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I think now SBRH will go to a shell play again. The company is total scam. if it bounces, it's exit point you may have to find somewhere. Amazing after two months of the new company, it goes back to a shell play.
SBRH SCAM EXPOSED - part-2
I called yesteday Chong Lee, who is the signer of Amendment of filing to increase A/S to 2B in Florida Secretary
of State, Corporation. The filing is found here;
http://ccfcorp.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/63422328.pdf
When I called, he didn't say 'Hi, Chong Lee' or any greeting, sounds as he wants to know who the caller is first.
Why? Anyway, I explained I have a couple questions regarding the stock SBRH and the amendment. After that, the
call receiver claims his name is Mathew and Chong Lee is away for a moment. Then I thought the phone number is
some sort of office phone number or house phone number. Then I hung up asking Mathew to tell Chong Lee to call me
back by 10AM today. I didn't receive a call. So I called again today, it goes directly voice message and voice
message greeting says 'Chong Lee'. Then, I noticed the number I called is cell phone, not land line or any shared
phone with Mathew. Here is my question. Why the person who claims his name is 'Mathew' happened to pick up Chong
Lee's cell phone? Cell Phone is mostly carrried by the owner. If Mathew has Chong Lee's cell phone, what's the
relationship between the two? Are they couple happened to live in a house, then Mathew picked up Chong Lee's
incoming call? Mathew gotta be very close to Chong Lee because he just picks up Chong Lee's incoming calls right
away without Chong Lee's permissions when Chong Lee left his cell phone to him. The other thing I noticed is, the
voice greeting in Chong Lee's cell phone has the exactly same voice and tone as Mathew.
Here I start my guess Chong Lee=Mathew.
Now, let's look at the filing in the above link.
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/r4OPglYFQF3Lgv07qeud4Q22gT1jL7MZxPG1A2D2xS0?feat=directlink
The top part divided by the blue line is in the 2nd page of the amendment, written by Chong Lee.
The below part divided is the 3rd page where Sang Gil Oh signed.
Notice the hand writting of the letters are similar. Legally, Sang Gil Oh should print his name and sign. OK, I
know what you want to say. In many cases, CEO and busy man can be just shown the paper to sign his signature after
his secretary or any person who helps him/her print the CEO's name. I understand. Let's assume, Chong Lee or any
person who prepared the amendment, then Sang Gil Oh signed at the end. Notice the style of writing in both Sang
Gil Oh's signature and other hand writings in the amendment, same color, same thickness, same tone. It's not hard
to find the both signature and other handwrittings are written by the same pen. Looking at this, I can only guess
following cases;
1. Chong Lee(since the name appears on this as main contact regarding the amendment, I assume he wrote the
amendment, or can be any other person) parepred the amendment writing all the letters except Sang Gil Oh's
signature. Then Sang Gil Oh signed. In this case, since they used the same pen, I can guess they used the same
pen, happened to face to face each other. So, Chong Lee must know Sang Gil Oh very well. Chong Lee is currently
living in Toronto, Canada. Sang Gil Oh lives in South Korea. So, did Chong Lee fly to South Korea to sign this or
Sang Gil Oh fly to Canada?
2. How about this, Chong Lee thought 'what the hack, I'm gonna just sign the damn thing as him'. .....could be.
It's not a good idea, but many does. But Chong Lee is in serious legal situation in this case, making up CEO's
signature.
Either way, Chong Lee(the name we all investors know) or Mathew(The person who answers Chong Lee's cell phone with
unlimited authority) or Dr. Sang Gil Oh(CEO we all know, but doesn't exist anywhere in the internet for both Korea
and USA for his recognition in solar technology, but happened to have doctor degree) should be in the center of
this company's stock operation. And there's a person who picks up the phone 416-709-6170 in Canada. I know lots of
scam stocks are operated form Canada because when they get into legal situation, there should be many barriers
protecting them to escape. But hey, this guy is the main buddy should be digged to find about the company and
chase 'Sang Gil Oh'.
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About Sang Gil Oh and Nam Byung Hwa.
