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You know you are correct. But.... it is time for all the old timers to let go of the past. They (mslp) have seemed to fix many of the issues that they have caused everyone in the past. Except for one. The one where many lost a lot of money. The only fix for that is to jump in before it is too late and we run to $20. Very fast. If you fail to get in and miss the run I fear that the same players will continue to bash in hopes of talking the stock down again. This is a new company, with new leaders , with old leaders learning, with new products, with science , etc. We do go to $50 at some point in time over the next 2 years.
Holy cow, he did learn something. Now if he could just stay positive along the way. Excellent.
This will get on the radar when the sec finishes its investigation and mslp uplifts. Anything that moves the stock forward like earnings, new product announcements, etc is great. We go to $20 really fast when we uplift and sec is over.
Doesn't Cory live in Ohio???
Now that I look at it , OPK has a pretty good cup and handle as well.
I'm not so sure that a meltdown would happen with mslp. We just are coming off the strongest qtr in history and now very profitable.
The indications from management is that we are talking about (if I remember correctly ) about $200K worth of illegal transactions that happened 2-4 years ago. Lets say worst case is they whack them for a few million dollars and the issue is solved.
I don't think the SEC wants to put them out of business and have the employees lose their jobs.
So we now look forward and we already have that guidance. This company gets sold for at least $600M in the next 2-3 years is my guess. That would be $50 per share.
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While mslp sleeps, I believe that TNXP and ADMP will be moving sharply between now and the end of Q3. I also told folks here about mnkd and I hope you got in. Screaming higher.
Well there goes 5K shares at 9.45. That is a good sign. The market makers are doing a great job of getting the price for the buyer. All but 500 shares today traded at 9.45 or higher. Someone wants in before the next run.
Well it looks like something must be happening. Great volume to start the day with 14,100 shares already traded and another 16K at the bid at 9.50.
9 products in the top 50 at BB.com. That should tell you why we are going to $13 in the short term. Next earning we get another increase and hopefully the sec thing going away. If we get both we are over $15.
Yeah I know. That's why I said wishful thinking.
Maybe we have some news coming out on Monday about.... Sec? Wishful thinking I guess.
Yes I forgot about her. I guess I forgot about it because it did not even go on my radar as an issue. Shit happens and companies react. Just move away from the refrigerator momma moose. That is the way to losing weight.
Yes but what if one of those crunch bars damages someones tooth. Then there will be a lawsuit. What if there is a stampede at Costco's to buy this crunch bar and I get run over and they crushed my legs. With the sec thing going on can we afford to hire more lawyers?? This is a serious situation that has about a 1% chance of happening but we should talk about it because it could happen.
Lions, Tigers and Bears. Oh my.
Amem. I believe that he has probably never worked for a large multinational corporation before thus his mind does not work in a business like manor. I suspect that you ( Rhenarium ) have big company experience thus you understand that much of this is just noise. This is why I choose to follow the likes of a Frost or a Soros or any other whale who will dictate how things will progress. And if they have to throw money at an issue to make it go away they will and it will not affect the long term pps at all. The mslp machine moves forward not back.
Deep, yes we should be focused on 2015. The market is really 6 months forward looking which takes us to the end of the year. So our price to day has baked in the numbers already that Brad has given us. Subtract the $4 for the SEC issue and $2 for the uplift and $2 for the next guidance uplift and you have an $18 stock for the end of the year. Give me the numbers for 2015 already. I think $300M is a great target.
Holy cow. Why is every piece of info whether it is released by MP or someone else scrutinized to the n'th degree on this board. Every company has lawsuits placed against them. Large and small. This will pass without incident. They have lawyers and science with them on the FitMiss. The announcement of the NetSuite software solution they implemented is another. Who care? I'm glad they are running their business with the latest technology. That is great. Not really press release worthy but who cares, they did it. These should not even be a topic for discussion and I am not sure why they are.
I like it better when we are talking about what will get us to the next level, like how do we get to $200M this year and $300M next.
So we have one director who bought today 1,000 shares at 10.14. Well I guess that is better than selling.
and now the 5K shares are gone with not one sale/buy. They want this as close to 10 because they have big boys buying in. That is the answer.
This is going to explode in the upcoming weeks.
I wonder where the new bar will be selling?
So we had a couple of trades at 10.25 just a few minutes ago at 11:53am. now someone puts 5K shares up at 10.05. Why? Who is holding this in line and scaring folks into not buying? Is it our MM's manipulating because they have many buyers at $10 or below and they need the shares so scare the weak hands and keep lowering the price.
Anyone care to share an opinion. I don't buy the "distribution" line. If someone wants out wouldn't they want out at 10.25 or 10.50 or something higher.
Off Topic.
I think Adamis Pharm (admp) is getting ready for a good move over the next 2 days to 3 months. Maybe a run to 10+ is in order. News coming.
No musical chairs, just getting the right folks on board for the Nasdaq uplift.
Let me ask a question, do we know for sure that MP does not have a presence at the World Cup. Maybe, just maybe this is a way of promising a lot and delivering even more. No formal announcement, just a few marketing events going on at the Cup on the heals of the Arnold event(s). Makes for a great Q2 if they do.
