "without royalties". The next 210 units are subject to royalties, but 63% of the income is applied to an "Advance Royalty" account. Advance Technologies' net royalty income will increase by virtue of the payment in full of the "advance royalty" account and improving sales.
(B) The first quarter for 2007 had an overall increase of $300 in sales over the fiscal year of 2006. The royalty sales amounted to an increase of $300 for like first quarter periods. The EVS royalties reflect sales of the EVS I product by Kollsman, and with the introduction of EVS II in 2007, we expect additional sales in the Gulfstream retrofit market and with FedEx, Kollsman's newest customer.
The payment in full of the "advanced Royalty" account will be achieved by the second quarter of 2007 based upon current and projected sales. The initial sales to the FedEx customer will most likely occur in 2007. By satisfying of the "Advance Royalty Account", net profit margins will increase by 167% for the same sales.
Advance Technologies, Inc. is pursuing a new product (Infrared Security System). The funds for this new venture will be obtained from investment sources without liability to Advance Technologies Inc. Therefore, no incurred expense or set aside provisions for future expense has been made.
MAJOR ACTIVITY
Highlights of First Quarter of Year 2007
The Enhanced Vision System project continues with on-going sales by Kollsman to Gulfstream. These sales closely track the new aircraft deliveries by Gulfstream. The retrofit market for Gulfstream continues at a slow rate, but is projected to improve once the EVS II is certified and in production.
Recreational Vehicle Systems Inc. has completed their incorporation filing, and they have stated they intend to initiate operations in 2007. RVS has encountered delays of an unknown origin. The License Agreement requires sales within a 3 year period to retain their exclusivity.
I-6 ACTIVITIES
ATI formed a subsidiary company to pursue the Infrared Security System (ISS). This wholly owned, Infrared Systems International (ISIX or I-6) has been licensed by ATI for the intellectual property pertaining to ISS. The ISS project requires a major effort that encompasses advance technology in the areas of Infrared, Image Processing, Wireless conductivity, Advanced Server Design, and Security Response Providers.
I-6 has continued discussions with several corporations. These discussions cover a broad range of topics. The key subjects are: investments, equity considerations, technical responsibilities, and project role. The market focus has been for applications to the small to medium size commercial wholesalers, manufacturers, and distributors. This market segment has been projected to exceed 1/2 million units in the first five years from start up. The launching of this effort is our focus for 2007.
I-6 has secured the cooperation of several strategy partners for the development of ISS. These corporations are experts in their core technologies: Wireless mobile transport, Specialized Wireless Server Design, Software design and coding, IR Cameras, Internet protocol, and OEM high rate production. These organizations currently participate under binding non-disclosure agreements. There are no commitments from I-6 for their involvement beyond this early technical assessment phase. When future agreements that bind I-6 to any corporation are executed, the nature of the agreement and the participating party or parties will be announced within proprietary and competition sensitive limits.
FINANCING
The company believes that no additional financing will be required, and present interim financing will meet all of our short term needs as required until royalties will cover all of our expenses. Additional funding if required for I-6 will be secured using I-6 collateral as the sole security for any such obligation. This insulates Advance Technologies Inc and its shareholders from any debt or obligation that is incurred by I-6 in pursuit of the Infrared Security Market.
GROSS PROFIT
The first Quarter of fiscal year 2007 (4th quarter cy 2006) the Company showed a modest increase in royalty income of $6,600 as compared to $6,300 in the like quarter of last year. The flat revenue was anticipated, and will remain flat until EVS II deliveries begin. The Company expects EVS II will begin deliveries in the first half of CY 2007.
SELLING, GENERAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES
In the first Quarter of fiscal year 2007 the Company's Operating Expenses declined from $18,911 same quarter last year to $6,476. This reduction in expenses occurred mostly by the elimination of the Executive Compensation Program. That item eliminated $8,250 in incurred expense.