Go to this site, http://whois.domaintools.com/vaenza.com
Administrative, Technical, Billing Contact:
Nam Byung Hwa
Yatap-dong, Bundang-gu, Seongnam-si, Gyeonggi-do
(Tel) 031-703-6545 (fax)
So, I searched Nam Byung Hwa in Korean website. It turns out that Nam Byung Haw is 80 years old female. Here is
the church website where her picture is. The old female in the center is Nam Byung Hwa.
http://dongmoonch.or.kr/main/sub.html?board_id=board10&Mode=A_View&num=1672
Nam Byung Hwa
597 Yatap-3 dong APT# 302, Bundang-gu, Seongnam-si, Gyeonggi-do, South Korea
031-703-6545
Notice the phone number is the same as contact of Vaenza.com and the name is printed in Korean, but it says Nam
Byung Hwa and the church is in Seongnam-si, Gyeonggi-do. I called Nam Byung Haw and she picked the phone. Before I
called, I guessed this. Someone who's younger person who knows about website and close to Nam Byung Hwa
registerred the website Vaenza.com with gabia.com hosting service. And since her age is 80's, and uses Nam Byung
Hwa's citizen number freely, I assume, the person who registerred as Nam Byung Hwa might be her close relative or
Son or Daughter.
So I explained her about website registration and others, of course, she doesn't understand what I say. So, I told
her, her son or daughter did some business under her name, needs to be corrected. She gave me his son name and
phone number.
"Sang Gil Oh" 010-6329-8114
Didn't you see any similar number somewhere??? here, look at the text at bottom next to copyright,
http://www.vaenza.com 011-82 106369 8114. Take out first 0, then replace 2 with 6, it becomes his real phone
number.
And here too,
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Sebastian-River-Holdings-Acquired-by-Vaenza-Inc-1273862.htm
*Before I go further, all the addresses in filings in financial and Florida Secretary, Corporation for Sang Gil Oh
are missing the suite number and exact address, They omitted details of address, such as replacing street number
with korean zip codes.... I think this is how they hide exact addresses
Why did he give this fake phone number in pr? let's ask calling Sang Gil Oh.
I called Sang Gil Oh, he picks up the phone. He sounds very young around 30's or 40's. From now, I'm going to just
wrote the scripts of our conversation. I'll name the phone receiver as 'X'
me: Hi, Mr. Sang Gil Oh?
X: Who's this?
me: Sang Gil Oh, I want to ask some questions about Vaenza.com website you registerred under your mother's name.
X: I'm not Sang Gil Oh.
me: I just called your mother and she gave me your phone number and name. Why are you saying you're not Sang Gil
Oh.
X: I said I'm not Sang Gil Oh.
me: YOu are Sang Gil Oh. If you keep denying, I'll talk to my lawyer regarding this matter.
X: I'm not Sang Gil Oh. Call me later afternoon, then I'll tell you. (what the heck is he saying????)
This is the end of my phone call to Sang Gil Oh.
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Email exchange with Sang Gil Oh, okpanda@hanmail.net
*I'm going to translate my emails to English exchanged with Sang Gil Oh as best as I can.
From me;
Hello, I'm one of investors of SBRH, have a few questions.
Currently, Vaenza co.ltd, SBRH is listed in US otc/pink market, is it true?
1. Vaenza co.ltd company address is occupied by Jangwon Rent Car. What's happening here?
1F Geumwon Bldg.
16-40 Nonhyeon-Dong
Gangnam-gu
Seoul 135-101
Korea, Republic Of
2. Please provide profiles and recognitions of Sang Gil Oh in solar technology, and his history of schools,
Thesis papers. I want to see any proof of him because I couldn't find any information regarding him in both Korea
and US online.
From Sang Gil Oh;
Thank you for the email.
I'll give answers to the questions.
Sincerely,
Sang Gil Oh.
(This was a simple email asking two questions should be very easy to answer. But he said, he would give me answers
later. Why taking another time to answer the simple questions? Did he need more time to make up the best answers?.
One day later, 1 hour after I called him after I found his real phone number from his mother, Nam Byung Haw, I
replied to me back with the following answer)
From Sang Gil Oh;
Mr. Sungpill Han, I read your email.
1. Currently, we're moving/expanding our office. The new office location will be posted in our website.
2. Any further question, please call PR Phone, will be answerred.
Tel: 1-310-909-7988
(I thought moving/expanding office is BS. Soon when I call Jangwon Rent Car or building manager, it will be clear.
And the investor guy is even deleting his own posts in investorshub.com stock forum, doesn't seem to know much
about the scam company he's dealing with. I'm going to stop doing this worthless research on this stock, think not
worth to do any more. )
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SBRH Investors, I have not been so sure that one stock can be scam this much. Also, the investor guy should reveal
where he got shares compensated from and by who, he should be honest in answering investors' questions, should be
active on finding the truth, otherwise, he's hiding the possible scammers behind this stock stealing wealth from
hard working people in unfair game protected by name of investment.
I hope all investors of SBRH to be active pretecting their wealth, as whole, US'
GLTA
when scam is exposed, it runs. if you lost money with pink, trade it backward. it might give you more chance to win.
