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Well I see that Matt is determined to try and make "iHub" a discussion board (as in allowing both sides of the argument) instead of just letting "ra-ra" posts be allowed.
Thank you Matt!
Charlie T
jarvis c
Below is a couple of past posts of mine from a while back. The answer to your question is YES, there is a REAL station but the problem is Fat Frankie is in charge....
AND unlike certain people...my idea of DD is not calling some PR person to be promised that something MIGHT happen.
Since the SEC will only take written proof, I cannot see why I should take anything else!
Charlie T
(past posts on RB)
I will admit, I have poked fun at Fat Frankie, and Triangle in the past but the following is the truth.
I was a little bored today, and I'm still in a good mood from Monday's Devil's Staley Cup win, so I decided that even though Triangle, its attorney and anyone else involved have refused to answer any e-mail, snail mail, and certified mail, and that even when they take a call, they have all lied in the past, I would try and give them a call today.
After being bounced around the phone system, I finally got to speak with a person (I promised not to reveal the person's name) who was willing to speak.
#1. They are still working for a launch
#2. Triangle has money to pay its employees and rent/etc
#3. The new equipment is working
BUT NOW THE KICKER
#4 There is NO date scheduled for a launch!
I said we may be looking at September 5, 2004...that is 2000 and 4 as in over a year from now.
Charlie T
Skunk
You can call me anything you want....for over three YEARS Frankie has been telling us stories....
I don't want to hear anymore LIES from ANYONE ELSE...if something is going to happen, where is it in writing!!!!
Until I see it in WRITING...from TW, all this BS we have been hearing for this last month is just that...BS!!!!
For those who don't read the RB board....
Many of us are getting VERY impatience with Frankie, and to his defense Skunk says....patience, patience
Well, I for one would like to know the definition of patience because all I am reading here and on RB is a lot of a Frankie told me stories.
These stories go back to January 6, 2001 (actually they were around while GAAY's was the symbol), right after the change over from GAAY to QBID...that was a published PRESS RELEASE and NOTHING came from that.
take a read of this one.....
January 6, 2001
Dear Shareholders,
We are pleased to announce that we are facilitating the Business Combination between Triangle Broadcasting Company, Inc. (GAAY), a publicly traded non-reporting company, with Triangle Multi-Media Ltd. Inc. (QBID), which was voted upon by shareholders of both companies. This combination was approved by Triangle Broadcasting shareholders on December 28, 1999 and by Triangle Multi-Media shareholders on March 14, 2000. At that time it was agreed to exchange at a rate of 2.375 shares of the common stock of Triangle Broadcasting Company for each share of Triangle Multi-Media Limited.
The companies have waited one year to complete this Business Combination in order to issue free trading stock. This stock was allocated on December 28, 1999 and is now ready to be issued as Free Trading Common Stock.
The Triangle Broadcasting shareholders who wish to exchange – AND REMEMBER THIS IS NOT MANDATORY – need to do the following.
A. Send a letter to the brokerage house where your shares are being held and request an Irrevocable Stock or Bond Power form, or you can download the Irrevocable Stock or Bond Power form from here. GET FORM. This must be filled out in detail, signed by the shareholder and then notarized or signature guaranteed. It should be sent BY CERTIFIED MAIL, return receipt requested, to:
Max Craig Cassing
Triangle Multi-Media Ltd., Inc.
1000 East Tahquitz Canyon Way
Palm Springs, CA 92262
When I bring these PR's up, all I get is call so-and-so
My question is now......Why should I call anyone? If I do, what does it mean, NOTHING!
I am involved with a SEC investigation of another stock. I talked with many people there about what I was told and they are all very sympathetic but I got NO WHERE!
As soon as I gathered up old PRESS RELEASES and e-mails and mailed them off, I get a case number and the wheels of justice starts to turn!
So, what am I saying.....I don't care WHO says WHAT...I want it in writing!
So, can anyone tell me WHEN we will see a PR from TW....I didn't think so!
Charlie T
Sent to Frank@triangletelevisionnetwork.com
Frank
With all the news about the "Gay Lifestyle" in the NEWS these last couple of weeks, maybe....just maybe could you have had pushed yourself away from the food cart long enough to do just a little work?
H e l l, there are at least 20 others shareholders (beside myself) who would have written your PR for FREE, if you would have asked.
So tell me Frank, what will your excuse be now that the train is leaving the station and YOU aren't on it?
Let me give you a hint...it isn't the disloyalty of your shareholders, or the anti-gay community, BUT it is the person in the mirror when you look into one.
Charlie T
What about this Ron...
