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I don't see Frost, Arnold, Brad or Cory selling any shares. We go higher.
BTW, this is what is coming next for MSLP.
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Turk, whats your take on cocp. This is looking ugly every day. Either time to avg down big or ???
They , the execs will take a boat load of cash off the table and they will then be filled with a ton of roche stock. The shareholders will get screwed but 12 is not bad for right now. Risk in the prostate side of things , so a bird in the hand...
I doubt it. I am more on the side of buyout in the 10-12 range.
32M shares traded is a lot of attention.
We will head higher into earnings and expct to see 20 by end of year. Speak with you soon.
Our votes Mean nothing. It's about Brad Corey Arnold Winfield capital they own the company along with thebmajority of the shares. I will probably vote yes.
BTW, form 14 is out announcing the shareholders meeting set for August 25th.
This entire afternoon all of you have been quite boring. No real info, just a bunch of back stabbing. ZZZZZZ.
I see why Deep Space has gone into hiding. He is sick of the board. But, in the long run it means zero. This board controls nothing, nada. The company will do its thing and the stock will move based on the company doing its thing.
Good day from nyc.
A couple of points guys. As it relates to this article that came out about Tiger. Maybe, just maybe with Dr. Frost's influence, MSLP are doing things right from a science perspective. They are getting their products tested, they will be controlling the supply chain and manufacturing, they are on the offensive regarding healthy choices and they are signing the right people to bring this "science" message to the markets. Whole Foods, GNC, Tiger Woods, Costco, etc. Their brand screams we are safe, tested, natural, etc...
A brand is only good as the trust people put into it. Look at 5 hour energy. MP comes out with their version of it before the end of the year with half the caffeine, that is better for you. It's about the science and trust. All the bullshit that is with the management that has gone on in the past is the past. They have better advisers now. The brand is the key and they are executing on every front.
very nice commercial. I wonder where besides social media will it play?
Here is the language from the last 10Q on the SEC investigation along with Bellator's statement regarding this issue.
Bellator Statement
"failed to declare several million dollars worth of share grants to executives and the execs not only forgot to claim the awards on the corporate financials but also on their personal taxes like Brad and cronies did in 2013 after the SEC investigation was already announced."
(F) SEC Investigation
In July 2013, the Company received a formal order of investigation of the Company from the Denver Regional Office of the Securities and Exchange Commission. As a result of that formal order, the Company is conducting a review of its internal controls, disclosures of related party transactions, settlements of claims including share issuance, executive compensation, and disclosure of perquisites for the periods of 2010, 2011, and 2012. There can be no assurance that these are the only subject matters of concern, what the nature or amounts in question will be, or that these are the only periods under review.
Here is the revenue recognition statement from the last quarters 10Q. Looks like it is on shipping.
Revenue Recognition
The Company records revenue when all of the following have occurred: (1) persuasive evidence of an arrangement exists, (2) product has been shipped or delivered, (3) the sales price to the customer is fixed or determinable, and (4) collectability is reasonably assured.
Depending on individual customer agreements, sales are recognized either upon shipment of products to customers or upon delivery. For all of our Canadian sales, which represent 2% of total sales, recognition occurs upon shipment.
The Company has determined that advertising related credits that were granted to customers fell within the guidance of ASC No. 605-50-55 (“Revenue Recognition” – Customer Payments and Incentives). The guidance indicates that, absent evidence of benefit to the vendor, appropriate treatment requires netting these types of payments against revenues and not expensing as advertising expense.
The Company records sales allowances and discounts as a direct reduction of sales. The Company grants volume incentive rebates to certain customers based on contractually agreed upon percentages once certain thresholds have been met. These volume incentive rebates are recorded as a direct reduction to sales.
Not sure what to expect with the Whole Foods deal. Only 350 stores now. How much can they do in a store per month?? I think that there supp section is very small.