I'm trying to loadup 3's now..I think it can run up
Bid supports coming in 3 cents. I haven't seen this many MMs trying to buy at 3's...... could be a good safe bet. I'll try to catch 3's
buying on the way down. i have small positions at 5's, not buying more until it shows strength on 6's, i almost bought another 1.5M on 6's when I saw 7M on 6's today...
OBV shows almost this is selling spree.... wow. I'll try 3's or 2's
7M buy again on 0.0006.
Trade with no brain, buy more when it looks like going down .LOL
hit 4's, but backed up bid/ask form 4/6 to 5/6 with more buys at 5's. I really think someone is supporting 5's like a batman. He's buying everything here..
If Snag Gil Oh is a real man, but if they're doing business in US market, shouldn't they have translators already or the Mr. Oh already speaks english, he's claimed to have Doctor degree.
the price of stock is attractive cause' a/s is just 2B even though I'm 100% sure this is company doesn't exist. I saw once, KKUR, total scam, ran from 0.0003 to 0.0011 when everyone knows it's scam.
99% is scam in pinkie world, so... I should not ignore this stock... making sense to me..
I just set volume alert on this stock, maybe I have to buy high, or low if it goes down, but may just follow volume.
I speak Korean fluently. Use me if you want.
Let me know how to short penny stock with triple zero in US MARKET.
Besides, I found SBRH on support having potential to go up. that's why I did hours of research to verify the company is real. But it turned out negative. I don't think I'm bashing, but just expressing my opinion on the top of what I found.
Tell me what you found about this company. I found something and posted here.
Response to the investor guy saying my photos are fake.
the address is correct and the image of the building is correct. I eve had my friend to go to the site and talked to the guy in Jangwon Rent car who's occupying the address.
I wonder if the investor guy even contacted the company and verified the address if it is true.
Here is the screenshot of company registration from Korean National Taxation. I don't know if Korean fonts will show on your screen, but here what the words mean.
??? means closed business.
??? means date closed 12/31/2009
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/v49B-QBWkc6U0Y31GHBMpw22gT1jL7MZxPG1A2D2xS0?feat=directlink
Also, for street view, go to local.daum.net then type '??? ??? ??? 16-40' (16-40 Nonhyeon-Dong Gangnam-gu Seoul 135-101 ")
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/gHbAXjLPTbSsulXyc36YVQ22gT1jL7MZxPG1A2D2xS0?feat=directlink
The word in the wood tag sign in the image clearly says 'Geumwon Bldg.' on that address. And the other sign says 'Jangwon Rent Car' in 1F. I talked to the building manager, she said there only two stores in the first floor. It's very small building in regidency area. Also, I'm from South Korea, know the area. Non Hyun Don is almost residency area with bunch of apartments and houses, not for like high tech or venture company town.
it's not me to prove i'm wrong because I just posted the images taken from the address in vaenza.com. The investor guy and Sang Gil Oh come out and speak and show profiles and recognition of Sang Gil Oh in Solar technology, will clear all the doubts. It's their responsibility since they haven't disclosed anything about the man and the company and the product.
The phone number to Sang Gil Oh, Phone 011-82 0708638 2588 doesn't work. Nobody picks up. Then I called Chong Lee, his name was in Amendment in Floria Secretary of State, Corporations, 416-709-6170. When I called, I didn't say any, then the person picked up the phone, 'Mathew' doesn't say anything either for 5 seconds. And when he picks up a call, he doesn't say 'This is Chong Lee' or 'Hi' nothing. I felt the person being careful for something. Then I introduced myself and said I want to speak to Chong Lee and the number is beloning to him, asked who he is picked up the call. He said he's not Chong Lee, away from the phone, would forward any message if I leave. I asked him to give me a call back by today 10AM.
Believe me, there's no Vaenza Co.Ltd. The company registration number is a different corporation and was closed in last year in Korea. I can't find any information about the company nor Sang Gil Oh. I even talked to some of my friends of friends who have been in Solar Technology development, neither of them has heard of Vaenza or Sang Gil Oh.
The people who run this scam seems the same people who ran the company, Sebastian River Holdings.
Go back to #1, #2 and see who they are. They just switch CEO and non existing company, then sell stocks after r/s.
Sang Gil Oh, Lisa Lee, Insuk Lee, Chong Lee don't exist. The people behind this scam have been the same people for all life of this stock.
I hope my DD and insight helpful. Good luck to all, hope you all get out with some bounce, this is the last posting in this board.
CONTINUED-SBRH SCAM EXPOSED.