All-Reality TV Channel Planned for 2004
By LYNN ELBER (.c The Associated Press)
LOS ANGELES (AP) - The audience appetite for reality television could be tested by a planned cable channel that will offer a diet of all reality, all the time.
Reality Central, scheduled to debut in early 2004, is being developed by Larry Namer, co-founder of E! Entertainment Television, and Blake Mycoskie, a businessman who was a reality show contestant.
Namer and Mycoskie contend that reality TV has proved its staying power and can attract and hold enough viewers for a niche channel.
``Reality is now a genre, just like any other genre,'' Namer said in an interview last week. The venture was to be announced Monday.
``Right now it has a cultlike following, and we're not saying that's going to exist forever,'' he said. ``But I think this type of programming will remain a genre just by the basic economics of it and what it does for a network.''
Networks have found success with such hit series as Fox's ``American Idol'' and CBS' ``Survivor.'' The shows are especially popular among the young adult viewers favored by advertisers.
But the rush to capitalize on the trend, sometimes unsuccessfully (ABC's ``Are You Hot?''), has raised questions about the genre's future.
Reality pioneer Bruce Nash, whose projects include Fox's current ``Mr. Personality'' with Monica Lewinsky, believes the genre is durable and will survive the current glut and bad shows. He's less certain about how an all-reality channel will fare.
``It's an interesting idea. Whether it will work remains to be seen,'' Nash said. ``I produce 120 hours of reality TV, but if I had to watch it all day I'd go nuts.''
However, he added: ``Everyone is so niche, why not? Why not an all-reality cable channel?''
Reruns of domestic and imported series will represent half of Reality Central's programming. The rest will be behind-the-scenes looks at the shows and contestants, ``all those things that feed the fan appetite,'' Namer said.
The channel plans to enhance the series repeats with commentary from contestants, such as Richard Hatch offering details on his winning ``Survivor'' strategy.
Reality ``stars'' including Hatch, fellow ``Survivor'' contestant Colby Donaldson and Trista Rehn and Ryan Sutter of ``The Bachelorette'' have signed on with the channel to promote it.
Prize winners from various shows were the first investors in the channel that has incurred about $1 million in startup costs so far, said Namer and Mycoskie, who was a runner-up on CBS' ``The Amazing Race.'' The investors were not identified.
About $25 million will be required to get the channel up and running through its first year, the partners said.
Reality Central would join the ranks of other cable networks that target very specific audiences with mostly reruns, such as ESPN Classic and SoapNet.
It doesn't take many viewers for such channels to work. The business model for Reality Central is based on a 0.2 rating, or roughly 200,000 homes. Shows that score a 0.5 rating, about a half-million homes, ``are big hits for cable,'' Namer said.
The channel will produce only one reality show: It will detail the development and launch of Reality Central, which is being documented on digital video.
``So the network itself is a reality show,'' Namer said.
Although there will be original programming about reality TV, the lack of fresh series was met with some skepticism.
Reality is the ``kind of genre that has a way of burning itself out,'' said industry analyst Larry Gerbrandt of Kagan World Media. When reality falls out of favor with networks, he said, Reality Central will have to start creating its own series.
Reality Central expects it will reach a minimum of 3 million homes when it starts and could reach 30 million homes within two years, Namer said. By comparison, Comedy Central (no relation) reaches more than 80 million homes.
Discussions are under way with networks but no deals for specific shows have been made, said Namer, Reality Central's president and chief executive officer, and Mycoskie, its chairman.
CBS has received information on the venture but hadn't seen a formal presentation, spokesman Chris Ender said. Networks are open to finding new revenue streams for existing programs, he added.
John
Even "Dusty" has lost her faith....it is a sad day in LARGOLand!
Charlie T
Just for Skunksyard, I put this here too.
To all investors of QBID, no matter is you are happy or not with your investment.
Last weekend I decided to take some action on what is happening with my QBID investment. Since the entire Stock Market is in a free fall, and all these supposedly "Blue Chip" companies all admitting to some kind of accounting fraud, how could we expect a "Pink Sheet" company of doing anything right.
What I did was compile all PRESS RELEASES, NEWS, TTN e-mails, etc. I could gather. And there are no PUMPERS/BASHERS post included. Many of us have been here too long, others have been here even longer. I did not want to go WAY back in history so I started at January, 2001 and brought it up to now. (Since the flop of the May launch, the only news to be reported is the new address.)
So if you would like to see what the last year and half has brought us, like a share price from July 26, 2001 @ .025 to the low of .0001 from April 30, 2002 (thru now), the promises, etc...well e-mail me and I will send it to you.