OTHER INCOME AND EXPENSE
Other expenses showed an increase in expenses from $2,373 (2005) to $3,256
(2006) for same quarter. The increase in expense was due in most part to an increase in interest payment on the Company's short term debt. The short term debt increased through the absorbing of the costs associated with the filing of the patent for the Infrared Security System. Eighty percent of the cost has been incurred, with one additional payment to the Patent attorney of $3,000 due February of 2007.
NET PROFIT (LOSS) BEFORE PROVISIONS FOR INCOME TAXES
The Net loss for the first Quarter of 2007 was $3,132 compared to $14,984 in the like first Quarter of Fiscal 2006. The improvement was the result of the elimination of the Executive Compensation Program at the end of Fiscal year 2006.
NET SALES
The Net Sales for the first quarter of 2007 consisted of the royalties received. The royalty payment consisted of $6,600 as compared to $6,300 in the like quarter of 2005.
GROSS PROFIT
Gross profit is the same as Net Profit.
LIQUIDITY AND CAPITAL RESOURCES
The Company's primary source of revenues is from royalties from our EVS licensee Kollsman. Our Royalties reported as revenues are net royalties with the gross revenue at 2.27 times the reported royalties. The reduction to net royalties is caused by the repayment of advance royalties as specified in the Kollsman License Agreement. Based upon current sales, the advance royalties will be fully paid (currently 82% has been paid) by the second quarter of 2007. This will cause our net income to increase by a factor of 1.67 for each sale.
The other source of income comes from our Agent agreement with United Integrated Service Co. LTD, Taiwan. The collaboration with UIS has allowed our Company to be coupled into the Far East market. This Agent relationship in 2007 could add between 10-12 thousand dollars to our net earnings annually, and continue to foster an important professional relationship with UIS.
The Company has formed a wholly owned subsidiary called I-6. The Infrared Security System has been licensed to I-6. Under terms of the license I-6 has issued a promissory note to the Company for $100,000. This note when collected will defer internal expenses, the most notable being for a patent attorney to complete the ISS patent filed last November 6, 2005 and organization costs for I-6.
The Board of Directors has offered I-6 a twenty-four month buy-back option for the ISS intellectual property. The option is for $100,000,000. The option offer has been received and approved by I-6 and their Board of Directors. The option will provide protection to the shareholders against a hostile take over of ATI.
I-6 expects to receive all investment funds from ISS Associate Contractors for certain considerations, but limited to the ISS project. The Company stands to benefit through the success of I-6, but is structured to be insolated from any liability. And with the "Hostile take over provisions", the Company is adequately protected against any attempt to abridge our patent rights. Investments incurred by I-6 will be separately recorded, but will be included as part of Advance Technologies, Inc. for the immediate future.
Yes! Now we just need some news. Then volume and price will follow. Hopefully an 8k next week.
Terry
Just passing the time while we wait on some news!!
Terry
Thanks Novus. I could hardly keep a straight face.
Terry
I was in Walmart the other day buying a large bag of Purina Dog Chow, and had just entered the check out line, when a woman entered the line behind me, and asked if I had a dog? ....... Duh!
I was feeling a bit crabby that day so on impulse, I told her no, I was starting The Purina Diet again, although I probably shouldn't because I ended up in the hospital last
time, but that I'd lost 50 pounds before I awakened in an intensive care unit with tubes coming out of most of my orifices and IV's in both arms.
Her eyes about bugged out of her head went on and on with the bogus diet story and she was totally buying it.
I told her that it was an easy, inexpensive diet and that the way it works is to load your pockets or purse with Purina nuggets and simply eat one or two every time you feel hungry. The package said the food is nutritionally complete so I was going to try it again.
(I have to mention here that practically everyone in the line was by now enthralled with my story, particularly a tall guy standing behind her.)
Horrified, she asked if it had been something in the dog food that had poisoned me, and was that why I ended up in the hospital.
I said no, no! ... I'd been sitting in the street licking my butt when a car hit me.
I thought the tall guy was going to have to be carried out the door.