Florida Secretary of State, Corporation. Type 'Sebastian River Holdings'to search.
http://ccfcorp.dos.state.fl.us/corinam.html
Name: Sebastian River Holdings.
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Amendment to increase A/S to 2B
Signer: Chong Lee
http://ccfcorp.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/63422328.pdf
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No signature of Sang Gil Oh(assume this person is fake)
http://ccfcorp.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/58041338.pdf
http://ccfcorp.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/65428559.pdf
Only signature of Sang Gil Oh exists in unaudited financial(one page). Note: Pinksheets and OTCBB doesn't verify signer, but Florida Secratary of State's documents have legal power to keep the documents as evidence for any.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/otciq/ajax/showFinancialReportById.pdf?id=34013
Also it shows the Company Registration number in Korean National Taxation, was found to be 'closed'.
BEST OF BEST:
No product evidence, no photo, no documentation of their beta version so called 'SOLutions'. Wonder they can develop any from the rent car office in Non Hyun Dong.
I'm never sure this much that this stock is scam than any other. I'm literally shocked by you guys who already bought this to hold thinking as investment. I wish it may bounce someday for you to get out.
SBRH Scam exposed. Read what I found.
When I received email alert on this stock, I first looked at chart, liked it hanging on the support 0.0004. And the share structure is still good, though they increased to 2B. They still have half to dilute, but if they stop diluting, it could have a chance to bounce here, no matter it's scam stock or not. But if the stock is scam, betting the company would stop diluting at some point would be risky because they're gonna dilute non-stop before people do more research on the stock. Investors usually do intensive research when stock goes down ater they got in. It's human nature. OK.
Now, I spent a few hours doing research on this stock.
1. Vaenza's address is currently occupied with Jangwon Rent Car. I called the building management, there's no company name Vaenza or any company doing business for R&D for solar solution. I called Jangwon Rent Car, they have no idea what I'm talking about, of course. Or maybe these guys in JangWon Rent Car may be connected to a person who knows the detail of this 'might-be-scam'.
1F Geumwon Bldg.
16-40 Nonhyeon-Dong
Gangnam-gu
Seoul 135-101
Korea, Republic Of
Street view of the address:
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/gHbAXjLPTbSsulXyc36YVQ22gT1jL7MZxPG1A2D2xS0?feat=directlink
This is Residency area in Non Hyun Dong mostly. It's street view from daum.net for south korea. Around the building, it's all houses and apartments. I saw a bunch kids sucking icescream inside the entry of this building on the other side.
2. About phone number and email address.
http://www.vaenza.com/contact/index.htm
Phone number 011-82 0708638 2588 is internet phone. In korea, many people have Internet phones usually cell phone. it starts with 070. I called this number, no pickup.
Email address okpanda@hanmail.net is listed under Dr. Sang gil Oh contact. Here's funny thing. Go to Whois page here, http://whois.domaintools.com/vaenza.com
Look who has okpanda@hanmail.net. The site administrative contact is Nam Byung Hwa, and his email address is it. And he lives in Kyung-gi-do, not Seoul. It might be that Nam Byung Hwa registered the website on behalf of Sang Gil Oh, using Oh's email address. It could be.
But I also think, Nam Byung Haw's email address is okpanda@hanmail.net and his internet phone number is 011-82 0708638 2588. Nam's phone number is 031-703-6545 in whois. So, Nam=Oh???
http://whois.domaintools.com/vaenza.com
Registrant : Nam Byung Hwa
Yatap-dong, Bundang-gu, Seongnam-si, Gyeonggi-do
(463839)
Domain Name: VAENZA.COM
Registrar: Gabia,Inc. (GABIA.COM)
Administrative, Technical, Billing Contact:
Nam Byung Hwa
Yatap-dong, Bundang-gu, Seongnam-si, Gyeonggi-do
(Tel) 031-703-6545 (fax)
Record created on september 12, 2009
Record expires on 2010-09-12
Record last updated on 2009-09-12
Domain servers in listed order:
ns.gabia.co.kr
ns1.gabia.co.kr
3. Regaring CEO Dr. Sang Gil Oh, there's no any information regarding this person. All results from search engine returned are associated with the stock SBRH. He must be a well known scientist with Doctor degree in solar technology field. None of searching both Korean & USA Google returns any regarding this person. The signer of filings in Florida Secretary of States, Corporation miss signature of Sang Gil Oh's. But there's a person whose signature is in the amendment to increase A/S to 2B, named 'Chong Lee'. Why is there no information about Dr. Sang Gil Oh, but only Chone Lee? I personally called Chone Lee and verified the person actually exists, of course, because there's signature and hand writing of him, but NONE of Sang gil Oh's. Is this person created?