Just remember that the pps has risen from 6.16 to 12.10 wihtout the sec issue being cleared up. If they continue to grow the company like they are stating the pps will go up and folks will think the sec thing will not be that bad. Maybe a buck or two to the downside but the growth projections will far outweigh the negatives.
I like the fact that Brad will try and get the uplift completed without the sec issue satisfied. You cannot wait around forever to keep the company moving forward.
I spoke with the IR guys working mslp and they said that the sec sometimes never makes a "final" decision and these things sometimes just fade away instead of a big dramatic closure. Not sure if that is a fact but the company must be allowed to move ahead. It cannot go on forever. Once uplifted and they are playing by the rules of Nasdaq, it will continue to go up. This conversation took place about 2 months ago.
Yes I heard that forward PE on cnbc yesterday as well. Things can stay irrational for a long period of time as we have seen for the last 3+ years. mslp looks great, with some great news today.
Hey deep. You getting tired of the mslp board?? Where do you think the tza is heading. With everyone calling for a big pull back in the markets, especially the small caps, I fear for a good earnings season coming, making the bull market continue its upward trend.
I'm not so sure that this will have no effect. We can continue to melt up to the 14 area with a run up into earnings. This new product can be huge. The problem is no real shares for sale and the lack of new buyers. Every week we seem to be getting not good news but great news. Today 3 bits of great news.
1. The Amino 1 test vs. gatorade.
2. The announcement of a new drink coming in Jan
3. On twitter , new bottle design coming. That to me is Tiger.
This will catch on very soon.
How about this, 5 years after Gatorade drops Tiger, he is now endorsing Tiger Woods Amnio , The Athletes Cocktail. A little revenge for Tiger and huge sales for MP.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/golf/pga/2010-02-26-tiger-woods-gatorade_N.htm
Does MSLP book revenue based on shipping of the product or when the product sells off the shelf? I would assume when it ships and if they have any returns they take the debook then. The new GNC expanded relationship was announced mid Q2 so if they are shipping to every store (4K) this could be another blow out qtr with the same language as before. "we cannot keep this up like we did in Q1... blah, blah,blah...." That is called promise a lot and deliver even more.
JJ, having your earnings a bit curtailed from Q1 is fine due to hiring and build out to support the business is great. As long as the rev growth continues they just need to up guidance a little to get a big pop. Growth is key and they are executing perfectly. Until they stop hitting the numbers, hold on for the ride.
Yes great looking chart and consolidation is perfect with slight downtrend. We are going to 15 short term with the potential of 20 with resolution of SEC and uplift. No brainer for this stock.
A Flag (Bullish) follows a steep, or nearly vertical rise in price, and consists of two parallel trendlines that form a rectangular flag shape. The Flag can be horizontal (as though the wind is blowing it), however it often has a slight downtrend.
The vertical uptrend, that precedes a Flag, may occur because of buyers' reactions to a favorable company earnings announcement, or a new product launch. The sharp price increase is sometimes referred to as the "flagpole" or "mast".
Target Price
It is commonly held that the length of the flagpole indicates the potential price increase. When the Flag completes, the price typically jumps to replicate the height of the original flagpole, while continuing in the direction of the inbound trend.
I'm with you. I cannot imagine that they did not save a couple of million in revenues from last quarter to throw into this quarter to get a great start. In the high tech world that was common place. They used to call it inside the company that they put the goalie in the net. That was the signal for the insiders that the quarter was easily made and that you could feel comfortable buying on the open market. I see the same thing with mslp for quarters, months and years to come. Early stages to a $1B market cap.
Your posts confuse me but maybe that is the goal. I get that feeling by many of the posters here. People talk in circles.
Me, I am long and strong with most of my shares. First sell will be in the $20's. Then will be trading a chunk , keeping a large position for the buyout. Very simple strategy.
ok thanks. does your gym sell mslp products.