Terry
Would it not be nice to have a "seeing-eye" every thousand feet along the US Mexico border. All the talk shows have been saying that they need electronic surveillance along with the fence!! If the demo's opt for the cash outlay, we will see the big Ka-Boom!! Yes indeedee! Let us hope!!
Terry
Eric,
Yes, I saw his posts on RB. Will have to keep an eye on those dates. Hopefully he has heard something that we have not! Oh woah is us.
Terry
Eric, Yes, but the bid is .016. I guess that Annie and Colleen are trying to get cheap shares. Ha. We need some action, and some news would get that going. Root! Root! Rotting for some news!!
Terry
Eric,
Let us hope this year for some good moves. We saw some action today even though in the wrong direction. Still some shares traded, and that was a nice piece of goodies.
Terry
There are not enough shares left to flip. Will get interesting when the crowd moves into the building.
Terry
Let us hope that some good news comes along with the chart. That world portend a good stock move.
Terry
That was sure a quick $50. Hope you did not have a lot of travel time. Ha! Sounds like it worked well! Yes, AVTX is slow, but did we expect anything else? Hopefully that will change sometime this year.
Terry
It is best not to pay yourself a salary unless you want to increase SS benefits, and that is not a good reason. It is best to form an LLC, and only be a member, not an employee.
Terry
It is certainly getting harder to buy shares. The price has got to go up just to get anyone interested enough to sell. Even if the price starts moving, I do not think "owners" will be lineing up to sell. Once it starts moving, will be interesting. Like trying to drill hard shale with a drag bit!!
Terry
Let us hope that news is imminent!!
WOW Eric!! You will be able to buy some more AVTX! Cheers!
Terry
Hopefully we will be off to the races sometime ine the next quarter. Would not hurt my feelings.
If only drilling a 15 foot hole, and it is that hard, why not run a pilot bit first? How many holes are you drilling? Just pondering.
Terry
Kind of rich even for your blood! Ha!
Sure takes a while to buy some AVTX - even at ask.
Terry
Let us hope that is the news, and we see it sooner rather than later. That would be the start of great things to come.
GO AVTX!!!!
Terry
A continuous flight can be sectioned. We use 6 foot sections, and connect them. That is one method of drilling. We have a 22 foot (4-1/2 inch)kelly that can also pull out of the hole to rid itself of spoils with the right bit. The rig is capable of drilling a 22 foot hole at diameters of 6-16 inches. It is capable of drilling rock, but one has to be prepared to pay for necessary repairs. It is a hydralic rig that is powered by a 140 hp 6-cylinder engine. It is also capable of drilling at up to a 45 degree angle. It has a swivel tail, so that it can drill off the side of the 2-1/2 ton truck. We also use small continuous flight rigs to collect soil samples. They have small 1-1/2 inch kellys, and can drill about 12 feet. Enought drilling stuff!!
It is about time for news if the shadow was correct! Let us hope that it is some good stuff. He said that it should come out in the first quarter, but most likely in January. Take care, and good luck with your drill rig.
Terry
Eric,
That sounds good, but really make shift. Have you considered a hydralic motor? Is that what a Char-Lynn motor is? They can set up to be variable speed. Reverse is an easy matter, and quick reacting. If you use a transmission, I would recommend an Allison. They can take the torque. At least 4 speed manual with reverse with granny gear. What do you intend to use for the "drilling" part. Straight bit or continuous flight? Let me know how it comes out.
Terry
Sorry, I do not have that.
Terry
Then I suggest that you do not buy any shares!!
Terry
News will be out when we least expect it. May be sooner than we think. I got filled on 100,000 at 2. Do not ask what the deal is!
Terry
Eric, Gary does not want to attract attention to AVTX. He would prefer to have a private Company that he could deal with on his own time frame. Does not like to report progress, so when he does it is always late.
Hard loam is like drilling through rock except for the cutters that you use. Sounds like an interesting hobby. Most manufacturers of kellys have two lines. There is a high demand right now, so stock material is harder to come by. It is interesting that in some cases custom made is also cheaper than stock material.