4. Company Registration number 107-86-86318 returns, the business is closed in 2009, - Korean National Taxation.
http://nts.go.kr/cal/cal_check_02_01.asp
"???? ??????? 107-86-86318 ? 2010? 7? 24? ?? ???(???? : ????? ?????,????:2009?12?31?)(?)? ?? ????."
translated to English:
"Business Registration Number 107-86-86318 Please see the July 24, 2010 Current pyeeopja (tax types: value-added tax general it should, out of business Date: 2009"
*I emailed to IR, Chong Lee, Nam Byung Hwa, none of them replied to above questions. I called Chong Lee, someone picked up a call saying his name is Mathew and says Chong Lee is not there but will forward the message to him.
This is what I guess. The scammer of this stock doesn't know well about South Korea, so used any address of building in Non Hyung Dong, not knowing what it is. But it was very easy to find it. The person who answered a call to Chong Lee from me, named 'Mathew', should know all about this scam, I think he's the guy investors of this stock to talk to.
ddfordenero, listen carefully.
*STOP FILLING MY PRIVATE INBOX*
I don't like to read any more insulting emails coming to my inbox. If I see your message again, I'm going to tell your mama
nobody buying, only dumping slowly... making new low every week. LOL. Here it is, pos of the year.
I also think some kind of manually driven pps movement.
Hope they lock 5's as support on the way they're diluting. It's new company, new team, breaking new low is shame to them. Gotta be something better than the former scam company with e-cig joke.
idk why they can't bring down to 3's 4's. it's very unpredictable... so bouncing here when looks like it goes down more???
last time it went up 150% when it was about to go down more to hit 4's.
trading without my brain.
They never answered my questions in email. They only respond to selected share holders having positive outlook to the company. If I were such a confident CEO with my company and have lots of contract papers hanging on my desk, I would not be afraid to answer any unfavorable questions.
guys, you have to stick to one fact to win with this stock.
Game changed. No more scam. new management, new real business with solid client basis.
Now stock price was beaten with fundamental of former company, shorts, and MMs who know the A/S increase.
stock price bottoming with whole new game.
Ride the tide, make lots of money with this stock.
I'm loading up on every tick down.
took more 5's, loading up 1.5M each tick down..... i'm 1000% sure it will bounce again. !!! :)
big sell on 5's got filled partial... lowered my bid to 4's
I think shorts don't give up, before it broke out from 5's to 15', they were trying to bring down to 2's or 3's. And I painted a lot over 6's and 7's whenever it hits 5's. Now they're trying to start again. I don't know what makes them sure to short this lower, but that's what's happening. Maybe they think it will go down more with dilution from increased a/s
My stupidity. I thought I set buy on 6's, but was 5's, I'm wondering if I missed the bottom entry point today..... damn fxxx
hey buddy, you're sending too much private messages to me. Don't love me too much.
I assume someone likes to load up deadly at bottom after shorting.
It can go down to 3's. But everyone knows it will bounce again.
Roll the dice!!!
come on baby, hit me 6's!!!
Still no answer to these questions. Mr. Robert Ritondo and Mr. Alain Roy, if my questions were too much getting to your nerves, I can write more in polite way, but don't think the questions will be changed more polite cause' that's exactly what you have to answer. Tell us what power Newron Sport has beyond as a distributor. According to your PRs, Newron Sport does everything, development, technology, patent, licensing, dealing with manufacturers. What else left for Newron Design to do?
You guys are not losing me, i'm just flipping this to make my profits in maximum. See you all when I find another nice entry point soon.
Flip to the hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
woohoo~~~~~~~
120% is too much with this small volume. I can give only 30 MACD. It's turning down. Tomorrow if it doesn't go down.. It may stays here not going higher... Needs to bring up more volume.
See ya
like to get in again. Hope I'm flipping in the right direction....
sorry. I'm out. with total 190% flipping. If it goes up, I don't mind watching it.
GLTA
anybody bought MMUH this morning, It was coincidence that someone mentioned this.. I flipped today made 80% again... wow..
I read the whole filings from SLPO for 3 years. You will know once you read it.
Forgot to post here... I did research more on this company, looks like the management is total scam. The woman playing this for years are tied with LMCO, renting the part of LMCO's office and keeps changing her business to pump and dump. She has high school diploma and the current CEO is BA and has been web designer, There's no information about their scientists who develop battery. I'm still in, looking for a small bounce and get out asap.
We should know 15 hit was not just coincidence. it's going higher pretty soon
Let's make another 100% today!!!!