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I referred to it as retail float (not sure if its a term), anyway if partners own 1.5B, the rest is owned by posters (i.e. Mastercraft 90M, Pnew 85M, Cutting 75M, Oldteck 100M, ect, ect).
The last PR's eventual share ownership is interpreted differently by some of us (Shiz's count is probably correct).
To me the bottom line is if new partners bring more to the table than 1B X .015, its all roses.
IMO, Share price should be about 6 cents before partners, and with no multiple factored in (based on assets).
We can all relax and know the next PR will explain share structure in detail and all our questions will be answered.LOL
BTW, Oldteck has the most because he has a calculator.
Not meaning to nitpik but I thought partners would get about 333M and buy 666M.
What you are saying is much better, that would put the retail float at 1B, which is not far above the 815M we were led to believe.
When I see numbers on my board I want to make sure they are correct!! (that was my best Shiz impression)LOL
Read this fast it will not be here long.
"The new partners will get 750 million shares from pbls and buy another 750 or so from the open market"
Are you sure this is correct?
Didn't a poster say cam was going up as part of a overall security system at pit. Not part of PA's thinking to begin with, but security makes since.
Even Rip Van Winkle couldn't sleep with that darn printing press going at PBLS.
huh???
Not according to the Gregorian calender
Forget the business for a minute, I had a crisis today!
Setup an emergency appointment with my psychologist today because I was worried sick about the lack of bashers on this board.
He said “From what you have been telling me all these months, SHORTIE may have someone on the inside, possibly writing the PR’s”.
I feel better now, kinda.
These weekend rates are killing me!
The only reason the Komex deal was PR'ed was to
justify O/S and A/S increase.
If no deal was PR'ed, and you "DD Masters" discovered
share increase, Paul would be buried so far
back in the bayou, no one could have found him.
IMO
This may have been discussed before, if so I apologize.
Have there been any unusual occurrences in which Nicosan was beneficial as far as unintended purposes?
It seems many medicines now are used for non approved applications and conditions.
This question is for the posters that speak with Alex.
Assuming profitability at some point, does he want to do a share buyback or use capital to build business?
Or is neither mentioned?
If these are the shares going to the partners in return for contracts or putting companies under PBLS umbrella, it might not be all bad.
I do not believe many of these shares are going into market.
When in doubt, SPIN IT POSITIVE!!
And you wonder why Paul has such contempt
for shareholders!!
Paul's Mom
Somebody was good enough to paint the close.
.014
Please don't suggest a PR!!
I can see it now;
I would like to thank our patient shareholders and I am happy to announce dividend checks on the 6% preferred will be mailed SOON.
Paul
LOL, never heard the term "wordsmith" before.
Don't know if I would bet, but I sure am counting on it.
Will be nice to finally assign a value to the company.
I am not sure of the financial health at this point.
At least we will at last be able to see Q over Q results going forward. That to me is the important significance of new Pinksheet requirements.
I plan on holding long-term if business plan is working.
Another thing is IR needs to return phone calls. I know you read this board Chris, so step up to the plate.
Ren,
Could you also ask T/A how often count is updated by PBLS?
I thought it was everyday, now I am not so sure.
TIA
At this point I would take 1/2 cent.
Called the T/A last week, they are kind of gagged, the lady said if someone from ATWEC called and okayed it, she could release the numbers to me.
Have not done it yet.
As the old saying goes
"IF IT WAS EASY, EVERYBODY WOULD BE RICH"
Speaking of IR, I called Mike Cunniff yesterday and asked if he was still with PBLS's IR team. He said "YES".
I asked a couple of questions to which he had no idea how to answer. Finally I asked if he could tell me anything that would calm a shareholders fears. He said "NO, THEY DO NOT TELL ME ANYTHING".
With such a high O/S, what kind of numbers do we need to see to justify a 13M market cap?
I use 13M because that would put us at 1 cent.
You are exactly right, there is no mention of dividend payment time frame. I guess someone mentioned it on this board and everybody believed it. Still bothers me Ron told a poster that checks would be sent out last Monday.
Do you think these guys are so busy they can't be bothered with details, or do they just not care about shareholder concerns?
GM,
I did not see John Hayden on chart.
Who is he and what division is he with?
TIA
Regarding the narrow trading range:
When you have this many shares outstanding, there is a lot of people to convince, one way or the other. I say a lot of people because we retail penny traders usually do not unwind or acquire a position all at once. It takes a lot of us trading 25% of our positions to make a difference.
When (if) new partners start buying you will still see slower movement than we think because we will all be COA's (i.e. free shares)
You already knew all this, but as you say not much to talk about at this time.
I think it was the late Johnny Cochran that said "IF SHARE PRICE DOES NOT SUIT, YOU MUST NOT DILUTE!!!"
O/S is 2,168,502,635 (just got off the phone with TA)
They have no info on preferred
BTW, ran across a company that uses the same TA, very nice, cocise, informative website.
http://www.ronlaura.com/stockinformation.htm
This Komex deal reminds me of a developer buying 2 side by side buildings. "A" building good shape, "B" building terrible shape. One for condos, the other to be torn down and used for parking.
"B" building owner would jack up the price if he knew the developer's plan.
Sometimes the whole is worth more than the pieces.
COO-AAL!!!
New to me!
Recieved an email back from Ron B. regarding Komex deal.
Will not post it here (because I do not have Ron's permission) but the jest of it was, I asked him when a Komax PR would be out, explaining details of contract.
To Paraphrase and sum up: In his reply he said there were other deals pending and until they were finalized, no details would be released.
I was hoping for a definitive answer, but at least he did respond and with a plausible explaination. Overall tone was positive with a hesitation to reveal exact timelines.
Makes sense, I guess, new partners needed to buy 666M shares, so Mgt. will dilute.
1.75M + 666m = 2.416B (close to 2.5B A/S)
Approx. 333M shares (for new partners) will likely come from commons turned in for preferred.
The only thing I am counting on now is the new partners are very business savy and this is all part of the master plan before announcing a buyback.
Pollyanna
Excellent Post!!
Very good margins now and things will only
get better as new equipment goes online.
BTW, wonder what percentage the new partners
will get out of 6.6B contract. Nobody has mentioned
this, that I have noticed, but it seems to me the word partners imply a split of profits.
comments?
I respectfully disagree, MM spent 1 1/2 hours with me one day explaining how NSS was keeping SP low. He represents PBLS and their own PR brought it up, so it is very relative.
Yes, your right, but not every stock can perform
as well as your NWWV.
Do you own any NWWV shares or are you
trying to save them too. You don't need to
answer, I will not respond.
Move along, this is getting old.
Jambam,
Thanks for the bond info.
What is your take on our new poster (justalittle), he seems to have an inside track much like yourself.
Do you know who he is?
Don't want to look an info gift-horse in the mouth, but have been led astray before by quasi insiders.
No offence intended justalittle
And paid down over 1.6M in liabilities.
Very happy with Q over Q numbers
I didn't know we had our own sanitarium, how do I get in?
Nothing is wrong with me, but I am interested in the meds.
Some drugs I take just for the side effects.
What is the password "AF's will be done soon"? or do I show certed PBLS stock?
Are these crushing plants also for
recycling old concrete?
Have you heard something you want to share with the class?