Hopefully Gary will get the ball rolling sometime this year. We are dealing on his time which is a lot like GE time.
Terry
Thank goodness not a big loss. Needed to do some major work on it anyway. Did you find your kelly? What are you drilling through? Rock?
Terry
Rob, All that the 10K told us was that it is going to be a while. To answer your other question:
"So they promise to pay themselves $100K, but then approve buying back technology, from themselves again for $100 millions? Rob asks scratching head, "exactly how is this good for me again?"
This is a poison pill that prevents a hostile takeover. Right smart one if I do say so. All it does is protect your investment, and "potential" stock improvement from dastartly persons!!!
Terry
Yes, It is pricey especially for a small Company. Some products are not worth this price (the products that would cost too much to reverse engineer); but I think that this product is worth the expense.
Terry
Form 10KSB for ADVANCE TECHNOLOGIES INC
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16-Jan-2007
Annual Report
MANAGEMENT'S DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS OR PLAN OF OPERATIONS
The management discussions contain certain forward-looking statements and information that are based on the beliefs of management as well as assumptions made by and information currently available to management. When used in this document, the words "anticipate," "believe," "estimate," "expect," "intend," "will," "plan," "should," "seek," and similar expressions, are intended to identify forward-looking statements. Such statements reflect the current view of management regarding future events and are subject to certain risks, uncertainties and assumptions. Should one or more of these risks or uncertainties materialize, or should underlying assumptions prove incorrect, actual actions or results may vary materially from those described herein as anticipated, believed, estimated, expected or intended.
The following discussion and analysis should be read in conjunction with the company's consolidated financial statements and related footnotes for the year ended September 30, 2006. The discussion of results, causes and trends should not be construed to imply any conclusion that such results or trends will necessarily continue in the future.
Results of Operations
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
(A) Advance Technologies, Inc. has been receiving sales credit from Kollsman Inc. since 2002. The first 200 units were stipulated as "without royalties". The next 210 units are subject to royalties, but 63% of the income is applied to an "Advance Royalty" account. Advance Technologies net royalty income will increase by virtue of the payment in full of the "advance royalty" account and improving sales.
(B) The fiscal year for 2006 had an overall increase of 73% in sales over the fiscal year of 2005. The royalty sales amounted to an increase of +61% for like fiscal year periods. The EVS royalties reflect sales of the EVS I product by Kollsman, with the introduction of EVS II in 2007, we expect additional sales in the Gulfstream retrofit market and with FedEx, Kollsman's newest customer.
The payment in full of the "advanced Royalty" account will be achieved by the second quarter of 2007 based upon current and projected sales. The initial sales to the FedEx customer will most likely occur in 2007. By satisfying of the "Advance Royalty Account", net profit margins will increase by 167% for the same sales.
Advance Technologies, Inc. provided consultation and export sales to United Integrated Services Inc., a Taiwan Corporation in 2006. The net income was $6,215. UIS has indicated their desire to purchase an additional 100 Cameras in 2007. UIS has asked Advance Technologies to apply for an export license for these future sales. A contract with UIS is in negotiations.
Advance Technologies, Inc. is pursuing a new product (Infrared Security System). The funds for this new venture will be obtained from investment sources without liability to Advance Technologies Inc. Therefore, no incurred expense or set aside provisions for future expense has been made.
(c) There are no off-balance sheet arrangements.
MAJOR ACTIVITY
Highlights of Fiscal Year 2006
The Enhanced Vision System project continues with on going sales by Kollsman to Gulfstream. These sales closely track the new aircraft deliveries by Gulfstream. The retrofit market for Gulfstream continues at a slow rate, but is projected to improve once the EVS II is certified and in production.
The introduction of EVS II for FedEx has slipped schedule, with certification now anticipated in the first quarter of FY 2007. When EVS II is placed in production for FedEx it is expected that the Gulfstream retro-fit program for older models of their G series aircraft, which will use the new EVS II will increase.