I will warn you, it is 55 pages long. It is in WordPerfect format, but if you really want it, and you cannot read it, I may be able to send it you in Word.
Charltuna@AOL.com
Here is something just for skunkyard....
Since she wants to be the patron saint of QBID, maybe she will be able to get some answers...
Frequently Asked Questions concerning the Triangle Television Network
#1. When will TTN finally launch to the real world
#2. What is the A/S
#3. What is the O/S
#4. When will Frank's promises, to shareholders concerning their investment, be realized? (What about when will 1 be realized?)
#5. Will investors ever recoup their losses?
Now if you are looking for the answers to these question, join the club because if we ever get the answers to these questions, we (investors) all should get together for a drink.
Charlie T
Joe
I do believe you are mistaken. When QBID does its R/S we will get to a whole new level of nothingness!!!
Charlie T
Well people...do you know what time it is?
It is time to Bend over, and give yourself a great big kiss
and do you know why?
Because Fat Frankie just stuck it to us!!
Charlie T
Well, we finally hit it...mark your calendars...today, April 30th we hit $0.0001
As the line in the song says...how low will you go!/!
Charlie T
It is Tuesday, which means Elaine should be at work today, has anyone called and asked her what happened....
Charlie T
Hey John
here is a crude thought...what does he do if he gets eclairs...
CT
Hey, it is Monday April 22nd, I know that something special was suppose to happen today, but I can't remember what...was I suppose to clean the dryer filter?
Maybe I'll remember if I have a donut!
Charlie T
Remember this post
Posted by: charltuna
In reply to: None Date: 4/15/2002 7:10:16 PM
Post # 1080 of 1096
Hey Gang...well today is Tax Day for some of us, I am one of the people who is waiting for the IRS to send me a check so while we all wait here is my question...since I filed my returned in the middle of March, will I
#1...see my refund check
or
#2...see TTN finally launched!!!
Charlie T
Well, today I got my refund check and Fat Frankie once again put it to us...
Charlie T
It is the Friday before the Big Launch...where is the NEWS?
CT
John
I think I will buy a million shares of QBID...it will only cost $300 and if Monday, the launch fails again, well I can use the cert to wall paper my office as a reminder what NOT to do in the future.
If on the other hand, Fat Frankie puts down the donuts long enough to sign the contracts...who knows....
Charlie T
Wolfbane
Here is a better one
Wolfbane = A$$hole
Now go post that on Raging Bull
Charlie T
Well now, I will not argue with you about QBID and flying pigs...but my mailbox is looked after by Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson
Charlie T
Hey Gang...well today is Tax Day for some of us, I am one of the people who is waiting for the IRS to send me a check so while we all wait here is my question...since I filed my returned in the middle of March, will I
#1...see my refund check
or
#2...see TTN finally launched!!!
Charlie T
John
If I am going to waste my time with watching people play with each other...I'll check out the Pam and Tommy film clips....
What a pile of BS....
Charlie T
PS...The above comment was MEANT to show the worthlessness of the film clip...it was NOT to say that those two A_____es has anything to offer to society.
CT
Grassy
All three have the same dislike for you...what else do you need...a smoking gun...couldn't resist.
CT
Grassy
In case you have been busy doing something which makes sense and not wasting your time with who = who games on Raging Bull...
Gumbelina = Waittanextyear = Ellenbach
Grassy...I would hate to be called a plagiarist, but this post is too good to be not seen...so all I can say is that you should have posted it yourself!
Charlie T
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB00207&read=199
By: TheGrassyKnoll $$$$$
06 Apr 2002, 12:49 PM EST Msg. 199 of 201
(This msg. is a reply to 196 by 8sixes.)
Largo Vista: Past, Present, and Future
Many factors are playing into our current trading pattern. You will find bashers and pumpers alike admitting that Largo now has something going for it. That being said why are we trading below .20? (All the following is IMO ONLY!)
The bashers/skeptics see what we see. They feel they know that this stock will not move and sustain higher prices beyond a factor of x2 or x3. Why you might ask, because the market is different now regardless of whether or not Largo appears to be retracing the footsteps of 1999. I believe stocks like Harcourt and Tirex can be considered an indicator of the times. Largo is still here and recently showing signs of life. This is very attractive to active trader that is left to pick at the bones of the OTCBB. Also keep in mind that I believe the active float is double+ what is was in 1999. With all that stock out there, too many people hold shares that need to be sold. I would guess that 80% of our 5,000+ shareholder based would view themselves as "involuntary shareholders". Many have wisely averaged down so that they can recoup their initial investment sooner. This means costs basis' ranging from .15 to .50, which will trigger selling as certain levels are penetrated. Then add in the insiders "free trading & 144" sales and you have a plethora of stock for the market. The MM's are no dummies, they know this too. Why would they go out and buy any stock as news comes out to sell at higher prices when they know all the above? Let face it they won't, the selling comes to quickly so they hold back to minimize the selling to match the limited buying they have. They also get to talk to Dan and that adds plenty to their decision-making. Also don't forget that even at .14 we are double to triple our value from just 6 weeks back with no additional reason beyond the PR's we have seen to date. No sales, no revenues, no contracts, and no deals! All we have is a "written agreement" with an oil company and an LPG pipeline to a 1000 unit Chinese condo complex, THATS IT! Are we worth .20 or .30 cents? You make the call.