Was told roadshow this week New York and Boston
Why do you think they have been quiet about what they are doing. Certainly there are things that we do not know about but we do know a lot. Coconut Water with Costco, more products going into Costco, the new Dropz coming Q4 to compete with 5 hour energy, new products coming via the bzne deal, increase distribution not only with costco but other brick and mortar. I think we know a lot about what will drive us to $20. What will drive us to $40 with new products we will see. I personally think that the Dropz product will be huge if they can beat 5hr energy to market and grab a good 20% market share of the new "low caffeine" market for energy drinks. That would be huge. Not sure what 5 hour is doing on this front but I am sure that they are not sitting still. Unless Frost and his relationship/investment with Chromadex put the kibosh on selling the product to them. Leaving MSLP with an exclusive on this. Is there a competitor to the chromadex caffeine stuff? I don't think so.
JLTG, we haven't heard from you since the conf. call. Any thoughts on the development over the last few weeks. Still think we can hit $14-$18 pps?
Wrong just the opposite and now i am done with you.
I know perfectly well who he is. What does this have to do with frost or mslp or opko or anything else. He put all his money on one horse and that horse broke all his legs. Now I am starting to think like the others and you may have gone off the deep end.
Lc I have told you I am not a trader. I try and follow frost with his picks like cdxc, cocp , opko, rxii. I will take larger positions as I average down on these issues. I have not sold a single share of cocp after my first go round with bzne and made 15k. I have averaged down. Right now 100k shares at a higher price. I will hold this for at least a year to get the capital gains. I am thinking that sometime soon teva will be doing there next funding round with them. That could propell the stock. The legal stuff is just noise that I cannot predict. Over time every stock reaches the real price it should be at. I suspect that within a year this could be at least $1. In 3 years I am thinking $3 plus. I can take the ups and downs. I count on great management to provide superior results. That would be a 300k winfall for me in 3 yrs for a 50k investment. Look where opko was 3 years ago. Great managment first. Great target markets . Equals rising stock price over time. I may take 25k share off the table if it hit $1 to take a chunk of my investment off and let the rest ride but that depends on the story going forward.
I am shocked that you just started trading and mslp is your first trade. Tough one to get started on. But your knowledge of markets are ery good. I think that if you stop disecting each little gyration for these stocks you will do much better. Follow great leaders with great target markets and you will not be disappointed. Also the reason I do not trade, I tried it and failed. I think there is a stat out there that 98% of traders fail. Dont become that stat. Do your homework and buy. If you have faith by lower if it falls. I don't know your financial situation if you can buy and hold long term but to me that is the way to true success and financial independence.
No right now just under 22K. But will not hold all of that till the end.
so what makes you so sure that's going to happen if you were so wrong on the run from 6.50 up to 10.25. remember you just may be wrong on this prediction also. im certainly betting long.
LC, it still seems that you have an axe to grind with folks or you are just mad at yourself. Don't worry about the past mistakes anymore or guys like Buhler who are no longer engaged. They have to do things by the books for the most part to get up lifted. They want this more than we do. They see a $1B company and a $100 stock price. Brad will retire with $30M-$40M if they get these numbers up. I just hope for $1M for myself.
Ithink both Brad, Frost, Arnold and myself have a shot at hitting our targets. For Frost and Arnold it's about $70M each.
I know why they did not mention it. They don't want to have to explain it in the 10Q. They are doing it the right way. Give the GAAP number and let the folks figure it out themselves. One of the analysts on the call brought it up before. They will figure it out. So we get to 1.4esp by the end of the year. That is still a very low PE if the stock moves up to $30.
This is all good in my book.
May I please ask a question about the 1.7x sales that Seeking Alpha throws around. If this is accurate, which I think is low, what were these companies that got acquired trading at before the acquisition? 1x sales, 1.5x sales. Maybe we are a bit undervalued or maybe the 1.7 is bullshit.
Right now if the company pulled in $1 in eps by the end of the year at $20 they would have a PE of 20. Which is great but probably very low for a high growth company. Lets say they up the numbers again for the year and the come in closer to $190M as well to help get them the $1 eps. That would up a potential buyout to $323M ( 190x1.7). That would put the pps around $26 on a buyout at that time. But.....my question , where do these companies languish until the sale. At 1.2xrev, or 1.5x rev. 1.7xrev is not much of a premium.
My point is, there is something wrong or to symplistic about the possible outcome. I think the numbers have to be in the 3x -4x range. That makes more sense to me. What am I looking at that is wrong??
I'm not so sure that a trailing stop is the way to go on such an illiquid stock. They MM's will take you out in a heartbeat, steal your shares then run it back up and you will be scratching your head and wonder what happened.
My strategy is to take 25% of my shares off at around $13.5 and let the rest ride. If we get a pullback I buy back my shares that I sold, only after 30 days.
If you go back to my previous posts, although my timing may be just a bit off I would have to vote brichnyc .
In reality both of you ( LC and Avocet ) seem a bit wacky right now. LC, you missed the boat. Avocet, you bet the right way. Both should get off the soapbox. Just lots of wasted posts really saying nothing that will help any new or old investors.
Check out the post on twitter Colin k will be signing autograhps at Costco in a few days with mslp.
Has anyone checked out the MSLP home page. New Banner states "NOW SHIPPING TO CANADA" Good stuff.