Recreational Vehicle Systems Inc. has completed their incorporation filing, and they have stated they intend to initiate operations in 2007. RVS has encountered delays of an unknown origin. The License Agreement requires sales within a 3 year period to retain their exclusivity.
I-6 ACTIVITIES
ATI formed a subsidiary company to pursue the Infrared Security System (ISS) opportunity 2nd quarter of 2006. This wholly owned, Infrared Systems International (ISIX or I-6) has been licensed by ATI for the intellectual property pertaining to ISS. The ISS project requires a major effort that encompasses advance technology in the areas of Infrared, Image Processing, Wireless conductivity, Advanced Server Design, and Security Response Providers.
I-6 has been engaged in discussions with several corporations. These discussions cover a broad range of topics. The key subjects are: investments, equity considerations, technical responsibilities, and project role. The market focus has been for applications to the small to medium size commercial wholesalers, manufacturers, and distributors. This market segment has been projected to exceed 1/2 million units in the first five years from start up. The launching of an effort of this magnitude will be our focus for 2007.
I-6 has secured the cooperation of several strategy partners for the development of ISS. These corporations are experts in their core technologies: Wireless mobile transport, Specialized Wireless Server Design, Software design and coding, IR Cameras, Internet protocol, and OEM high rate production. These organizations currently participate under binding non-disclosure agreements. There are no commitments from I-6 for their involvement beyond this early technical assessment phase. When future agreements that bind I-6 to any corporation are executed, the nature of the agreement and the participating party or parties will be announced within proprietary and competition sensitive limits.
(c) There are no off-balance sheet arrangements.
ATI continues to utilize the services of an SEC Attorney on retainer, and contract for bookkeeping services on a time and material basis. This has substantially added to our cost of ensuring that we are and remain fully complaint to all SEC regulations.
YEAR ENDED SEPTEMBER 30, 2006 COMPARED WITH THE PRIOR YEAR ENDED SEPTEMBER 30,
2005.
NET SALES
Net sales for the company were approximately $33,815 for the 12 month period ending on September 30, 2006 as compared to approximately $19,553 for the same period a year earlier. Consulting fees increased from $2,453 to $6,215 for the same 12 month periods of time. The sales rate for EVS continues to increase at a modest rate.
GROSS PROFIT
GROSS PROFIT was the same as NET PROFIT since royalty income and consulting fees have NO COST OF GOODS, the gross and net profits are the same.
SELLING, GENERAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES
Operating expense for the twelve month period ending September 30, 2006 was $84,212 as compared to $57,961 for the same twelve month period ending September 30, 2005. The increase in operating cost can be attributed to increased costs associated with Sarbanes-Oxley (approximately $7,618) and $6,000 per quarter for the President/CEO and $2,000 per quarter for the Board of Directors (two members plus the President).
OTHER INCOME AND EXPENSE
For the twelve month period this year (2006) the expense was $11,879 versus $8,764 last year in 2005. The increase in expense was for interest on loans and account payables.
NET PROFIT (LOSS) BEFORE PROVISIONS FOR INCOME TAXES
The net loss for the twelve month period ending September 30, 2006 was $66,276 versus $47,172 for the same period in 2005. The largest factor in the increased loss results from the inclusion of the President and BOD compensation $24,479 for the year. The compensation is in the form of preferred shares.
SELLING, GENERAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES
The operating expense for the twelve month period ending September 30, 2006 was $84,212 versus $57,961 in the same period of 2005. The principle cause of the increase in operating cost is the introduction of the Compensation Plan in fall of 2005 for the President & Board of Directors. The plan provides the equivalent of $8,000 per quarter of Preferred Shares. The compensation plan has been terminated as of September 30, 2006. Alternative ways to provide fair compensation will be investigated.
OTHER INCOME AND EXPENSE
For the twelve month period ending September 30, 2006 the interest expense was $ 11,879 versus $ 8,764 for the like period in 2005.