Now on the other hand, what do us longs have going for us? Its spelled H-O-P-E! We have lived on this for two plus years. Every last one of us with more than $10,000 at stake has contacted the company at one time or another. We all know that what we have heard does not match what we have seen, that is until now. The one and only problem we encountered in early 2000 was supply. From one faceless Arab to another the management of Largo went. Our JV with Silver Falcon, UAPC, Hadher Group was all dead-end streets. The only real thing we had was Danny Nyugen and our Vietnamese customer. Along came the May 2000 shipment (our one and only) to Vinapco at a loss and UAPC filed suit against us. All the while the pink debacle was taking its toll. Then recently, to the surprise of us all, Largo releases a PR stating that they won the lawsuit and can now get back to the business of shipping oil. I'll bet there is not one investor out there that knew Largo was sitting on their rear end waiting for the suit to settle, right? So, step #1 is complete. We are free to pursue oil trading in Asia and in the words of Dan Mendez; "We have successfully kept our Vietnamese customers secure and we are now moving aggressively and presently making arrangements to meet with ALL top key management in Vietnam".
Next we were told of the construction project for 1000 residential units as it is phase one of a possible eight. It also stated that we have "exclusive rights" with the Guizhou provincial government for construction of LPG pipelines. Construction of the first phase is underway and the government will be collecting all payables ensuring a profit for Largo Vista. This is something we sorely lacked at Xinmao as the government and the black market took its toll. A 21st century and WTO offers additional opportunity for Largo in the LPG arena but for now this is a first step in a new direction. Logic would dictate the question “ why would the Chinese government enter into a long-term contract with Largo on a pipeline without a source of competitive costing for LPG? This was answered in our next PR regarding Petral as more of the LPG picture came into focus for the investor.
Pertamina signs an agreement with Largo committing them to ensuring supply of oil products to Vietnam. We have all done our homework on Pertamina by now and can easily see the immediate benefit. We have always had the customers but never the product to sell. This is where hope is replaced by conviction. For the first time the PR quoted Deng Shan who has remained an enigma to us all. We also received a video clip on the website truly documenting the signing with comments of “belief and trust” between both parties. Soekono Wahjoe also stated that he would accompany Deng Shan to Los Angeles to what end remains unknown. The PR stated, “It is a win-win situation for Largo as our company ALREADY has a client base of oil product purchasers in Vietnam.” This clearly defines the immediate future of Largo and what we can expect as we move into the months ahead.
It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure out that shipments of oil products are on two-bit transactions. We are talking about millions of dollars in revenue here folks. This is where we are, lost between the countless false starts of the last two years and the threshold of greatness. What changes need to be made in order for Largo to grow into this bigger, better, and REAL company? The 10K tell us that Largo will be increasing the employee head count in the near future. What reasons we need additional staffing and who might they be is unknown. I have my ideas but it is not my style to prognosticate on such issues. Everyone now knows what the next local step is for Largo, ship oil products to Vietnam. When will the first shipment take place? Do we have contracts as we speak? Are we negotiating our first contract currently? How big will the shipment be? What revenue will be generated from the first shipment? Will there be a second shipment or a third? Is it a long term 12 or 16-month contract? Will we have more than one customer in Vietnam? Will we have other customers in other countries? The questions go on and on.
Lastly, can we get back to the one-dollar level and beyond? This is the most intriguing question of them all. With all we have going for us right now it certainly would appear that it is very doable. Any news of oil contract and oil delivery will push us forward. Combine that with a second and a third and we are well on our way if not over the top. Then wait until the 10Q2 that should be filed on August 15th and revenues and profits will be known. If, and I do mean IF, the revenues are 6 to 10 million per shipment and profit is reasonable, we will have proven ourselves to the investment community and will be rewarded with a share value of a dollar or more. What will take place between now and then is anyone’s guess. Greed will always play a roll in your investment decisions. At .50 or .75 cents do you feel it would be a good time to take some off the table? If so, how much? Heck, its been a long time right? You finally have the chance to take your original invest off the table with profit right? Why shouldn’t you do that? Should you hold out for a dollar or two? This is where we all part ways based on our own review of the trading and whatever DD one can scrounge.