Turk, what part of the country do you live in. I'm part time nyc and fl and do not see much mslp in the gyms at all. Just wondering if their real presence is still west coast based and they have a lot of ground to cover in the east.
Thx.
Very funny.
On May 22 you wrote
"Forget going above 10 this thing can't even hold 9.
When the optimism and pumping on here gets extreme MSLP drops. You can set your clock by it or better yet place your short positions on it."
That was $3 ago, we are now at 12.
On July 4th you wrote
"LOL - Let's see I'm long here at 6.61. Do that math on that one cupcake. Pay attention and you'll learn how to make money on both sides of the market.
Was hoping for a lot more out of that Tiger Woods announcement.
Maybe you should get back to pumping like you were doing."
So I guess you are short since $9 now and getting hurt, is that correct? I feel your pain but long is the way to be. Nice rebound back to end the day down .08c.
See you at $20 or will you teach us how to make money shorting in a strong uptrend??
Wouldn't it be nice if they pre announce earnings with another blowout quarter, then on the actual earnings date they give their upgraded guidance and nasdaq uplift. Of course the uplift comes with the closure of the SEC issue. Pre announce gives us a $3 day then the up guidance gives us another $2 and Nasdaq another $3.
Hello $20. All very possible.
I don't believe that they sold the rights but they outsourced the operations of it and will be receiving royalties on the net rev. I think??
Now up to just over 22k
A buyout of this size by any large company is not waiting for the sec thing to clear up. they would take them out in a heart beat if they could and never worry once about the sec. the problem is they cannot be bought out as the insiders are not willing to sell and neither am i.
OK, here are my thoughts on when to sell. I will couch this with you probably should always keep a large chunk for the long term / buyout but obviously you can trade this stock.
My experience and game plan is to hold on until something material changes my mind. I grew up in the technology sector and have worked for some of the top companies in the world. One book I read around 1999 is the Gorilla Game by Geoffrey Moore. The gist of the book is to stick with the Gorilla (MSLP) until something really material changes. If the company has the great management and is making the correct moves, has a large moat built around it to keep competitors away ( in progress for mslp ) and continues to grow both top and bottom line , you hold. When growth decelerates, sell.
I will try and trade around 25% of my shares but I don't do that very well. I use TOS platform for charting info looking for directional moves. with MSLP not sure if it is applicable. I will hold the 75% waiting for the deceleration of growth or a buyout. I think buyout within 3 years. That is if Brad truly can get this to a $1B revenue company. $1B = $100 share price. Then it will not matter if I have 22K shares or 17K. Still a ton of $$$$$.
I hope this helps and I would love to know what everyone else will be doing.
Thanks in advance.
It would certainly happen after the SEC resolution and uplift. That give mslp much more leverage. Why would you think otherwise?? Not sure I understand the thought process to doing it before. The larger they can grow the company the larger the buyout. That is very plain and simple in this environment and marketplace.
That $24 pps could very well be before the end of year. $5 points on SEC / Uplift. $3 for Q3/Q4 guidance raise and $4 for misc product announcements, ie. Tiger Dropz, Costco CoCo Water.
Couple this with the costco current relationship and the fact that they are developing product jointly (coco water ) and the fact that they will be delivering the energy dropz to the market in late Q3/Q4 with tiger, we could explode to $300M for FY15 and maybe $2 eps to the bottom line. This alone could take us to $50 per share over the next 12-18 months. Lets just get the sec thing concluded and uplift.
Vincem, I don't think so. The fuse products that you have mentioned were not the products that they really cared about. They were trying to sell these products to get enough $$ to fund the so called transdermal products in the pipeline. That did not work.
I think MSLP takes over anything that is left for free.
Not sure what that means who is Little League
Not sure what to figure out . I guess you have it all figured out since you purchased a couple of days ago. I really don't mean for you to lose any money or any harm I really hope that everybody makes money with drop and muscle Pharm
Still getting yourself educated LC??? This becomes property of MSLP very soon.