NET PROFIT (LOSS) BEFORE PROVISON FOR INCOME TAXES
The net loss for the twelve month period ending September 30, 2006 was $62,276 versus $47,172 for the like period in 2005. The President and Board of Directors compensation accounted for $24,479 of expense for 12 months, compared to $0 in 2005, prior to the introduction of the plan.
LIQUIDITY AND CAPITAL RESOURCES
The company's primary source of revenues is from royalties from our EVS licensee Kollsman. Our Royalties reported as revenues are net royalties with the gross revenue at 2.27 times the reported royalties. The reduction to net royalties is caused by the repayment of advance royalties as specified in the Kollsman License Agreement. Based upon current sales, the advance royalties will be fully paid (currently 71% has been paid) by the second quarter of 2007. This will cause our net income to increase by a factor of 1.67 for each sale.
The other source of income comes from our Agent agreement with United Integrated Service Co. LTD, Taiwan. The collaboration with UIS has allowed our company to be coupled into the Far East market. This Agent relationship in 2007 will add between 10-12 thousand dollars to our net earnings annually, and continue to foster an important professional relationship with UIS.
The company has formed a wholly owned subsidiary called I-6. The Infrared Security System has been licensed to I-6. Under terms of the license I-6 has issued a promissory note to the company for $100,000. This note when collected will defer internal expenses, the most notable being for a patent attorney to complete the ISS patent filed last November 6, 2005 and organization costs for I-6.
The Board of Directors has offered I-6 a twenty-four month buy-back option for the ISS intellectual property. The option is for $100,000,000. The option offer has been received and approved by I-6 and its Board of Directors. The option will provide protection to the shareholders against a hostile take over of ATI.
The company income has not been sufficient for meeting our expenses; as a result our short term debt has increased. The expenditure with the Patent Attorney for ISS has been the largest cost. The fee, $12,000 plus filing and miscellaneous expenses has been accrued, with 50% paid before submittal of the patent, and the balance due in 2007. The fee scheduling was provided by the Patent Attorney to fit our budget allocations.
I-6 expects to receive all investment funds from ISS Associate Contractors for certain considerations, but limited to the ISS project. The company stands to benefit through the success of I-6, but is structured to be insulated from any liability. And with the "Hostile take over provisions", the company is adequately protected against any attempt to abridge our patent rights. Investments incurred by I-6 will be separately recorded, but will be included as part of Advance Technologies Inc. for the immediate future.
OPERATIONS
The Company operated at a substantial loss over the last twelve months ($62,276). This loss is directly attributed to the Executive compensation package of $24,479. Since the compensation is in the form of preferred shares, the impact on cash flow and cash reserves is minimized. Since the preferred shares do not enter the market "float" and the shares represent less than 0.7% of the combined preferred and common share base, the compensation package has minimum impact on the Company.
The Sarbanes-Oxley Act has added substantially to our direct cost. We estimate that our cost of meeting the new standards is between 12-15 thousand dollars, and is increasing on a yearly basis.
INVESTING
The Company's only investment during this period was for the ISS patent, provisional in 2005, and full patent in 2006 & 2007. The fiscal expenditure in 2006 was $16,753, and an accrued expenditure of an additional $6,000 for 2007.
FINANCING
The company believes that no additional financing will be required, and present interim financing will meet all of our short term needs as required until royalties will cover all of our expenses. Additional funding if required for I-6 will be secured using I-6 collateral as the sole security for any such obligation. This insulates Advance Technologies Inc and their shareholders from any debt or obligation that is incurred by I-6 in pursuit of the Infrared Security Market.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to one and all!
Terry
You forgot that I made myself an official member of the "Dull Men's Club".
Terry
It just continues to be more interesting. I hope it stays where it is at until the new year. I do not think that the price can go down, but it can certainly go up!!
Terry
No. I bought more.
Terry
Do not be disgruntled Rob. Think of it only as a 4 1/2 percent increase in pps. If you remain desgruntled, you can always join Irony's club.
Terry