It is the future that is bright once again. We no longer have to wait, wonder, and hope that Largo will get something going. This in itself allows me the comfort of knowing my investment is safe and in the hands of SOME very capable people. If I have written once, I have written it a thousand times: “With time and patience, the mulberry leaf becomes a silk gown.” I have touted this proverb and hold it in the highest esteem. It is my belief, as a Largo Long that I will find financial independence within the confines of this investment and all that join me shall reap the same rewards.
Dolce Vita,
TGK
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long)
Broke2
I have said it in the past and I will repeat it now...I feel that LGOV may someday be something BIG but with how Danny Boy runs the company here in the US...well when we hit .50, I will start looking for an exit point. Hopefully it will rise steadily up so I will get the maximum return but when I sell...I will not look back.
Charlie T
But John...will this actually get us over .50?
CT
And the answer to my question is...
# 2...It was an April Fools" Gag!
We can't even hold .20...Thank you Danny Boy, you are truly one of the Giants of the Energy Field!!!
So, will anyone give me an answer...today was
#1....the start of our way back to a buck
or
#2....an April Fools' joke by ythe MM's...taking us up to .27 and then dropping us.
Charlie T
Well, before the end of lunch and we are over 1 million shares with a price of .235+...and on no new NEWS.
Will this be our week or is this an April Fools' gag?
Time will tell.
Charlie T
Grassy
Is there any old sayings about an insane ward? If you look at our little group of LGOV investors, we are a strange bunch.
We have Monkeys, Birds, Camels, a Tuna, Crazys, (This space is reserve for you), a warden, doctors, a oriental femme fatale, a whole group of golfers (that alone shots our rating to hell), etc, etc....
As for my placing a time limit...I said I feel that this week may be good...I didn't say we will go over a dollar or anything. It is just that even with a short week and no new news, our volume seemed to stay high...in LGOV terms.
Anyway, to all LGOV's
the best to you and yours over this holiday weekend
Charlie T
Ok, we have all heard this before...MANY TIMES BEFORE...but from some of things I am hearing...next week just may be the week!!!
Charlie T
Hey guys...I told you ALL...I didn't want this job but I told Matt I wouldn't let it get out of hand, so...play nice!!!!
Charlie T
Grassy
Almost 300,000 in the 1st hour....there {b]just may be so magic left!
Charlie T
Well as of 1:30PM we had almost 350,000 shares traded...with a price of .13 while the rest of the market is down...maybe something is coming!
Charlie T
OT: Sorry QBID's
John, my BMII is up over 100% I think this has a lot to offer. You looked at it at the wrong time...
Charlie T
John...have you been following LGOV...I have a real bad feeling....
CT
ferrgus
Thanks for the report! I know I sound like I'm going over to the darkside (Bashing) but I really have lost my faith in Frank...maybe this is the time he proves me wrong...for all us investors, I hope that is true.
Charlie T
ferrgus
So now that Frank has had his chat...what do you think? I may have missed it, but I didn't think he answered the following question....
Will there a reverse split or another change of stock (as in GAAY to QBID)?
Charlie T
Broke2...I will be very satisfied when LGOV share price goes over .50...I have stated that many times over the last six months. Here is my post from Raging Bull.
Just one persons opinion...
The old LGOV shareholders are in trouble while the few new investors are ok.
We are seeing the beginning of a new opportunity for LGOV. The company seems to be ready to start realizing many of the dreams they have sold us 3 - 4 or more years ago. The big question is now Who will get the rewards?
Right now I feel like a professional football player who has stuck by his team during the re-building years, only to told that I now do not fit the profile of the team!
Please don't think I am putting down the company, I am placing all the blame at the feet of only two people (in my case) and that is Danny Boy and Myself! I don't know if Danny Boy has done it on purpose or he did it by plain stupidity, or he caused it by allowing his ego to run wild (this gets my vote) BUT there are hardly any new investors who cares about what is going on.
The company is realizing its goal...so the company will do good, but for shareholders to realize their dream, our price of the stock of the company must go up and the only way for our price to go up is for people to want to buy it...how many of you want to buy more and hold it so the price moves up (no day traders need answer...you guys are the ones who will make a profit now)...let us say over .50 so I can get out with a profit? And how long will others have to hold for the next guy?
Again, just my opinion.
Charlie T